#any polish ppl PLEASE send help

[fat-fem-and-asian]

dagmara domińczyk and patrick wilson in 2013

 When I first introduced him to my mother, he gave her a bouquet of flowers and said in Polish: "Flowers for you!". Then my mother and I talked about it. I asked her, "He's handsome, isn't he?" and she nodded, "Oh, very handsome." Patrick stood and smiled and understood nothing. [Original interview translated from Polish to English, may be inaccurate]

[palbabor-writes]

dude uh so like dabi but as a father... like he would never but like no one day he gets left with this kid and he's not gonna abandon it bc he cant idk i just want to see dabi as a parental unit trying not to be a bad parent

lol, ppl ask me asks and i respond with a feature freaking film worth of words.  (//▽//) warnings: adult language, angst, mild spoilers for current manga chapters: 290 - 291

words: 3915 

notes: I answered this a little differently. It’s more of a longing for what could have been, rather than a kid of his own sort of thing. But, Dabi does his best damn it. Also, yeah, yeah, it’s another Greek title. I cannot be STOPPED. but i prolly should be. Not beta edited, so all mistakes are mine, and mine alone.

Pónos 

ponos /ˈpoʊˌnɒs/ or ponus /ˈpoʊnəs/ noun  Ancient Greek: Πόνος Pónos  the personification of hardship and toil

There’s a loud clattering noise that’s echoing along the polished floors and walls of the Meta Liberation Army’s base. 

Dabi hates these long hallways. They remind him of some kinda tomb, with all that reverberation and all those gleaming surfaces. They’re perfect for elongating and stretching voices and sounds. 

So whatever the fuck that racket is, it’s not like he’s going to be able to avoid it. He’d need to turn around to do that and he’s not about to fucking turn heel and retrace his steps. Besides, it would take him twice as long to go the other way. Nah, this path is easier, despite the looming annoyance of the commotion.

 He rounds a corner and catches sight of a young woman. 

She’s struggling with something as she reaches into her shoulder bag, and her back twists awkwardly as she leans both forward and sideways. Dabi can’t get a good look at her from here. But, he reasons, he also doesn’t care enough to bother with a second, closer, glance. Nope, all he’s gotta do is slip past her and he can be on his way. 

“Reo-- Reo! Please keep still. I need to get to my phone…” The woman’s voice sounds strained and that odd pattering noise that he’s been hearing since he stepped toward this hallway hasn’t stopped either. If anything, it’s worse. Is it her quirk? Is there somebody behind her? Does she have one of those remote talking devices? Like that the ones that the Doc gave to the League before all this fucking cult bullshit started. What-

Dabi’s thoughts wander to a screeching halt as a boy bumps into his shins. He blinks at the sensation and stutters to a stop, his eyes glinting at the small form. The kid, who looks about four or five, stumbles backwards and cranes his head, looking up at this new discovery he’s run into. 

The boy studies him and, for a brief moment, Dabi worries that his face might spook the kid bad enough to send him into a sobbing and crying fit. Dabi’s not exactly the easiest thing to look at now. But, the kid seems ok with gawping at him, his violet eyes goggled and wondering. 

“Reo-” the boy’s mother repeats, replacing her phone and scanning the hallway for her rogue offspring. “I--Uh, there you are! I’m sorry...Oh, you’re one of those new generals. I’m afraid I don’t remember your name. Ooh, oh my gosh, now that you’re here, would you mind watching him for a moment? I’ve gotta run something back to Skeptic…”

That woman is saying something but Dabi’s too involved in his strange standoff with the boy. Neither he, nor the kid, seem to have the wherewithal to pull their gazes away. No, they both just watch each other, the former maintaining his aloof scowl and the latter is putting on an amazing show of raw fascination. 

“So, just don’t let him get up to too much trouble and I’ll be right back. Won’t be more than a minute.”  

Huh?

Dabi whips his head up, suddenly realizing what’s being asked of him. Like fuck he’s gonna watch this kid. Wait...where did she go?

He twists and turns, his cerulean eyes flashing up and down the sterile hallway, but there’s no sign of her. What the hell? How can someone dematerialize that quickly? He didn’t even say yes, for fucks sake. What a negligent, irresponsible parent she is, to just leave her kid like this with a complete stranger. Pfft, stranger feels a bit weak, honestly. Nah, Dabi’s a walking, talking freakshow. Nothing about him looks safe or dependable. There’s a pull on his dark pants and he automatically shakes his leg against the sensation, agitated. What now? 

Ah.

Junior is blinking up at him, those chubby hands wrinkling the rough fabric between his tiny digits. “Hi,” he beams, his pearly baby teeth straight and gleaming, “I’m Reo!”

“Yeah,” Dabi scoffs, knocking the kid’s hands away. “I heard. Where did your, er, mom go?”

“What’s your name?” Reo prattles, following Dabi as he skulks a little ways down the hallway, his brow furrowed and shoulders tense. Now what is he going to do? He could leave, tell the kid to stay put and go about his business. He doesn’t have time for this, after all.

“Hey!” Reo calls and Dabi turns at the slightly frantic note in the child’s voice, his eyes sharp. 

“Whadda’ want kid? I’m trying to find your mom.” 

“I said my name is Reo-”

“And I said I heard you. Tch, you’re so loud there’s no way half of the building didn’t hear you,” Dabi snaps, looming over the little boy, his mouth pressing into a deep frown. 

“I told you my name, so..so now you gotta tell me yours,” Reo scolds, those violet eyes shining. Dabi can see that the kid’s tiny frustration is rising at the thought of some adult being so rude as to not answer his newly engrained social niceties. 

“Hmph,” Dabi snorts, a low laugh puffing out of his lips. “The name’s Dabi.”

Reo digests that, his nose wrinkling as he mouths the unfamiliar name to himself, like he’s wanting to get it just right when he speaks it aloud. It’s kinda cute, Dabi muses. You know, in a stupid sort of way.

“D- Dadi?” Reo mimics, stumbling over that all important ‘b’ in Dabi’s name.

“What? No. It’s DABI. It’s got a ‘B’ in it. Like, uh, b as in, uh, bear. You know what a bear is, yeah?”

“A bear?” Reo asks, biting his lip at the strange change of topic. “What about a bear?”

“You got my name wrong, kid. It’s Dabi, not DaDi. My name has a ‘b’ not a ‘d.’ Try again,” Dabi groans, sinking to his haunches and praying that this kids mom will rematerialize any goddamn second. 

“Dadi,” Reo mimics, still fumbling. 

“Ugh,” Dabi sucks his teeth and begins to stand again. 

“Hey! Pick me up?” Reo requests, his arms lifting, stocky fingers clenching and unclenching into his palms, opening and closing in a repetition of a familiar demand. 

“Pick you up?” Dabi repeats, incredulous. What the fuck is wrong with today? The only thing that could make this worse is someone seeing this odd performance.

“I’m not gonna pick you up,” Dabi growls, his lips pursing at the kid. “You’re just fine where you are. Besides, don’t kids like you need to practice walking? How old are you anyway?”

“Five,” Reo chirrups, puffing his chest out, like he’s expecting a rainfall of praise to fall on him now that he’s verbally acknowledged that he is indeed, a big boy.

“That’s too bad, kid. If you’re five, you’re definitely old enough to walk under your own power,” Dabi snorts, bemused by Reo’s chipper attitude. Doesn't that get tiring? All that smiling and pacing that he’s doing? Dabi’s never had much experience with little kids, well, other than his own contact with his younger siblings, but they were never this...chatty.

“Awe,” Reo whines, his head falling, little chin bumping as it hits his collarbone dejectedly. Dabi shakes his head at the dramatic reaction. Sulking is better than crying, he reasons, turning his head to look for the boy’s mother again. She said it would only take a minute? The fuck was she?

“Hey, kid. Where were you and your mom before you came here?”

There’s a strange, static-like quiet that follows Dabi’s question. That’s weird. He would have figured that his new query would have broken the boy out in another rash of talkative excitement. So for him to be…

Wait. 

Dabi turns back and his eyes scan the newly barren hallway for the boy. The fuck? Where did he go? His gaze is still whisking frantically when he spots the heel of Reo’s shoe disappearing beyond the next corner. Fucking wonderful.

He paces after the boy, his long legs pulling him quickly along. Again, he wonders why he gives two shits. It’s not his kid, not his responsibility. Yet there’s some nagging pressure that keeps beating at the back of his mind. It’s likely some pieces of a fragmented lesson that had been taught to him long ago. Back when he wasn’t like this. Long before he’d made the decision that sent him on this mindless trajectory, lingering in the obsession of his pent up rage and hurt.  

You’re the eldest. 

Take care of your sister. 

Easy, he’s still a baby. That’s right, hold him like that. You’re such a good brother. 

You’re the one who he can go to when he needs help.

Thank you, Touya. You did so, so well! I’m sorry I had to leave for a bit, but thank you for watching him. 

It’s a big job, and one that you’ll always have, so, can you do it?

You’re their big brother. They look up to you.

Look! She’s happy to see you, Touya!

Dabi snarls at those little flashes of memory, his teeth gritting. No one needs him. Fuck, he’d be more likely to kill them than help them now. Or, at least that’s what he keeps telling himself. Drilling it in, over and over, until he can repeat that vitriol like it’s some kinda twisted prayer. He’s not that boy anymore and he can never, ever go back. He’s made sure of that. 

“Hey! Hey kid! Get back here! You little shit!” 

A loud, male voice is booming up ahead and Dabi jogs the last few steps, his head already uplifted and searching as he rounds the corner. There’s a tall, unfamiliar man in the next hallway and he’s looking away, watching as Reo sprints from him. 

“Fuck, man. Why you gotta yell at him?” Dabi scolds, his cerulean eyes glaring. The man whirls around and Dabi notes the source of his ire. There’s a large stain, bleeding against his crisp white button up and an upturned mug is clutched in a tight fist. Kid must have bumped into him and knocked his coffee out. Well, that fucking sucks, but it’s no reason to freak out at the little guy. He’s five for fuck’s sake. Not like he did it on purpose. 

“He burned me! He ran around that corner and smack into me! Control your kid, you ass! I know you’re one of those hoity toity new generals but you gotta--”

“He’s not my kid,” Dabi snaps, already shoving past the blustering idiot. If he hurries, he can snatch the boy up before he gets too much farther. 

“You sure are running after him like he is!” 

The taunt chases him as Dabi stalks away and it makes him grind his teeth again. Doesn’t matter, doesn’t matter, doesn’t matter, he repeats, all he’s gotta do is get the kid and wait for the mom. Besides, he’s in too deep now. He can’t just abandon him. Fuck, with his luck, he’d run into the mom before he ran into Reo again.

The next hallway leads to one of the many common rooms. 

Dabi, realizing this, begins to jog again, suddenly desperate to catch Reo before he wanders into even more members of this crazy cult. Or worse, he gulps, a member of the League. He’d never live it down if the kid bumped into Compress or Shigaraki. Fuck, fuck, fuck.

As he skids along the next turn, Dabi catches sight of the kid. He’s wavering beside the double doors of the common room and he looks distinctly lost, his dark head turning every few seconds, those violet eyes of his wide. 

