#anti tony Stark

[tonystarkisadouchebag]

you’re doing mental gymnastics to try to justify loving that billionaire capitalist bum bruce wayne while hating tony stark oh im laughing

It's not mental gymnastics. I don't hate Tony Stark because he's rich, I hate him because he's a rude, weapons manufacturer who makes bad decisions and forces other people to follow his whims. Batman is rich, but he also is shown to have an active philanthropic side and he simply isn't annoying. It's that simple.

[eunuchorn]

The difference between Steve and Tony in CA:CW will always boil down to this:

Tony stands up to authority because he was born into immense wealth and privilege and has never had to answer to anyone. He defies authority because he knows he'll never have to face actual consequences for doing so.

Steve stands up to authority because he was born into poverty and grew up a poor, disabled Irish-American during the Great Depression. He defies authority because he knows what it's like to be dismissed, undervalued, and disenfranchised and never wants anyone to face that.

Tony pushed for the accords because he knew he could just break them and nothing would happen to him (which is exactly how it went down).

Steve refused to sign the accords because he would never sign away his human rights and the rights of other people to an authority he knew would abuse them (which, again, is exactly what happened).

So in a way, they were both right about the accords. Tony was just also infinitely more wrong.

[vee-nyx]

to celebrate 8 years since civil war release, let’s review all the ways tony stark was an absolute loser and actually the reason thanos won in infinity war:

created an omnicidal A.I. that the rest of the team warned him against creating

decided that the entire team needed to become government puppets because he felt guilty for creating said A.I. that, once again, NO ONE SUPPORTED HIM IN MAKING

(also the reason bucky was forced back into the fight bc tony caused sokovia and thus caused zemo’s need for revenge but i digress on that pt)

when members of the team who can’t disconnect from their abilities raised concerns about how the accords dehumanized them, he had them arrested or locked them in his tower

bribed (yes, bribed) a child into fighting on his side because he knew he was outmatched

instructed vision to shoot sam out of the sky and then shot sam point-blank when he avoided the blast that would’ve left him severely injured AND LANDED TO HELP THE PERSON IT HIT

wanda on the raft. this is its own point. he let her be restrained and collared like a fucking DOG as if he hadn’t already done enough damage in her life (killing her parents & brother)

proceeded to break the accords THAT HE HELPED WRITE to chase cap across the globe because he felt left out of the action

blamed a brainwashed pow for BEING FORCED to kill the starks AGAINST HIS WILL and proceeded to BLOW HIS ARM OFF and ATTEMPT TO KILL HIM DESPITE KNOWING THAT NONE OF IT WAS HIS CHOICE

mocked natasha’s trauma because she dared to disagree with his methods (he is, in fact, incapable of letting go of his ego for one goddamn second)

even after receiving an apology, refused to contact cap for three years despite KNOWING about the threat of thanos

in conclusion,

[jewishbarbies]

[your-very-rude-neighborhood-ace]

honestly steve deserved to be a little meaner in civil war

“steve you have to sign the accords”

“oh right i totally should sign my rights away to a government who i exposed to have been infiltrated by nazis for DECADES. i’m sure nothing bad will happen if i do that”

“i should let the government dictate my life when all i’ve ever done is save the world by going AGAINST the government. sounds like a great plan”

like t0ny stans love to say he was being horribly selfish and mean in civil war, which he… wasn’t, but i think he should have been

[uglynavel]

I'm just gonna say it. I hate Irondad so much. The fact that the mcu erased Peter's true hero and father figure, UNCLE BEN from the movies will always piss me off thr highest levels of pisstivity!!

There's so many people Peter has hero worship for before Tonky Stank. Cap, Daredevil, Johnny Storm, Bruce Banner and Reed Richards!!

Not making Steve or Bruce his father/mentor figure was so dumb. Steve and Peter have similar backstory and the most in common when it comes to being a hero and morals. Especially mcu Peter and Steve

I'm sorry but I'll never love the irondad/ ironboy Jr dynamic and I'm glad Tony is dead and Peter can finally be Peter Parker/Spiderman and not be tied to Tony all the time

[fleursfairies]

wait so....

steve (poor): doing his best to run a support group and help the people that were affected by the blip

natasha (poor): working hard, running avengers compound and also helping people that were affected by the blip

tony (very very rich): chilled at home with his alpacas and acres of land

cool.

