#aphobes suck
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amab and afab, if they were used as shorthand for the actual full phrases that they signify, with emphasis on the "assigned" part, and an understanding that they are enforcements of normative (ie, dyadic and cisgender and binary) sex, would be like. really useful. but people took the terms and started using them as shorthand FOR normative sex instead of the ENFORCEMENT OF normative sex. so when other trans people (almost always dyadic trans people) ask for your agab they are almost always asking for your Original Genital Situation. your starting point, so to say. and the reason FOR asking is also almost always bc they are trying to also enforce a certain kind of normativity within queer spaces (which is stupid bc being queer is inherently non-normative but here we are). like, you cant be a lesbian if you're ftm, bc you ARE m, so if you ARE a lesbian, then that means you're lying about some aspect of your identity. does that make sense?
it is always always always incredibly.... i do not trust dyadic trans people that use cagab terms, even moreso than i do not trust dyadic trans people that just use agab terms. agab is also coopted intersex language, but the "coercive" part of cagab SPECIFICALLY refers to medical "intervention" of intersex characteristics, such as "corrective" surgeries and hrt. i am deeply fucking suspicious of any dyadic trans person that uses those terms exactly the same as described above, even moreso if they do so bc "all gender is coercive".
like. yeah. that's true. but you use these terms to erase and overtake intersex discussions on the medical abuse of intersex infants. and i cant help but wonder why you would feel the need to do that.
#iirc it was also common to tirf ideology and the baeddel group#< notoriously intersexist group#to say nothing of any other tirf beliefs#both of these misuses of agab and cagab come from the same source#but it is . deeply disconcerting with cagab#bc its like. that is such a lesser known term in the greater dyadic trans community#you would HAVE to have known what it originally meant#either YOU are misusing it INTENTIONALLY#or someone TAUGHT you to misuse it INTENTIONALLY#people that are cruel and bigoted always want to believe theyre good people#so its hard to convince them when they are being bigoted#esp as marginalized people#and especially as a marginalized people that is particularly affected by the same enforcement of normative sex#the more i learned about this the more i learned abt intersexism in trans spaces#the more i notice it. its so fucking pervasive#and like u should care abt intersexism on its own but its like#no surprise that the ppl misusing cagab terms usually are transandrophobic (as the discourse du jour) and exorsexist#these things go together and reinforce each other#anyways it sucks bc ill see a BEAUTIFULLY written analysis of transmisogyny but so often there will be#like one thing. two things maybe.#and ill go to ops blog search a few keywords and lo and behold#they are transphobic. they are intersexist. they are racist. they are aphobic.#all forms of exclusionist politic in the queer community just lead into each other ad infinitum#nauseating... and#i will read the theory of people who disgust me or who are fundamentally wrong abt other ppls experiences bc i think they still have#valuable things to say but i am SO FUCKING TIRED of running into the same goddamn problem EVERY fucking time#i think its just the posts that get circulated the most that are like that#bc i think the majority of people dont actively seek out and learn abt new queer theory as it rolls in#or other ppls experiences in general#so they dont learnt to recognize the red flags or even realize why its bad in the first place
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unrealted but what does endo mean? /genq
Short hand for endogenic! Which usually means anyone who is plural for non trauma reasons! or who doesn't relate their plurality to trauma. if you don't know what plural means, there are a lot of definitions! I'd recommend googling around or talking to plural people, because i dont have good words today. plurality is often associated with DID, but that's not the only source or cause :) another common one is MADD (maladaptive daydreaming disorder) or immersive daydreaming!