“Oi! Reo! Stop running,” Dabi calls, already lowering himself to a kneeling position, his long, mangled arms outstretched. He’s hoping he’s painting some kinda welcoming picture with this gesture and not just creating a terrifying pantomime of comfort.

Reo looks back and he lets out a little squeal of recognition and delight. Excited he is finally going to be picked up. His shoes tap loudly against the tiles as he dashes into Dabi’s oddly warm embrace. 

Once he’s got a good grip on the boy, Dabi rises to his feet, keeping the kid’s body securely against his. At first, Reo protests the tight hold, his back bowing and squirming, but Dabi stills him with a long, hard, stare.

“Don’t do that,” Dabi chastises, wincing against the pull on his marred skin. 

“Oh! Does it hurt?” Reo asks, carefully bringing his swinging feet to a standstill, noting the grimace of pain on Dabi’s scarred face.

“Yeah,” Dabi confirms, shifting Reo to his hip so he can free up his other arm to adjust a pinching staple. “My skin ain’t exactly healthy. Now, let’s get you back to your mom before she finds out that you fuc-- I mean...that you dashed off like that. Give people a heads up next time, huh? Making me run all over the compound after--”

“Oh! Who’s that you’re holding?”

“Gosh, he looks just like you! With that dark hair and those bright eyes of his. Is that your son?”

Fuck. Shit. Fuck.

Dabi tosses a glare over his shoulder, but the two women keep walking toward him, cooing at Reo’s pleased little face. One of them reaches up and ruffles the boy's hair and Dabi instinctively takes a step back, a snarl lifting his lips over his white teeth.

“He’s not my kid,” Dabi corrects, for what feels like the umpteenth time today. It’s only the second, but twice is two times too many. 

These women are being ridiculous. They don’t look that much alike. He’s just got dark hair, that’s all. If they knew what color Dabi’s hair really was they wouldn’t even make that connection. With his true coloring, Reo would be another kid and Dabi would be some fucking freak who’s left holding him. He’s not this kid's anything, least of all his protector. 

It’s not his job to look after this half pint, nor is it his job to care about him. Even if he reminds him of some sliver of what was, what could have been. No, Dabi is just some schmuck who somehow stumbled into this absurdity. It would be easy to unwind those trusting arms and lower this kid back to the ground, he’s not sure why he’s still holding him. He should...he should put him down...He... 

For some reason, that last thought makes his heart squeeze, pressing an irregular beat against his breast. He shakes his head at the sensation, burying whatever bubble of emotion that is trying to rise back down, pressing it deep, smothering and covering until he feels normal again. 

“He’s right! I’m not. Because he’s Dadi!” Reo confirms, simultaneously standing up for his new, haphazard, caretaker and throwing him under an oncoming proverbial bus in the same breath. Goddamn it all.

“That’s so sweet! Your son is beyond adorable!”

“He’s not…” Dabi begins, but bites his tongue. What good is it doing him anyway? These flunkies of the Meta Liberation are just fawning over Reo anyway. He’s honestly stunned they’re still talking to him at all. 

As they’re tickling and petting at the boy, a sudden thought springs into his mind. Actually, this might not be too bad. If he can get one of them to take the kid, he can fucking slink away, his responsibility finished, job done. 

“Oi, one of you can take him. He’s waiting for his mom. She said something about meeting with that Skeptic dic-- guy.”

“You want us to watch your son?” One of the girl’s questions, her head tilting at his demand. “Wouldn’t you rather wait for her yourself? You don’t know us and, well, not that we’d do anything bad...but that feels strange. Besides, you’re doing a great job! Look how happy he is. The two of you are so cute!”

Amazing. 

Apparently, Dabi, despite his hardened and rough persona, one that he has cultivated and built up for years, mind you, could now add, “cute,” to that resume of terror that he is building. 

Sighing, Dabi tries a more direct approach. “You seem to like him a lot, so just keep an eye on him until his mom comes back. It’s not hard. He likes being held, so just, er, hold him.”

Reo, sensing that he’s about to be deposited out of Dabi’s warm grasp, begins to wiggle again, his hands clinging to Dabi’s skin. He’s trying to be gentle, remembering Dabi’s earlier warning, his small digits tapping rather than digging, but he’s still scrabbling against the pull.

The woman clicks her tongue and smiles, tucking some of her long hair behind her ear. “Your son is so precious! He must really love you. Look, Han, isn’t this kid is the sweetest thing you’ve ever seen!” Her friend chuckles and agrees and the cheerful sound makes Dabi seethe. 

“Like I told you, he ain’t my kid. Now knock the wax outta your ears and take him,” Dabi snarls, still pushing Reo outward, hoping beyond hope that this calamity will just fucking end. 

“Dadi,” Reo pouts, his nose wrinkling as he burrows his face into Dabi’s arm, his skin hot against Dabi’s purple flesh.

“If he’s not your kid,” the woman named Han says, propping a fist on her hip, “why does he keep calling you daddy?”

“He’s not calling me that,” Dabi grumbles, his eyes lingering on Reo’s distressed slump. “The kid can’t say my name, which is Dabi. For some fucking reason the “b” is alluding him.”

“Fucking?” Reo questions, his brilliant purple eyes lifting, searching Dabi’s deep blue gaze. When he doesn’t get an answer, he repeats the word, lingering on those harsh syllables a little longer than he needs to. God, Dabi thinks, pulling Reo back to him, trying to muffle the boys bewildered tests of his new word. This is beyond ridiculous.

“Uh-oh,” another, male, voice resounds. Dabi scowls at the newcomer, watching as he steps beside the women, his eyes widened in mock concern. “That your kiddo?” He asks, his brow arching at Dabi’s now openly hostile form. 

“Fuc-- Again? I gotta answer this again?” Dabi snaps, shifting Reo back to his hip, just above his belt. “No. No, he is not mine.”

“Sure about that?” the man quizzes. “He’s sure got your hair and, uh, your vulgarity down.” 

“He’s that woman’s...Look, his mother went to go see that Skeptic bastard. So, you wanna help me out here? Any of you idiots want to do something useful? Hmm? Go into that big meeting room, the one past the common area and get her. I bet that’s where she went. When you see her...tell her, her kid is going wild. Stop...stop looking at me like that or I’ll torch you where you fuc-- where you stand.”

Instead of being cowed by his threat, the Meta Liberation Assholes just laugh, the three of them leaning against each other as they heave with their amusement. And Reo? Well, he’s seemingly amused by all the ruckus, giggling and murmuring little nothings into Dabi’s skin, nuzzling into Dabi’s inhuman warmth. Dabi feels that strange tugging at his heart again and in his anger and distant horror, he spews more rage onto the trash that’s daring to chortle so openly in front of him.

“Goddamn it, I’ll make each of you pay for this you...you stupid--”

“Dabi?”

Can a hole open up under him? That would be absolutely perfect and he’d be so, so grateful. He cranes his neck and catches sight of the last person he wanted to see. Fucking, Twice. His costume is making those white eyes of his comically wide and his hands lift to clap at his face, always dramatic and overblown to the last.

“Who is that sweet little boy? The hell are you doing with that child?!?”

“He’s--”

“It’s his son!” The ‘Han’ woman calls, still clutching her sides, her eyes wet from her mirth.

“No,” Dabi groans, his head dropping lamely. He wants nothing more than to fry each and everyone of these fucking pieces of shit. The desire is so strong he can feel the creeping of heat that’s rising in his palms and tickling up his piercings, scalding his skin against the metal. No, he scolds himself, he can’t do that. Not with Reo in his arms. He’s gotta be careful. He can’t hurt the kid. It’s not his fucking fault he’s been trapped in the care of a monster like him. 

Dabi gasps at his sudden, protective instincts. The fuck? This kid is nothing to him. Nothing. He doesn’t remind him of anyone. No, he’s nothing like his little brothers, all questions and sweet, brief hugs. He’s not...he’s not…

Reo’s hum of agitation breaks Dabi from his swirling emotions. The boy tries to lift his legs away from Dabi’s hips, his arms wrapping around Dabi’s neck, suddenly unsure and starting to whimper. 

“It’s too hot,” he complains, his voice small and soft in Dabi’s ear.

“I know,” Dabi concedes, taking another deep breath, trying to still that rushing rage that is lingering in the back of his mind. “Sorry kid, it should stop in a minute.”

“Ok,” Reo nods, his black hair mingling with Dabi’s spiky tendrils. 

Twice has stepped forward and he’s standing beside Dabi, his head cocked, looking from the shivering boy to Dabi’s haggard expression. “He does look a lot like you,” Twice ponders, his fingers tracing his chin meditatively. There’s something about Twice that Reo is bothered by and his face falls into the hollow of Dabi’s neck and shoulder, straining his body against Dabi, away from the black and red suited man that’s beside Dabi’s elbow.  

“Fuc-- Piss off, Twice,” Dabi growls, his blue eyes narrowing and hardening as he pats comfortingly at Reo’s back, twisting from Twice’s curious stare. “You’re freaking the kid out. Hey! Hey, don’t you assholes have some bootlicking to do?” Dabi snaps, his eyes lifting to the gaggle of MLA members, who are still giggling and whispering across from him. And, just as those words leave his lips, Reo’s mother, finally, finally returns. 

“Oh thank you!” She coos, raising her arms to Reo and peeling him away from Dabi. To Dabi’s shock, Reo still shakes his head, his arms retightening around Dabi’s tense neck.

“Oooh, he’s taken a liking to you I see!” 

“You gotta let me go, kid,” Dabi whispers into Reo’s ear, unlacing his little arms. Reo whines and pouts as Dabi presses him back to his mother, a sigh of relief shuddering from his mismatched lips. Thank fucking God. Now he can have this woman tell all of those shits that he’s not this boy’s father...wait...what the fuck? Oh...oh, now they all leave.

The MLA lackeys are drifting away, walking in a tight bunch as they re-enter the common area, soft grins still lingering on Dabi. And Twice? Twice is snickering openly and making his way down an adjacent hallway, no doubt off to tell Toga what he’s seen.

“Thanks again. Looks like you did a great job,” Reo’s mother repeats, shifting her son to a better position, trying to quiet his frantic scrabbling, his small arms still reaching, struggling for Dabi.

“Dadi!” Reo cries, a few tears falling from his soft face as he’s walked away. In another heartbeat, they’re both gone and all Dabi has left of that strange little kid is the lingering sting and warmth of his embrace on his burned skin.

Notes: Dabi is a grump. Or is he? o(TヘTo)

Tags: @spicy-skull, @xwildskullx, @evesmores

[transsexualhamlet]

tg anime vs manga *sighs*

i have the power of hyperfixation and anime on my side! AAAAAAAA

Ok now that we’ve gotten the sins of re post out of the way we need to discuss this. And I just feel that this needs to be covered because I can’t ever get away from constant discourse on this, mostly fueled by manga readers who feel entitled to always think they’re superior for reading the manga, that the manga is the only real canon, that it’s more complex or better, I’m so fucking tired of it. I am also a manga reader, and I tend to get like that sometimes too with many series (for example no. 6 and the promised neverland.) I get it. It can be really annoying to see something butchered on screen to what the original is, changed or represented differently or given a different message or simplified. But just. Some people like the anime and it’s not a goddamn holy war for y’all to fight. It only makes anime fans not want to read the thing even more yknow cause manga readers are pretentious assholes, and I am aware of this as one of them.

