#antisemitism m

[mtsodie]

Nazi's? Wait last time I checked (admittedly a long time ago) the accusations towards vivziepop were more along the lines of like... Having a questionable age gap in one comic and generally handling sensitive issues poorly but nothing that extreme, can I ask what they did?

da post <- antisemitism and nazi shit ( note i have absolutely no clue who the person reblogging this is ... the og blog is completely gone . so )

tldr . drew art of a bottle of (??? no fuckin idea what it is . cant read the text ) dressed up like hitler . from a user named "i-hate-jewce" on a sausage party sideblog . also she was friends with that same blog and shipped her cannibal candy cane oc with a pastry oc based off josef mengele

i think thats grounds enough 2 call her a nazi

[genderkoolaid]

insane takes from transphobes #72636363: trans jewish converts only convert because trannies are sooooo insecure and narcissistic and desperate for identity, not because of any positive qualities in judaism that might attract trans people looking for affirming spirituality. clearly this has nothing to do with tumblr being a website popular amongst both trans people and jews. also apparently trans people never convert to islam or bahai or buddhism or christianity, because that's definitely an unbiased observation and not just because this transphobe does not talk to trans people enough to experience spiritual diversity amongst trans people

(also, Islam has the Shahadah, & it's entire purpose is a (generally public) affirmation of identity, but uhhhh ignore that I guess)

[the-garbanzo-annex-jr]

by Tamar Sternthal

In another stroke of ludicrousness, Palestinian-American Rima Rafidi-Kern is quoted without challenge: “We’re the original Christians.” That’s a bald-faced lie. The original Christians were converted Jews. Jesus himself was a Jew, an inconvenient reality of ancient Jewish indigeneity belying the “settler-colonialist” canard.

GOSHAY, A reporter of local Midwestern affairs, loses her way in Mideast coverage, flailing even with basic nomenclature. “Palestine – also known as Israel,” she confounds the no-longer existent Palestine Mandate with Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip.

She bungles the 1947 United Nations plan as “partitioning the territory between the new State of Israel, the kingdom of Jordan and Egypt, and the exclusively Palestinian Gaza Strip.” In fact, the Partition Plan had nothing to do with Jordan or Egypt. As the UN explained: “The plan envisages the division of Palestine into three parts: a Jewish state, an Arab State, and the city of Jerusalem, to be placed under an international trusteeship system.”

The proposed Arab state included not only the Gaza Strip but also the West Bank and a huge chunk of what is now central and even southern Israel (including the city of Beersheba), along with a significant patch of land in the north, encompassing Acre and Nahariya.

But in a colossal misjudgment that sealed their people’s unfortunate fate for generations, the Palestinian Arab leadership rejected the seminal Partition Plan and the surrounding Arab countries attacked the nascent Jewish state. Arab leadership in Haifa, Jerusalem, Tiberias, and other locations encouraged residents to flee, resulting in the Palestinian refugee crisis.

Goshay neglects to mention these key historical events, choosing not to intrude on her interviewees’ uninterrupted soliloquy of singular Israeli culpability for Palestinian displacement.

Moreover, Goshay piles on in her own voice: “Palestinians argue that Israel’s Zionist government has trampled on” Balfour Declaration concerns for protection of Palestinian-owned land and religious rights. “They point to the more than 700,000 Palestinians who were displaced in 1948, with many ending up in refugee camps.”

The journalist’s exoneration of Palestinians for any responsibility reaches the reductio ad absurdum in her depiction of Hamas as thwarted peace activists forced into violence by Israel. Rami Hamdan said, “Hamas began with peaceful demonstrations,” intones the credulous reporter about an organization whose antisemitic founding charter calls “to fight the Jews and kill them.”

“The Palestinian people tried the Martin Luther King way, the way of no violence; they tried it,” Goshay quotes Hamdan of Canton. Apparently, the untold early MLK chapter of Palestinian history has mysteriously been erased from all historical memory and archives, wrongly replaced instead with a bloody trail of hijackings, bombings, and terror at the Olympics.