take this with a grain of salt, though - people will often change their personal definitions of what it means to be plural or endo to exclude others. perhaps because of their own internalized ableism, or exerting control over their online spaces is the only control they readily get, or because picking on a subculture of a subculture means that their targets often won't be defended and they can get away with using them as stress toys. Similarly to queer infighting, and aphobia. Thumbs up emoji
#not emojis#it is often debated by people with DID in particular whether or not endos even exist#and i think. whether or not they do. anti-endos are pretty mean about it! their posts on it remind me of transmeds or aphobes.#i'd rather support people who later change their IDs or are wrong about themselves then people who bully them#been told both sides suck. i dont go into discourse. wouldnt know. but there are loud and mean people everywhere.#and the fact that people call it 'sides' when it's experiences... telling...#i prolly wont answer questions like this in the future#because i usually get hate mail afterwards! which is stressful or annoying depending on my mental state#i was not open about being plural for a long time because if you do it the “wrong way” or have unfinished or clumsy opinions#or ways of wording them... people wanna hurt you over it.#but anyone can ask me anything. <3 and i want to help.#so. risking it today. feeling brave/stupid i guess!
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the op of that lgbt and opinion on beer post you reblogged is being Aphobic in their replies letting you know :(
oh fuck i didn’t know! i’m ace myself so fuck them, will delete my reblog now. thanks for letting me know!
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god this stupid fucking intracommunity infighting bullshit never ends and im so god damn tired. stop it. and if youre fucking discoursing this stupid shit you should have to add a fucking disclaimer to your fucking posts at least im tired of having to search yalls blogs when smth slightly off about your wording that i cant explain has me like hmmmmm and then i end up right and i really dont want to be
#toy txt post#INNOCUOUSLY WORDED POSTS THAT YOU AT FIRST AGREE WITH AND THEN YOU SEE THE PATTERN#WITH YOUR HORRIBLE BRAIN OH SO PRIMED FOR THESE STUPID FUCKING DISCOURSE HINTS FROM THE FUCKING YEARS OF#UNAVOIDABLE ACECOURSE. ARE YOU ACTUALLY CALLING OUT TRANSMISOGYNY OR DO YOU BELIEVE#THAT TRANSMASCS DISCUSSING TRANSANDROPHOBIA AND CREATING THEIR OWN TERM TO DESCRIBE IT IS 'TRANSMISOGYNY' AND#YOU CONSIDER DISCUSSING THE EXISTENCE OF TRANSANDROPHOBIA TO BE TRANSMISOGYNY? BC THAT IS A DIFFERENT THING.#YOU ARE MISUSING THE WORDS TO ENTRENCH YOUR STUPID FUCKING DISCOURSE#YOU ARE EXACTLY LIKE ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS IN 2016 WHO MADE INNOCUOUS POSTS COMPLAINING ABOUT HOMOPHOBIA AND CISHETS#THAT AT FIRST YOU READ LIKE YEAH HOMOPHOBIA SUCKS AND THEN YOU RECOGNIZE THE URL. OR YOU SEE THE COMMENTS. AND YOU REALIZE#OH WHEN THIS PERSON SAYS HOMPHOBIA. THEY MEAN A-SPECS EXISTING AND COINING TERMINOLOGY FOR OURSELVES. WHEN THEY SAY CISHETS THEY MEAN#A-SPECS. BUT BC OF HOW INNOCUOUSLY WORDED THE POST IS YOU CANT CALL THEM ON IT WITHOUT LOOKING INSANE. ALSO. THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE OF#THIS I SAW. THE PERSON WAS ALSO A FUCKING APHOBE. LMAO. BC OF COURSE THEY WERE. FUCKING OF COURSE#GOD. FUCKING. IM SO TIRED OF THIS. IM TURNING REBLOGS OFF ON THIS POST. I AM NOT GOING TO ENGAGE WITH ANYONE ON THIS TOPIC#to be clear. not every post. not saying every post. but enough times now ive seen posts where like. i already knew context 4the situation#and the person was absolutely just trying to hide behind their marginalized identity. or like the op was innocuous but their mutual#replied showing their true colors in the notes so Now. everytime i see one of these posts im like yeah. that is a fair point#I will agree that when transfem ppl online do anything ppl slightly dont like the response is often disproportionate in a way that is like.#hmm some transmisogyny at play here for sure. however. now i cant fucking trust you ppl making the fucking POSTS. and im so TIRED#conservatives are like making trans genocide like one of their main fucking platform points for 2024 and youre trying to drive more fucking#wedges in the community rn? really???? REALLY?#im so tired im so fucking tired. im turning reblogs off. do not contact me about thos post. check the context of posts ig bc ppl will#just fucking say anything#also god. i forgot about cl0set k3ys being an aphobe lmaooo#even if theyve apologized im just blocking based on that 2017 post alone god that was rancid. why did yoh say that. shut up forever. bye#im about to just start fucking blocking every user i see without bothering so search#like just every user regardless of vibes or content. just going to be me and my mutuals in here and all the posts they reblogged from#everyone i have blocked
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if you ever tell me how funny you think the warm milk post was by the way it gives me a sudden and intense vision into the fundamental differences in our life experiences up to this point. and also makes me really fucking uncomfortable
#not a funny post just so we all know. i know ace people have to do all the work of pointing out how that stuff was like. aphobic.#cause the point was making fun of ace people. and mocking ace people.#and it followed a huge trend of doing that + destroying our community#and people pretending to be ace to make posts to make like? ad hominem attacks on asexuality?#and so it fucking Sucks actually? and i know that it always has to be ace people that go to the trouble of telling you that#but. well. hm!#valentine notes#asexuality
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Convinced my queerphobic brother to be less queerphobic and he has NO IDEA!
