#anti ted mosby

[the-paris-of-people]

Robin 100% realized she was attracted/into Barney while they were watching Sandcastles in the Sand and made the first move on him and Ted just left it out of the story because he’s a bitter bitch

[hello-nichya-here]

No, the HIMYM finale is not secretly genius, stop lying to yourselves

The series finale of How I Met Your Mother, with Robin divorcing Barney and then getting together with Ted, a widower, years later could have been great. Yes, I'm serious.

Two people that were NOT soulmates and did NOT work out as couple when they were in their 20s met their true soulmates but life made them split up, and then they got a second chance of happiness with each other because, despite not being a perfect match they were at a point where they could make it work? Could totally work as a "bittersweet" ending. It's not "happily ever after" but it still finding happiness after the tragedy that stole their actual happily ever after, which is a valid, totally compelling story to tell.

But the writers completely destroyed any chance of it working as a satisfying story because the ending simply doesn't work as a twist and foreshadowing can't compete with consistent characterization.

The finale would only ever work if we had gotten to see the years of character development that were supposed to lead up to it. We'd have to SEE Barney and Robin's marriage deteriorating. We'd have too SEE Tracy's struggle with her illness and then Ted's years of grief. We'd have to SEE Ted and Robin slowly reconnecting and realizing that they've changed so much that can actually be a decent couple now - and more importantly, we have to see them CHANGE IN A WAY THAT MAKES THEM COMPATIBLE, NOT SIMPLY REVERSING THEM BACK TO HOW THEY WERE IN THE PILOT EPISODE BECAUSE THEY WERE ALREADY INCOMPATIBLE BACK THEN!

The show spent 98% of it's time building up to the "red-herring" of a Barney/Robin & Ted/Tracy endgame, with only the ocasional hints that this wasn't actually going to happen. It spent 9 fucking years, 9 seasons of 20+ episodes, building up to it this false endgame. Then suddenly the finale they try to give us SIXTEEN YEARS IN 40 MINUTES, expecting the audience the do the writer's jobs for them and fill in the blanks.

If they had given us the "fake ending" in the middle of the show, then spent the following seasons building up to the true ending, the finale wouldn't have been hated. Sure, no one would be surprised by the events in it, but anyone who didn't want Ted and Robin together would have bailed on the series a long time ago anyway.

And that's why they didn't do it. Because they knew most people didn't want these two to be endgame, LOVED Barney's growth as a character, and were not only eagerly waiting to meet Tracy but were also blown away by how she managed to be even better than we imagined. They wanted to have it both ways: give the audience what they wanted AND say "Sorry, this is our story, if you don't like it you don't have to watch it." It's cowardly, pathetic and a deep betrayal of the audience's trust, because people CAN accept not being given what they wanted - but they don't accept being lied to.

We never saw Barney be frustrated by Robin's work or by constant traveling before the finale - he's the "challenge accepted" guy, for fuck's sake, he used to go random trips just for the sake of having an adventure with his friends - thefore we don't believe that he is miserable enough that he'd want to end their marriage.

You can't show us Robin repeatedly choosing Barney over Ted, give us an insane scene of her covering Ted's face during sex to pretend she's sleeping with someone else, having her react to what she thinks is a proposal with 'You can't do this to me!", and even saying, to his face, that she doesn't love him, and then pretend that she totally still had feelings for him this entire time.

Even Ted pointed out, during this wedding to Stella, that Robin isn't hoping he'll remain single because she genuinely wants him, but because she's just afraid of being alone. C&C cannot convince general audiences, or critics, that she loves this man after they literally described the show as "The story of man that is in love with a woman, and she doesn't want that."

They can't tell me Ted genuinely loved Robin when he was constantly irritated by everything that makes her who she is: the fact that she's career-driven, always takes charge of everything, doesn't want kids, likes to travel around because she wants life to be an adventure, doesn't seem to believe in fate or soulmates, is a gun enthusiast, etc. They can't tell me they'd make it work when that's still who Robin is a person and Ted would still be irritated by it.

They DEFINITIVELY cannot convince me that him being hung up on her for so long means anything when he meets a new potential "soulamte" every other week, and will ALSO fall back in love with multiple exes the second he runs into them again, or so much as thinks back to the good old times.