(again ok i’d like to mention i know this fandom is basically dead but a certain p*nterest is always like 4 years behind on fandoms so i keep fucking running into Discourse that’s like, still current, whenever i want old random ass content) (and youtube, why do i look at youtube comments, because I personally enjoy being offended? yeah probably)

And that brings me to the point of this anime vs manga. 

This is a lot harder to compare than a lot of other series, because there are just... so many more differences not just in the style and vibe but the story itself.

Disclaimer, I’ve never watched the anime for :re and i don’t intend to, because I honestly have no earthly clue how tf you can get from the highly diverged tokyo ghoul root A to re and make it make sense, and I don’t really want A ruined for me. So you can call me biased towards the manga in the case of re, i guess (which makes my eventual conclusion even more strong I’d say) Honestly I just see them as two completely different stories, the manga’s version connecting with re and A just like... ending there. So how we’re drawing the lines is basically tokyo ghoul A versus the manga and :re. God, I know this isn’t a fair fight because I already hate re so much, but I feel like the manga’s story is much more intertwined with :re than the anime’s is, so that’s what we’re going with.

oh god also another disclaimer this opinion is coming from the biggest fucking kanehide whore, you can disregard anything i say if you ship The Straights and/or do not care for my boi hide

To be honest, if I can take my own conclusions and liberties to the story, I like both versions, each have their pros and cons and kind of a conflicting message. They can’t really coexist. Usually I’d consume all versions and then create one consistent canon in my head for what I accept as the true events (for example my main owari no seraph, first season of the anime is canon but after that we only follow the manga since those can come together and make sense.) but it’s very hard to do that in tokyo ghoul, since I must confess... I really like root A. Like of course, it’s a lot different from the manga, but tbh I think it’s super valid. (unlike most Fans TM like this Fan TM who i’m sending this post to just to spite their singular Youtube Comment Section Discourse, yes I did write this post for you and many others like you) But the ideas that make up root A conflict a lot with the ones of the manga, so I just have to accept that they’re separate things and treat them as such.

Now to break it down so people can understand where I’m coming from I guess? God this is already so long here’s a read more

The Case for The Manga (including :re manga)

More Lore + Plot Shit: One of the main reasons that manga readers are pretentious little bitches is a valid reason, namely that, as is the case with most manga, there’s simply more to it than people can fit into an anime. (Although people need to understand that’s because,,, it’s simply a different medium, so it will have different pluses and minuses, such as for example a soundtrack, color, moving pictures,,, you know, all that. Anime onlys don’t say that the anime is better by stating these things that a manga won’t have... because they’re fucking obvious. So manga readers should stop acting like an anime is inherently sub-par for being less in depth, but we digress.) I can understand that reading the manga is kind of important for wanting to understand the lore (though there are like so many other reasons ppl might want to watch it other than to get the lore) and without the explanation of how all this came to be and how it works, everything tends to be really mysterious, confusing, and seemingly random. It’s really nice to know what’s all going on, of course, and stuff like the washuus, rize’s backstory, the explanation for like, kaneki in general, all that- if you’re looking for like, plot shit, manga is definitely your go to. But like, sometimes, you like, don’t actually care about those things.

Haise: Of course one of the most important things about well, including re is that I fucking love Haise. Like he is my favorite Kaneki. He’s just so wonderful, look at him in he glasses and he floofy hair and he striped pants and he energy boxers and he s p i c e and he MOM. And I really like how they took Kaneki’s character and developed it more with Haise, you can see his turnaround from innocent--> Emo--> Trying To Be Innocent Again But Failing and I think that’s really sweet tbh. I rejected that at first because I didn’t understand it but once I actually read re I thought it made a lot of sense and was a logical thing to do with his character. (though, uh, moving forward, after his hair changes again i disagree with it, haise 1.0 is a good take and i love him and i want the best for him) I could go on I’ve already written a post of what I think is wrong with :re so if you want to hear my take on kaneki’s 37 pokemon evolutions that’s in there

Good New Characters: And of course there are my favorite bitches such as quinx squad, oh my god, there was a terminal lack of dumbass squad vibes in the original and ishida fucking gave it to us, I love them, I love them with all my heart and I think that if I wasn’t attached to them I’d probably just cancel all of :re but like this is just my personal problem. God I love them. Ishida always pulls through with characters I’m now too attached to.

Vore Lmao:Ok like hear me out. I just get a laugh out of it every time the manga has to remind me of this little fucking fact. Like ok I just. Cannot get over it. It’s so serious about it too and like I realize it’s a serious deal but o h  m y  g o d

Ok and now that we’ve got that little rant over I do want to say that it is like actually really important past the “lmao that’s pretty gay” bit, like??? In some ways it’s more fitting than the anime because well, ishida’s point always seems to be “what would mentally and physically hurt kaneki the most right now” and does it because that’s who this bitch is. But it just?? Kind of makes a bit more sense for the storyline if we’re being picky here, it’s so,,, painfully on point? Like the entire reason he gave in to Being A Ghoul and all was so he could save his friends and shit (i actually do not remember if this was a thing in the manga but like? when he was being tortured and he like imagined hide being really mad at him and getting killed by jason and shit?) LIKE AND THEN HE GOES AND HAS TO BASICALLY BE THE PERPETRATOR OF THAT HIMSELF, FUCK, it’s a lose/lose situation of “don’t do the bad thing and watch your friends suffer” or “do the bad thing and watch your friends suffer but like, later” ishida please

The meaning of Hide being alive: Ok this is just me crying over chapter 75 still but like. Instead of in the anime, where hide’s point seems to be that instead of letting kaneki sacrifice anything more he’d be the one to give his life up and such, and save kaneki, in the anime tbh he just really wanted to be with kaneki right then?? and like ouch but understanding that in the manga he wasn’t just planning on dying and leaving kaneki to deal with it afterward he wanted to go on and continue to try to help the guy no matter the shit he had to go through, no matter if the dude just like forgot that he existed for two years and all- LIKE UH CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW HIDE DOESN’T EVEN EXPECT ANY APOLOGY? like kaneki’s like “OH MY GOD I’M SUCH A TERRIBLE PERSON” and hide’s like lmao nah it’s cool i’m thriving- that his big motto was “live” rather than “peace out motherfuckers it’s been fun”. Cause. Fucking. Ishida. Can’t kill off characters well but like at least he made keeping this one alive justified. 

The D e t a i l s: Ok well I feel like this is something everyone knows but the anime is missing a lot of really,,, crunchy details that the manga throws in there, like, well, kaneki’s fucking,,, bones thing, and other assorted details, g o d like those are missable if you want to never understand half the memes but also like,,, sometimes you just gotta read that shit. It also like, makes more sense when you do but sometimes it’s just stupid things that aren’t important but are fucking hilarious.

The Flavor: In general I’d say the greatest difference between the anime and the manga is the general flavor of the thing, the vibe in the manga is a lot, to be frank, darker and grosser and bloodier than the anime, which is a lot more focused on being pretty and Tragic than “HOLY SHIT WTF” but like. That’s valid. With that comes it being a lot more, real, and although the art may not be as polished as the anime’s, sometimes that’s exactly what you need, and the really gritty sketchy shit that’s in the manga sometimes is exactly what it’s supposed to be for the manga. (in the anime, i’d say that the colored and polished style fits it better, so we’re good there.) It’s a lot more real, in the manga, when the anime hesitates to “go there” a lot (and well, sometimes that’s welcome, but sometimes it’s like y o u  g u y s  c o m e  o n  r e a l l y maybe i DID want to see that did you ever think of that)

So like, to sum it up i’d just like to say it’s more detailed, sharper and darker and is simply So Much. There is just More Content

The Case for Root A

ON THE OTHER HAND, (buckle up fuckers)

Depth of Emotion (that Ishida was too much of a pissbaby for): God like you know what I mean if you read the last post, we spent a whole episode on these gay fucks in root A, with backstory and dreams and drawn out suspense and emotion and GUYS LOOK AT THEM NO REALLY OH MY GOD YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS whereas hide’s limelight in the manga is a whole... two pages, oh whoopee, and that’s mostly due to the fact of ishida putting himself in a spot of “oh fuck goddamn if i drew that in i’d get flagged for gay porn” but that’s his own fault, so he downplays the whole scene and really keeps it in the dark, whereas in this anime it’s understandably a lot less,,, like that, but how it plays out here is simply... really nice and makes you cry and shit, whereas in the manga I’d go “oh god oh damn oh fuck” *laughs my ass off because i really can’t take this seriously*. You get just... more here.

To elaborate on this, in the anime, as a gay fucking bastard, I can get practically an endless amount of content from episode twelve, and endlessly stew over all Those Things about it, every hard hitting line, the expressions, the music making it even sadder, the ways the VAs say the words, the cinematic beauty of the blood dripping on the floor and like how it’s supposed to make you think it’s kaneki’s, GOD I COULD FUCKING GO ON, but if we want to get that in the manga... 

we get three incredibly basic lines, a blackout, and then a “QUICK LET’S MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE ANYONE NOTICES THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT HAHA”

So if we want to have more, we need to write it. (sadly) None of it is ever played out canonically so like,,, all we can do is infer and make shit up. It’s like, I am a writer so like that’s my whole job but I really would rather have more content, and have the content that’s there get to be emotional instead of *blank face* “this is plot that is happening, sadly” but like maybe it’s just bc i’m gay

Really Fucking Beautiful (aesthetically as well as story-wise): This kind of just goes hand in hand with the depth of emotion bit, and I think it can’t really compared to the manga here because I’m gay so I see pretty colors and cry so the anime is understandably appealing for me, but I’m also talking emotionally, yeah. There’s a lot of plotlines and implications of the story that are really well played out, I always love to watch the original because it does a very good job handling a lot of the harder topics and stuff that makes the whole thing worthwhile- like the whole point you’re supposed to see that the ghouls and humans are both just as monstrous when you break it down, that there are good and bad people on both sides, everyone just wants to live and feel good in their own life and perspective, everyone has reasons that justify their behaviour in their mind, sometimes you just can’t win no matter what, all that... they’re all really important messages and make the whole story, and they were handled much more delicately and with more expertise in the anime. 

It’s hard to pin down, but I feel like the manga was just based more on Fight Scenes Characters OoH Fake Science and kind of just gave kaneki infinite power ups after Trying Harder no offense, obviously those things were there and they were still very good in the manga it’s just sometimes they were cheapened a lot by ishida really not keeping track of what he’s trying to say with his story and sacrificing it a lot for “BUT WHAT IF KANEKI’S HAIR AND IDEALS CHANGED AGAIN” instead of making it a whole cohesive work. (and yes, I am VERY aware of your “well aCtuAlLy the hair represents his sanity” thing i know i know and i’m about to rip it to fucking shreds so)

Understandable Character Development And Staying True To It: Which brings me to this point, character development. This was another thing that was just... handled with more expertise in the anime, whoever was in charge of it. Mostly this has to do with Kaneki, since like, no offense but he’s the only one who ever gets much character development other than like, juuzou (asmr you only get character development if your hair color changes) oh and i guess there’s tsukiyama but he’s someone who shouldn’t have gotten character development. Touka gets character development only before re for some reason, and like tbh that’s kind of it. I do think Juuzou’s character development was valid, because well... it made sense? I complained about it before because I was like “well he just turns into spicy L” but i’ve since changed my opinion, he’s best boy. But Kaneki? They went way overboard with him in the manga, and generally? Calm tf down ishida.