In this alternate reality, “Benjamin Netanyahu encouraged Hamas to begin because he did not want the PLO.” So talented was the young Netanyahu that he apparently pulled off this feat from New York where he served as ambassador to the United Nations during the time of the Hamas terror organization’s founding.

Goshay’s grasp of present-day reality is equally tenuous. Apparently unaware that more than 90% of West Bank Palestinians live under their own Palestinian Authority government, Goshay broadcasts her ignorance: “Palestinians cannot purchase property in the West Bank. Palestinian vehicles are required to display special license plates, and drivers are restricted to certain roads.”

[queenwille]

well good day to you too 💋

[noyatv]

Do these idiots not realize Hams is taking the aid for gaza?

probably not

[meshugenist]

Arise, you legions of the damned, Arise, you filthy starving slaves, Exploding reason is at hand, ‘Tis the final end of days. History will reach the zero hour As the wretched masses rise! The world will be debased and scoured As the losers claim their prize! Armageddon calls Let the order be replaced! The Unternationale Will win the human race! There is no heavenly salvation, No god nor man upon a throne, To put an end to deprivation, We must toil as one alone! There will be no punishment eternal For the greedy parasite, Unless we build our own inferno To extract what's ours by right! The state will strangle you and cheat you, The taxes bleed you til you're white, The rich will famish you and eat you While they speak of human rights. Nevermore will we let them bite us With their gnashing vicious jaws, We'll kill the animals who blight us With our unternatural claws! Armageddon calls Let the order be replaced! The Unternationale Will win the human race! The great grotesquery of cowards, The lords of industry and oil, Have nothing there behind their power But the might of stolen toil! It is buried deep in their foundations, All the capital we've made. The time has come for reparations, Let us start the last crusade! With poison they intoxicate us, With war they murder us at large, With hatred they indoctrinate us, Let us now return the charge! If these cannibals insist on shooting, Let us bravely aim and fire. But the ones we should be executing Are the ruling class vampires! The melting pot has come to boil, The bottom rises to the top, And those who do not till the soil Will be denied to reap the crop! How long the vultures have devoured, Our human flesh and blood. Their carrion will come to power In the revolution's flood! Armageddon calls Let the order be replaced! The Unternationale Will win the human race!

[spottheantisemitism]

House of M is a Rothschild cospiracy

There has long been hysteria that a small cabal of Jews control the world. The very world 'cabal' is dripping with antisemitic hate towards the kabbalah because gentiles are forbidden to study it and fear what they don’t understand. So when a powerful Jewish banking clan who rose to prominence and even royalty, had involvement with politics, the conspiracies spread about the family like wildfire conspiracies that he was promoting degeneracy and race mixing permeated or funding world wars and even conspiracies that the family single handedly caused the holocaust to create the state of Israel. The fact that this family is still a noble house that still operates and whose recent memory inherited the Barony in 2024 drives people up the wall. The very idea of Zionist or Jewish Occupied Government is derived from the older Rothschild Conspiracy.

When Chris Claremont inverted the morality of Magneto from eugenicist who wants to rule world with Mutants on top and him ruling humans and mutants alike with an iron fist to a traumatized holocaust survivor who believes that him ruling the world is the only way to prevent another holocaust, there was some uncomfortable growing pains as the two backstories created some rather unsavory implication, often by design.

In "God Loves, Man Kills", Scott Summers asks Magneto what will happen to Magneto’s dictator after Magneto dies. Magneto says he hopes someone like Scott would take up the mantle.

"House of M" answers this question differently. It implies that the Magnus dictatorship should be a monarchy. A Jewish-Romani family of extremely long lived individuals that rule the entire world. Which sounds uncomfortably like a Rothschilds family conspiracy.

Considering Claremont himself wrote House of M!Magneto's backstory, where did it all go wrong? Was it the execution or the premise itself?

