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Over here bashing my head into a wall @ people calling Hold Them Down problematic like NO ITS NOT. IT IS NOT PROBLEMATIC TO HAVE A REALISTIC REPRESENTATION OF ANYTHING. YOURE PROBLEMATIC FOR TRYING TO BURY AND ERASE ONE OF THE FEW PIECES OF MAINSTREAM MEDIA WE HAVE THAT SO SHAMELESSLY AND WONDERFULLY PORTRAYS THESE ISSUES.
Like what is their issue? This shit HAPPENS and turning your nose up at even the implication of someone victimising someone in such a way is directly contributing to the issues and stigma around SA that caused such harm to survivors and victims, and which allows perpetrators to get away free. JFC
#also I’m pretty sure antinous wanted to sa Telemachus as well just like what (apparently) happens in the og story#as is implied with the continued themes of holding him down and taking away his pride/trust/faith which mirrors antinous lyrics about pen#it is my honest belief that people who accuse creators for being problematic for showcasing real issues in a respectful manner#are projecting themselves onto them#like. why do you feel so guilty you feel the need to shift the blame onto an innocent person?#epic the musical#rant#tw: sa
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Imagine if Aziraphale runs heaven like the bookshop and he’s just hanging out doing absolutely nothing but shuffling papers around to look busy while keeping inconsistent office hours and tracking Crowley back on earth all day long and stress snacking, and that’s what ends up ruining heavens plans for the second coming.
#I love projecting myself onto fictional characters 🥰#it would actually stay consistent with the how the main conflicts in s1 and s2 sort of took care of themselves without their help#but also#I just want to see both of them down bad for each other#if aziraphale is avoiding work just know crowley is a mess too#this is a joke btw#aziraphale will rip that place apart#good omens#ineffable husbands
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i could never be on sports twitter like i need to be confined in an echo chamber consisting solely of girls & gays or else i will go insane
#1 note from a tumblrina is worth more than 10000000 retweets#and i cannot stand straight men’s opinions on sports like all of them are projecting themselves onto the players it’s bizarre
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People will hate on Snape for being mean and sarcastic with children but he was mean and sarcastic with everyone. He was just treating his students with the same respect he gave everyone else, if you think about it.
#tbh I'm really tired of Americans projecting their “anyone under 18 is a baby and must be infantilized” attitude onto nonAmerican characters#British teachers treat students like tiny adults#you can take issue with that but it's a cultural thing not something unique to a character you speficially don't like#British teachers also call students “Mr./Ms. ____” because again they treat children like tiny adults in a lot of ways#and tbh I think some of it reasonable. teenagers are still developing but treating them as people with responsibility for themselves#is a form of respecting their autonomy
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never ceases to amaze me the lengths that people will go to in order to pretend like sam isn’t naturally compassionate / kind and claim he only pretends to be, while emphasizing his supposedly “monstrous” traits that he supposedly must always be fighting against. why are you (broader fandom) pretending like every single thing he says is a part of an elaborate scheme. can you at least pretend to actually care about who sam really is for literally one singular second
#been said many times before bc this happens literally everywhere. “constantly fighting against his inner demons” do you mean the justified#anger from growing up in an unsafe and abusive lifestyle.#this goes hand and hand to me with people pretending like the only emotion that motivated preseries (& also s4) sam was anger#yes that is part of it but there is SO much more there that people are just refusing to look at because they’ve convinced#themselves sam must be lying. because how could someone Monstrous / Tainted be genuine#it feels like it all just comes back to the idea that he has to be Sam (monstrous) or Sammy (baby brother) when there's literally#a whole episode about how sam is a combination of multiple parts and he cannot be whittled down to just one#stop projecting dean onto sam to make dean look better. it's not fun#you're thinking about the characters the way that the other characters in-universe think about them and that's not fun either <3#sw#star notes#(i've had this in my drafts for half the day and i'm finally flaring enough to not care and post it godbless)
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I think Toriel would totally get one of those projectors that show the stars to Sans. Maybe it came up that he loves astronomy or maybe Frisk or Papyrus let her know in secret, heck! Maybe it's from all of them. I think he wouldn't really know how to take it. Like bro sees it and goes '*oh neat.' and actually he's fucking dying inside.