Okay, I just had a very genuinely entertaining and somewhat uplifting experience as a half closeted aroace. Now while this was a positive experience for me, general trigger warning for queerphobia.
So, one of my brothers (Sandwich God, not J-Dog), who I love very much, is unfortunately an asshole that I constantly wish was a better person and that I cheer along with every time he's able to overcome one of his bigoted beliefs or unhealthy behaviors. He's AuDHD (not related to being an asshole) and frequently has trouble communicating his emotions and ideas, but therapy has made all of us better about it and so most of the time nowadays, when we have conversations, we're actually able to understand and assimilate the other person's perspective (I am so proud of him for the progress he's made and I also regularly want to deck him for the progress he hasn't made. It's a complicated relationship).
One of the ways he is an asshole is that he is rampantly queerphobic. This is the main reason I am half closeted---I am not ready to sacrifice the good rapport we have because he isn't at an accepting point in his life, and I know that the queerphobia is something he can overcome with time and positive exposure. So I can't be publicly out and proud while we live in the same house if I want to have the kind of productive conversations about queerness with him that I am currently having. It's messed up, but so is queerphobia in any form.
So. He doesn't know that I'm aroace. He is aggressively queerphobic and heteronormative and is going on about how he thinks that everybody has a natural drive to get married and have kids by 30.
I offhandedly comment that I think sex is gross (apothisexual here) and that I never want to do it. And he kind of stares at me. You can see the gears turning in his brain as he tries to assimilate this information. He decides it must be something about how our mother (victim of sexual abuse) raised me that makes me like that. I shut that down very quickly by just telling him "Do you know how many sex talks my mom has had with me and how much LESS grossed out by sex that made me?" Which is true by the way! I didn't understand why anyone would want to do it before those talks, especially with all the associated risks. Now I am 100% confident that I don't want to, but the idea that other people want to and do have sex doesn't gross me out at all, just so long as they're not spewing details in front of me.
And he just stares at me in confusion. And he says "Maybe your brain is just broken." I say, "I am confident that it is a me thing and not a thing about how I was raised. I don't ever want to have sex and if I'm still single at 65, I will.be perfectly happy." I go into a few more details to assure him of this: I've never had so much as a fictional crush. I got to have the fun experience of having teenage girl only sleepovers and listening to every other girl rave about the hot boys they want to kiss and just tell them "That's great! I'm so happy for you! Me? No, I don't want to kiss any boys. Or girls. Or anyone."
Now, I am being incredibly entertained by his expressions this whole time. You can tell that his brain is having a war with his misguided belief of "queer people don't actually exist, they're all just deluded" and his factual understanding of what I'm saying. He trusts me, I have no reason to lie, and this absolutely matches up with what he's observed from my behavior.
And finally, he goes. "Huh. I still think you're broken or something, but if you're fine with it, I guess that's okay."
