#ask: thg

[alwaysspeakshermind]

What do you think about Madge Undersee? Any headcanons?

Do you think her gift of the gold Mockingjay pin to Katniss just a coincidence? Or is there any connection to the rebellion in District 12?

Why do you think she brought the morphling after Gale’s whipping in Catching Fire?

How did you feel about Madge’s exclusion from the movies?

Who would be your fancast for Madge if there is a new adaptation?

Thank you so much :)

@curiousnonny

MADGE! My underrated, unsung, practically unknown no thanks to the films hero!

Ugh, where to begin.

(Also: sorry it's taken me so long to reply to this, and thank you for the ask! Madge Undersee deserves better than people who only watched the films going "Wait, you mean Mags, right?" 💖)

Even though we don't ever get to know her to the extent that we get to know characters like Finnick, or Prim, or even Plutarch, I love that we're able to see what kind of a person she is through what she does. (For instance: she is the mayor's daughter which basically elevates her to a certain position of status, but the girl she considers a friend/eats lunch with in silence every day, is a girl from The Seam. She tries to make light of a serious topic like the Reaping through jokes, brings a pin that once belonged to her aunt who made it very far into a particularly horrible edition of the Games to Katniss as a present, brings some of her mother's expensive meds for Gale, etc.) I like that she sort of befriends Katniss against her will, and doesn't treat her any differently after the latter becomes something of a de facto celebrity, and that she seems to instinctively understand that Katniss wants/needs companionship that doesn't involve guilt, pity, pressure, hero-worship, forced happiness etc., and does her best to offer that without any strings attached.

I think her gift of the pin was more coincidence than anything else, but I also think that it's fun to headcanon that Madge maybe spends some of her long, lonely evenings eavesdropping on her father's meetings/calls. And that maybe at some point she overheard something about how Haymitch won his Games, that he was partnered with her aunt (the original wearer of the pin), and thought that it might possibly do Katniss some good if he saw her wearing it.

Re: Gale and the morphling: The simplest explanation is that Madge is a kind person who considers Katniss a friend, and because of that would obviously try to help out someone who is basically Katniss' family.

That being said, I've always leaned toward the idea that maybe there were some sparks between Madge and Gale that we don't get to see, because it always seemed to me that he talks sharply to her in the beginning of THG in a way that doesn't seem fully connected to her being one of the richer kids. Like yes, I'm definitely reaching here, but to me, there's an aspect to it that feels like he might be a little attracted to her but annoyed because he assumes that since she's from the merchant side of town she probably thinks herself better than kids from The Seam. And, since Katniss and we all know that's not the case, I choose to believe that Haymitch's remark in CF is related to a Madge/Gale connection...maybe, while being grumpy about how close Katniss and Peeta were getting, Gale started hanging out more with Madge, since they in essence both lost their best friend while she was gone to the Games/busy on the tour, and maybe that's when he realized she's not stuck-up, and maybe there were some hints of something more between them, and maybe that's why Madge rushed over to offer help in the one way Gale would be unable to refuse.

"How did you feel about Madge’s exclusion from the movies?"

*feelings summarized in gif below*

While I understand that not EVERYTHING can make it into the films due to time constraints, I think that excluding Madge from the first movie made it that much easier to exclude the story of Maysilee Donner from the narrative, which in turn lessened the significance of the pin itself and helped keep the details of the last Quarter Quell from making it into CF. (Which, in my humble opinion, is a huge loss. The impact Haymitch's Games had on him essentially shape him into the character we know, and it adds another layer to the rebellion angle once we learn that Madge, whose family is supposed to represent the Capitol's presence in District 12, has inadvertently gifted Katniss a direct reminder to Snow/the Capitol of their failure to control Haymitch at a time when they're actively failing to control Katniss and Peeta.)

So, all in all? I think it was a mistake to not include Madge, and I'm honestly still a little bitter about it. It's not even as if a huge part had to be written for whoever they cast. We just needed to see her enough to establish her relationship to Katniss, and it would've made the losses in MJ so much more emotional if it were made clear that someone Katniss spent a lot of time with over the years was just gone...without warning, without any chance for a goodbye, and literally in the blink of an eye. Like, on some level, I can't believe I'm advocating for more sadness from the MJ films, but I really do believe it would have added a lot of depth if she had just been included in a small way.

