#antis snark

[policemanofprincesspark]

This is more ridiculous than Taylor Swift dating a million different men throughout her thirty-four years of life. You're telling me that Harry has had around 15 relationships/flings in his lifetime thus far, and yet this man, who talks about his favorite thing in a relationship being when you've been together so long that you become like a team, who talks about wanting marriage and kids, who sings "you've got my devotion, but, man, I can hate you sometimes," can only make a relationship last about a year before breaking it off?

ROFL.

The longest relationship he's officially had was two years with Olivia Wilde.

You cannot convince me this man can't make a long-term relationship work. It just doesn't make any sense.

[soup-of-the-daisies]

obnoxiously loud marauders fanon is turning me into a snape stan actually and i’m a snape-bullied-harry-for-no-reason truther. what do you mean regulus is the poor badass morally grey meow meow with an horrible family life who got pushed into voldemort’s violent little cult through societal pressure but was secretly a good guy all along? hello? that’s literally severus snape put some respect on our dungeon bat’s name

[sluttypatrickstar]

[skrunksthatwunk]

actually i'm still thinking about the moral orel finale.

he has a cross on his wall. do you know how much i think about that bc it's a lot.

a lot of stories ((auto)biographical or fictional) centering escape from abusive/fundamentalist christianity result in the lead characters leaving behind christianity entirely. and that makes complete sense! people often grow disillusioned with the associated systems and beliefs, and when it was something used to hurt them or something so inseparable from their abuse that they can't engage with it without hurting, it makes total sense that they would disengage entirely. and sometimes they just figure out that they don't really believe in god/a christian god/etc. a healthy deconstruction process can sometimes look like becoming an atheist or converting to another religion. it's all case by case. (note: i'm sure this happens with other religions as well, i'm just most familiar with christian versions of this phenomenon).

but in orel's case, his faith was one of the few things that actually brought him comfort and joy. he loved god, y'know? genuinely. and he felt loved by god and supported by him when he had no one else. and the abuses he faced were in how the people in his life twisted religion to control others, to run away from themselves, to shield them from others, etc. and often, orel's conflicts with how they acted out christianity come as a direct result of his purer understanding of god/jesus/whatever ("aren't we supposed to be like this/do that?" met with an adult's excuse for their own behavior or the fastest way they could think of to get orel to leave them alone (i.e. orel saying i thought we weren't supposed to lie? and clay saying uhhh it doesn't count if you're lying to yourself)). the little guy played catch with god instead of his dad, like.. his faith was real, and his love was real. and i think it's a good choice to have orel maintain something that was so important to him and such a grounding, comforting force in the midst of. All That Stuff Moralton Was Up To/Put Him Through. being all about jesus was not the problem, in orel's case.

and i know i'm mostly assuming that orel ended up in a healthier, less rigid version of christianity, but i feel like that's something that was hinted at a lot through the series, that that's the direction he'd go. when he meditates during the prayer bee and accepts stephanie's different way to communicate, incorporating elements of buddhism into his faith; when he has his I AM A CHURCH breakdown (removing himself from the institution and realizing he can be like,, the center of his own faith? taking a more individualistic approach? but Truly Going Through It at the same time), his acceptance (...sometimes) of those who are different from him and condemned by the adults of moralton (stephanie (lesbian icon stephanie my beloved), christina (who's like. just a slightly different form of fundie protestant from him), dr chosenberg (the jewish doctor from otherton in holy visage)). his track record on this isn't perfect, but it gets better as orel starts maturing and picking up on what an absolute shitfest moralton is. it's all ways of questioning the things he's been taught, and it makes sense that it would lead to a bigger questioning as he puts those pieces together more. anyway i think part of his growth is weeding out all the lost commandments of his upbringing and focusing on what faith means to him, and what he thinks it should mean. how he wants to see the world and how he wants to treat people and what he thinks is okay and right, and looking to religion for guidance in that, not as like. a way to justify hurting those he's afraid or resentful of, as his role models did.