And they absolutely cannot fucking tell me that he'd still be hung up on her after 25 fucking years, after he met his actual soulmate - unless they want me to believe the woman that was basically born from his rib is not his soulmate, which I call bullshit on.

And no, finale defenders, you cannot make this an inspirational "He found happiness with an old flame after his true love passed away because life is messy like that" when the show itself said, all the way back in season two "If Ted and Robin got married, they'd inevitably divorce, handle terribly, and screw up any kids they had."

Because yes, that's a thing that happens. When Robin meets Ted's parents, there's a whole misunderstanding about the dad supposedly cheating on the mom - and then we discover that actually they've been divorced FOR A LONG TIME, and just never told their kids because REASONS. Ted is even outraged that "Is this what passes for communication in this family?" More importantly, he and Robin, who are wearing the same colors as his parents, are shocked as they realize that the reasons for their divorce were the same reasons that made Robin not want to want Ted - the same reasons that would make them break up episodes later.

The writting is on the wall here. Ted and Robin will inevitably split up, and his kids will resent them both for getting them caught in the crossfire. Ted is already taking a page from his parents' book on How To Suck At Communicating Like A Normal Person by claiming he's gonna tell a story about their mother, only to then be like "Actually, this about how I love someone else and want to date her now."

"Oh, you just don't get it! The show was never about the Yellow Umbrella (Tracy)! It was about the Blue French Horn (Robin)!"

Yeah. It was about Robin. About how she's completely wrong for Ted and how they could never be happy together. About how he needs to let go of this obsession before it ruins his life and his relationship with everyone else that he is hurting during his attempts of getting with her: Victoria, Barney, Tracy, his children, and even Robin herself.

This is not a bittersweet ending. This is not a happy ending. This is two delusional writers ACCIDENTALLY giving their characters the most miserable endgame possible, and being convinced that they're giving us a fairy-tale ending - because yeah, that's what they thought. They weren't even aiming for bittersweet. They were never aiming for "Tragedy happens, but life goes on and you can still find happiness in it." They thought that Robin and Ted being so distraught by their awful lives that they convince themselves they were meant to be, and then go on to ruin their already shiity lives even more, was the most perfect happily ever after anyone could ask for.

The finale COULD have been great. Instead it was the worst thing imaginable, and the very fact that people can only try to defend it by WILDLY misterpreting what the writers wanted them to take from it is proof of how poorly thought out and written it was.

No one likes it for what it is, they like it for what they PRETEND it is. That simple fact is more insulting to this ending than anything I or anyone else could possibly say.

[alphawolfice1989]

Ted might want to change his last name for robin but she gives her last name to barney

[sherlockholmesmypiratesociopath]

Rewatching himym. Did you know that Barney who is the man sult of the group, took Ted with him so Ted would have fun? This man saw another dude coasting through life and waiting for something to happen so the dude's life could be fulfilling and said to himself I am gonna make his life better. Barney understands someone's deep down issues and tries to help. Yet Ted treats him like shit. Always your not my best friend and why do I hang out with you. Barney sees an awesome moment and goes it means less without friends. Did I also mention he knew all the taxi cab driver's names and treated them like members of the gang/his friends? So yes I believe Ted the unreliable narrator made Barney look worse so his kids would be okay with him perusing Barney's ex wife. Like Ted didn't deserve Robin or Tracy. Barney didn't deserve his treatment in the finale.

[humblefryingpan]

In how I met your mother Tracy's partner (idk husband/fiance/boyfriend?) died and she refused to date anyone for years. Even when she did she "asked him" first

And then she died and her husband (the father of her two kids) got back with his ex? Really Ted?

[childofnemesis]

just finished himym and to say the least it has been a rollercoaster 😭

soooo lets rate the gang

lily aldrin: no 1!!! my girl lillyyyy. i love and adore this woman soo much. she is NOT a pick me and she is NOT annoying at all. she is honestly one of the best and least problematic characters in the entire show. i fully support her desicion to go to san fran bc js for once in her life before she got married she wanted to do something for herself. and that is in no means selfish. the breakup sucked but they got back together stronger than ever.

marshall eriksen: husband of the lovely lily aldrin. i love them together. i dont always love how he treats lily (ofcs hes a great husband) but sometimes. ONLY SOMETIMES i think he's being rlly unfair to lily. overall love him too- suuper unproblematic, he's soo bbg coded as well.