"Who would be your fancast for Madge if there is a new adaptation?"

This is a little outside the age-range now, but I think I've always pictured someone like Elle Fanning. Madge has a sort of quiet strength/calm kindness mixed with humor about her, and I think that EF would play that very well <3

[mariibarrasworld]

yall are mad about all the people in twelve knowing each other when twelve is canonically the smallest district and all of them WOULD be the same age if they were alive. lol. lmao even

[effieotto]

why are we saying it is fan service because characters from the same universe had…being in the same universe? Mags and Wires were long known Victors that Haymitch had already said were his friends, and Effie…you guys think she had just magically materialized herself as Twelve Escort? A writer wrote a book explaining the origin of her own characters and now we are upset about it?

[shinynewmemories]

Katniss describing her two Husband Options:

Ah yes, Gale. The One I have Chosen. My best friend. My hunting partner. He is mine and I am his. We're always together, except all the times we're not. No, his absence doesn't really bother me. He always has my back. Unless he's mad at me, in which case he says very mean things and shoves me. I don't crave his kisses or give him mine without immediately wanting to take them back. We never touch and that's fine with me. I absolutely would not marry him under any circumstances.

Peeta? No, we're strictly friends. Actually, we're engaged, but that's Snow's agenda. No, I don't hate the idea of marrying him. In fact, I could do so much worse. I mean, he's kind and strong and smart and generous. He bakes my favorite breads for me. He makes me laugh. He gives me hope. Sometimes when we kiss, I feel this strange sensation in my chest and I want more. It's probably nothing. Anyway, we spend hours alone together and I never get tired of looking at him. I actually feel safer with him than anyone else. I just wish things weren't so complicated and he could sleep in my bed every night...

[itsajollyjester]

I don’t precisely know how to phrase this, and truly, I have too many things I would simply die to see in your wonderful style, so I can throw some potential inspiration out there:

1. (More THG adjacent but) I am so compelled by the fact that Lenore Dove, Lucy Gray, and Peeta all have a connection to the color orange … would you ever draw a Lenore Dove-centric piece with nods to LGB & P?

2. And then of course any scene with Haymitch … I simply love the way you illustrate him … particularly the way you show us scenes from the trilogy from his POV … 👀👀👀👀

3. Orrr maybe, more SOTR specific … Burdock (perhaps emerging from the mist in the woods as he does) and the Covey graves …

But honestly, I’ll gobble up anything you create with a spoon. A spoon, I tell you.

All very very very good suggestions!

BUT something people might not know about me is Burdock has been one of my absolute FAVORITE HG characters for YEARS now (when his name was revealed my reaction actually startled my friend I was with)

And in the epilogue Haymitch’s mentions him proudly touting baby Katniss around

I HAD to draw him proudly with both his little girls

[ssweeterthanfiction]

finnick odair and silent ways he tells you he loves you before dating?

You Are In Love

content warnings: mentions of panic attacks, implied trafficking of victors

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Finnick Odair, who has been there for you ever since you won your games. He visits your house everyday, flowers and a small bag of muffins in hand, that same boyish grin on his face when he sees you.

Finnick Odair, who goes with you to Victor's Village private beach, watching as you collect seashells, admiring how pretty you look in the sun.

Finnick Odair, who constantly brings you small gifts and knicknacks. He's like a crow, always bringing you shiny interesting items from the market and from the Capitol. He even brings you a rare item to District 4, a pretty little snowglobe.

Finnick Odair, who is by your side anytime you feel under the weather. He makes you soup, makes sure you stay hydrated, makes sure you're warm and comfortable, never letting you lift a single finger.

Finnick Odair, who accompanies you to the market, carrying all your bags/baskets back to your house, insisting they aren't at all heavy.

Finnick Odair, who is always by your side during Capitol events. Always holding you hand, hooking his arm with yours, kissing your knuckles softly, and always finds a way to dance with you. And whenever he does, it always seems lik your both in your own world, like the snowglobe he brought you from one of his trips to the Capitol, protected by a delicate bubble of glass.