FELLAS! Do ya'll understand that something magical just happened here?! Before this conversation, my brother was one of those queerphobes that saw it as his job to personally inform every queer he sees that they're wrong and need to stop. And in this one conversation, I triggered a paradigm shift from THAT to "I may think they're wrong, but I guess they're happy and they're not hurting anyone, so I should probably leave it alone."
DO YOU GUYS REALIZE WHAT A VICTORY THIS IS? I may not have used the words asexual or aromantic. I may not have made him realize that diversity in how humans experience love is normal and good actually. But I helped him make a big step from actively hurting people to passively bigoted. And being passively bigoted is still bad, don't get me wrong. But it's still so much better than where he was before this talk. I can only hope that a) it sticks and b) I can keep having conversations with him like this where he's able to internally break down those destructive behaviors.
Today was a victory for me personally and for every queer person he'll meet in the future. He's still an asshole. But he is now less of an asshole than he was before, and that's important.
#aroace#aromantic#i should maybe specify that he doesn't know aromanticism and asexuality are a thing#he just thinks i'm weird#this story doesn't have a happy ending#but it has a hopeful ending#and that matters#asexual#queerphobia#babbles with brothers#brothers#siblings#family#overcoming queerphobia#sort of#people can change#assholes can get better#i love my brother#he sucks#but I love him anyway#queerphobic family#aphobia#aphobic family#brother things#sibling things#closeted#lgbtqia#giraffe's ramblings#love your enemies#it works
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Asexual/Aromantic headcanons: Good, I love them, keep going
Asexual/Aromantic headcanons based specifically on characters lacking genitalia or even being nonbinary: I am blowing you up with my mind
#high key feels aphobic to me#our sexuality is not based on our genitals#again ace headcanons are fine#im ace#but hcs based solely on the basis of a characters sex or even gender suck
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Look, i get it. You're SAD your Aro. You're SAD your Ace. you HATE not feeling romantic/sexual attraction. you WISH you were allo. Life isn't how Amatonormativity said it would be. I GET IT. But at some point u gotta stop wallowing in self pity and misery and reach the acceptance stage of grief. I promise you that you will feel better once you stop feeling bad for yourself and start realizing you aren't broken for being aspec. literally you have the option to not live your life feeling miserable over something you can't change. You will find other things to make you happy. you will find that you don't have to "miss out" on anything. You can find happiness. You just gotta learn to let go of your misery. You deserve to find happiness, even if it's not in the way you original thought you would.
#text#aro#ace#aromantic#asexual#aroace#also it's just good to let go of the internalized aphobia because every aphobic thing u say is seen and heard by other aspecs#dont think ur self deprecating posts are only effecting you.#but literally the amount of ppl i see who just wallow in their own misery instead of like...even trying to find happiness elsewere is wild#i promise u that u dontt have to feel this way all the time#'i can never be in a romantic relationship' who says that? you literally can if u want to no one is stopping u except for urself there bud#yeah it's not exactly as amatonormativity described it but amatonormativity was BS to begin with sooooo#iidk i just dont get the point of feeling sorry for urselfwhen ur handed something that gives u a new perspective on the world#i just dont think it's healthy for so many ppl to just trap themselves in a grief and not move on from that#like yeah i get it sucks but also u gotta learn to accept and love urself as u are at some point#if only for your own emotional health
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Had allos smugly assume a close silly friendship was romantic: 10,000 dead 900,000 injured, I am exploding them with my mind
#I spent too much time with my close aspec friend group that interacting with a different smaller entirely allo friend group except me was..#it was akin to culture shock truly#bc WDYM?????#death death death like!!! I'm ?? allowed to find my friends funny?? and I'm allowed to enjoy being silly goofy and having that 'yes and'-ed#without that meaning I have ??? romantic feelings??????????#is that the bar???#and tbh. esp from those two. I don't think I want what you think romance is.#one of you is unhappily married to a straight white cis man who sucks#and the other .... idk has bad taste#being gay doesn't make it less aphobic lmao#it was bad enough when it was just my mother bc at least i can be like oh well she's not Queer she doesn't understand blah blah#but from ?? other queer people??????#smh#these two friends are very much like. gay but not queer if that makes sense#I'm just V^V tired
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take em down
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fashionably late as always. pride month is no exception.