robin scherbatsky: eh no 3. she was finnee. she was funny but sometimes she was soo problematic. the way she always hates on patrice and for what reason??? throwing herself at barney when he said that they shouldt be tgt. like ik it was part of the "plan" and all but like she didn't respect his desicions. rejecting ted and then being jealous when ted gets a gf? but like other than these small moments where she annoyed me, shes finnneeee.

barney stinson: i love him, and he's funny, ill give him that buutttt... i feel like the way his charcter is explained is like too "playboy" ish which is finnee but i doo have some issues with it bc like it makes it sound like he "sa/r*ped" women. i love his development thoo but like i really need to see him atone for what he did to women before he fell in love w robin/ had his daughter.

ted mosby: i absolutely hate his character. he was played off as this "hopeless romantic who things never work out for" but he really is just a bad person. he treats barney like shit and thinks he's above barney. he cheats on his girlfriend. he emotionally manipulates people. there are no words to explain how much i hate this person. tracy deserved better. and plus- since he's the narrator i really find it hard to believe a lot of the stuff in the show bc he probably exagerated them. barney probably wasn't that much of a playboy, robin was probaby in love with barney but ted was js delusional, the list goes on...

[nerdylibertarian928]

Me before the himym finale: stella was a major bitch to ted for leaving at the altar for her ex tony, moving to new york with tony when she refused to do so for ted, asked ted to get tony to take her back, and letting tony write that screenplay that made ted look bad

Me after the himym finale: i change my mind stella was right to do that to ted

[chenfordswopez]

Ross Samantha Geller and Ted Vivian/Evelyn Mosby can choke.

[buffyspeak]

speaking my truth: i know ted from himym is like, actually not a very good either, but it is BAFFLING to me when people think barney is better. the man who REGULARLY seeks out emotionally vulnerable women to sleep with them, lies to them about who he is, sexually harasses them, etc. and yes i know it's because he has 'character development' or whatever but barney treating the One Woman he happens to be 'in love' with at the time (robin, nora, quinn) marginally better than he does other women does not cancel out that in general he's a misogynistic creep w/consent issues galore throughout his 'conquests'. (i would also argue that he doesn’t treat most of them very well either.) nor does the fact that he has a daughter, which causes him to shame girls he was Just trying to hit on (and i know this is supposed to be a part of his character development and yeah don't sleep with the girls so much younger than you but also don't shame them for what they're wearing or wanting to go out and have casual sex, what the hell) all the while /never once saying the name of the mother of his child, instead referring to her as a number./

and again this is not me saying ted is better than barney. he Often does the same shit, especially as the seasons go on, but acts above it and thinks of himself as a 'nice guy'. this isn't me saying he's good, it's they're both awful lmao.

[allfuckstogiveinaburningpile]

The entirety of Ted and Robin’s romance revolved around the characters (side characters, their friends, complete strangers) telling Robin how nice of a guy Ted was and why wouldn’t she want to be with him?? And then when she caves, and the relationship really doesn’t work (because of Ted trying to mold her into something different) but he still persists and doesn’t let go and doesn’t accept it, she really does start to feel like there is something wrong with her, it can’t be Ted of course cause he’s soooo nice and everyone knows it so it has to be her. It’s just such a cruel thing to do to Robin’s character and even when she wasn’t with him there was always that pressure. I think most moments where she didn’t have to endure that were during and after her relationship with Barney. And the best thing about it is that when it didn’t work out the first time? They accepted it, they talked about it as adults, they were okay. Even if they hadn’t tried again just that detail would’ve proved Swarkles superior to Schmosby.

Ted does not truely love robin. At least not in the first few seasons. he was obsessed with her, yet he didn't like anything about who she actually was. They didn't like the same things. He just wants to "fix" her into being a perfect wife for him, but she doesn't need fixing. He literally told her he didn't like how independent she was and wished she was more needy because it made him feel bad. Barney, despite his flaws, likes robin for who she is. He loves that she's independent and likes scotch and guns and basically the same kinda stuff he does. They get along really well. Robin LIKES Barney for who he is. robin felt obligated to be with Ted. It's obvious because after their relationship is over it doesn't take long for her to move on. But with Barney, she stays hung up on him even after their breakup. Ted was pining after the idea of robin while Robin was missing Barney, and he was missing her. she actually liked him, she pursued him on her own. Ted had to spend weeks begging for her to give him a chance. It was just...so annoying to watch Ted try and force robin into the role he wanted for her, meanwhile Robin and Barney were falling into actual love. Even though it wasn't perfect, it was real love. Robin let Barney know who she really was. Robin could be herself around Barney. She could never do that with Ted because he was always critical of her behavior and wanting her to change for him.