Finnick Odair who helps you through panic attacks. He holds you close to his chest, presses his lips to your forehead, strokes your hair and whispers comforting words into your ears.

"It's okay angel."

"I'm right here."

"You're safe with me."

***Finnick Odair, who protects you from the horrors of the Capitol and the citizens, making a deal with Snow that he'll take on more clients under the condition that you won't be harmed in any way.

Finnick Odair, who realizes he is more in love with you than he originally thought.

Finnick Odair, who is the best boyfriend ever. He is your soulmate, you are his. You both are in love. True love.

***part two. (a continuation of the *** one.)

[liberalk1tsch]

This has been an unpopular opinion but i actually think after the books Peeta wouldn’t like Gale not because of jealousy but because he treated Katniss really rough. What do you think?

can’t wait to get cancelled for this one LMAO. warning: if you’re someone who can’t accept criticism of gale, just dni.

i think peeta despises gale, and not because of anything remotely resembling jealousy. HOWEVER. i don’t think he would ever push his feelings toward gale on katniss.

peeta isn’t disrespectful toward her relationship with gale. even when it pains him. he’s made a couple snide comments about their weird dynamic, but he’s never badmouthed gale. ever. even when gale doesn’t pay him the same respect.

peeta’s smart enough to know it’s a sensitive topic. friend breakups suck, even if the reason they end is cos they were turning sour. he’d listen and probably agree with katniss if she brought it up herself and needed to vent, but i highly doubt he’d go out of his way to voice every grievance he’s had with gale unprompted.

internally though? if gale has no haters, peeta mellark is dead.

the last interaction we know of between him and gale is the conversation in tigris’ basement when gale tries to tell peeta that katniss will choose whoever she can’t survive without, which is a) incorrect and b) incredibly reductive of her feelings toward both of them, which is especially cruel coming from the person who’s supposed to be her best friend.

and i never see anyone talk ab that it’s lowkey a jab at peeta too considering gale has previously established a distinct lack of faith in peeta’s survival skills in cf (doesn’t want him to come along into the wilderness when katniss suggests they make a run for it, both bc of jealousy and bc he continually underestimates him (and then proceeds to call him a traitor in mj for doing whatever it takes to survive? bffr guy)).

alas, peeta doesn’t care how gale feels ab him. he never has. but katniss? i don’t need to read peeta’s pov to know this man was utterly baffled at what gale was yapping ab. like. by the end of mj, katniss herself narrates that there’s no sign of the kids they were when they became friends in the woods.

he just doesn’t know her anymore, at least not the person she’s become, and this is when it becomes clear to peeta that he’s been severely overestimating gale’s role in katniss’ life. he only knows what he has seen and what our lovely, unreliable katniss has told him, and she was actively trying not to pit them against each other.

but in the basement, this is the first time peeta hears things unfiltered from gale’s side, the first time he hears how off base he was to assume that there was so much more to their relationship than there is. bc wdym he thinks he has a chance w katniss when he’s not even bothering to factor her feelings into it?

and peeta thought he was the crazy one.

not to mention the fact that of everyone gale saved, he didn’t manage to save a single member of peeta’s family.

and yk what? credit where credit is due — it is thanks to gale that so many people made it out of 12 alive.

but personally, i have my doubts about how hard he tried to get the townies out. the seam and victors village are on opposite sides of town; he would’ve had to go through the town square to get prim and asterid to the meadow. past the bakery. past the justice building. past peeta’s and madge’s families.

knowing full well how important they are to katniss.

delly and her brother are the only townies i can recall from mj, the rest are seam, and he could have easily just plucked them up if they were outside when they ran through the square.

is it a fucked up idea that he might leave them behind in favour of saving seam kids? yes. but that doesn’t make it any less plausible. i wouldn’t be surprised if that same thought has crossed peeta’s mind, especially considering gale isn’t exactly subtle about his disdain for townies.

so yeah. i don’t reckon peeta likes gale at all. but he respects katniss and their history enough to keep that to himself.

i really need to figure out how to shorten these rants of mine lol

[charlunday]

Like everyone else I immediately drew Haymitch and Lenore Dove (even though we literally have no idea what she looks like yet)

I can't wait another DAY for sotr guys I'm gonna chew through the walls

commissions open!