Here’s Magnus’ mother who hid in a pile of corpses (I carefully edited them out but they’re there in the original) to avoid the death march handing off her child to some Russians came to liberate the camp

Hello unsubtle Moses allegory! Claremont wrote this bit in the crossover bible (basically the world's lore) so it’s likely intentional. Claremont specified Magnus was born in Auswitz and his mother hid him from everyone. From the fact that Dr. Doom calls Magneto a fellow Rom (using the g-slur of course), we can assume Magnus’ father is Roma (perhaps even Sinti) which adds a new layer of horror to “my husband is already dead”.

skipping over the Pogrom in Vinnitsya that radicalizes Magnus to the actual canon divergence (Magda is just some random Romani woman he marries rather than a fellow holocaust survivor here but everything else is the same)

Suzanna Dane is now a hot blonde resistance fighter whom Magnus forcibly sends away to safety so she can be a single mom and give their kid a normal childhood. No indefinitely on either part here, yay!

When Magneto does start to take on a more revolutionary bent, Charles finds him reasonable and so do his three children who don’t know they’re his kids. Lorna is likely dying her hair as her powers and her green hair showed up the same time canonically. Wanda and Pietro are rightfully shown as not living in the kind of household that has a television. Good so far!

When they take over Genosha it’s already portrayed in a negative or mixed light. As not only is exiling each human on the island portrayed as a bad thing, Pietro shows contempt for other Mutants repeatedly. Like in the sceenshot in the top right. Charles Xavier setting a man’s mind free, essentially speed running recovery from learned helplessness, is kinda darkly amusing to me even if he does it all the time in canon

Magneto’s real descent into villiany, at least according to the comic, is when he assassinates Greydon Creed a person people see as equivalent to Hitler or at least a modern Neo-Nazi. The comic cleverly never has us feel sympathy for Creed but instead make understand the repercussions of killing him would be that it would start a war between Genosha and America. And since that would after all their respective allies, this act would essentially start World War three. It also cleverly subverts the whole “magneto became no better the nazis he fought” canard with “twisting semantics will not magically stop genocide” I line that goes so hard that I am ashamed to admit my trump card in arguments about holocaust inversion came from X-men Au comic rife with antisemitic tropes. So what’s the problem? This seems like nuance and good writing so far, doesn't it? Patience, friend!

On the surface this is a good moral “violence may get you what you want, but the cost is too high for you to pay”. That's President Nixon Magneto is humiliating in that panel, by the way. Good stuff. However, it’s an ending is “we aren’t going full circle as we as the superior race are better than that, here look at my favorite token humans” is a bit yikes. This fully implies that Magneto does not expect that kind of decency from humanity and explain the rather brutal methods he employs in quelling dissent further down the line. Magneto is no longer concerned with being with being a good ruler but to appear as one. He’s so consumed by grief over the loss of all his various lovers (Charles dies on page and Suzanna dies of cancer off page) and allies that he’s essentially letting his children and the various puppet governments run things. So while he’s more Napoleon than the absolute dictator his enemies paint him as.

Magneto lets Apocalypse run Egypt. Apocalypse is tyrant who enslaves humans and kills mutants for being too weak. This man has been attempting to take over Africa. By the way Apocalypse is the reason Marc Spector is radicalized into terrorism and becomes a much darker, edgier, and later much more repentant Moon Knight. This series is about the cycle of violence.

Yet when Ororo and T’Challa kill Apocalypse, something that’s politically advantageous to Magneto as he can now scapegoat humans on the death of Apocalypse to Apocalypse's fanatical supporters while also getting rid of his least favorite ally. This frankly makes no sense. Him calling Ororo ungrateful for not thinking his decolonization of Africa is enough is actually a clever showcase of one character weakness's, but him being angry that an easily scapegoat-able human killed a man he was already planning to assassinate means these writers don’t understand geopolitics.