#it's something to project onto the ceiling#so you can just look up and 'stargaze'#maybe they found it in the dump#still working by some miracle#that way it'd be rlly special#cause not only is it rare but it means you get to see the stars from the underground#maybe the monsters ask themselves#why would humans need a projector to see the stars when they have them every night?#not knowing there's too much smog in the city#too much light pollution#“* THEY MUST BE AS LAZY AS YOU SANS NYEHEHEH”#and actually we just fucked up the planet lolllll#and also it could just be nice before bed#to watch the stars#it's very relaxing#kinda bittersweet too obviously#undertale#sans undertale#sans#undertale thoughts#undertale papyrus#frisk undertale#undertale frisk#toriel#undertale toriel#undertale sans#not au stuff for once#papyrus undertale#utmv#might as well add the thirtieth tag
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the third prince is so interesting to me bc he's made of the themes. he subconsciously attempts to replicate his parents' power dynamic with his first (and only) real relationship except it's not even a real relationship bc his evil mistress is manipulating him the whole time. he looks like the physical ideal of warrior masculinity (you know. the one who died in the last book) except that he sucks and is useless and can't fulfill his singular purpose and literally everyone knows it. he's a hollow shell with nothing inside but also he's intelligent and perceptive and a whole person underneath it all but also it doesn't even matter who he is bc he's being slowly suffocated by other people's expectations and agendas but also he has no choice but to be nothing bc he can't be great. "what if you were willing to do anything to get what you wanted" well what if you didn't even know what you wanted. what if what you wanted was so completely opposed to who you are and what you were made for that you could never actually believe that you could have it. what then. he's happy about two people being tortured to death bc his mom didn't like them. he's the living embodiment of a crumbling heirless dynasty. he's a blushing maiden being seduced by an older man with ill intentions and he's a powerful royal whose lover is wholly reliant upon him for survival. he and baoxiang are both punishing each other for the things they hate about themselves. his death causes the end of the book. and he's been dead since the day he was born.
#the radiant emperor#he who drowned the world#anyway. filicide is so fun. love dynasties cannibalizing themselves#third prince and ma xiuying parallels. is that anything#they're both gay 19 year olds who wang baoxiang projects all his emotional issues onto before falling in love with them#also seeing through your lover's bullshit facade but not enough to know what they're truly capable of before it's too late#also being miserable in your set role but not seeing any alternative before other possibilities are shown to you by the power of gay sex#well. by the power of being seen and understood in a way no one ever has before. but mostly gay sex#also ouyang kills both of their dads but that's not proof of anything ouyang kills everyone's dad#i'm making the third prince/wbx dynamic more weird and freudian actually i think it's fascinating that wbx and lady ki are kind of the same#is this a coherent post? probably not
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I love getting validated on small things that I didn't even consider like it's always a treat and this time it's Gender
The Fundie Baby Voice™️ has been popping up a lot in ex-christian spaces lately and I actually had one in middle school and part of high school! I learned when and where to use it and how to turn up my southern accent just enough. I can still do it but it sounds weird after 3 years on T. The main place I used it was at church cause it made me sound sweet and polite. I used it for old ladies when I worked at a grocery store too. My family didn't like it when we were just all together cause they said it sounded like baby talk, but loved it when I used it at church cause everyone would tell them how sweet and soft-spoken I was
My therapist said it actively made him feel uncomfortable when I used that voice. He couldn't quite put his finger on why it made him uncomfortable (other than him only knowing me on T) but he very much did not like it and he's so so right for that
#he's a cishet white jewish man so it's always a treat when I talk about something like this#cause it started off about how I felt like my gender is a performance and I will use it to my advantage#I usually talk fairly neutrally and monotone so people find it uncanny when I change it up#especially if it's the way I talk to my family and the church folks that ask about me#Now that I'm on T and had top surgery I love fucking with ppl via my gender presentation#I like the chaos of not correcting ppl and watching them fight amongst themselves over what my gender is#My previous gender was Weird Little Girl#and now i'm Just Some Guy#I don't feel like I was always a guy I feel like my gender at the time was Weird Little Girl#and it changed over time but I loved the performance of being a weird little girl#I was not a girl I was specifically a WLG#And well I still know how to use my old performances even if I'm no longer a weird little girl#I consider myself a guy but not a man and a girlie but not a woman#my gender is whatever is funniest at the moment#My gender is whatever you project onto me. My gender is a mirror to your childhood trauma#anyways I kinda lost the plot but yea I can kinda still use the fundie baby voice but it sounds a lil off#cause I've been on T for over 3 years now#ex christian#religious trauma