Breaking it down, one of the main things that most of the tried and true manga stans seem to hate about the anime the most is Kaneki going over to Aogiri in root A. Since they’re much more acclimated to the manga, they don’t understand why he would do that (quoting a particular ‘probably made sense in the manga!’ yes i know that whole thing was poking fun at the show and i felt it lmao) and they just pin it to “ahaha he has now become Edgy for the fans ehehe time to make fun of him” and TO BE FAIR YOU’D BE COMPLETELY RIGHT. I love to make fun of Kaneki when he does his edgy bitch thing because that’s what he is. A basic edgy bitch who is just,,, such a main character. But like. He does actually have his reasons despite popular opinion and to be honest I think they’re a bit more valid than in the manga, where he’s just like “well I’ve been tortured, that was not pleasant and i kinda did a bad thing, let’s go back to anteiku but i’m just gonna Try Harder To Fight this time”. I can understand that, but like, it seems like in the manga every Character Development of kaneki is some form of “i will now be stronger” except for the singular “I will now be a different person” which, well, we’ll get to that. 

In the anime though, even if it seems like more of a basic edgy bitch move, it’s like?? It makes perfect sense to me, and to be honest more than the manga does? Obviously he doesn’t wanna be best bros with Aogiri, he realizes they’re all bad people who have done really terrible things, but the fact is he now sees himself as the same thing, he now understands their motives because in his mind he is also now Bad TM. His whole character development of being tortured was that peace wasn’t an option no matter how much he wanted it, he couldn’t live being a pacifist and the world was forcing him to give the “i am the only one that understands! we need to stop fighting!” bullshit up because there was no way to achieve it. He realized if he kept himself the way he was more people he loved would be hurt like they already had because he couldn’t, so he doesn’t just Decide To Become Stronger, he gives up his humanity. And that includes basically letting himself defend his own actions and try to do “the right thing”. 

Him then joining aogiri makes sense because well. They’re the people who are the strongest, who have the power, who are the same as he sees himself. He still wants to protect the people he loves, he just also realizes he can’t do it by working with them since he now understands that their more peaceful ways will by definition get them fucking killed. His understanding is flawed, of course. He’s not really right. But this is his understanding and from that it makes perfect sense for him to join up with aogiri and try to still do as much as possible from that standpoint, realizing that most likely the people he’s trying to protect will hate him for it. I think that makes sense to me, what do you not understand about it? (I also understand that may make some people mad because he’d Doing Bad Things but I point to you he’s so soft, remember when he was really nice to naki when he was literally the one who killed the guy naki was crying about? remember when he was doing a raid and he saw that guy hiding and he never mentioned it? remember like the seventy times he Cried TM, yeah he’s problematic obviously but if you want problematic I’ll point you to a certain fucking black reaper. Shironeki has nothing on that asshole.)

I think what Kaneki did in the manga was fine, but in general the anime (again) had more depth of understanding and emotion versus a steady Try Harder Get Stronger shonen deal, which, well, fair, but like, nah. Continuing why I think the anime dealt it better is the ending of A, which was a lot more well rounded then *kaneki gets stabbed and then there’s a lot of random plot shit going on in the background*. Here Kaneki then got to round out the end of his character development by realizing slowly through the second half of this season, him becoming a kakuja and then basically deciding like, not to

((kakuja kaneki was dealt with again different in the anime and manga because he basically stopped trying to use it in the anime bc he realized it was a bad fucking idea but this goes along with the ‘his character development of “i’m gonna do bad things for good reasons” --> “actually no wait that was a bad idea” was actually done in root A instead of being dragged out into :re and it’s appropriate for its own medium and the messages it’s trying to get across so manga loyalists hate it’ but we digress))

So in root A we got to see him actually develop and realize himself through the second half of the season starting with cochlea, his interactions with Amon, and ultimately through Hide, that he’d been doing the wrong thing by becoming more monstrous/fighting harder because what he did was ended up forgetting the most important thing, *smiles in gay* HIDE.(well, his humanity. yeah. i cite the terrible opening for root A with the fun ‘the hands taking off kaneki’s mask are hide’s’ bit.) He then remembered again why he wanted so bad to stop the war between humans and ghouls, he wanted to be able to live in peace and not have to be a monster- something that was not dealt with in the manga (though for understandable reasons of We Need To Fuck With Him In Re More, they then didn’t deliver on creating something like that later so I take this.)

That’s most of the difference between the original manga and anime, but I’d also like to discuss (briefly, I’ve already yelled about them) the ridiculous amount of hurdles ishida went through to fuck with kaneki in the manga, Of course there is the fact that well, the slower transition of his character does make some more sense for the manga because if you take :re into consideration, his eight billion character changes are more tolerable when they haven’t like, already happened before in the manga (just the anime). It makes more sense there for Haise to be tormented by past kaneki telling him He’s Too Weak because in the manga he hasn’t already had that development prior to “dying”, and he lost his memories still believing he had to be strong even if he did bad things, whereas in the anime it doesn’t track because at the end like i just said he kind of gives up his ghoulhood on purpose because he realizes that joining aogiri and fighting and shit was really wrong because, hide. So I can see why those character decisions were not made in the original when planning for :re, but... the fact remains that those previous decisions do not make up for how absolutely weak :re’s game ended up being with kaneki. 

So tldr this entire section, All the manga’s defense of how they handled Kaneki’s development is basically void because all those choices were buildup for development in :re which ishida then COMPLETELY fell down on. So the alternative is better.

And now comes my yelling about how exactly Ishida fucked it up: hair colors and kaneki’s 80 kanekis. If black is supposed to represent sane and white is supposed to represent insane or, whatever, i dunno, who tf thought black reaper kaneki was sane? Who tf would think kaneki in the end isn’t? I haven’t looked into this really, and I’d really love it if someone explained it to me the way ishida was going for bc I do not understand it. Like that tracks with Juuzou, and with Kaneki up to Haise Original, but they don’t really make a cohesive sense seeing as after Haise’s hair color changed again that whole deal kind of goes to shit. Not to mention... I just... they completely failed to make those character changes actually part of the story, I’m mostly complaining about black reaper haise, none of him makes any sense. What’s his deal? He wants to protect who he loves? Tracks with the ghouls but fun fact he abandoned his kids? He actually cared for them? What then, he wants to be the strongest as possible? Sure but then?? Why?? I don’t understand his motives at all.

We also didn’t get to see him get his memories back either, which I was actually very much looking forward to, it just,,, like all of a sudden he’s talking with eto about yoshimura and i’m like bruh when tf did that happen? It’s bad, and although chapter 74-76 is super valid, and his change back into white hair kaneki makes sense, I also have the complaint about how haise basically disappeared just like he was worried he would. I think that was bad and I’ve said that already, it doesn’t make sense, he just literally throws those entire two years away to go back to the way he was before he was with the CCG and just forgets everything he’s wanted for the last few years? Fiction logic test fucking failed, and you’ve also broken my heart. Love Haise. You got rid of him. I love kaneki too but like. Why don’t they just. Like. Merge. He is one whole complex person, not one and an imposter, god. 

This is a big negative for re and the manga, so automatically a positive for root A where I simply Do Not Have To Deal With That Bullshit and the character development actually makes sense. I can understand the decisions in the original manga could have set up for good development in :re, but they completely failed to deliver.

root a didn’t fast forward to re at the end god damn let us process this shit first before you try to connect it to something else: The thing with this point is that it’s really difficult to separate the original manga from the continuing story in :re because the thing intertwines so much and immediately moves us forward with a ton of plot points for the next part of the story before we’re done with this climax and the end of this story. Sometimes that’s ok and I can see doing that from an author’s perspective because you want people to continue reading your story instead of taking that as the end but it’s really annoying on a reader’s end, because I’m picky and I want to be able to just be able to enjoy my original canon without it like, metaphorically touching :re on a plate. It’s something that I don’t even do with my own longer stories, like for example I have like a trilogy of >100k fics that like, well i’m technically not done with them but like. 

People really like the first one because it’s more focused on a more popular ship and basic elements people like about the thing, and then by the second book it moves on to talk more about the plot and lore and brings in more secondary characters. And so I knew that a lot of the readers of the first one wouldn’t want to have to deal with a lot of the “oh well stuff is happening elsewhere that will effect stuff later!!!” random plot shit that none of my readers actually cared about. So I kept it to wrapping up the points of the first book and then leaving the introduction of new characters and plot for the people who actually wanted to read it. Ishida didn’t do that, and of course it’s within his right to like?? Want to promote the next series but I’d have enjoyed it more if we ended it at kaneki’s “death” and wrapping up the deals with the rest of the characters instead of quickly shoving in the beginning of seventy more plotlines before the book ends. Like honey I simply do not have the reading comprehension for that. In the anime we get something that... makes sense.

In the anime, however, it’s quite the opposite, for example the reveals like Eto=owl=takatsuki sen were pushed before that and they saved episode twelve for, well, the end bit. Like what was actually the ending. There were detriments to this I had to say (LIKE GUYS I GET IT HE’S CARRYING HIDE HE’S CARRYING HIM I GET IT YOU’VE BEEN DOING IT FOR HALF THE EPISODE NOW OK I UNDERSTAND CAN WE MOVE ON) But like, I prefer the concept of a simple idea with as much emotion squeezed out of it as possible to a ton of confusing and contradicting ideas that are touched on for a second before moving on. So the *cries for half an hour* ending was much more appealing to me, and I can keep that separate in my head from any of the ideas that :re creates, letting me pretend it doesnt exist and imagine that’s the end and there’s nothing else to worry about. If we want to move forward and hear more, then we can, but it isn’t necessary like it is with the manga.

No Bad Takes that are hard to pry apart from good plot and characters:This is basically the downsides of the new characters, which is well, if I had to make a whole ~keep reading~ post about how problematic everything in re was that does have to count as a downside. I love the new characters, but they also come intertwined with a thousand really bad takes on like, everything, and of course I can ignore it and just act as though they were written in like, to be perfectly honest, a non transphobic way, it’s a real downside when the original anime was pretty pain-free in the way of their takes on their characters. They fucked everyone up in re and I will not elaborate, we’ve talked about this, it’s just the anime, and which i mean season 1 and root A, don’t really have any bad takes I need to try to get rid of, it’s surprisingly something I have little complaint about at all and I ALWAYS have complaints.