[greywitchproject]

Vacant eyes

[mikonez]

I like them a normal amount.

[orie-jai]

So if Katniss and Peeta are Penelope and Odysseus

And Haymitch and Lenore Dove are Orpheus and Eyuridice

Then that makes Coriolanus Snow and Lucy Gray Jason and Medea

So i did end up writing that essay but I also wanna point out the amazing analysis included here and here 💛

[erros429]

Hi :} do you still take suggestions? Is it cool if you make a chimera falin post? If its fine with you. Thank you :)

chimera falin…… shes soaugh hot…… here’s dungeon meshi textposts pt40 sorry it's been a second since i made one of these

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[sweetpee-ta]

GOD I wish burdock got to meet peeta formally when he wasn’t a child

[mariigoldzz]

I don't care what the everlark children are named and I don't care what happened to Lucy Gray. all I want to know is if Haymitch had domestic geese or Canadian geese

[marvelsswansong]

Imagine corio seeing a woman flirt with r he’s so confused cuz he’s used to disgusting men after her only

no but like seriously 🌞👉👈

Corio isn't oblivious to the fact that there is a price for dating someone as beautiful as you. Namely, that others - doesn't matter if they're complete strangers or close working colleagues - will secretly want you, with some of them even being bold enough to try and entice you.

This is all much to his annoyance, as he tries being very public about the fact that you're his. Think constant arm around your waist, aggressive kisses in public, loudly calling you 'darling' from across the room. But that doesn't seem to deter everyone.

Especially not the types of men in the Capitol.

If he's feeling calmer that day, he might just stop at glaring at the man whilst pulling you away by the waist, or knocking the breath of you by suddenly grabbing your face and kissing you fiercely for the crowd of men to see. If he's in a sour mood, or it's been a hard week, you have to be careful to keep an eye on the blonde in case he flies into a fit of rage and his mind starts to scan the room for whatever is sharp and capable of causing damage.

"Sometimes I feel as if I have to babysit you." you would tease after one particularly harsh night, where you and Corio get thrown out of a house party after he smashed another man's face into the wall and then proceeded to twist the man's arm to the point of almost breaking a bone. Granted, the man had been extremely aggressive towards you and making very inappropriate comments, but it'd been rather awkward to see the stranger be carried onto an ambulance whilst the head of the household ordered the both of you out.

Chest heaving and knuckles still bruised from the impact, he'd just kiss you again, his tongue tasting of copper.

"Can't help it. You're too pretty." he whispers, and all your criticisms of him would fly out the window.

But Coriolanus is always less guarded when it's a woman around you. After all, you have so many best friends who are women, you spend so much time around grandma'am and Tigirs, and so on. He just associates women being around you with platonic love and comfort.

So when you leave him to go get some drinks at the bar, a fancy upper east side bar you've been begging to go to, he's too busy searching the room for potential men who approach you to notice the red haired woman beelining towards you. She bumps into you 'on accident', pink champagne spilling over the tip of the glass just a bit - a light splash on your jeans, but nothing too bad.

"Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry." she quickly says, grabbing a nearby napkin to hand it off to you. Coriolanus watches the interaction from the back of the club, the specifics of your conversation with her unintelligble over the loud music, but he doesn't think anything much of it. Even when the auburn haired woman's fingers brush against yours whilst exchanging the napkin.

He watches as you smile politely at her, probably telling her that it's okay, before turning around to the bartender to make an order. The woman next to you continues to talk to you through out the exchange, which again doesn't raise any red flags to Corio.

After all, women are very friendly by nature. It's normal that someone, especially a stranger who feels bad for spilling a drink on you, wants to continue to talk to you.

You don't think much of it either on your end, other than thinking that she - Clara, she tells you her name after a soft giggle - is very nice.

It's only when the drinks arrive and the woman stops you, lightly sitting you back down and brushing away the hair from your eyes, that Coriolanus starts feeling rather odd. The sudden wide eyes on your face and the red haired woman's smirk, before she slides you a piece of paper from her back pocket and lets you go, raises a lot of questions in his mind.