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i still think we gotta have more algebralien gijinkas with human skin tones
#i love projecting onto my faves! you will be brown!#just tired of the same old have fun with them don’t restrict yourselff#people are reblogging this all i have to add is that i just like the thought of powerful number alien hiding themselves as ordinary humans!#its really funny and also makes exploring characters like two even more emotional in a gijinka setting
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abuse / trauma obviously isn’t an excuse for behavior and we see that notion applied (rightfully so most of the time) in fandom but i feel like in catra’s case you really can’t remove her suffering when analyzing why her redemption is written the way it is. she’s abused interpersonally and systematically as a child soldier from toddler age and it warps her perception of every relationship in her life to the point where she isolates herself to extreme degrees to the point that she’s consistently on the brink of a mental breakdown. yes she treats people like garbage yes she makes horrible decisions but her case is like…very extreme. and that’s not to necessarily play trauma olympics with characters in other pieces of media but i feel like people kind of downplay how that factors into her reasoning and also sort of forget how young she is throughout her entire story, flashbacks and all. so obviously the show is gonna have the good guys extend sympathy and not have her prove her worth. (which is one of the main ideas that messed her up in the first place) her arc needed more time but I think it’s unnecessary to devalue it just because the characters aren’t mad at her for as long as you want them to be, they offer her love and support as she exists but still don’t excuse or enable poor behavior and don’t allow her to be in their lives and make morally corrupt decisions. anyway ik it’s 2024 but that’s something I’ve thought for a while
#it also wasn’t ooc with how it went nor is that said often so i think it’s a lot of audience projection#and i mean that in the sense that people project what they would do onto a character or they think certain storylines should fit in a box#or it equals glorification#relationships are messy#ofc glimmer & adora who either have that shared traumatic upbringing or see themselves in her would forgive catra#and adora also just loves catra a lot but you get the point)#like idk i enjoy when stories play out in a way that are indicative of the characters background personalities etc rather than#‘objectively speaking this character did x y z they should at least take 5 episodes to forgive them.’#Bc it creates a more nuanced story but also obviously there are certain topics that do need to be written in a more strict manner#catradora#catra#she ra#spop#bree talks
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my hot take of the day is that clearly the people who swallow the in universe targ & valyrian exceptionalism are being completely taken in by the exact system that george is trying to critique but also i think the people who over correct into this idea that not a single targaryen is worthy of like, our empathy or sorrow or are rightfully chafing against the structures put in place by valyrians, first men, and andals alike are also being incredibly 2d in their analysis. i feel like this happens most often when people try to make the case that andals are somehow oppressed in westerosi society on a cultural level simply bc valyrian supremacy trumps andal culture. i think this is incredibly silly to say or posit as the truth in universe because there is in fact some oppression of culture in westeros but it’s not the andals lol!!! it’s the first men, the dornish, the rhoynar/greenblood orphans, and the ironborn. there Is some level of,,,, idk bigotry/xenophobia towards valyrians but only valyrians who don’t worship the faith - people like larra rogare, who still follow valyrian gods, do face this bigotry because they’re Too Foreign, the same way someone like thoros, melisandre, taena, etc who are essosi but not from a still heavy valyrian-based society like volantis and lys, and that’s definitely important to the conversation, because it shows the Dominant Culture is in fact the Andal culture when it comes to westeros and that’s like,,, fine, and even more interesting to me to see how andals, who have been the dominant force on westeros for thousands of years, interact with valyrians, who clearly want to keep ideas of valyrian supremacy alive somehow and essentially try to get the other dominant force in westeros to buy in (which they do!). like, are these two at odds sometimes? yes! but i don’t think it’s correct to say that the andals face ~prejudice for being andals or followers of the faith either!