Hide!!!!: Obviously, you can tell that a lot of my opinions are going to be hide based because he’s the only thing I ever think about. But we have to take into account just how... hide???? This goes a lot into the depth of emotion bit but it also offers the other side of the argument for Hide’s part in the :re manga, which well. Was mostly chapter 75 if we’re going to be perfectly honest here. He doesn’t get any other limelight. Even in the chapter where Kaneki meets him again he gets a whole what, three pages? In the manga, he has an extremely valid deal about basically, living, keeping going no matter what, and that is a fitting part for the manga, considering the rest of the points there ride more on Keep Fighting instead of Think About Your Emotions And Morals, but honestly chapter 75 was really valid. So why do I still think the anime’s version where he like (ok I don’t know about the re anime we’ve discussed this, i don’t even know how they choose to explain that) he like, dies in kaneki’s arms is better overall? Again, I would have totally accepted that deal if it was made a part of the story because it made me cry, it was super valid, and if they’d continued in that way I would have agreed with it completely over that. But the fact is again that they failed to deliver, and Hide got largely ignored, suffered so much with so little outcome. There was so much buildup and it was incredibly valid, but when the time came for them to meet again and basically show... why it was important that Hide lived in the end? 

They didn’t. They straight up didn’t. Kaneki’s like “oh sorry bro... glad you’re alive and all...” *goes off and fights* and like? Honestly? @everlastingspiral is right, if that’s all they’re gonna do with him what’s the point of keeping him alive? I love every single panel of him and I wouldn’t have read re if he didn’t, but hide gets absolutely NO payoff. For letting kaneki literally vore his entire mouth off, leaving him disfigured and unable to talk, then kind of disappearing for two years and doing seemingly nothing but trying to help kaneki even though he’d forgotten the guy existed, risks his life like a thousand fucking times, eventually gets back to him and the dude’s running a fucking anti-human organization, helps him like Not Be A Volitile Pile Of Flesh Anymore and then what should have been a very important moment of them meeting again gets completely overshadowed by touka and random plot shit and more fights and they barely interact, they don’t even hug or anything, they barely talk, and at the end hide is still there but to be honest he’s gotten absolutely no thanks for all he did and ishida acts at the end as though he’s done very well with hide and gives him a tiny bit at the end throwing in a tragic backstory for fun (which hot take he really didn’t fucking need on top of it all) and... there’s no real hint that Kaneki is better off with Hide there, even though there should be. In 75, in his dream, kaneki is sobbing and crying and all like i’m so lonely without you but when they actually meet each other again? “yo” “hey” “uh sorry about,,, the thing,,, you know” “nah man it’s ok” “let me talk about myself for a bit” “yes you always do do you want to hear what I’ve been up to” “not really” “that’s fine i’m only here to support you”

...So you can understand why I’ve gone a bit sour on that. If that’s all you’re going to give him? Hot take? Let him die. Hide deserves better. (and i will deliver that in writing, but for the purposes of canon.)

In the anime, however (not counting re again... although he still gets the short end of the stick just in the original manga too compared to the anime) he’s properly dealt with! he gets his proper limelight and he gets acknowledged for what he’s done thusfar in the story, which is already so much. Kaneki then realizes that, but it’s already too late (or it isn’t, and they like negotiate with the ccg and then they get to live happily ever after) either way he gets appreciated and he gets hurt, but it’s properly acknowledged. And after all that, after saving kaneki and getting him to the cafe and doing it all while bleeding the fuck out, he gets to spend that time with kaneki and die in kaneki’s arms. And frankly? That’s all I think he’s ever needed. It’s really poetic and pretty and brings kaneki’s character around full circle, and even if it’s overly sappy, cliche, drawn out... he gets the attention he’s due and he gets a fucking break. He wanted to show Kaneki he wanted to do something for him and save him instead of the other way around, but then HE GOT ACKNOWLEDGED FOR THAT, instead of just well, tirelessly working towards it forever and having to be content to be a background character with practically no value to Kaneki anymore.

Keeps The Same Vibe: The big thing about this is that with the manga and with re, shit just goes all over the place, and I feel like I’ve amply showed that already through this essay or whatever this is. Again about the consistency and the professionalism, It’s a concise story that makes more sense than the manga while also being simply neater and more deep, making sure all the points, themes and messages work together and make sense to create a cohesive deal even if it’s not as long. (the manga is like ishida had a TON of good ideas for an essay but then fleshed out the thing ten minutes before deadline and managed to completely lose what his original thesis was even if the thing was 10 pages long.) Basically. yeah. That kind of sums it up, my last point concerns the ending.

Not Cheap Ending: If you want to hear my take about how absolutely terrible re’s ending was, check out my The Many Sins Of Tokyo Ghoul :Re post, and we’ve discussed how the original’s manga ending was bad and well not really an ending, it just leaves you unfulfilled and takes you into “well I guess I have to start a whole nother sequel series ig...” but root A like? Actually ends it? If a reader didn’t know that there was any content after that, they could pretty much infer that hide’s death or almost death whatever you inferred out of that ending (again we’re ignoring re) allowed Kaneki to finish his character development and realize they needed to stop the war, which basically tracks with what’s going on in everyone else’s perspective- eto’s problem with the world because of what happened with everything, is basically like, all of aogiri, juuzou and shinohara, amon and akira and kaneki and they can realize all they have to do is just sit down and fucking stop it because none of them want to be fighting, hide is the catalyst for that because the CCG can see how Kaneki cares for him? And it’s so open ended that you could just like literally believe that and there’d be no way for that canon to tell you otherwise, or you could go onto re and whatever if you wanted to. I think that’s the best thing. 

In conclusion, both have valid points, and in general I’d say that the manga goes better with :re and the anime is better as a stand alone but if I had to choose overall, this particular anime is better (taking into account only seasons 1 and 2), for mostly the reasons of favoring a simpler story taken with much more care and depth versus a more complex story with many, MANY imperfect elements, and I am aware I will get shot on sight for this opinion. So sue me.

[faunusrights]

hey!! sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this-- but you seem to submit fiction writing pieces to magazines a lot and i was interested in doing it too, but i'm not sure how it works. if youre up to answer- do you get paid if you get accepted? do you have to pay to submit? what magazines are good choices to submit to? (thank you i love your stuff lots!!)

HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ilu!!!!!!!!!!!!)

okay so. i must confess that i never went in totally blind ‘cause the magazine i’ve submitted to most is one a friend from my university course founded after we graduated! because at least one of us had to have our life together. so i knew about it well in advance, and also have the benefit, i guess, of knowing OTHER ppl from my uni years (including my lecturer) who run magazines/websites and thus are like wink wink nudge nudge please submit a thing. so These People Know Me And I Know Them and theres that. THAT SAID you can technically get the same effect just chatting to Writing Twitter/Tumblr/w/e because from one writer to another, we love 2 talk abt writing, and ppl, love 2 listen, and if you Network(tm) [ugh i hate that term] enough then you’ll know people who’re making things and know what they want and know how to best write that they wanna publish!

on that note, tho, the ones im submitting to are also free!!!!!! and therefore i am not paid. but i do it mostly because it has a TON of benefits, such as getting used to the publishing process: what are the editing timeframes like? what’s it like to get back edits and return them in a timely manner? can you work with an editor to clarify stuff? can you write to a prompt? can you fit the style of the magazine yr submitting to? also, you get a nice portfolio of polished work to show off, which is neat!

that said, there are. a BILLION MAGAZINES. my GOD. theres magazines for THE MOST NICHE STUFF UNDER THE SUN. i cannot even begin to describe how many exist out there. there are ones that want the MOST particular content, and others that go ‘fuck it, send whatever’. so i can’t really recc any particular ones because what you like writing might be a completely different set of magazines than the ones i might submit to! but there’s sci-fi ones and queer ones and ones entirely about body image and body positivity and ones about travelling and others about FOOD and some about WITCHY STUFF and others about WOMEN’S STUFF and honest to god if you write a niche theres a magazine for it. and if there isnt? you can MAKE a magazine about it.

(that said, if you buy the Artist’s and Writer’s Yearbook, it’s a huge compendium of all the publishing houses, magazines, websites, weird places, niche corners and magical wizard shops that WANT YOUR CONTENT!!! i highly recc picking one up -- there’s a new one every year, but the one i have for 2016 still slaps. also, they have online listings for £25/year, so u can pop in any time and see what catches yr eye.)

anyway. back on track. so yeah, i’ve not been paid for my content, nor have i paid to get published: most magazines ive considered submitting to have NOT asked for a fee, but have offered money in exchange for publication, but that might be in my corner of things? again, magazines can vary. i probably wouldn’t go for one that wants a fee for nothing in return, though, because there’s plenty of other places that will either pay you or let u have 8000 words published for the heck of it (also i feel like. a lot of places that do that. r skeevy. i dont trust like that). in the end, it’s up to you: i know people who submit to magazines that pay them literally every month, some of which work their way into helping edit the dang things, and ppl like me who do it every now and again because its nice to rly flex those Creative Juices and get yr name published somewhere!

so my advice is: go on twitter and find a magazine that appeals to you! find out their submission dates and their guidelines - any magazine worth its salt will make their guidelines ABUNDANTLY clear - and just go for it! even if its not perfect, plenty will happily run over edits to clean it up. i also highly recommend finding some anthologies to join: i’ve been published in those, too! and again, anthologies have subjects and genres in every niche under the Sun. follow the guidelines, draft yr work, send it off, and stick to the prompt! it’s super fun and rewarding, and even if you don’t maybe fit what they want, it’s great to have a body of work you can bounce from. it’s all abt having fun, baybee.

(also sorry this answer is long i have a lot 2 say lmao)

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Witchy wanderer altar (Step by step) #CreativeUpcycling

Yeah that’s for the little pagan sparkle of soul within you <3

I’ve filmed (uploading rightnow) a complete tour of my handmade from Z. Wanderer Altar. Meanwhile i do adapt this step by step which i initially shared with a forum, and i thought it could very well please a larger group because of the upcycling notion.

This complete tour (yes even inside the drawers, you kids ! ) consists in sharing what i did, how i did, for what need, so that if you’re a creative soul too, with a connexion to nature and/or the universe, or “putHereYourOwnBelief” guys, embark the journey of creative upcycling ! Anyways, you can adapt to your path, tools, ressources, and taste, i’m just here to resend sparkles of inspiration & hope for the best :D

So i called it an “altar” but let me clarify why. I’m not a religious person at all, really, i’m definitelly into quantum physics and experiments or theories when i wonder about something, and the universe sends me (litterally) weird experiences opening even mooooore arborescent questions haha ! Do you know that feeling ? like “ Yeah, funny joke, well played Universe... well played ! “

So my perception is really a big equation of connected dots, made out of experiences, brillant ppl’s very “truth” sounding theories (follow your guts, it’s your path), about so many various subjects. I was born with too many questions and that so F. Frustrating feeling to have lost a tremendous knowledge that couldn’t retrieve in a whole life. so i constantly watch docs, read, take notes, connect the dots. #Truthseekingbookworm...

