#anyways this is fun to think about

[bayetea]

about frazel & the trouble with raising kids

so frank didn't grow up in a (white) traditional nuclear family environment but it's very normal for chinese families (and many other ethnic groups really) to maintain close proximity to each other and just have multiple generations living under the same roof together so his living with grandma zhang is very normal (also it's incredibly rare for us to know anything about a demigod's grandparent let alone for them to have screentime, the only other real instance is piper's grandpa tom. grandma zhang is such an interesting presence in the franchise). at the same time though emily zhang is presumably not at home super often despite her protectiveness over frank because she's actively serving in the canadian army, so frank's home life is limited to a rather cold relationship with his emotionally distant and kind-of-sort-of verbally abusive grandmother

furthermore frank in son is openly disinterested in his own heritage and doesn't see the value in preserving tradition at all (i.e. his disdain/disgust for his grandma's weird antiques) which is a pretty typical consequence of diaspora + children of color growing up in majority white areas and feeling othered from their peers, thereby repudiating anything that makes them feel "more ethnic" like their family's language or their food and other elements of their culture. but he still appears to come around eventually after grandma's "death" (she may have fled from the fire but she stated explicitly that she didn't have much time left in son, so she's almost definitely dead). he's learning chinese and more appreciative of what he comes from. frank lost every remnant of his heritage in the zhang manor fire and now it's up to him to both preserve the zhang bloodline and create a new legacy in companion with his romanness, his chinese heritage, and his distant greek shapeshifter blood as a legacy of poseidon (frank is inconsistently referred to as a legacy of poseidon/neptune in the books lol but I stick with the greek version because I think it makes the most sense)

meanwhile hazel comes from. well. something very different. she's from 1930s great depression era jim crow new orleans and she grew up poor in a single parent household with an abusive mother. hazel was born with a curse because of marie's "greed" (how dare an impoverished black woman want the literal god of riches to provide for her but yk whatever. it's very greek tragedy-esque) and hazel's ideas about the dangers of wanting more and being selfish aren't really resolved well in the books. hazel being born is the event that kills her mother, she's a kind of prophecy that seals marie's doomed fate. marie knows this and she explicitly blames hazel for everything in her life that went wrong

and hazel is an extremely unselfish person as a result. she sees her mother's bitterness over her fate and doesn't want that for herself. hazel sacrifices over and over and over because she can't ever want things the way her mother did. the only precious thing hazel really allows herself to want and go after is arion but she still freed him out of necessity to escape from the amazons, and she still never has or owns arion for herself because he's a free-roaming horse (and a literal god). many people say that bringing a child into the world is a selfish act within itself and I think that's especially true for demigods in context everything that demigod children go through. when you add on the layer of hazel's birth being the consequence of marie's greed/selfishness I think it's not hard to see why having kids would be especially challenging for someone like her

anyways what I'm saying is that I think frank would want a bigger family and a strong nest, like he would love to have maybe around 4+ kids and begin to reforge everything that he lost (furthermore I mean. of the canon pairings frank and hazel's kids would definitely be the most powerful new gen demigods because both of their parents are so powerful). his dream retirement situation is probably to live in a big house with hazel and their kids and grandkids in new rome and he'd love it if one of his kids also grew up to be a praetor. the romans care so much about legacy-building and cultural preservation and generational prestige but I think hazel wants the opposite of that. I think childbirth is uniquely frightening for her because as said previously hazel's birth is the thing that kills her mother, and who's to say that the selfishness of having such powerful kids won't result in their being cursed, too? and that's not even considering frank's curse--he was nerfed with firewood because he was deemed "too powerful". what about the kids he has with a child of one of the big three gods? AND there's the magic factor to take into account because marie had magic. she isn't a regular mortal. she had louisiana voodoo magic powers in her which was how she summoned pluto in the first place. hazel's potential with magic comes from marie. so frazel's kids would be legacies of mars and pluto and poseidon and be shapeshifters and likely have magic powers of their own. no way their kids aren't gonna be hunted down by monsters like crazy and get wrapped up in like 50 world-ending prophecies