Humans in America all live in what are basically ghettos and Luke Cages “this is fine” reaction spells out that this is very NOT much fine. The entire plot of House of M: Avengers is how it’s getting worse and worse for humans between 1970 when the revolution happened and present day which seems to be the late 1990s by the presence of bulky computer monitors and the absence of cell phones (this comic came out in the 2000s by the way). Do you think that cop was told he had to be a cop because he had an eye in the back of his head? Personally since the theme of this particular comic is “society made us what we are but we can still choose to be better”, I think so.

humans in Genosha live as second class citizens as we see when Ben Grimm escapes from literal slavery to Dr. Doom, as Doom and Magneto fight, and joins the slums of Hammer Bay with the other human resistance. Alicia Masters, their blind leader, is the first person to treat Ben as a human being since his transformation.

It's likely Humans on Genosha were finally allowed because they're used for cheap labor.Similar to how mutant slavery on Genosha started in the first place place. Again the full circle allegations are creeping up on the reader.

Look at this "golem and the girl that likes him" imagery! Man every Jew besides Kitty has unthinkably horrific things happen to them in this crossover. Kitty, born after the revolution, has a happy fulfilling life as a grade school teacher.

As fun and accurate as a dictator giving the overzealous cop he himself assigned to terrorize the human ghetto unpaid leave and a transfer to a different district not for his literal attempted pogrom but for calling his daughter a slur, notice the “I can’t be SEEN condoning purges”. It’s not “I think pogroms are bad” but “I think pogroms are useless violence and bad for my reputation”. This comic unlike the prequel comic DOES imply he’s gone full circle. Also Thunderbird, a Native American character wanting to “wipe a neighbor off the map” and “burn it to ash” is really giving white supremacist “decolonization is when the natives kill you and pillage your city” rhetoric.

So Magneto is now a tyrannical dictator who cares more for his image than actual justice, Wanda is slowly withdrawing from the world and losing her mind from having to maintain and tweak this reality for 30 years, Pietro is planning a coup against his father, and Lorna still acting like a teenager even as a 40 something. These are the corrupt mad Jewish Romani family that rule the world. Always portrayed as both weak and strong at once. This comic veers between its social commentary and white supremacist rhetoric because of the conspiracies baked into its premise and I don’t think it walks that tightrope well.

So was the premise unusable or the execution?

I think it's the execution. Consider the prequel comic that doesn't falter until the last moment and the Avengers comic that almost holds up and you realize it's problem not of "unworkable premise" but "these writers aren't qualified to explore these things"

[floaty-pickle]

Ok so i wasnt gonna weigh in on this anymore, but i just had a tiktok with a couple thousand likes come up on my fyp where the person filming somehow spun the whole watcher debacle onto sara? Sara??? Whos not even a part of watcher? Like they were deadass talking about how shes probably behind all this and their proof? Apparently they have always gotten the ~ick~ from sara. Thats it. Literally what the absolute fuck. Like are we doing this whole shit again? Blaming and hating the wives/girlfriends of the people we stan for their mistakes bc we dont want to accept that theyre not perfect? Yes, Sara posted something on insta during that whole situation but it literally was not that bad. This is embarrassing, do better.

[genderkoolaid]

I am very wary of labeling people’s energy as “male” or “female.” The infinite and ever-changing ways people express themselves cannot be partitioned into two narrow categories. It’s hazardous to gender the “energy” that people exude. For instance, Ashkenazi Jewish women have faced the anti-Semitic charge that they are guilty of exhibiting “male energy” because of what some non-Jews considered to be aggressive or loud behavior.

— "Living Our True Spirit" by Leslie Feinberg, in Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue

[iidsch]

something something you won't avoid being sent to the death camp just because you coddle your oppressors instead of siding with other oppressed people something something you're not and never will be the exception something something first they came for the communists something something history repeats itself

[extasiswings]

wait, sorry you don’t support the student protests happening across the country?

I’ve never said that and neither did the post I assume led you to send this ask. What I don’t support is students using a foreign conflict with an extremely complex history that they have no connection to as an excuse to cosplay as revolutionaries and attack vulnerable minorities on their own campuses.