[i-love-tony-stark]

Y’know the truth is I don’t think Tony Stark would bother me nearly as much if his fans were just even slightly normal about him. Like antis get this reputation for being crazy obsessive hateful people, but in my experience they’re just frustrated fans that want a place to vent about an otherwise very popular character. It’s the stans who will cross tag and send death threats to blogs that dare disparage their precious baby. It’s the stans that clamor for unfair amounts of screen time and encourage the co-opting of other characters to surround Tony Stark. I don’t see antis writing a thousand 10k fanfics about Team Iron Man getting tortured and groveling to Steve. Idk maybe this is an unfortunately common fandom behavior?? It just seems so unnecessary to me

[mowritesstuff]

CACW is so interesting to me, especially in regards to how Tony Stark treated Bucky. For all his talk about following rules and regulation, the minute it comes to Barnes it’s all thrown out the window. And part of it is explainable, obviously, because Bucky killed his parents. But both logically and legally, there is a good chance that he wouldn’t have faced punishment via the government — he most likely would have had a military trial, since he was (technically) in the Army (even after being brainwashed) as a Prisoner of War. Any therapist worth their salt would have immediately found him clinically insane/unfit for trial, meaning that consequences would have been delayed for months, if not years, until he was sane enough to be able to get tried in court. With that being said, he most likely would have never been charged since everything Hydra did violated the Geneva Convention. Tony Stark knew all of this information. He knew that he had been brainwashed, he knew that he had been tortured. He knew that Bucky was Steve’s best friend and that Hydra does unspeakable things to those they deem prisoners. Hell, he could even talk to his fellow teammates and get their opinions on Bucky. But instead, Stark chose to ignore all of this information and try to punish Bucky Barnes for something he didn’t willingly do. He wanted to ignore the rules that were in place, the rules he spent the entire damn movie staunchly defending, and do what he wanted to do, damn the consequences .

What a hypocrite

[felucians]

it is my biggest complaint that the mcu didn't just get Cap to call Magneto during the events of Civil War because Wanda is literally his daughter and Magneto vs Iron Man is a fight I personally deserved to witness

[tonystarkisadouchebag]

Saw Deadpool and Wolverine and rolled my eyes as the camera focused on the Iron Man helmet and the ark reactor for a good minute. There's no respite from this man! He's just going to haunt every Marvel movie even when the characters have nothing to do with him.

[eunuchorn]

Honestly, I can't believe I still see so many Tony supporters who think that Tony was entirely justified in trying to murder Bucky at the end of Civil War. That it was actually Steve's fault that Tony did that, as if Tony isn't a grown man with personal agency (unlike Bucky) who made the conscious choice to act on his anger and straight up attempt murder.

Steve is responsible for his choice to keep the truth from Tony - which he acknowledged was wrong and apologized for because he's a good person - but he is not responsible for Tony's choices. He hurt Tony, yes, but that doesn't absolve Tony of responsibility for the way he acted on that hurt.

If it's "human" and "understandable" that Tony got so angry that he tried to kill Bucky, why isn't it human and understandable that Steve would keep that secret from Tony is a misguided attempt to spare him more pain? Why should only Steve be blamed for what happened?

I'll never understand the point of view that attempted murder is justifiable but secret keeping isn't. Steve and Tony both made mistakes, but Bucky was always innocent.

[logansgaar]

ever think about how aside from Rhodey, not even Tony's own team were really on his side because it was that garbage

Natasha, T'Challa and Vision either defected or half assed it because his lady love takes rightful priority, and T'Challa was only there on "team Iron Man" as an enemy of my enemy thing

And Peter didn't even know what was going on and was no doubt kept in the dark because if he had known he'd have been team Cap in an instant

Like...the whole set up and following films establish that Tony was not on the right side of history there his own team were like nah

[livingbythewords]

Having been rewatching Avengers lately and I really hate the fact that Steve apologizing to Tony has been so constant that it actually became a pattern. He sends him a letter of apology at the end of Civil War, although he didn't actually do anything wrong, and in the beginning of IW Tony admits to Bruce that he still won't speak to Steve even after all these years. It's infuriating.

"I don't care, he killed my mom" - oh yeah? How many mothers and fathers have you killed? Did you forget that your missiles killed Wanda and Pietro's parents? You think that because you didn't do it in person you are excused? Winter Soldier at least had the courage to face his crimes. He remembered all his victims. You didn't even know yours. You never apologized to Wanda for what you did to her. You are responsible for deaths of both her parents and her brother, and what did you do? You imprisoned her in your home, traumatizing her even further by letting her think she is a monster to be feared. The first thing you did coming back from space in EG was yell at Steve for trying to give hope to his friends so they all won't go insane. You refused to help them in their hour of need. You took the shield from Steve, and he didn't even give you hard time for that. You basically ignored Natasha's sacrifice and death and made everything about you again. You, you, you, it was always about you, and Steve never said a word to you, never called you on your bullshit, although he should have.

You don't deserve Steve Rogers as your friend. You don't deserve Natasha, either. You never did.

[myladyship]

"Tony Stark broke the cycle with Peter and Morgan."

He literally behaved like Howard towards Peter and dumped him on Happy. And Happy was also horrible. Don't even compare him to Jarvis.

Morgan never got to be old enough to question him, defy him, or make a 'mistake' in his eyes. I don't think Marvel even considers her a character.

[vicontheinternet]

Not to fanfic shame anyone but I lowkey wanna know why you would connect magneto to the mcu let it be known that Erik was holocaust survivor and say that his children were apart of a neo-nazi organization only to have him be team iron man and have the fic be anti cap when Tony was the reason his children joined the org in the first place and cap was the one defending his children and helping his daughter.