#my stuff#fursona#borzoi#identifying as queer because i really cannot be arsed with the nitty gritty of it#something about being ace too but im putting it under my queer label suck it aphobes
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sometimes I'm like hang on maybe i do like sex and other intimate intercourse and kidding and stuff right but then i like try SO HARD to the person i like SO MUCH and feel NOTHING maybe actually a little disgust even is this asexuality or fucking trauma. send help
#sex mention tw#asexual struggle frfr#like istg my fucking MOM says i need therapy for that stuff lmao#i mean i know she's just like#i wouldn't say aphobic but also she kinda is. not very accepting of all that queer stuff#urgh#it just sucks
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i meant less the inability for people to tag their shit correctly and more the constant crush of hyper-emphasis on romantic shipping, normalized and extreme amatonormativity ('there's no platonic explanation for this' 'if you think they aren't in love you're delusional/lying/stupid/etc' 'WHO would do x for a mere FRIEND' etc), harassment of people who don't like certain ships or ships at all, harassment of people who request politely but firmly that people don't make ship based commentary on their fanworks (which i and people i know have repeatedly personally experienced), the expectation that anyone and everyone is in fandom because they enjoy and want to engage in romantic shipping, etc etc etc tbh. it's a constant and inescapable background noise of 'the main/only point of fandom is romantic shipping and if you disagree you're weird/a prude/a mood killer' and even people who are cool about it tend to constantly make 'aren't they so in love' comments about two characters who made eye contact or stood in the same room to whoever happens to be nearby. there is no consideration of whether it is the appropriate time or place for romantic commentary, and the idea of someone having boundaries around that is considered antithetical to the entirety of fandom's existence.
so like, yeah, i've enjoyed cool aspec stuff and qpr representation as well, but the problems that i deal with trying to exist in fandom spaces that prompted me to make this post are so, so much more than just inaccurate tagging (which ALSO drives me nuts, but is just one of Many problems) and aren't ameliorated by the existence of qpr fic (which i love but people make a lot of really weird amatonormative and aphobic commentary about) and 'cool aspec stuff' (see previous).
if you are aromantic and have Tried To Exist In Fandom Spaces you may be entitled to financial compensation-
#gav gab#long post#aro blogging#im really glad you're having a good time in fandom#i often am not#i have learned how to be in fandom don't get me wrong#i like it more than it sucks which is why i'm still here to any degree#otherwise i'd just simply leave entirely#but there are so so many problems i get bombarded with on the daily as a romance repulsed aro#who really values platonic/queerplatonic dynamics and intimacy#and tries to set boundaries around not being demanded to participate in shipping culture#'just pick who you hang out with etc etc' oh i do#i see it from them too though#it's less constant maybe or they're not personally mean to me about it#but love and light FROM MY FRIENDS i also do regularly see amatonormativity and aphobic microaggressions#on a regular basis#usually in the context of mocking the idea that a dynamic could possibly be platonic#(it has to 'at least' be 'a secret third thing' whatever that means)#mocking people who value that#mocking platonic relationships existing on the whole#etc. like. constantly. and it fucking hurts. but i don't usually say anything because nobody likes the buzzkill.#so i just blacklist every single ship name i humanly can and try and move on#every day of my life even people i'm casual friends with#are making regular statements that make it clear#that my presence in fandom is incompatible with their presence in fandom#bc if they were to consider how not to really badly impact me with their jokes and posts and haha comments#about how x thing HAS to be romantic (or at least Not Platonic Ha Ha!!)#they would lose so much of what is fun about this to them#because to a lot of people the fun is not just shipping but insisting you are Completely Right#and anyone who disagrees or has a different experience is wrong/stupid/naive/sometimes homophobic (??)