I support the cause of Palestinian liberation. I also support the general existence of the state of Israel and a peaceful two-state solution to conflict in the region, recognizing that we don’t live in a fantasy world and a country that has existed for 70+ years cannot simply cease to exist. I do not support violence perpetrated by Hamas or by the Israeli government. I support protests that are based in genuine advocacy and not antisemitism. All of these things are positions that can coexist.

I also used to be a college student. And I was a college student at a school where there was a Students for Justice in Palestine organization with a sizable student membership. And do you want to know the things that organization did on my campus?

They promoted antisemitic speakers, including those who engaged in Holocaust Denial. A main student leader in the org regularly engaged in Holocaust Denial. They “protested” the very existence of Jewish student organizations and events that those organizations put on despite there being zero connection to Israel. When Jewish students made complaints about antisemitism, they were accused of being racist. This list is just a handful of the awful antisemitic behavior that I observed during that period.

Tldr; in my experience, student activism on very liberal college campuses about I/P has very little to do with I/P or the actual cause of Palestinian liberation, and a lot to do with students finding a socially acceptable excuse to be wildly antisemitic while pretending that they’re not. And you’re going to have a really hard time convincing me that the current wave of protests, including the ones at Columbia referenced by that post, during which “protesters” have told Jewish students things like “go back to Europe” and have called on Hamas to murder Jewish students, are anything different.

[sebfreak]

yesterday some so called experts said in tv that they don´t think south africa will be successful because israel can argue with "they have the right to defend themselves".

yeah bro not sure if under defending is listed: torture, rape, killing citizens (kids, mothers, fathers), talking about completely destroying palestine, defame people to animals, taking back every right they have and so on

and the most important things: there is proof for every single thing.

so please be quiet with the : "oh it´s called defending."

it´s not defending anymore

it´s a genocide.

open your eyes.

[thatstormygeek]

I see that antisemitic conspiracy theory connecting Gaza and the LA fires zoom by and it irritates me every time. Obviously it's bad because it's fucking rank bigotry. It's also bad because it's just stupid. I haven't read through it, so I don't know whatever lines are being drawn, but the fact is that Gaza and the LA fires are connected in the most obvious way that climate scientists have been telling us about for years:

the US military industrial complex is a giant fucking polluter and huge contributor to climate change, which is a major driver of these fires. Tada!

But wait, there's more!

It is exhausting to have to explain, again, what links a world of climatic and geopolitical disasters. To have to walk everyone through how stressing the climate leads to wars, which then further exacerbate the climate crisis. Not to covering the basic stuff, like how these unprecedented fires in Los Angeles are a clear result of global warming: combine a worsening drought and the hottest summer in LA’s history with an unusually fierce eruption of hurricane-strength katabatic winds, likely caused by the melting of Arctic ice and the destabilization of the jet stream, and this is a likely result. (Eric Holthaus has the details). And no, I’m not drawing an equivalence between all the examples listed above: there is a difference between the accidental burning of a neighborhood and the intentional eradication of a country. But they’re on a continuum, and they feed one another, just as sure as sparks from one uncontained fire can be sure to spawn several more.

[waspgrave]

Nothing quite cements the ‘oh this hurts but I’m glad I did it’ moment than when someone mass reblogs a ‘how you can fall for antisemitic lies’ post after you tell them that being a Zionist is awful actually and you can’t be their friend any longer. Like yeah no, I think and have ALWAYS thought genocide is bad and it’s frankly super insulting to have a friend sit there like you’re secretly a super villain if you have sympathy and anger for people who are going through it.

[genderkoolaid]

spacelazarwolf is a Zionist you are doing a disservice to your audience by retweeting shit from their fucked up pro-genocide blog

zionism isn't when jews have opinions on israel you disagree with

he has made posts where he outlines in explicit detail exactly why the current violence being done to palestinians fits within the definition of a genocide and that this is bad

retweeting?