His top options? Something along the lines of bribery or illegal drugs. Or maybe she's using you to get something from him. Or maybe she wants something from your family.

What he doesn't expect, is for you to come back totally speechless, fingers deftly hanging onto the small piece of paper. You look somewhere between embarrassed and shocked, refusing to meet your boyfriend's eyes as you sit down next to him. He frowns at that, patting his lap instead.

Normally, you'd sit on his legs without a second thought. This time though, you hesitate.

"What'd she want? Drugs? Mone-" he growls, only to be cut off by the stranger.

"So you weren't lying. You do have a boyfriend." the red haired woman cuts into the conversation, now sitting on the velvet chair across from you. Coriolanus swears his jaw almost drops when the woman laughs seductively, winking at you whilst uncrossing her legs.

"You can sit on my lap instead, honey."

"I, you- I just-" Coriolanus starts speaking in an attempt to swear or scare her off, but his mind totally blanks.

You've never seen your boyfriend this flustered. His pale complexion breaks into a dark shade of red, his usually stern gaze darting back and forth between you and the woman, his speech stuttered and jumbled. It's YOU who ends up having the composure to let her down gently, holding out the paper with her phone number out towards her and informing her that you love your boyfriend very much and you're not that interested.

She pouts at that, and it makes your boyfriend's jaw clench so hard his face aches.

"Aw... alright, darling. But keep the paper. You know, just in case you wanna play."

With a wink and a hair flip, she disappears into the dark crowd of sweaty bodies and loud music. It's only then that your boyfriend snaps into action, taking the paper into his hands and shredding it to pieces.

"She called you darling." he snarls, angry. "Only I get to call you darling."

You just giggle, kissing away his sour expression, before tugging at his sleeves.

"Come on, forget about it. Let's just dance." you say, the alcohol in your veins still making you feel buzzed. He complies, never being able to say no to you, but the entire night, he can't help but hold you very close and glare at everyone who approaches you or even looks at you.

Regardless of their gender.

Now, he has to protect you from everyone, he thinks.

BONUS SCENARIO (later in the night)

You've had one too many drinks and yell into Coriolanus' ear that you really need to go to the bathroom. You clutch your handbag and stumble into the corridor, leaving your boyfriend alone by the bar. A stunning blonde woman slides into the empty seat next to him, glossy lips parting to ask a question.

Thinking she's going to hit on him, he raises his right hand, stopping her on the spot.

"I'm not interested, sorry."

The woman scoffs at that, ordering a tequila shot and almost glaring at him.

"Neither am I, genius. I was just wondering if you knew the name of the cutie who just went to the bathroom."

The moment you come back, he practically drags you out of the bar and hails a cab back to the apartment.

He's had enough of women trying to steal you from him. At least for that night.

a/n: hope you guys like this small type of blurbs too in between major fics hehe

[ssweeterthanfiction]

waiiiiit need a fic where reader finds out finnick told snow he’d take on more clients to ensure she’s safe

YOU ASK AND YOU SHALL RECIEVE!!

Innocent

HEAVY content warnings: trafficking of victors, panic attack, self hatred, suidcidal thoughts.

part one. (not necessary to read, but if you would like some background i would definitely suggest reading this first)

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It was late. Finnick had just gotten home from a long trip. He was gone for nearly a month. A month away from you felt like years. A month away from your smile, a month away from your laughter, a month away from your warm touch.

Tiredly, he walks into the living room of your shared home, flicking on a lamp so he could see better.

He was exhausted.

For the past few weeks it had been nonstop. A new person every single night. At times he would think, if he should even keep up with all of it. But then he remembered why he was doing this, to keep you shielded from the truth, to keep you protected.

"If you want her to remain untouched, you take on the responsibility of the people that would've wanted her."

He passes by a mirror and sees his reflection. He sees the scratches and bruises left by his 'lovers'. He stares at them for a moment, wanting to just rip the skin off of his body instead of just covering them up and playing it off as injuries that he would get from fishing and swimming, maybe then he won't feel dirty and used.

He plops onto the couch, his entire body aching. He puts his head in his hands, thinking that he should end his misery already.

He scolds himself for this.