he's coming to his own conclusions rather than obediently, unquestioningly taking in what others say. but he's still listening to pick out the parts that make sense to him. (edit/note: and it's his compassion and his faith that are the primary motivations for this questioning and revisal process, both of individual cases and, eventually, the final boss that is christianity.) it makes perfect sense as the conclusion to his character arc and it fits the overall approach of the show far better. it's good is what i'm saying.

and i think it's important to show that kind of ending, because that's a pretty common and equally valid result of deconstruction. and i think it cements the show's treatment of christianity as something that's often (and maybe even easily) exploited, but not something inherently bad. something that can be very positive, even. guys he even has a dog he's not afraid of loving anymore. he's not afraid of loving anyone more than jesus and i don't think it's because he loves this dog less than bartholomew (though he was probably far more desperate for healthy affection and companionship when he was younger). i think it's because he figures god would want him to love that dog. he's choosing to believe that god would want him to love and to be happy and to be kind. he's not afraid of loving in the wrong way do you know how cool that is he's taking back control he's taking back something he loves from his abusers im so normal

[darkwingsnark]

If I wasn't so busy, I'd probably try to come up with an idea out of spite.

But outside of the initial confusion, I thought it was funny. This all came from the same man that openly talks about his wife's boobs in front of us. I think I would have been well within my right to UNO REVERSE the situation.

[runawaymun]

I know before Rings of Power, Amazon had a young Aragorn series in the works; now I’m wondering if the script was sold to Warner Bros who revised it into films and then asked PJ to come direct but

A) why is it multiple “films”. I am not enthusiastic about the idea of Peter Jackson trying to stretch the hunt for gollum (??????) to MULTIPLE films. If anything this feels like it one of the times something needs to be a limited series or something. Also what even are they gonna do for a real plot?

B) why the fuck is Peter Jackson willing to come back to Warner Bros after how much he hated and regretted working on the Hobbit with them?

C) what the fuck. They really are out of ideas with the rights the Tolkien estate sold to them, huh?

[ayrennaranaaldmeri]

welp since some of those shitty leaks turned out to be true, those rook's rest leaks are going to end up being true and from the very bottom of my heart i wish c*ndal a very never get work adapting anything again i hope by the end of this your reputation is worse than benioff's and weiss's because it's all you deserve.

[torchwood-99]

First Theloise, now Cressida/Eloise (Elossida?) Bridgerton, if you want me to give a flying fuck about Philoise, you need to stop presenting me with so much more promising alternatives.

[ventingtendency]

Saying this on a burner because I absolutely do not want to deal with whatever reactions will come but

THE THING IS!! It is SHOWN in Bobby Begins Again that post-Gerrard, Chimney and Hen do hang out with Tommy AND Sal! They are genuinely upset when Bobby fires Sal! We see that they get drinks with Tommy! They make him a cake and have a party when he leaves!

And! In Chimney Begins we see that Tommy does warm up to Chimney after Chimney saves him

This DOES NOT excuse his behaviour, but it does lend credence to the idea that Tommy is capable of realising when he is wrong and owning up to mistakes, even BIG ONES like the racism and misogyny he participated in

You cannot convince that Hen would willingly go out to drinks with a coworker who remained an asshole to her & her best friend, I fully believe that apologies were said

ALL THAT BEING SAID — Lou severely fucked up in saying all Tommy was doing was teasing in Hen/Chimney Begins. It was not just teasing. He was actively antagonistic and racist and misogynistic. He didn’t step in At All even though he could have. Do we know now that he was deeply closeted and probably scared himself? Yeah. Still doesn’t excuse his behaviour.

I liked Tommy. I liked that in the Begins episodes he grew into a better person. I liked that he sent that air tanker when Chimney called him. I liked that he was willing to do a favor for Hen and Chim to fly a helicopter into a literal hurricane. I liked that he has shared interests with Eddie and that he is there to help Buck figure out a part of himself.

But after the weird ass reception he has had. All the fetishising and rabid obsession and his actor making bank spoiling shit and saying stupid things on his Cameo, I am eagerly awaiting the day that he is no longer on the show

[policemanofprincesspark]

The thought of Louis or Harry being bi is almost revolting to y’all and I can’t even begin to understand.