So as i say, i don’t properly need some god/goddesses/deities/archetypes/spirits/anthropomorphisations of actually vibes, frequencies that i can rely on, connect to, at any time, from within me. I created statues i Think it’s both for aesthetism and i’m very attached to the celtic culture, i spent parts of my life as a kid in french britany among the standing stones and feel rooted there for ever. Among natural reasons i feel drawn to : I actually live in a city built on an ancient Meldes tribe site the romanised gauls named “thorianicus”, it’s close to paris by a river that was worshiped by gauls (french celts) and re-named in latin by the romans “dea matrona” meaning “mother goddess”. Modern french name became “La Marne” sadly we lost the real name. But a part of her is probably inspiring me for the nayade hidden in the tree branches ;)

This small universe in a nutshell box came out to be actually my everyday, but on the go #TheEndIsNear ... temple ? tabernacle. I Bet that if i die it will become one, and that shit will be haunted XD

I’ve always spoken “to the universe” since i was a kid, from anywhere, from inside, bc. it is inside of each of us. So basically, no need to have that box but now i feel attached to it ! It's not perfect but made out of scraps so i absolutely wouldn't change for a readymade fancy stuff, i put all my soul into that like any artistic work. So i share too, may some elements inspire you too !

Yes it took me a while but totally worth it. Thanks to:  

1.what I had around. Matters may inspire you a lot. when i see scraps i see a potential, try to search around with that perspective.

2. What Carlos’s shoes polish box inspired me, in this video from Olivia’s channel @thewitchofwonderlust ---> https://youtu.be/E_y6SERJQSs )

3. What you wonderers & wanderers altars inspired to me+ maybe whatever creative guide i channeled, who knows ? :p

4. my own needs, like basic essential oils to cure basic “bobology”, my little tresaures like family link and talismans, crystals, tarots, pendulum, a space for cleaning salt box, cauldron to burn things, herbs, resines... make my own inks for drawings, a space to stock symbols of elements like water and earth, to keep me connected, rooted the old way. + some hooks for samples of herbs so i can let them dry while on a trip ... well you’ll have to adapt yours depending on your needs ! :)

well for my experience, it gave this (not that heavy) cabinet and I absolutely adore it.

5. "Chance"....or, is it ?

Il n'y a pas de hasard, Balthazar !

Its dimensions : while open each box is 30 cm high x 10.5 deep x 19 cm large. Closed it's a 30 x 21 x 20 box.

(video link will be edited here, come back later folks, follow the trail !)

Here I gathered a few pics that I took during the process, for those temeraire people who feel they can take the same path 😅 And welcome to my Atelier!

Basic stuff i used for the basic boxes assemblage (like reused fruit boxes + a rough wood jewellery box fitting in the big boxes -> i reused the metal parts onto the big box, the mirror as a shelf and cases as a crystals drawer. the top part became the front board of two small cardboard drawers inside, you'll see later)

Measures -> cutting a spare thin (and light) wood board to fit around the fruit cagettes

Gluegun is my bestie ! Reinforcing the hinges with a fabric strong ribbon, filling all the holes with glue like a gross job really, but it will be strong :

Sanding angles to have a smoother aspect on the shelves

Being careful to remove some sticking out traps :s

putting nails to reinforce the outer structure + sanding all edges :

Before painting it in a very dark "ardoise" grey, only one layer so it looks odd&old. I may sand it a while in the end to make it look older, i'll see. I don't want it too steampunk. Maybe just a little authentic shabby boho type o'shit. I kind of oscilate btw my gypsy and my goth generation side XD  Goth saves the Cube ! *bats dramatically flying all over*

(i changed the locker since)

You saw that type of rough nails ? i like it.

here i added (left side) 2 dollar store cardboard boxes that fited nicely including the size of the thin layer in btw, to guide the 2 drawers (lucky me) but use whatever you have and adapt, it's the key. If you don't find anything, build it (see my all wooden box on the right) just gluegun and scraps, sanded the excedent and it fits fine.

detail of the in btwn scraps of wood to guide the drawers, gluegun job :

Here i used wood scrap + glued upcycled leather with rivet buttons (old jacket sewed borders and rivets + table”cloth” made of transparent vynile) to close the papers/carnet pocket but keep a possiibility to stuck a visualisation card of mine to help meditation focus possibly. Wood scraps are here to create a depht to the pocket, up and down the square :

Meanwhile, sculpting/modeling my treetrones/shelves/deco/pagan wibbly wobbly

Meanwhile, also doing a cauldron out of remaining clay, (recycling a metalic succulent pot by the way) including binded protective and empowering runes blablahblah

Then i added a typical Horned or green god/cernnunos/male solar yang god principle loved inside the feminine tree & a Triple feminine lunar yin archetype within the male tree

Acrylic painting, dry paint, no water (clay will absorb it). Used an army green and black as an underlayer, then i added old gold touches as a patine and contrasted theblack areas and that's it.

Added a led copper garland to bring the light anywhere with the box and i’m done :)

Here we are, hope you guys liked the tour :)

My next adventure will probably be an apothecary cabinet since i need a space for my essential oils and wax and herbs ...

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56, 60,71 and 81?

aaaa thank you!!! for the questions!!! i’m puttin the answers below the break ‘cause otherwise this is a long obnoxious post.... answering them actually helped me calm down a lot just now?? always down to ramble if y’all have anything else you wanna know!! ^^ 

56: what are some things you find endearing in people?

oh boy here we go this is gonna get out of control but i refuse to delete any of them

crooked teeth + imperfections are lovely!!?

when they get really excited about what they love or a thing they’re into

ppl who laugh at their own jokes or laugh so hard while they’re telling a story that they don’t even finish

when they get real flustered mid-way through their sentence,, bonus points if sweater paws

LAUGHS!!! and people who snort when they laugh are adorable, if you try and make them feel otherwise i’ll throw ya clear outta the solar system

really silly people who will just. dance or yell or be dumb + have fun. no matter who’s watching?? iconic

kindness!! kindness will always be charming

people who still laugh + hug + treat others kindly during real tough times like.. heck.. my heart

learning about their hobbies + skills!!!! is so cool!! like i have some friends who are super good at crocheting, or baking, or art, or poetry or linguistics and it’s such a wonderful thing!!?! to get to know them??! i love people’s charming little hobbies wth

people who tell life stories REALLY DRAMATICALLY even if it’s just like the tale of how in 2nd grade Janette got to be the simon says person instead of them and they’re still haunted by unbridled rage

cute little waves!!! nervous finger guns!! hand hearts!!! YEAH!!!

people who are willing to just GRAB UR HAND AND RUN WITH YOU

did i mention kindness??? i love kind people. being edgy and rude? overplayed. boring. being kind + warm despite this janked up world? that’s what i’m talkin bout baby

i love people’s little quirks or catchphrases or other little signature things... like when they do something and you’re just like YeS IT’s YOU (OR LIKE WHEN IT CATCHES ON IN THE GROUP CAUSE IT’S GREAT AND YOU’RE ALL LIKE “wow we really are becoming ___”)

i’m always charmed by humility too like... do you ever talk to someone who’s just so stellar but is totally playing it down and you just wanna hold them up like that scene in the lion king like LOOK HOW WONDERFUL

60: do you like poetry? what are some of your faves?

I do!! I wish i read more poetry, please send me some if any of you guys are into that!!! um. I love that one emily dickinson poem about hope being a bird,,, i’m pretty sure it’s called “hope is a thing with wings” or something like that! Also, my friend lyd writes incredible poetry and so does meli, i’m in awe? they’re so good? idk if it really counts as poetry but i have this book my great grandmother used to have and it reads like a poem?? it’s called “be all that you are” and it’s. precious. “welcome to midnight” is also good.. i’m just a sucker for self expression y’all

71: what’s your favorite kind of tea?

wow just go ahead and attack me like that i see how it is (jk ily anon)

um!!! i’m on a huge earl grey tea kick right now... like if you buy me a london fog, my soul’s like. bound to you. that’s just how it works, man!! it’s so comforting and cozy i love it

but other good teas: blueberry, mate (thanks ben), coconut oolong, and peach

81: describe one of your friend’s eyes using the most abstract imagery you can think of.

it’s really hard to pick one so i’ll do a couple!! this is a really funny prompt to me idk why anyways i love my friends try n imagine their eyes

1- a cool, sharp breeze, your friend’s backyard pool in august, a polished gemstone from the weird little new age store, a breath of fresh air in february

2-  dusty books in a dim-lit library, overbrewed tea in a big ceramic mug, the shadows cast by candlelight, melty milk chocolate, the... panera bread ambient music??? like... jazz..? but in a good way, i promise

3- dark, icy water after a storm, sky right as dusk fades into cloudless night, a color your grandma probably owns a sweater in

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November 30th, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on November 30th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PST.  The chat focused on Heirs of the Veil by Seaquential Arts.

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RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Heirs of the Veil by Seaquential Arts~! (https://tapas.io/series/Heirs-of-the-Veil) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~!

With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Superjustin of Time and Space

Hi CTP

RebelVampire

hey super~!

Tenor

Hey Super~

Superjustin of Time and Space

Rebel!!

Tenor!!

Phin

Hello! Just gonna listen in here (hi I'm one of the ppl working on this haha).

Superjustin of Time and Space

lol

Tenor

HI NICE TO MEETCHA.

Superjustin of Time and Space

Hi Phin!

snuffysam

welcome!

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

The opening was my favourite scene

I loved how it was explaining the lore and the whooshiness of it

Brillenpinguin

Hi Im the othe rperson working on it we stayed up all day to catch ya guys

Feather, Duke of Hot Leaf Juice

Also I will be in and out of here sorry since I'm busy qwq

Superjustin of Time and Space

lmao

Tenor

Question 1: The entire scene dealing with the Sylph was fabulous. I loved the panels showing how the veil worked with the humans not seeing what the crap swept by. :D And just the effects and chaos.

GAIZ NO LOL

Well it's lovely work, y'all should be proud :D

snuffysam

I liked the most recent couple chapters, because Ernst was in them

Brillenpinguin

TY tenor ^^

Phin

(hhh thank yooou)

Superjustin of Time and Space

YEa, be very proud~

RebelVampire

@phin @Brillenpinguin thank you both for coming~!

@tenor i also enjoyed the chase where the humans couldnt see. i thought visually it really expressed that the humans couldnt see without even needing to say anything

@snuffysam what about ernst do you like? just asking out of curiosity since ernst hasnt had that much screentime

snuffysam

he's just so cute and caring

RebelVampire

i do think that ernst has some really great facial expressions. i especially like the one he has in the very first panel where he appears.

snuffysam

that too. his design is really good in general

Tenor

Fretful baby <3

Brillenpinguin

awh this makes me happy u//u

RebelVampire

for me i think my favorite scene is the opening when victoria arrives in the town. those buildings shots are to die for. in general i really like the detail and care taken with the backgrounds

Tenor

The backgrounds are amazging, also fun. Like spirit-blade baby sneaking through the walls in Ernst's apartment. :D

Superjustin of Time and Space

yeah they're cool~

Brillenpinguin

spirit-blade baby......im dying

Tenor

I'M SORRY HER NAME ESCAPES ME

xD

I'm juggling a lot on this end OTL

Phin

Noo it's all good. It's a cute description haha

Brillenpinguin

XD

her name is Eleven tho

Tenor

Ty~!

RebelVampire

i think we all at least understood who spirit-blade baby was tho at least XD

esktasy

eleven is a cutie

RebelVampire

i do enjoy that detail of her passing into the wall

welcome esktasy!