#like certainly people in fandom get insane about the andals bc they’re projecting their hate of catholicism onto them.#but george himself is not writing about how all catholics are inherently evil he’s writing about the STRUCTURE being evil. i think the#series in fact finds something useful in one person’s individual faith & the way they may internalize it. that’s why we get the quiet isle!#getting on my soap box#yes i did see a post about the [redacted] being oppressed by the mean evil valyrians and rolled my eyes.#anyways like this idea that the valyrians are being forcibly assimilated? false! they are doing it very willingly as a matter of fact! aegon#and jaehaerys and viserys all in fact are clearly trying to mesh themselves with andals not bc they are forcing the family to assimilate#but bc they believe the only way to keep valyrian supremacy going is to team up with the culture in westeros that Does frequently impose#itself on its neighbors! i’m not saying the andals are like the ultimate big bad evil here either that’s just as stupid as the knee jerk#‘every targ is evil and anyone who fights them is morally corrupt’ thing that happens in this dumb ass fandom but i AM saying the andals cut#down every weirwood in the south & attempted to do like glorified missionary work in the iron islands instead of actually engaging w what it#is that makes the ironborn so fucking deranged.#anyways the only leaders who are unproblematic are mors and nymeria for managing to mesh two cultures in a way that wasn’t insane aksjdj#dorne has its problems re: deeply entrenched class structures & the use of marriage as punishment but at least people aren’t whipping#ellaria naked through the streets like the andals love to do to essosi women 😭😭#‘oh didn’t dorne oppress the rhoynar’ i said they were better not perfect thank you!!!!! aksjd
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what if i Dont want insane intense very niche and graphic smiling friends angst. what if i just want them to kiss and hang out and be funny. Why is that like a herculian writing task for ao3
#guys i would do it myself but i i i i i i ii i uhhhhh(head explodes)#sorry but Please. I Dont Want to read your sad projections onto these charactersLOL like not ALWAYS#the amount of angst for charpim is absolutely nutso and yeah i get down to it but the#the ratio between funny canon-aligned shit and just straight vent fics is like 1:10000000#Yes. I know they argue. in the show. but like. can you make them not try to kill themselves.#have we all forgotten what these freaks even look like#Pim holds the gun up to his smooth bald lavender temple....LIKE COME ONNNNNN LMAOOOOOOOO#so unserious
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y'all can all cancel me (again) for this, but if there's even a SHRED of 'who should I pick?' from Penelope in season 3, I am tuning out SO fast because like. . .sorry not sorry, there IS no choice. Debling is some crusty OC suitor she barely even knows and Colin is a man who she has been so supposedly in love with to the point where she'd ruin her entire family's reputation to have a potential love story with him. Penelope and Colin have background, years of knowing each other, intimacy that few people in the Ton can boast of having (letters, conversations about purpose, fights and arguments and makeups) and her and Debling have. . .a dance or two at a ball because he's a rebound for Penelope's broken heart. he means nothing. he has no nuance, he has no weight to the story, he is such an afterthought to me. either I wanna see Penelope going 'you know what? I don't even LIKE this dude. he's. . .fine, but I don't care about him even a shred as much as I care about Colin' or the INSTANT Colin's like 'you know what? we should get married' if it's not an immediate 'say less, you're already my husband, try returning me without the receipt, Debling whomst?' then I don't want it!
like. . .it's just so frustrating to see all the 'I hope Debling sweeps her off her feet and she rejects Colin's proposal and she makes him work for it and and and-' nonsense from the fandom and it's always tagged and no matter how many times I block it, it just keeps popping up. I go into the Polin tag for POLIN. I don't give a SHIT about a male love interest other than Colin. Not one. Not a shred. Not an iota.
and also. . .Debling has the 'benefit' of not having depth, or character traits, or HISTORY, so peeps can project onto him however they want, but I'm calling it now, there is NOTHING he could do or be that would make me like him more than Colin. Colin will always hit different, and I will always love him more. and if Pen's not on that same page? lol bye
you want me to believe Penelope and Colin are soulmates and it's romance for her to hem and haw about how difficult a decision it is for her to marry a stranger who knows barely anything about her. . .
when Marina was out here dropping banger lines like 'You were the only man with which I could see myself being happy' and 'I do not care about any of these men, where is Colin?'? like hello??? and she wasn't even fully in love with him!!!! but we'll demonize her until the cows come home in our fandom and make her the villain in Polin's love story for DARING to get in between Polin, yet Debling, a white man, is a darling dear perfect prince for getting in between Polin? existing in our fandom solely so Penelope can be like 'lol, Colin ain't shit, let me entertain any and everyone else'?
if that's the direction it goes then, ten toes down and on my mama, she doesn't deserve Colin and she can move because I'm on my way to court him my damn self
and that's that on that
#you know what? lol it's been a bit since i've posted a controversial opinion#tagging it#polin#sorry not sorry i ship polin. . .so i wanna see. . .polin. . .and i'm getting damn sick and tired#of all the bullshit pen/oc pen/other dude theories and stories in the polin tag#and i don't want polin to lose screentime over a frankly bleh male oc#you can't change my mind#if i don't see at least marina's 'you've seen him with the little bridgertons!' level of squee and 'i only want to talk to colin'#levels of devotion then i don't fucking WANT IT!!!!!#yeah definitely try out the marriage market#realize that NO ONE has a good time on the marriage market#try to get over him w/ whomstever#but then be like 'i don't even LIKE this dude where's colin i miss him' about it!!!!!#because otherwise i am not here#i am asleep#and i am courting colin in your place pen#i'm coming for your man#anti debling#if debling has 100 haters i am one of them if he has 10 haters i'm one of them if he has 1 hater i am the hater if he has 0 haters i'm dead#it's incredibly obvious that 'pebling' is half rooted in a revenge storyline fueled by anger at Colin and his complexity#and half a projection of wanting Penelope to have 'choices' because she is a representation and manifestation of the fans themselves#and so people think an OC that can be 'perfect' for them- whoops I mean Pen (because he doesn't have any real depth or interest)#he's a cardboard cutout we can throw whatever you want onto#so we can make him 'perfect' instead of the much more meaningful storyline of pen and colin both being messy and loving each other more#and part of it is bitterness over Polin not being insta-love#which. . .if it was i wouldn't like them as much as i do#anyways y'all ain't slick#and it's fucking WEIRD to be in a fandom that's like 'i ship this couple but i hope she gets with ANYONE else'#maybe you. . .don't ship the couple??#like. . .to the point of wanting her necklace to be from debling. . .and her wearing it everywhere??? WHAT??