One thing is that we are having this endless what if H (and Louis) are bi conversation just because they are closeted to the public and so their label - and it´s probably unpopular opinion in the world of "why we need to put tags and labels on everything" but imo they very much labeled their sexuality years ago - is like a huge mystery. Second thing is gf harries and their desperate hope to still have at least that minimal chance with H. Because at least some of his relationships must´ve been true - their faves are CR and TR because they were oh-so-private - and so he can´t be gay. And third thing is that bisexual narrative which spinned with Medicine and people are still arguing if he´s singing "him" (gay) or "them" (bi) in that part about boys and girls. And in the meanwhile during that one interview back in like 2013 H himself said he´s quite sure he isn´t bi.

Idk, I became larrie while my previous mindset was that H´s straight and into women only. I haven´t witnessed him during the 1D era and when he was around Louis. All I´ve learnt about his probable sexuality - that he´s gay - was through larries who are there for +10 years and witnessed it all. So someday I do have a doubt if there isn´t at least that minimal chance of him being into women. But at the same time I came to an opinion that if he´s truly bi, there would be no reason why to not come out - it won´t hurt him because coming out as bi would mean he´s still into women and his relationships were real to the public. A lot of now publicaly out gay men used bisexuality as a stepping stone. Why he´s not going that way? My theory is that he doesn´t want to lie to his community (eventho his community is accusing him from queerbaiting like he´s the biggest queerbaiter ever) and rather wait until he will be able to come out with the label that he truly indentifies with. And that´s not bi.

I'm going to be very real with you. I side-eye any anti who gets at someone's throat about Harry and/or Louis being bi. Unless they're just making innocent "well, you don't know them, and they could be bi" statements, which are fine and I see them all the time. What I mean are the antis who fully believe they are bi and could not possibly be gay, and then they turn around and call us biphobic. Well, yes, some larries do have biphobic views when it comes to Harry and Louis, but it gets to a point sometimes with the more extreme larries and extreme antis where it becomes just a matter of biphobia vs. homophobia.

When you insist someone is gay and cannot possibly be bisexual, that can be biphobic if that assumption isn't made on any basis. And vice versa. When you insist someone is bisexual and cannot possibly be gay, that can be homophobic if that assumption also isn't made on any basis. It's different if an anti points to song lyrics or whatever and is genuinely convinced that Harry for example likes women; that's fine, and it's understandable why they would take that at face value. I guess my issue here is with the antis who get emotional about Harry liking women, as if they need him to like women. That to me reeks of homophobia. You have to remember that we live in a heteronormative society, and, to most people, bisexuality is much more palatable than homosexuality.

[beevean]

Me, an amateur writer with poor english grammar thinking of dialogue for fanfics: hmmm i need to make sure i catch their personalities and particular dynamic here, otherwise it'd seem too generic

Netflixvania, acclaimed show done by professional writers: sassy girlboss and dumb moron man! Sassy girlboss and dumb moron man! And for you hmmm. Oh i know! Sassy girlboss and dumb moron man!

Hahahahaha

the implication that NFCV would care about personalities

they couldn't even be consistent with their own OCs 💀

The thing is that sassy banter is not inherently a bad dynamic. It can be fun, and it can show natural chemistry. Even the games had something similar: Maria gently pokes fun at Alucard for the way he talks (as in, barely), and Julia gives Hector some attitude when she plays coy about her identity. Or, not quite the same still, but Jonathan and Charlotte have this Red Oni, Blue Oni dynamic where Charlotte really wants to be Jonathan's braincell. It can work, it's fine, sometimes friendship and love is joking around each other.

