#archheart

[apricatt-art]

CR downfall art I forgot to post <3

[reduviidaegirl]

“Ages ago the divine touched the real and your living form is the real reaching back, hand in hand, two dancers twirling in the stars forever.”

[wellington-vampire]

I don't think an immortal, especially a god, can ever truly ask something reasonable of a mortal. I truly don't mind if Bell's Hells end up letting everything burn.

I love the lore of the gods but I for one feel like we as players and fans have gotten so deep into Exandrian lore that it's hard to parse what characters know and what we know. In the next campaign I'd love to see an unrecognizable Exandria or a different world all together. A full largely insular campaign on the moon could be fun, I'm honestly a bit tired of saving the world. Or if we do stay in Exandria I'd love to start with high ranking characters who do know a lot of what we know. They'd have to level up pretty slow or commit to a more medium length campaign.

I wonder if they switch to dagger heart if they'd ever stay in Exandria.

[greatfairymagic]

beautiful

[usuallyimnobody]

Regardless of anything else, when the world isn't in crisis etc etc - do the gods just... hang out? Behind the divine gate? Are they all just in a cul-de-sac living out a sitcom and watching mortals?

[oddthesungod]

beauty, divine. ✨

[rann-poisoncage]

2 of 3

[mayapapaya33]

I feel like all of the "Ludinus is Right the Gods are bad" brigade are conveniently forgetting the dude who released Asmodeus and started off the Calamity was a mortal who fucked up big time trying to ascend like the Matron. Vespin Chloras is to blame for the Calamity kicking off. Not the Prime Deities. The Betrayers were sealed away, and he staged a prison break. That's a mortal failing. Not the God's fault.

Sure, their slug fest destroyed giant swathes of the world, but they wouldn't BE fighting if he hadn't done that. The fight was done, they were sealed. The Primes are fighting with the Betrayers over their desire to kill all the mortals. That's their disagreement. "Us" being alive. Everyone saying "oh clearly the Gods just don't care because of X, Y, and Z" are just flat out not paying attention. If they didn't care, everyone would already be dead, and the family would be back together. Why would they be fighting each other if they didn't care?

(Also, Luda is a big hypocrite, when the Gods destroy a city, one that threatened their very existence, they're monsters, but when he does it for much less good reasons imho it's totally fine/ a necessary evil... ok, sure dude).

[quinn-of-aebradore]

Oh I just remembered Umleta’s “one day I’m going to tie you up in my web and never let you go” from Downfall and god the way that aligns with how the Archheart was behaving last night is delicious. Because they’re literally divine foils! The mother and father of all elves and the one who led the drow astray! They’re each others greatest enemy! And yet here they are, expressing their love in the same way: I will not let you leave me. Lolth wants to tie her family up in her web so they’re together forever. Corellon wants to leave and force their family to come with them. Two sides of the same coin.

[pawthorn]

Fire rains down.

The Wildmother and the Archheart dance through its hungry, destructive brilliance, unscathed.

[ittybittyremy]

With all the talk about the Archheart's plan, here are 2 reminders:

1. Disagreeing with a character's points doesn't automatically make their points stupid.

Ask yourself this: Do you think their points are stupid or do you just disagree with them? (yes, there is a difference)

You can't just say "oh x is being stupid" and leave it at that. At least put the effort into explaining why you think that.

And take a second to consider why that character is thinking/acting like that. It can be due to their experiences, their identity, character alignment (i.e. Dorian being chaotic neutral & Orym being neutral good), or character stats (i.e. Ashton's 6 charisma).

Think about what they know and don't know (i.e. Dorian has only been back for ~5 days, he doesn't have all the information that BH has).

Calling someone's points stupid implies that there was no thought put into them. And I think all of BH put thought into their points

2. Just because a character is biased, doesn't mean their views are any less valid.

Newsflash, there is no such thing as an unbiased perspective. Who you are and what you experience impacts how you perceive things. You can either be directly biased or indirectly biased

A perfect example of being directly biased would be Orym towards the Ruby Vanguard. He is biased because their attack caused the death of his father and husband. Another example would be Dorian towards the gods. He is biased because the Spider Queen killed his brother while the Wildmother and Matron refused to help.

Indirectly biased would be more identity-based. Laudna has not had any direct communication with the Matron (until now) BUT her opinions on the RQ may have ties to her identity and experiences as a hollow one. Another example would be how Ashton's views on Liliana has ties to their experiences with cults

My biggest pet peeve is when they use the fact that the character is biased as a gotcha. When Orym verbally acknowledged that he's biased (c3e92), I saw an uproar of people saying that Orym is "too biased" to have the conversation or that he is not in his right mind. Or worse, that he "shouldn't be in this conversation." I heavily disagree with all of that. If anything, acknowledging that you are biased will make me listen to your points more.

You can't be unbiased. The closest thing you can be is less biased than others. An example of this would be Dorian during swordgate. He was not there to see Orym, Fearne, Laudna, or Chetney die to Ishta. Also, he had only been back for two days and didn't know everything as deeply as the rest of BH did. He was less biased (and more detached from the situation) than the others. However, as I said in this post, there was some bias there. The main ones being (a) him being closer to Orym than Laudna and most importantly (b) his experiences with cursed/evil items.

[soath]

counting up the numbers: the raven queen won't flee. asmodeus won't flee. the wildmother probably won't flee. the lawbearer (whose entire thought process was "we can't leave halfway, we don't get to walk away from this once we start it") probably won't flee. assuming you need at least halfsies for the archheart's Tempt Predathos Away plan (and that's generous) the current score is 4/21 likely staying vs 1/21 likely leaving. archheart, my liege, the math is not holding up your whimsical desire to flip the table and blow this popsicle stand.

[shellem15]

This episode has made it very clear to me that the Archheart has NO idea what they're doing. Indecisive queen. They're gonna change their mind about the releasing predathos and running away plan, I'm calling it now. This entire plan is based on vibes and hubris it's not gonna last under pressure. Like, even if theyre right and none of them die, their siblings are gonna be SO mad at them it'll probably cause another schism. 10/10 foresight truly a god of wizards.

[vvitchllng]

If I found out my sibling planned to sell out our whole family to our eternal enemy because they were a little bit suicidal and bored with eternity, I’d tear them to pieces. Like find a new hobby don’t hit the fucking nuclear meltdown button jfc

[somewhatsentientspellbook]

Wild theory time

A celestial being of the Prime Deities has supposedly 'betrayed' the pantheon (we don't know the full story and I don't trust a single word out of Asmodeus' mouth) and is leaking info to Aeor

Perhaps, MAYBE, it's Xalicas? She was once the right-hand of Corellon and sometime in the Calamity was injured so badly that not even the gods could (or perhaps would) help her

Her wiki entry states that she blames herself for events that occured during the Calamity and has spent her existence since then trying to fix the damages that were caused

[space-qu33n]

"....I just start turning gold."

-The Archheart upon everyone complimenting them