#anti toxic Byler

[dwobbitfromtheshire]

It's sad that a lot of people left Tumblr because they didn't feel safe and all because they were bullied over what they shipped. This site is supposed to be a safe haven, and it makes me sad that a lot of Milevens left because they didn't feel welcomed. Aren't you able to fucking ship Byler without having to constantly harass Milevens? As much as I hate to admit it, Byler is probably going to win, so why do you feel the need to bring others down and make them feel bad for what they ship? And what pisses me off is that it's NOT ALL Bylers, but it's still way too many of them. Why can't you post about your ship and just make it a safe place for Milevens? It's funny how so many of you have claimed to love Mike and Will, but honestly, if they could see you now, they would fucking hate you. You guys don't realize it but you have turned into the very bullies who have bullied Mike, Will, Dustin, and Lucas. You have become the very bullies they hate. Seriously, just stay in your lane and leave Milevens out of your posts. Stop commenting on their posts. Just post about Byler. I may not be a Mileven shipper, but I hope the Duffers make them endgame just to spite some of you assholes. Why do you feel the need to constantly try to validate your ship and, by doing so, bring others down? Your ship is just as valid as Milevens. SHIPPING 👏 IS 👏 SUPPOSED 👏 TO 👏 BE 👏 FUN.

[sylvee4life]

Bro sometimes I somehow stumble on to the mileven side of Pinterest and… I really wonder wtf they are doing

Like can someone tell me why they posted these thinking that really ate us up💀

[byleriscanon713by]

Toxic M*leven shippers really be like “Mike and Will shouldn’t kiss that’s disgusting. Stop sexualizing minors.” Then proceed to be like “Mike and El will have passionate intercourse in st5 and we will all cry.” SMH.

[shortcakezzzz]

"its fair to hate will, yall hate el!!"

girl when did you see a byler hate on el be fr...

[justablogger234]

just a not so friendly reminder.

Suddenly mike liking will and getting together with him in season 5 would seem really cheap. Like you guys want byler so bad that you want mike to leave el for will? If the duffers were to listen to the backlash and complaints and suddenly make it seem that mike is in love with will after declaring his love for El in the previous season. Like wouldn't that seem cheap and reek of fan service? Like it's pretty pathetic. Some of you guys don't even want mike with will, some of yog just want will to be happy by any means necessary (even if it means the poor innocent girl who has suffered the whole season but is also ironically the main character suffers for it).

Don't tell me that you guys actually believe that mike likes will. Because there is nothing that could convince me that byler is real or that mike likes will. Looking at someone's lips a couple of times isn't necessarily concrete evidence that the dude likes will. And honestly have you guys seen how oblivious mike is?

[gayofthefae]

Jopper: You can find love again after being divorced.

Duzie: Love isn’t about social status and the validation of having a partner but rather things like common interests and love of each other’s company.

Stobin: Your “true love” doesn’t have to be a romantic one and you can be entirely fulfilled by a best friend.

Jancy: Love and family does not need to be the focus of your life. You can have those things while still being career driven and oriented.

ElMike: Romantic and platonic love are not hierarchal. Sometimes one relationship is closer and better as friends than as lovers. (similar to Stobin but rather than exchanging a friend for a romantic partner, shifting the nature of one relationship)

Lumax: A loving and supporting relationship is more important than the social disapproval that may come with it. (similar to Duzie but with higher stakes of racist consequences rather than just a lack of societal approval, an active disapproval)

Byler: Queer people are just as deserving of love and romance and do not need to settle for platonic relationships if they want more.

[lorax-devito]

ummmm…..

Excuse-Moi?

What did u just say???!??

