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You ever see a take so bad you have to force yourself to close the app, take a deep breath and remind yourself it really isn't that deep

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this is a jorah hate acc BOOO 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

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"The white who has no voice."

- ASoS, Bran I

Arctic wolf (Canis lupus arctos) by Jim Brandenburg

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Something about the fandom being so obsessed with hating on a 15/16 year old girl, who has known hardships, abuse and slavery, trying to abolish slavery always confuses me. So many people to hate, and you pick the person trying to be good so desperately?

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Jon and Dany are 15, bisexual, with revolutionary ideals. They would be on tumblr. They would be mutuals

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so how do you guys think catelyn knows that ned loves her hair? do you think ned told her outright, or catelyn knew from him touching her hair, looking at it when they stroll through winterfell, gifting her northern style hair accessories? just cat and her silent wolf who loves her hair, who loves her.

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"im anti got / anti hotd" I'm reading as their pinned post. Above, in the fashion of an angel, hovers a pfp of an actor from said show, under it I find reposted show scene art work. My curiosity is my downfall, as I make the mistake the scroll and find a show argument being brought that holds no value for the books or actual lore. My eye twitches.

OK jk, srsly tho, please don't interact with me. I do not care that you are "apparently anti show", you are still INTERACTING with it like a fan, given them a platform without critique, you are using the show for your arguments etc. If you wanna enjoy the show? Fine, but god stop pretending?

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Genuinely so tired of people complaining about George not finishing the books, when WE KNOW that multiple of his friends died within the last few years. I genuinely need yall to understand that yall are not owned anything, He ain't Patrick Rothfuss, He is doing stuff- a Lot of Stuff actually- he isnt bound to sit down and write in one single thing for years and not allow himself to continue his other book series or novels. Because that behavior is what kills the love for Asoiaf. Jfc half the comments under his tweets are talking like he will die within the next 24 hours. Give that man a Break, He is writing, He is also mourning, visiting Events, interacting with communities, supporting other authors etc. If I would have to read everyday about how I'm gonna die, I wouldn't give a fuck anymore. 😮‍💨

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I really wish the fandom would start to have more specific terms for certain theories because of how weird complicated the broad Interpretations can get. Maester conspiracy? In the Nature of that they hold significant Power, are usually present in every court, control the message system, influence politics directly and indirectly and in general are very secretive/secluded, maybe accumulating in different conspiracies over the years with similar goals (bringing the dragons down/the targaryens/to bring the dragons down you need to bring down the targs/to bring the targs down you need to bring down the dragons)? Yes, understandable, makes sense. The General dismissal of the maesters as a "bunch of nerds who do nothing" when they are very similar to Catholicism in medieval europe is crazy to me- they hold Power. They hold a lot power.

To deny that an organized faith, that is ancient, with a certified head similar in nature to the pope, yk the Guys that have been meddling in Politics for centuries even going so far to place their own relatives into royal marriages/very good political positions, is completely clean and doesnt care for politics (despite meddling in them OFTEN), and has no interest in maybe getting the powerful magical gifted/bonded family with dragons dethroned or at least weakened to a state of their 'magic connection' being useless (without dragons)- is just weird for me.

HOWEVER do I think they are sitting there in Grey cloaks, under candlelight chanting "KILL ALL TARGARYENS!!" and dancing naked under the nightsky while murdering them left and right and EVERY maester being involved?

No. And i think to assume so is even more weird.

I have the incredible privilege that my favorite House are not the Targaryens (which exclude some of my fav Characters of being targs btw, on that note DAYNE STAYS ON TOP), but I also dont violently hate them. So I like to think i'm at least a little objective on this-

I dislike people cloak-washing the maester to be good guys who hold no power or interest in politics when they are an organized faith in similar nature to the Catholic Faith in medieval europe. I also dislike people who try to twist this really into "ONE BIG THING THAT WAS VERY CAREFULLY ORGANIZED FOR CENTURIES AND PULLED OFF EVERY TARGARYEN DEATH!!", just as much (if not even more- since I did see people trying to use this theory as an excuse why targaryens rulers, or even princes and princesses behaved horrible and rancid ((e.g. saw someone the other day try to use this theory to excuse Aegon ii for being a "set up" horrible ruler and person so the there would be more discord against the targs in General- which could be an interesting thought, but not when you use it to excuse all of the bs he did))).