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there's something about the wit being a gay allegory and having Fitz and Nighteyes both fear that once Fitz gets with Molly (dream happy ever after girl I don't truly love but carries my fantasies of a happy life and nuclear family) she'll force them to break apart and comply to a bond-less life
(for the record, I don't think Molly would care. It's the imagined fear from Fitz I think is interesting)
#from RA it's being established that Molly and Fitz are a known comfort to each other#but not really love because Molly deserves better and they fight as much as they make out#Molly's presence in his mind during AQ is very “the version of me that lives in you is kind to you right bro?” and for Fitz the answer is n#fitz projects his insecurities onto her and distances himself out of fear of them being confirmed#he could stand up to Starling and the entire mountain crew and explain the Wit - and then bonded with them so much more#there's something about both Molly and Fitz wanting to protect their childhood memories of each other that makes them lie to themselves#rote
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*clutching head* rodya and meursault would have such a good dynamic actually
I wonder if rodya would initially see meursault's indifference as like. a simpler version of her own feigned carefreeness and as a deliberate attempt to place himself as an outsider... only to realise that No, he really Is just Like That. and then she gets annoyed because it turns out that people who don't care about anything don't seem to be any fun.
(ofc he does actually care about a lot of things, just not necessarily his grander place in the world lol)
idk. nihilism vs absurdism. fun duo 👍 rodya would find meursault's genuine comfort with being a speck of dust in the universe baffling, while he would probably find her desire to assert her own importance pointless, but they could probably bond over little things like their shared desire to live in the present and appreciation of/indulgence in earthly joys. and meursault would probably listen if rodya wants to rant about anything without asking any uncomfortable questions. I think they could appreciate each other's presence.
#slamming my conspiracy board#listen it's not my fault meursault vibes with literally the entire female cast#rodya enjoyers help me out here please I haven't read crime and punishment am I talking out of my ass#I just think it'd be kind of interesting if like. rodya kills someone for a very specific reason (to assert herself as special)#while meursault kills someone for seemingly no good reason#but because of time place circumstance etc#meursault is the one made out to be the outsider to society#while rodya goes unacknowledged and all her motives backfire#like I'm not saying that meursault has Exactly what rodya wants or anything#but I think he Does possess a level of guiltlessness that she was trying to achieve through her self-confidence#also I find it interesting how pride is like. a big thing for both of them#like they both have excessive belief in themselves and their own abilities. in rodya it manifests as self-confidence or I guess. an ego#while in meursault it's more about. a belief in his own interpretation of the world rather than himself as a person? I hope that makes sens#also they both reject collectivist ideas which is. fun#neither of them perform to what a society would expect from them but for rodya it's an active effort to assert her individuality#while meursault just Doesn't Get societal conventions from the get-go unless they're explained to him#I think they also both tend to project a lot 💀 meursault expects his own indifference from others while rodya projects her own#experiences onto others' and makes assumptions based on that before knowing the full details#txt#limbus company#I feel too embarrassed to add more specific tags ngl 💀 💀 💀#lcb meursault#lcb rodion#lcb rodya#nvm. feelings of cringe are for Losers I am Strong
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Am I the only person who doesn’t care about “star boy” from Wish?
He looks like he would be another Jack Frost and would steal screen time away from Asha.
Let's be honest, the moment people found out that the star was going to look like another generic twink white boy, it was already over for Asha
She was already struggling with a lack of personality, and people fawning more over the other generic twink white boy king, but now it's officially over for her
They can easily ignore the fact the human star was supposed to look like her grandfather. All that matters to these people is another tumblr sexyman they can ignore the black girl with
#disney wish#anon#the star shit would be talked about on my dash and youtube#and none of them gives this human star a character#nor does it help asha's character#she's such a blank slate I'm pretty sure people project themselves onto her
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