Brillenpinguin

Hi!

esktasy

hello!

snuffysam

a lot of characters in this comic are cuties i think

esktasy

yes, the character design is great

Tenor

Yess~

esktasy

as one of the guest artists during the chapter break, vicki was my fave to draw

RebelVampire

i think all around the art is top notch in this comic. super polished, nice shading and highlighting.

Phin

I'm thinking of a cool thing to say, except for you're all lovely, thanks

fhrfughh

RebelVampire

np~!

another scene that i enjoyed was the spell cast on icarus cause at that point of reading the comic i wasnt quite expecting it. so it kind of felt more magical

Phin

(it was a scene I really enjoyed working on when it came up)

Superjustin of Time and Space

Hi esktasy~

RebelVampire

and as a cat lover it also assayed my worries cause the moment before that i was like "why is that cat just walking there itll run away omg the poor kitty itll be lost in the city forever. D:"

Brillenpinguin

trust me, sometimes icarus is the more rational party between him and vicky - and that should be telling consdiering hes a cat

RebelVampire

thats good to know although i kind of got that impression. icarus very calm and mature seeming. minus when he decided it was a good idea to disturb spirits. XD

snuffysam

at the end of the day, he is still a cat

RebelVampire

thats why hes still amazing

QUESTION 2. Victoria has come to Port Arbores due to a letter she received from her mother. Now, she is intent on meeting Amaranth Sinclaire, the most powerful person in the town. Why is Victoria so determined to meet this person? Who exactly are they and what do they have to do with Victoria’s mother? Will meeting this person help Victoria find her mother or is something else going on?

snuffysam

It could just be as simple as "go to Port Arbores and find Amaranth Sinclaire" being in the letter

RebelVampire

in what sense do you mean?

snuffysam

she came to Port Arobores due to the letter. my thinking is that she came because of the specific instructions in said letter.

though i don't think vicky is the type to just follow instructions blindly...

RebelVampire

ah yeah the letter does definitely mention sinclaire.

i know some of the blurry text in that letter mentioned someone named owen being killed and that there is some cursed blade and something about vicky's duty because shes the firstborn

snuffysam

the question is, what is that duty?

esktasy

i think it could also be about vicky just getting to know the magical world better, since she seems to be missing some basics

RebelVampire

yeah to be fair there is a question of how much vicky knows/how skilled she is. i mean she didnt know a ghost from a spirit and didnt think to assume it was a spirit when she couldnt banish the sylph

esktasy

ooooh right

RebelVampire

ok i did some more squinty squint reading. i think the top part says that her mom went to retrieve an artifact that was entrusted to the family centuries ago.

Tenor

2: Well, determination being the drastic nature of the letter itself. "Who" Other than the most powerful being but considered mom seems to be missing due to following up on an ancient artifact of (their?) family's that was stolen. If anythng I'm more curious how important Vicky's mother is to not only know Sinclaire - but know them enough to send her kid with a 'letter' and expect any sort of resolvement other than a laugh and hand wave to dismiss. Not sure how it'll help but I am curious where it could go. :D

RebelVampire

watch as vicky is shows up, sinclaire is like "who are you? well heres a welcome to town gift basket."

Phin

Rebel you're a real good squinty reader XD

omg

esktasy

i am very interested about vicky's mother. vicky seems to have spent her childhood with her (she talks a bit about it), but... wondering why vicky has to that thing on her own (with icky of course)

RebelVampire

thank you i think XD i have much determination.

well it could be that the mom went to go deal with artifact stuff, never told vicky anything, messed up, and is like surprise vicky family duty whoops

i am curious how long vicky was with her mom though

and i do wonder why vicky didnt want to talk about her mom that much later with cort and eleven cause she fizzled out telling that story

snuffysam

i do wonder how good their relationship is. vicky's line "what were you thinking, mom", and the fact that despite being the firstborn, she isn't exactly prepared for what she needs to do.

Tenor

She might have left without explaining why other than "business", as she seems to have gotten the letter for not having checked in. A good chance she set it up that way so should nothing happen, her daughter wouldn't have to be at home fretting constantly.

snuffysam

that's true...

RebelVampire

yes that could be. maybe it was sinclaire who sent the letter. was like whoops one witch down i guess well move onto the next.

snuffysam

i think vicky would recognize her mom's handwriting though?

RebelVampire

sent as in just mailed it. the mom def wrote the letter

snuffysam

ah ok

RebelVampire

like the mom was supposed to check in with sinclaire, said here sinclaire if i dont come back. and sinclaire was like

Tenor

Yeah usually when you set letters up like this, unless magic, it's a third party who holds onto it until x date of no contact as per the agreement.

MathTans the Pun Prince

I exist now. o.o

Tenor

:gasp:

...

Phin

Hello Math C:

snuffysam

but if sinclair's supposed to be the one vicky talks to, why doesn't he just go to her?

MathTans the Pun Prince

I also liked the bit with the running past the civilians (bus stop or whatnot?). I didn't necessarily pick up that they couldn't see what was going on, thought it was more a matter of "that old chestnut, why's the girl so freaked out", but the expressions were fun, particularly that last one was like "waitasec".

RebelVampire

welcome math~!

snuffysam

hey math

Tenor

Most powerful person in the city probably has extremely important social roles.

RebelVampire

sinclaire is a powerful potential vampire who has many town vampire things to do(edited)

esktasy

oh, good point on the dead hand's switch (punnnnn)

Tenor

Besides, there's no proof he knew what was in that letter, if it was him.

snuffysam

true true

Tenor

Other than "Deliver to x upon y conditions"

MathTans the Pun Prince

As to why she's come to the city, obviously the mother slipped into a coma but left this cryptic letter saying 'if I ever fall into a coma you need to go and contact these people'. Possibly because Sinclaire is the one who can wake her with a kiss. nods sagely

Tenor

And, well, that's what hired people are for LOL

Or a quick mailbox drop lol

LOL Math omg

Whole story turns into Vicky not liking her maybe new-undead stepdad /shot.

Phin

Math omg

oeihuihithitioht

Brillenpinguin

SHHHH MATH you spoil the plot twiiiist

XD

MathTans the Pun Prince

Possibly mom watched too much "Buffy" as a child.

RebelVampire

it must have been the show vicky and her watched together

all the time

everyday

esktasy

vicky isn't allowed to judge, she already had vampire relations

:J

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, that was an interesting twist. There's layers to this world. I wonder if people who are less savvy hang out with vampires without realizing.

Tenor

Yeah but it's different when it's MOM dating someone new~ eeew /shot

I'm just gunna casually ship Mom + Sinclaire now. No other evidence but this theory.

RebelVampire

i do wonder how much the magical world and humans intermingle. like obviously things like sylphs cant be seen. but are ppl like vicky just talking to humans and going "hello human i am also a normal human and not a witch"

Phin

huruighurihtt

Brillenpinguin

rezfoabv

Im crying

Tenor

:3

Rebel: FFFF-

How to social just got even more complicated.

MathTans the Pun Prince

Gotta get a bus ticket somehow.

Tenor

"Crap am I talking to a Vampire? I can't remember the proper ettiquette- crap how old are they do I bow?? Shake their hand?? Fist bump???"

RebelVampire

omg yes

vicky fist bumping sinclaire

i support this

MathTans the Pun Prince

"Why are you biting me on the neck?" "I thought you were someone else. Nevermind."

Tenor

-CHOKE-

klsajdhLSAKDH

snuffysam

vampire goes in for the high-five when you go in for the fist bump

Phin

I am laughing my butt off help

Superjustin of Time and Space

oh this is still going?

snuffysam

it hasn't even been one hour justin

Tenor

Omg, imagine a Vampire from the bow-era, who has learned ALL the greetings over time from multiple nations

Superjustin of Time and Space

lol

Tenor

and just that slow attempt at each social greeting until they find the right one

MathTans the Pun Prince

I wonder how long lived people are in general.

Like, can magic prolong life? It looks like someone's essence can at least be captured in an object.

Tenor

No idea but I'm assuming the Vampires of this world are undead ageless anti-glitter blood suckers

Phin

(we have a vampire character appear later who refuses to upgrade from an SNES)

Tenor

(My hero)

esktasy

oh no

RebelVampire

QUESTION 3. The world of the comic is heavily invested into magic, from familiars to sylphs to rune magic. Are there any particular aspects of it that caught your eye, whether visually or written wise? What about it caught your eye? Alternatively, what aspects would you like to learn more about in regards to how the world’s magic works? Lastly, are there any theories you have related to the magic (i.e. how the glamour spell hides the supernatural aspects of the whole town, why Icarus disturbed a sylph, etc.)?

Superjustin of Time and Space

ooh snaop

RebelVampire

guess its a good time for that question

Superjustin of Time and Space

never upgrade, keep your old consoles

MathTans the Pun Prince

"As far as I'm concerned, civilization peaked with the invention of sliced bread."

Tenor

Betty White is older than sliced bread. Things have been going uphill since her birth /shot

esktasy

now i wonder if you can cheat at games with magic

snuffysam

we haven't seen magic used for much yet. so just seeing other utilities in general would be nice

esktasy

"i am a technowitch and the best at mariokart"

RebelVampire

all i can picture is old man vampires. being like "i remember in my time. we didnt have none of these cellular devices. when we wanted to talk we just telegraphed with morse code"

MathTans the Pun Prince

Yeah, there's lots of magic flavours. That makes it interesting. It's nice that someone doesn't know the difference between slyphs and things, since I don't either.

Tenor

3: Visually I do like that the effects do seem to have affects based on what they are doing. With the Wisp acting as the "visual guide" we saw the affect in the eyes in particular which I did enjoy. Then slap on the Sylph's elements just barely being visible because air critter. Then Eleven is floating around (which I'm curious how many can actually see her reviewing some of these panels lol)

Superjustin of Time and Space

lol

snes is pretty good tho

snuffysam

that's a good question. can Ernst see her?

MathTans the Pun Prince

I feel like the results of it can't always be controlled. Hence why there was concern over what Vicky was trying to unleash in helping out, why the cat distrubed the sylph to get Vicky "Where she wanted to go" (ie- to a powerful guy, even though she was just thinking hotel), and how the touching of an object (in the start) can have binding effects.

Phin

(it's not much of a spoiler, Ernst can see her)

MathTans the Pun Prince

What about Icarus? ^.^

Interesting name, by the way. I was thinking of the flying too close to the sun thing.

Tenor

(That shower meme but with a wall instead of a shower curtain with Eleven and Ernst /shot)

RebelVampire

oh thats good. so ernst isnt going to one day be like "cort why is there this floating person in the house? also did you eat today?"

thats a good theory math about icarus

Phin

(Tenor, this is actually a frequently made joke amoung us XD)

Tenor

(EEEEY 8D)

Phin

Also Icarus can see her too, but doesn't care that much.

Brillenpinguin

bc cat

RebelVampire

well yeah. its just a floating person. its not like its floating catnip or something cool

Tenor

Reviewing the panels though I'm curious if the mistake of "bothering the sylph" was less because of the magic and more Icarus accidentally knocked the nest out of the tree.