Finnick hated that he had such thoughts of quiting everything, he hates himself for wanting to give up, he hates feeling dirty, he hates feeling used, he hates himself for allowing Snow to make him bend at his will.

He couldn't handle it anymore. He couldn't handle being treated like a toy. He just wanted it all to end.

But if he truly ended it all, he would be leaving you. He would be leaving you to the hands of the Capitol.

And how they wanted to get their hands on you.

He felt tears well up in his eyes, he felt his hands begin to shake, he felt his heart race.

Then he heard quiet footsteps.

"Finn? Is that you?"

He turns his head and sees you in one of his shirts and your pajama bottoms.

"Yea it's me angel"

You rub your eyes and slowly walk toward the couch. "What time is it?"

"Late." Finnick says, trying to hold back his tears.

You sit down next to him, even though you're half asleep you notice that he's trembling. You move close to him and put a hand on his shoulder.

"Finnick?...Are you alright?" you say in a gentle tone.

Feeling your warm touch, Finnick breaks down.

You wrap your arms around him, "Finn? Finn what's wrong?" you say as you stroke his hair, trying your best to comfort him.

"I-I'm so sorry angel. I'm so sorry" he says through tears.

You look at him with confusion, "You're sorry for what Finn?"

"For everything. I'm so sorry, I can't do it anymore angel...I can't. I'm so tired." he says as he begins to hyperventilate.

You feel alarms going off inside your head. "Finn. Finnick please talk to me. Please." you say in a soothing tone as you cup his face in your hands.

"I can't keep doing this...I can’t keep pretending, keep smiling for them, keep letting them—" his voice breaks, his breath becomes more uneven.

"Finnick who are you talking about?"

"S-Snow- the entire Capitol-" he says, trembling as he practically sobs in your hands, shaking his head.

You press your lips to his forehead, resting yours against his when you pull away, "Finny...please talk to me,

He sniffles, "They own me. Snow… he owns me."

"Own you? What are you talking about Finny?"

He bites his lip, is he really about to tell you the whole truth?

"He… he sells me. To his friends. To anyone with enough money or influence. And if I say no, if I fight back, he threatens… everyone I care about."

You can feel a pit form in your stomach, you pull him into a tight hug, letting him cry in your arms. "Finny..." you whisper, stroking his hair, "How long has this been going on?"

"S-Since I was sixteen, and they parade me around like I was some prize, some… toy. That's why I take so many trips to the Capitol. That's why I act the way I act. I play the role because- because I thought it meant keeping everyone I cared about safe. But I can’t stop it. I can’t stop him."

"And the worst part? They love it. The Capitol loves it. They think I’m... happy. That I want this." he says, his tears wetting the fabric of your shirt. "But it’s never enough. Snow always wants more."

You tighten your embrace, letting him cry it all out.

"He threatened you, angel. He wanted to do this same thing to you. I couldn’t let that happen. He would’ve taken you, used you, broken you. And I couldn’t live with that. I couldn’t let him touch you. So I made a deal. I told him I’d take on more, do whatever he wanted, as long as he left you alone. That's why my trips have been so much longer."

Your heart shatters. You can feel tears begin to well in your eyes, you don't even know what to say. He's been dealing with so much. Alone. Just to keep you protected. "Oh..Finny" you say shakily, pressing gentle kisses to his forehead.

"I hate him. I hate myself for letting him control me. But I couldn’t stand the thought of you s-suffering . I’d do it again if it meant keeping you safe."

You pull away from him slightly, making just enough space so you can press your lips against his.

"I did it to protect you angel. I lovd you too much to- to let you go through that. I couldn't let you go through any of that, you don't deserve to."

You kiss him again, "I know Finny. I know." you say in a gentle tone, kissing his forehead. "And I love you for that. I love you so much Finny."

You pull him into a tight embrace again, letting his get all his bottled up emotions out.

"I'm sorry for keeping this from you angel."

"It's not your fault Finny.." you whisper. "None of it is. It's Snow. Not you."

For the next few hours, you cuddle with Finnick on the couch. Running your fingers through his hair til you both fall asleep in eachother's embrace.

part three.

A/N: MY SHAYLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA☹️💔