and that's not even getting into the unignorable nuances of being a poc x poc interracial couple and the inevitable complications of raising children that are half asian and half black, not just in the real world but in the context of a roman camp that fought for the confederates lol. they would have to really talk to each other and have that uncomfortable conversation about frank being a father to black children and hazel being a mother to asian children and the ways they need to prepare themselves for that. if you've ever been in an interracial relationship and you want kids then this is a subject that just has to come up or else you're not taking things seriously imo

in contrast with frank hoping for a big family I think that if hazel wants children at all (and I doubt that she really would) she only wants one max and after giving birth I think she would be fighting against the desire to just take her (their) kid and disappear off the face of the planet. like... yeah sure frank comes from an illustrious family but hazel has no glory in her bloodline beyond her own accomplishments. she's an undead girl who only gets to be alive at the end of hoo because her father is ignoring the rules of life and death. and there's a kind of self-centeredness to generational legacy-building that's just so far beyond hazel's personality and life experiences like I really do think she's a "this bloodline ends with me" kind of person and only her love for frank and belief that they really can build a good life together would give her enough confidence and hopefulness to have kids with him

and I haven't even talked about their class differences (the irony of frank growing up wealthy and dating the daughter of the god of riches who grew up poor lol) but where frank might be inclined to spoil his kids with everything they want/not really think about the exorbitance of giving his kid mega expensive gifts because he grew up rich, I think hazel's reservations about the dangers of greediness would be a recurring interference in their parenting methods. like…. this is all so interesting to me and I could go on and on. like don't get me started on frank having a boy and not a girl there's a lot to get into here. anyways hashtag frazel renaissance 2025

[kwadlayns]

talk to me in french, talk to me in spanish 🍒

[fox-mulder-gets-pegged]

I just wanna say bc I KNOW you're somewhere on tumblr, to the teenage girl who attended Take Your Kid To Work Day at an office building in Ontario, Canada circa 2013 and had a conversation with a middle aged woman in which you showed her your Black Veil Brides fanart and fanfics and ship content and told her about different fanfic tropes including a/b/o verse bc she happened to know who Panic! at The Disco and Fallout Boy were and thus you felt the need to show her your bandblr ship art, that was my fucking mother and I had to clarify all that to her including looking my mother in the eye and trying to explain a/b/o verse without sounding like a lunatic.

It's been 10 years and I still regularly sent evil energies in your direction. Since you'd be probably two years younger than me and thus legally an adult now, please know if this post reaches you it's on sight.

[wormspoodle]

teach me your ways potion master

[swiggity-swexual-i-am-asexual]

We all know the semi-canonical ‘all the Robins know to hide/duck inside of Batman’s cape, even as adults’ thing.

We also know that Danny ‘is LITERALLY a ghost’ Fenton sucks at remembering his own intangibility while ALSO forgetting to look ahead of him.

All I’m saying is, Danny Fenton (or Phantom, if you’d really like) would absolutely SLAM into Batman on accident while running on roof tops and Bruce ‘Brooding Instinct’ Wayne doesn’t even think twice about letting the kid hide and scanning around for danger before there’s a record scratch of ‘wait who tf is this?’ kicks in.

[hinamie]

i'm exactly as normal about him as I thought I'd be

[ruporas]

trigunned the hades or hadesed the trigun (id in alt)

[kitamars]

hhhnhhghgjjghgugujgutuutghn piskin……..

[geezmarty]

karlach and the benefits of having a sorcerer gf

[forgettable-au]

FORGETTABLE-AU (page 82-85)

THAT LAZYBONES!!

[BEGINNING] [PREVIOUS] [CONTINUE]

[lucabyte]

monologue

[linkedin-offficial]

me when i get the opportunity to think about speculative biology and non-existent game mechanics in media i like

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[aroaceleovaldez]

Nico referring to his mom as "Mama" implies he most likely at least used to refer to Hades as "Papa" and i 100% headcanon he still does but mostly in the manner of him having the entire Underworld wrapped around his finger for being the baby of the family

[proxycrit]

(I point. Gently, in the voice of somebody who’s mind touched by the outer gods, i whisper truth in your ears:

Your honor the horses are now lesbians

(Anyways here’s the designs)

[soldrawss]

Part 2 finally! Part 3 to come soonish,,,

You can find part 1 here!

[onefey]

kids these days just don't think 27 is as shockingly young as they used to...

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