Btw the comments were all basically ‘FRRR MOULDY MOUTHWASH FOR LIFE<333333’ (I wont put the real name so that they won’t find the post but they were all millipede shippers and were all hating on byler-I can’t wait for milkvans downfall so they’re all proved wrong😭)

[lit3rally-m1ke-whlr]

As literally Mike wheeler and therefore the only authority on this subject, I’ll come out and say it: Mike is transmasc and gay demiaroace. I don’t think I need to explain, really.

oh… you don’t like that? Well guess what? El is GNC, grey romantic and a lesbian. You don’t agree? Okay, then I guess Jonathan is nonbinary and pansexual. Oh, am I making you mad? Now Nancy is a genderfae comphet lesbian, Robin is a demigirl, and max is genderfluid and polyam bisexual, and how about let people enjoy their headcanons in peace and stop bitching just because you don’t like that not everyone is as homophobic or narrow minded about the sexualities of FICTIONAL CHARACTERS as you are? Thank you very much! Xoxo

[lunabug2004]

Ya'll I think the reactors I'm watching are Bylers, or at least multishippers, but they don't even know it 😂

They both teared up watching the iconic "I didn't say it" "You didn't have to" scene then one of them said "That was so sweet! You see what happens when you communicate?" which is legit one of the main reasons so many people prefer Byler. Because they can communicate with one another and it's a much healthier relationship 😂

I don't legit think they ship Byler btw, not romantically, at least not yet, bc they're rooting for Mike to end the season being able to say ILY to El, but it's so funny to me when people pick up on these things yet still want Mileven to be together.

[hnbka]

mike and el are canonically an on and off couple in high school who either argues or makes out all the time and their friends don't really like the relationship like the beck and jade parallels i could make would singlehandedly destroy milkvan

[margosbargo]

You know what? I’m tired of saying “I ship byler but no hate to Milevens”

Because I don’t like Mileven. And I don’t like you if you ship Mileven!

I will silently hate on you because it really shows how you go about your life, and what you think is right or wrong.

And this will definitely be an unpopular opinion (and probably rly toxic) but I’m sick of saying “it’s just the toxic ones that I don’t like” because it’s not just the toxic ones. It’s all of them!! I just can’t believe that you are going to ignore how obviously uncomfortable mike is in the relationship.

And ik you can use the excuse “ it’s just a show” or “it’s not real”

But it says a lot about how you view real life relationships. Personally, it’s rly weird.

And btw don’t even try to start a fight with me in this because I will not argue back! This is just me telling my thoughts. And if you don’t like them you can scroll on and pretend like you never saw this.

[dwobbitfromtheshire]

I hate the term Milkvan. It's stupid, childish, and petty. I don't ship Mileven, and I'm not telling anyone to either. . .do people not get that this is El and Mike's FIRST relationship? It's not perfect, of course it isn't and of course, I don't think they're going to last forever. They're young, they're experiencing romantic feelings for the first time while also dealing with pretty heavy shit. . .and I'm telling you now that if it had been Will instead of El, they would probably be having the same problems because Mike Wheeler doesn't know how to deal with his feelings properly especially with all the trauma he's experienced. Bylers have way more shippers. They're probably going to win, so instead of raining on Milevens' hope for the couple, why not just leave them alone? Why not focus on your ship and leave them to wish that these two can make it work? All you have to do is look at the numbers, Byler has more people on here, and Milevens don't. I don't know who started this discourse, and frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. I want to fucking end it. Just ignore Milevens, Milevens ignore Bylers and just have FUN with your ships. Enjoy the fact that we can make fanart and fanfiction over other people's work. Friendly reminder that one day, the Duffers might decide to wake up and realize that all that they profit from this might not be enough, that they don't want people rewriting what they wrote. They have the power and the right to sue sites like this. I sometimes forget about that, and I have to remember just how lucky we are that they get something out of us doing all of this. . . If you still want to bitch about Mileven *sigh* I can't stop you but can we at least quit it with Milkvan? It's the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard.

[cleradinscloset]

i always laugh when i see midlevens try to explain why mike was acting wierd and looking at wills lips in season 4. "finn was looking at noahs lips" "finn is a bad actor"

they always bring it back to finn which is so stupid. they need to face the facts. they wouldn't have kept it in if it was the actors and not the characters.

in conclusion, midlevens are stupid and byler is endgame

[byleriscanon713by]

“They wrote m*leven to be endgame before stranger things even started.” BITCH THEY WERE GONNA KILL ELEVEN AT THE END OF SEASON ONE BUT THE DUFFERS STILL KNEW HOW THEY WANTED IT TO END

[human-being-on-earth]

And how did Joyce (or any of the other characters) 𝗡𝗢𝗧 figure out he was gay by now? Like, the 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 person who (most likely) knows is Johnathan.

[jaegerisim]

i'm throwing hands at the damn bitch who wrote this