[hello-nichya-here]

The dude who tried (and sometimes succeeded) in trying to win over women that were married/about to be married not once, not twice, but FIVE FUCKING TIMES!

I'm sorry but TED DID WHAT?!

Yup, you read it right. Ted Mosby, the guy that the writers were constantly trying to push as the perfect, most romantic lead in the whole world, apparently has a very serious homewrecking kink.

The first time was in season one, with Ted going to a matchmaker, and finding out that the only woman he'd be a good match with already went out with a guy that was slightly less ideal (according to the computer) and is engaged to him. Ted then finds out she's a doctor, goes to her place of work, and tries to convince her he is her soulmate, not her fiance - who she'll be marrying VERY soon.

Ted doesn't know this woman. Literally the only information he has is "She went on a matchmaker and her profile was a lot like his." That's it. That is all the excuse he needs to try to sabotage someone's wedding. This is also one of the few times in which we are supposed to be laughing at him, instead of wanting him to get the girl. Well, I think that was the intention, but God knows I stopped expecting common sense from this show a LONG time ago.

The second time homewrecking Ted is seen is during season 3. He decides to "live like Barney" (because OBVIOUSLY Ted would neeeever decide to do something like this on his own, please ignore the previous exemple, and the next three) and hooks up with a married woman during a party, and feels exactly zero shame or guilt over it until Marshall talks some sense into him. This is the LAST time in which we'll see that kind of behavior from Ted be treated as explicitly wrong by the show - even though his actions will only get worse.

Homewrecking Ted comes back in season 6, when he falls for Zoey, a married woman. A married woman he is constantly spending time with even though EVERYONE is warning him that this isn't going to end well as they all can see that what they have isn't just friendship. All except Zoey's husband, who thinks Ted is a great guy - in fact, when Zoey leaves him, the poor guy comes to the bastard for comfort, because he thought Ted was his friend.

Ted is 100% in the wrong, but the show thinks that his search for "The One" justifies everything plus they technically didn't become an item before Zoey made up her mind about who she wanted, so it's totally okay that she left her husband for him - after all, she could have maybe possibly been the woman of Ted's dreams, so who cares if she was the love of someone else's, her husband's, life.

The fourth time is at the end of season seven, when he falls back in love with his ex, Victoria, even though she will be getting married soon. The two of them almost hook up, but decide against it... for a little while. On the wedding day, Victoria wants to leave her fiance at the altar, and Ted is tempted to be with her, but he decides to do the right thing and take her to the church where the wedding will happen... and then changes his mind while driving, because once again, who cares about the other completely innocent dude when Ted needs to find "The One" - he is the ONLY person who deserves someone who loves him, right?

The show tries to remedy that by having Ted demand Victoria leave her would-be-husband a letter explaining why she wouldn't marry him because that's what Stella did with him. Guess what? That doesn't mean shit, he's still doing something horrible. A "I stole your future wife, man, sorry. But I made her write you a letter" doesn't fix a goddamn thing.

Oh, but the groom left too! Because turns out Victoria was NOT the right woman for him! That totally excuses Ted's behavior right? OF COURSE NOT! He didn't even know that when he decided to be with Victoria. As far as he knew, that dude was going to be left utterly heartbroken in the exact same way he himself once was - and he still thought he was justified in what he was doing.

And now we reach the big one. Season 8. Ted and Victory break up because, this whole time, during the years in which Ted has been pulling this kind of bullshit, he was actually NOT thinking that the doctor, or Zoey, or Victoria were "The One", as his true love was Robin all along, and SHE is the one he knew he'd always come back to - THEN WHY THE FUCK DID HE TRY, AND SOMETIMES SUCCEED, IN RUINING OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES?