Theories are theories, they aren't set in stone, they are what comes from a multitude of related 'incidents' that happen too often to be ignored.

However they are a broad branch, people will interpret them different- that is a given. So I would just enjoy more specific terms or being down to open up theories more (e.g. grand maester conspiracies could also fall under grand maester conspiracy), and maybe just try to sort them under their nature.

But yeah just my thoughts on this lol.

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"it cant be in everything" IT IS IN THE QUESTION OF SUCCESSION AND INHERITANCE. GOD DO YOU SRSLY THINK THAT MISOGONISTIC WESTEROS RLLY NEEDED CONVINCING TO COMMIT TREASON AGAINST A WOMAN???

AHHHHH I WANT TO SCREAM HOW HOW HPW CAN YOU BE A WOMEN AND SUPPORT AEGON, HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND ACTUALLY FUCKING TYPE "BROKEN BOY" HE WAS A MAN IN HIS 20S NOT FUCKUNG 14?? HE AINT EVEN A BOY BY WESTEROS STANDARD?? HOW LITERALLY HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND READ HOW UNQUALIFIED THIS MAN IS FOR THE THRONE, HOW HE MISTREATS SERVANTS, HIS SISTERS, HIS OWN FUCKING FAMILY (CELEBRATING THE MURDER OF UR NEPHEW??? HELLO???) AND TYPE OH RHEANYRA IS AT FAULT, RHEANYRA HERE RHEANYRA THAT OH MY GOD ALL AEGON HAD WAS A DICK AND GOOD POLITICAL BACKING, HE WAS NOT TRAINED TO BE KING HOW HOW HOWWWWW AS A WOMAN?? YOU SAT THERE READING ABOUT SA AND WERE LIKE "OH YEAH THATS MY KING!!"?? YOU GO AND SRSLY SAY "THE BLACKS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT MISOGONY AGAIN🙄🙄" GIRL OMFG GIRL IM GONNA HOLD UR HAND WHILE SAYING THIS BUT.THIS.IS.THE.POINT. THATS THE WHOLE ARGUMENT OF THE GREENS BETRAYAL AND UPSURPTION. THEY DIDNT PULL UP WITH A 70 SLIDES POWERPOINT "WHY AEGON IS MORE TRAINED THEN RHEANYRA", THEY PULLED HIM WITH HIM HAVING HIS PANTS DOWN GOING "IM A GUY!!". GOD IM SCREAMING HOW. GENUINELY HOW. AND THEN COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPARISONS BETWEEN THE *BLOOD BETRAYAL* AND THE DANCE? SUCKING OUT THE FANTASY FROM FANTASY BOOKS, JFC WHAT?? ITS THERE FOR A REASON? THE EMPIRE OF THE DAWN IS IMPORTANT, DID YOU READ ANY OF THE BOOKS AT ALL OR ARE U JUST WATCHING SHITTY HILL'S ALIVE VIDEOS? AHHHHHH

Sorry i had to rant this out, omfg how how how was a WOMAN???