Have you messed with a bird's nest? Those bastards get murderous.

>.>

esktasy

well, cat

MathTans the Pun Prince

Or a cactus.

Tenor

That cactus will make a comeback, you'll see.

MathTans the Pun Prince

(I almost typed cat cuss.)

Tenor

LOL

Phin

iodhguihu

Superjustin of Time and Space

LUL

Brillenpinguin

vmfgn

Phin

Revenge of the Cactus

esktasy

all the dead cacti from the guest pages...(edited)

Phin

(people really liked Icarus knocking down stuff)

Brillenpinguin

i rememebr the days when the cacti all had names....

Tenor

(Well it is a cat LOL)

MathTans the Pun Prince

Tenor - My theory is that Icarus knocked the sylph because the spell made him do something that would get the attention of the person Vicky needed to meet, or send her to him, as it did.

Tenor

Oooh. I just imagined it kinda like taking the path of least resistance, which so happens to be up the wall, crossing this tree- fK NEST GRAVITY FK

RebelVampire

it could be vicky just isnt that skilled for the spell. cause she did exclaim "It actually worked!"

MathTans the Pun Prince

I assume nothing is coincidence!

Tenor

True~

RebelVampire

which means she didnt expect it to work

MathTans the Pun Prince

It didn't get her to a hotel

Tenor

Coulda been a 'strongest in x radius'

RebelVampire

maybe the sylph was an innkeeper for the spirit motel but was on its lunch break and then icarus was a jerk who disturbed them

Phin

sgweuigzeug

Tenor

"I get 1 smoke break every 15 years"

"and you come in MY HOME-"

MathTans the Pun Prince

"I'll just get this sylph outta the nest and then you can sleep here."

Tenor

LOL

Phin

perfect

esktasy

cat thoughts: hotel => food => bird's nest => sylph oh no oh no

Brillenpinguin

okay thats canon now (jk jk im crying this is a great idea)

Tenor

(There are places named the Bird Hotel; and people make bird houses called hotels for birds)

(Sound logic)

(:D)

("Look Vicky, a home and food already here~")

MathTans the Pun Prince

Spirit motel became canon?

Phin

it is canon in my heart

Brillenpinguin

^^^

MathTans the Pun Prince

Hee. So, back to the idea of learning more about magic, I'm curious about how the two different classes differ. And how much power is needed to do stuff, like cloak a cat from cloak a city, because it seems like that'd be an effect that would contantly need to renew itself, versus a one-and-done kind of thing.

Is it timed, and they recast before it runs out? Is there some pool of energy?

Tenor

I'd set bets on charged artifacts. Easier to maintain without needing a consistent living energy source.

RebelVampire

part of me wonders if sinclaire is so powerful because theyre the one who is keeping the glamour up for the town

Tenor

Especially depending how powerful that cloak is, and how large. A small rural city of 100k population isn't going to need as big a radius as, say, NYC or San Fran. >_>

MathTans the Pun Prince

Or maybe because he's the only one not contributing to the glamour.

RebelVampire

sinclaire too good for glamours. wants to revel in first gen vampireness

MathTans the Pun Prince

"Darn magicians. Get off my lawn."

esktasy

i wonder how the vampire thing works in this canon

Tenor

No fairies with a blood fetish version plz

/shot

esktasy

like... how much blood does sinclaire need? can they go out in the light? any fun allergies?

Phin

Fairies w blood fetish XD

esktasy

omg

Phin

there will be actual fairies haha...

Brillenpinguin

yeah we have have fairies too

MathTans the Pun Prince

"Garlic pizza? Dude, seriously?"

esktasy

fairies!!! small and sparkly or bizarre true fae?(edited)

Tenor

Omg that reminds me of a fun historical fact that old mirrors didn't show vampire reflections because they were made of silver - which was a pure metal, thus wouldn't work for an 'undead'. But modern mirrors are aluminum, which means reflections should work for Vampires and just- hhhhhHHHH the fun chaos of that.

Sinclaire clinging to a new aluminum-mirror: DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I WAITED FOR THIS?!

Brillenpinguin

uuuuhhh kinda a mix of both?

esktasy

good. i live for fae bullshit.

Tenor

Ooou Yay :D

Brillenpinguin

but defs more fae than tinkerbell

MathTans the Pun Prince

"That's a two way mirror. They're filming."

Tenor

FFF-

Brillenpinguin

mental iamg eof sinclaire going

Tenor

Also YAY real Fae I'm a fan. :D Curious if any pop up.

Brillenpinguin

"TECHONOLGY."

Tenor

LOL

Yes plz :D

MathTans the Pun Prince

Beware the fae sylphs.

Phin

(Esk, I actually sold a design to Annie. I can show it to you later if you want)

Baby that is Amaranth tho

Brillenpinguin

......

Phin

"TECHNOLOGY"

Brillenpinguin

shhhhh

esktasy

oh, that fae!

Phin

yeah!

esktasy

they were really pretty

i really need to do the thing with the cyclops i got

Phin

(<3)

MathTans the Pun Prince

So, do we want to talk about Eleven magic? Is that a thing?

RebelVampire

im curious by the rune magic cort was using cause that seemed standout from all the other magic presented that far, at least in origin

esktasy

headcanon: fae are the only ones who read the "read before" things of software

oh yes, there seem to be a lot of differences in magic

MathTans the Pun Prince

Oh, right, runes too. I feel like that's the ancient magic.

I could be totally wrong.

esktasy

like... vicky telling cort that he needs practice? isn't cort the magic cop? what's up with that?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Cacti Cort, Magic Cop.

Phin

(the urge to spoil OTL :x)

feihoghuirghihgutiu

RebelVampire

maybe vicky's mom knows rune magic so she recognized that he was using wunjo wrong?

Brillenpinguin

relatable

MathTans the Pun Prince

Oh, that's a thought. Or Vicky's mom was doing some sort of new age offshoot?

Tenor

TeamCactiRepresent /shot

RebelVampire

or maybe vicky was just trying to seem super cool and was like "haha yeah gotta work on my magic like me im so skilled and not a new witch at all O_O;;;;"

Phin

euighurhthoijio

Brillenpinguin

awwhhhjganerugiaeui

MathTans the Pun Prince

"I was a witch in my past life." "Were you." "A vampire witch." "That's... not a thing." "That you know of."

RebelVampire

ah man debunked my own theory. vicky said "ive never seen a human with this kind of rune magic."

but then that begs the question how do you know wunjo didnt work vicky O_O

esktasy

maybe vampire ex???

or... other ex?

RebelVampire

i wonder if well ever meet vampire ex

Brillenpinguin

totally a spoiler ehre vicky is ramona flowers but a witch it canon you guys

MathTans the Pun Prince

I read "ex" wrong. >.<

Brillenpinguin

as what?

Phin

Who...has to fight the 7 evil exes then??

MathTans the Pun Prince

There is no "s" in ex.

RebelVampire

math no XD

and sinclaire obviously has to fight the exes

Brillenpinguin

icarus obvisouyl

LOL

RebelVampire

icarus and sinclaire team up

QUESTION 4. The story opens with a strange tale that is heavily implied to be related to Cortez and Eleven, the ghost blade. Is there a hidden meaning in this tale that relates to the plot at large? Does the tale have something to do with Sinclaire or why Cortez is the Strayer of Port Arbores? What other questions or theories do you have in regards to Cortez?

MathTans the Pun Prince

Icarus levels up. Becomes floofier.

I wonder if Cortez is a descendant of the original.

Tenor

4. Could be they're really the 'most powerful' but the difference is they must retain a neutral stance due to said power?

(hubs home brb)

RebelVampire

assuming cortez isnt the original

MathTans the Pun Prince

Could be. But with the no aging, is he also a vampire?

Wait, no, he's human.

RebelVampire

he could be cursed tho

cursed to walk the endless ages

but then again the story doesnt really tell us when

maybe it happened yesterday

MathTans the Pun Prince

Hopefully he gets free pizza out of the deal.

esktasy

well, eleven isn't a sword but a glaive (?)

MathTans the Pun Prince

Tenor - With great power comes great need to govern those with lesser power.

RebelVampire

glaives also have blades tho.

MathTans the Pun Prince

Glaives are fun. I like the character design for Eleven, by the way. Not some young, busty djinn or the like.

Also, sense of humour.

RebelVampire

yeah eleven has an enjoyable personality. i like that eleven and vicky just gossip together naturally while cort is like what is my life

my running theory about the opening, going off the assumption it is cort and eleven, is that they found blade, eleven touched it and died/got absorbed into the blade (hence why ghost blade), and cort was like "omg this is my fault i will work for all eternity to free you"

or something like that

MathTans the Pun Prince

I like that theory.

Phin

(it's a good theory)

MathTans the Pun Prince

A good question is where did the blade itself come from. Clumsy vampire?

Phin

"Ooops just dropped this really important powerful weapon. Oh nevermind."

Superjustin of Time and Space

lul

esktasy

soul traps lying around in the forest just happens sometimes

RebelVampire

LOL. maybe no one knows O_O its a mystery lost to time

i bet it was icarus

icarus did it

MathTans the Pun Prince

Kitty knocked it out of space-time into our world.

Related, could there be other artifacts out there? Is she called "Eleven" because there are ten other artifacts?

RebelVampire

ah man i never even considered that

MathTans the Pun Prince

And if so, are they all active now, or did they come in sequence through history?

RebelVampire

that letter from vicky's mom talks about a cursed blade. what if its another ghost blade and vicky's mom has become the new victim and thats why she hasnt returned

Tenor

(Delayed but GLaive has many uses depending on French or other European so as a sword could still be accurate /shot but yes it is clearly a glaive :D)

(Also back just REEE at work drama)

RebelVampire

wb~!

Tenor

Ty~

MathTans the Pun Prince

Comes back to my Vicky's mom is in a coma theory. Can still ship it.

"Kiss the polearm."

Tenor

But yeah guilt servitude, I can't imagine Eleven likes that and probably has to try to grab Cort by the face and shake him sometimes lol

RebelVampire

at least cort isnt so servitudal that he doesnt have a life. since hes got ernst and all that jazz.

MathTans the Pun Prince

Now picturing Ernst as a jazz musician.

Phin

fufhurihgru pfft

MathTans the Pun Prince

With a portable keyboard.

RebelVampire

portable so he can show up wherever cort is and bring lunch. then play a nice lunchtime jam

Superjustin of Time and Space

late but welcome back~

Phin

that would be actually adorable

MathTans the Pun Prince

Peanut butter and jam.

RebelVampire

yes i also support ernst showing up making that pun

Phin

Oh my god

MathTans the Pun Prince

Don't spread it with the glaive.

RebelVampire

i think thatd be a bit too difficult XD spreading it with the glaive

MathTans the Pun Prince

"You've runed it."

Phin

just slices through the bread Ooops

Superjustin of Time and Space

gg

MathTans the Pun Prince

Well, hopefully the vampires don't have their own artifacts. Could make things awkward.

esktasy

(this chat was really nice, but i'll go to bed now! have fun you all!)

Superjustin of Time and Space

Night!

Phin

Good Night, Esk C:

RebelVampire

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