And how does he handle the fact that the supposed love of his life is actually not interested in him, wants to marry someone else, and that someone else happens to be a friend of his that has REPEATEDLY asked Ted for his blessing to pursue Robin?

Well, you see, he sulks about how Robin should leave Barney for him. Because, you know, he loves her more, saw her first, dated her first, is the better man, found a locket she had buried years ago, dramaticly held her hand while it was raining and whatever excuse the writers can come up with to pretend Ted is only trying to sabotage his friend's wedding because "It's true love!" and not at all because he is a selfish, entitled asshole who has a habit of doing that.

In fact, on the morning of her wedding, Ted STILL wants to profess his supposed love for Robin, only to get shut down again AS SHE OBVIOUSLY MADE HER CHOICE VERY CLEAR A LONG TIME AGO.

Oh, but the writers want more drama and have her suddenly get cold feet and ask Ted why shouldn't she be with the guy who loves her so much. And what does Ted, the guy who has been sulking about losing her for months and stabbed Barney in the back by telling his bride he loves her and wants her to give him another chance, say as a response?

"The truth is I don't love you like that anymore. And you don't love me, you love Barney"

Yeah, we know that, asshole. We've known that for a while. And apparently so did you this entire time, YET YOU STILL TRIED TO STEAL HER FROM BARNEY MERE HOURS AGO! WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS?

Simple: because Ted is in love with the idea of love, and will project romantic feelings onto anything that breathes and has a pulse, and will go to absurd lengths to win over the (temporary) object of his affection, even if it means destroying people's lives - and in fact, that drastic consequence often doesn't even register as a factor in his mind.

And what do the writers of How I Met Your Mother do with this obvious character flaw? They use it to claim Ted is a true romantic, a SYMPATHETIC lead, the nicest of all nice guys, and eventually reward him by letting him have BOTH the actual perfect woman for him (Tracy) and also the woman that could not have been more wrong for him, yet that he was obsessed with for TWENTY FIVE YEARS, aka Robin.

Fuck this show.

[alphawolfice1989]

Robin chose to hang out with barney instead of going to a wedding with ted

[sherlockholmesmypiratesociopath]

HIMYM makes Barney more likeable by making him treat everyone like a person where Ted only treats his love interests like people. Barney does treat his one night stands like disposable, but most one night stands don't want to be in your life permanently. Ted left a lot of chocolate in Robin's apartment that it made the dog sick. Also Lilly is pigeon holed into marring Marshall despite her wanting something more. At one point Lilly and Robin were full people before the season finale made them only wives and mothers.

[childofnemesis]

YES YES YES

he probably exaggerated everything that was going on and how barney acted to make himself seem better. i dont really like how barney's character is shown but a huge part of that is because i realised TED F*CKING MOSBY is the narrator and i can not trust anything he says.

when people compare Ted and Barney's horribleness without taking into account that Ted is the (unreliable) narrator of the show...

[chenfordswopez]

Ted is a psychopath

[hello-nichya-here]

Anyone who's voting Ross instead of Ted has never watched How I Met Your Mother, and for their sake I hope they never do.

Propaganda why Ted Mosby is insufferable:

He’s so selfish, immature, and annoying. Death!

Ted repeatedly chases women who are unattainable. (Stella, etc) and that he is fundamentally incompatible with. (Robin). Especially after Robin finds out she's infertile, it's a big asshole move of him to chase after her knowing that he'll eventully leave for a women that wants to marry and have kids. Ted is pretentions and lacks the moral backbone to go against Barney's bullshit. Ted often chases after women half his age with Barney.

certified Nice Guy syndrome where he's a huge misogynist but acts like he's just a widdle baby....UGH

He tells his kids some really inappropriate things and comes off as annoying even though he is the one narrating the show. Also, he’s only telling the story so his kids will approve of him going after their Aunt Robin

Propaganda why Ross Geller is insufferable:

He blames everyone else for everything despite it often being his fault, so he never improves. Not even a little.

He’s Mental Geller

Many many reasons. I haven’t even watched that much of friends and I have a burning hatred of Ross. There is general stuff such as homophobia and misogyny (at one stage he stops his son playing with a Barbie because it’s a “girls toy”) but also other stuff such as anger issues, narcissism and other toxic behaviour. Why he is consider a quirky funny member of the group and not a dangerous guy who needs to be excommunicated is beyond me. I hate ross