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AHHHHH I WANT TO SCREAM HOW HOW HPW CAN YOU BE A WOMEN AND SUPPORT AEGON, HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND ACTUALLY FUCKING TYPE "BROKEN BOY" HE WAS A MAN IN HIS 20S NOT FUCKUNG 14?? HE AINT EVEN A BOY BY WESTEROS STANDARD?? HOW LITERALLY HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE AND READ HOW UNQUALIFIED THIS MAN IS FOR THE THRONE, HOW HE MISTREATS SERVANTS, HIS SISTERS, HIS OWN FUCKING FAMILY (CELEBRATING THE MURDER OF UR NEPHEW??? HELLO???) AND TYPE OH RHEANYRA IS AT FAULT, RHEANYRA HERE RHEANYRA THAT OH MY GOD ALL AEGON HAD WAS A DICK AND GOOD POLITICAL BACKING, HE WAS NOT TRAINED TO BE KING HOW HOW HOWWWWW AS A WOMAN?? YOU SAT THERE READING ABOUT SA AND WERE LIKE "OH YEAH THATS MY KING!!"?? YOU GO AND SRSLY SAY "THE BLACKS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT MISOGONY AGAIN🙄🙄" GIRL OMFG GIRL IM GONNA HOLD UR HAND WHILE SAYING THIS BUT.THIS.IS.THE.POINT. THATS THE WHOLE ARGUMENT OF THE GREENS BETRAYAL AND UPSURPTION. THEY DIDNT PULL UP WITH A 70 SLIDES POWERPOINT "WHY AEGON IS MORE TRAINED THEN RHEANYRA", THEY PULLED HIM WITH HIM HAVING HIS PANTS DOWN GOING "IM A GUY!!". GOD IM SCREAMING HOW. GENUINELY HOW. AND THEN COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPARISONS BETWEEN THE *BLOOD BETRAYAL* AND THE DANCE? SUCKING OUT THE FANTASY FROM FANTASY BOOKS, JFC WHAT?? ITS THERE FOR A REASON? THE EMPIRE OF THE DAWN IS IMPORTANT, DID YOU READ ANY OF THE BOOKS AT ALL OR ARE U JUST WATCHING SHITTY HILL'S ALIVE VIDEOS? AHHHHHH

Sorry i had to rant this out, omfg how how how was a WOMAN???

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Shout out to Aerys I for not giving a damn and making Aelora Heir, U just KNOW the small council was mad asf

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So you're telling me the story that starts with the queen dying in an attempt to give the king a son even though they already had a daughter, the story in which that same daughter is named heir, the story in which the new Queen attempts to slutshame a little girl to have her son on the throne, the story where that same girl now woman is usurped for the crime of daring to want something other than being a walking womb, for wanting something she was promised, the story where that same woman is known as "Maegor with teats" when she didn't even cause half the destruction her half brother caused (proving that history is kinder to cruel men), the story where after her death no more dragons where born until one of her female descendants brought them back to life, THAT story is about how war is bad?

And here I thought that story was about misogyny, oops, silly me

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just finished my semester, might do a quick analysis on how to handle historical sources (since a lot of yall apparently are unable to do so) in asoiaf 🙂 yes. this is about mushroom.

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Always weird to me to see so many of the people being violently against targaryen women but also EXCUSING every targaryen men? Like how tf can you go on and be anti Dany and then turn around and EXCUSE Aegon ii/Aemond (and Sometimes even viserys?)? Like?? Can someone explain this to me? And dont give me the "colonizer" crap, so were the first men and andals (and we all know how the faith of the seven treats women), genuinely I wanna know why the hatred against targ women (and especially Dany??) is so rancid meanwhile targ guys can go around and SA, murder, abuse, terrorize half of westeros and that somehow being excused by the very same people??

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I'm genuinely going crazy with how many people are really saying "The dance isnt about misogyny !!!", YES IT IS AND ALWAYS WAS. Just because HBO completely failed to adapt it right doesnt change the reason?? I need a break god

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you're anti hotd cause your favorite wet cat aemond/aegon doesn't get enough sad screentime, I'm anti hotd cause of they butchered EVERY.SINGLE.CHARACTER. We are NOT the same. 💀

In all seriousness, how is the tag anti hotd used by people watching this show and only doing that? Genuinely wondering, because it doesn't come off as "I'm against the show because they never bothered to stay true to the source or respect it", but rather "nOoOooo aEmOND mY pOOr bAbY!!1!1!1!!!", like jfc.