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Reasons Vox may want to destroy Alastor:
1. He sucks.
2. It’s hot.
3. He rejected Vox’s advances and Vox does not handle rejection well.
4. Alastor supports Coke. Vox supports Pepsi. Enough said.
5. Stupid haircut.
6. He’s jealous of Alastor’s ears. How come he gets ears?!
7. He asked Alastor if he had a tail and was ghosted for seven years.
8. Alastor did $50,000 in TV damages at the Hellmart
9. Alastor apparently has a new #1 rival and HOW DARE HE
10. His stupid triangle ass. Vox HATES triangles. Boxes are IN!
11. He carries a dildo stick around. Vox already has 1 person in his life carrying a dildo stick around sometimes and that’s one too many.
12. When Vox glitches “Val” may sound like “Al”, he wants to get rid of potential confusion.
13. He once called Vox a podcast. Vox HATES podcasts.
14. Alastor didn’t laugh at his joke that one time.
15. He smiles too much for someone who never goes to the dentist.
16. Vox watched Bambi and never emotionally recovered. So the sight of Alastor nearly brings him to tears.
17. He needs to get rid of Alastor so Val/Velvette STOP saying he has a crush on Alastor
18. He needs to get rid of Alastor before anyone else can.
19. Vox is actually just racist.
20. Alastor is red. Red=communist. And as capitalism incarnate Vox hates communists.
21. HE KEEPS STEALING FROM VOX
22. Radio related trauma
23. He goes to the same tailor as Vox. Nobody is allowed to go to the same tailor as Vox.
24. Vox is aphobic
25. Alternatively, Vox is on the a-spec and doesn’t want to share a label with Alastor.
26. It’s the only way he can get pleasure because Valentino is not satisfying him in bed
Oh yeah, also: Power.
#feel free to add on#more tomota references#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel memes#stupid hazbin hotel lists#hazbin hotel vox#hazbin vox#vox#alastor hazbin hotel#alastor#radio demon#radiostatic#staticradio#one sided#at least in my perspective#hazbin hotel crack#vox hazbin hotel#hazbin alastor#valvox
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I keep seeing posts about how damaging ace discourse was to aces and while I’m glad we’re talking about tumblr’s bullying problem I think some of you have selective amnesia bc the war was DEFINITELY being fought from both sides. For every post calling asexuals cringe or lonely turbo virgins there was at least one reply or comment or post saying shit like “ok have fun dying of aids” or “I’m a bi ace which is exactly the same as being bisexual except I’m not a slut” or “ace culture is not having to worry about spreading STDs”.
Nearly every post made by a trans woman discussing transphobia was derailed by someone making it about asexuality instead (unfortunately this is still common on tumblr) and posts about gay sex or attraction were flooded with comments about those nasty dirty allos. Lesbians who expressed frustration about not being able to talk about their sexual attraction to women without aces “fixing” their posts to make them pure and wholesome were characterized as mean dykes and aphobic. And the shit that people posted after the pulse shooting was thinly veiled homophobia— do you know how many posts I saw that were along the lines of “well maybe if you gays were nicer to aces we’d donate blood” or “ace culture is hearing about the pulse shooting and wondering who would want to go dancing at a sweaty club when you could be home reading”.
And idk if people realize this but kink at pride discourse was born from ace discourse. The sheer amount of posts that were like “stop sucking face at pride I’m ace and it grosses me out get a room” or “pride is supposed to be a safe space for aces too nobody cares that you like to get tied up and fucked in the ass” or “as an aroace it makes me uncomfortable to see people wear nothing but leather harnesses stop making pride sexual”.
We absolutely should be calling out the people who posted graphic porn in the ace tag or harassed aces by calling them broken and unloveable bc that’s fucking horrendous and unacceptable but don’t act like every asexual on tumblr was an innocent smol bean posting garlic bread memes and minding their business bc the shit thrown at lgbt people in the name of ace discourse was awful and damaging to see, especially as a teen coming to terms with my sexuality
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ppl who are aphobic are really pathetic lmao
you’re mad that nobody wants to fuck you so you project onto someone who chooses not to fuck?
you’re mad that others aren’t romantically attracted to you so you project onto someone who chooses not to be romantic?
okay suck it up buttercup cuz we really don’t want you either 💃
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