But NFCV fails because it's much more meanspirited about it. And there is an audience for this, of course: for example, look at all the people who are positive N!Trevor and N!Alucard had steamy hot gay hate sex because they see their dynamic as homoerotic, but for me, it doesn't feel earned because they have just met and N!Alucard plays jump rope with the line in a way N!Trevor never matches. N!Sypha calls N!Trevor a deformed pet bear in jest, again without him ever matching her (and I'm not mentioning when she got genuinely angry with him over nothing, like when he made a comment about beer being better than sex and she got so pissed she froze that beer - it's played for laughs but still, it's mean). Greta jokes that N!Alucard is lucky that she's there to run his life for him, when again they don't quite know each other that well and she met N!Alucard when he was a traumatized mess (a trauma she made a nonsensical joke about, although he found it funny so I guess that counted as a bonding moment). And I don't think I need to tell you that Lenore is more than mean to N!Hector - but I can point out how incredibly tasteless the very idea of her spouting dick jokes to pass the time is, to pretend they have sexual chemistry, when not even two months prior she sexually abused N!Hector in multiple ways and she forced that sexual tension onto him. Again, you could have written anything else, you could have had her ask him if he likes his new uniform or some shit, but somehow you managed to choose the worst possible option. peak

But also yes, the sameness just hurts everything. Hector/Julia and Alucard/Maria are conceptually a similar ship, mostly because they share similar narrative roles, but they don't talk the same, they don't interact the same, Alucard and Hector are different people and Maria and Julia are different people and it reflects in their dialogue. Maria is more jokey than Julia, because Alucard is more terse than Hector. Jonathan and Charlotte poke fun at each other from time to time, but the whole game is about their friendship, how they help each other and support each other. Jonathan is angry about his father's death and Charlotte emotionally supports him, Charlotte feels slighted when treated like a girl and Jonathan treats her like a peer, not like a genius like she wants to be seen lol but not like a little girl either. They have each other's backs in every way.

Like. You have to have some substance behind the banter. That is what I'm saying. Chemistry can be shown by jokes and all, but you also need to convince me these people like each other. When you scratch under the banter of the NFCV couples, there is either nothing behind it, or something really rotten.

(and, as I said multiple times, I actually would have liked if N!Hector and Lenore sassed each other to keep up the façade that they're happy with one another, but N!Hector is quietly seething and conflicted and Lenore regrets that their chemistry is built on deceit and imprisonment, and this is why she snaps when he briefly breaks it: out of guilt she can't cope with. That would be a great way to subvert the cliché and actually play with the tragic elements at hand that had the audience interested. But S4 is cowardly on a whole another level, so the dick jokes are just to laugh at and I'm really meant to believe their love is wholesome.)

I'll just leave this here to cap it all off:

[shitswiftiessay]

it also helps that they get exposure which benefits their careers by being seen with her at a massively televised event in which that PR relationship of Taylor’s was already planned to be front and center but go off i guess

[sluttypatrickstar]

some people have a little too much audacity

[bicraigmanning]

aria montgomery deserved better 2kforever like. in these first two seasons, her relationship with ezra is hard to watch (in more ways than one! i sometimes find myself rooting for them not to get caught, largely because i like and have sympathy for aria but also because the actors do genuinely have good chemistry. but then i remember how fucked up it is! that’s why the romanticization of this relationship was so dangerous!) - anyway. it was hard to watch and messy but she also had like. other things in her story that at least made her feel like a more fleshed out character. and i always see people saying things about how she’s not as kind as she acts like but she literally shows so much empathy to. most people. and her role as a psuedo caretaker/fixer in her family is so nuanced and interesting and informs a lot of how she interacts with ezra (she feels like she’s been forced into a more adult role, so she courts this adult ‘romance’. ugh.) and it legitimately could have been a nuanced and interesting story about family dynamics and the pressure on teenage girls in their roles in family and how that can be connected to grooming if it had been written that way but!!!!

anyway her story just becomes more and more entangled with Only Being About Ezra from what i remember. which is one of the reasons people kept theorizing about her being A but. i just see it as isolation (not total, she is obviously still very close with her friends, but there is a sort of disconnect.) and then they get MARRIED????? she deserved better for real.

[monmouthcastle]

Not max calling this race boring when it's not so different from most of the other races this season...

Why, because it isn't you in the lead? Lol

[ouatsnark]

I bet Killian Jones knew about Violet & Henry’s song. Just sayin.