#anti peggy

[questionableratatouille00]

listen instead of using Nat as the jealous girl in your Steve x reader fics how about we use Peggy instead. like she’s already a crazy jealous person. the shooting the shield scene. she’s perfect for it. nat deserves better. peggy does not

[hail-americas-ass]

💄Anti-Peggy Carter Meta

PEGGY CARTER: A CHARACTER OF ELITISM, PRIVILEGE, AND WHITE FEMINISM

How to (Not) Handle Rejection with a Few Bullets or Less: a Comprehensive Guide By Peggy Carter ft @kestrafagnor

 Peggy Carter: A Mosaic Made from Other Characters ft @amarriageoftrueminds

Peggy Carter: A Patron and Paragon of White Feminism​

More to be added

HYDRA SLEEPER AGENT PEGGY CARTER, AND WHY IT FITS

Peggy Carter and the ‘Noble Nazi Collaborator’ archetype

Cynthia Glass and Peggy Carter: Two Sides of the Same Coin

Peggy Carter shouldering her way into Bucky’s character like a badly fitting jacket

Why did Peggy live peacefully into her 90′s if she was a major threat to Hydra? check out the metas here by @kestrafagnor​

Peggy Carter could’ve been an astonishing villain, perhaps even the best​ ft @lordzannis 

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[suchababie]

HER AGAIN?? I mean i’m so stoked to see Kahhori BUT honestly i am sick and tired of marvel shoving peggy down our throats. I wanted to see more of our og avengers (yes yes i am bias but i miss them) but i am stoked for s3 tho bc we get to see more of our fave babygirl bucky

[mieczyhale]

just saw a “she’s barbie, he’s just ken” post that is p*ggy and steve and it’s gotta be one of the most offensive and wrong things i’ve seen in awhile

he’s barbie, she’s not even ken

ken wouldn’t hire nazis or sexually assault barbie. like i feel pretty confident in saying that. ken wouldn’t hurt a queen

[hail-americas-ass]

Me every time I run into Peggy stans in the wild

this has been discussed before but reducing female characters to the girlboss braincell holder in the name of combating misogyny in fandom is ironically also a form of misogyny

[countessravengrey]

Shout out to ships whose canon relationships were sacrificed in order to give the hero a woman as a prize.

[lavenderpanic]

Steve "I won't stop until all of HYDRA is dead or captured" Rogers skipping off into the sunset to marry the woman who knowingly held open the door for Nazis to infiltrate SHIELD is like. Possibly one of the worst decisions ever made ever.

[atlas-on-earth]

just rewatched avengers endgame with my mother and i cried because of steve's ending (not in the way the writers intended) and my mother just looked at me with knowing in her eyes bc she knew i'd go nuclear. now in our house we call him the bad writing boogeyman.

[hail-americas-ass]

I wholeheartedly believe that this is the pinpoint moment where Bucky realises that Steve had chosen Peggy over him.

Most people interpret this scene as Bucky feeling rejection from Peggy, but can we step away from the heteronormative perspective?

Clearly that isn’t it. Bucky knows Steve likes her, he saw their reunion when they returned from Azzano, he saw how Steve lit up in a way Bucky wished was projected at him. He knows, perhaps knew ever since that reunion that Steve would choose Peggy, he knew all through the trip back to London, he knew when he was walking with Steve to the pub, but it probably never hit him until this point.

Bucky keeps his head high, keeps a pleasant smile on his face even when he looks at the floor with what I’m assuming is sadness, because Steve is his best friend and his North, and Peggy is Steve’s North. So Bucky will let Steve be happy even if it isn’t with him. He knows Steve isn’t his, but Bucky lets him go because he wants Steve to be loved even if it isn’t with him.

This sharply contrasts with how Peggy reacts when presented a situation where Steve is kissing another woman. What does she do? Shoots him without knowing if the shield actually works or not. She literally shoots someone who she has no claim over because she’s jealous, and fuck everyone and everything if Steve isn’t hers.

Clearly, Bucky is a better option for Steve because he a) isn’t a prick who thinks he’s entitled to Steve’s affection and love b) isn’t willing to possibly hurt Steve for liking someone else and c) isn’t Peggy Carter.

@kestrafagnor thoughts?

[imposterogers]

mcu peggy carter is so fucked up bc they wanted her to be a # girlboss. which they attempted by having her shoot at steve when another girl flirted with him (not even him flirting with another girl) and canonically recruiting n@zis into shield (an organization made in cap’s honor) including the scientist arnin zola who she knew experimented on steve rogers best friend. like y’all couldn’t have figured something else out or…

[ivysos2001]

Anyone else find it weird/unrealistic that (in endgame) Peggy kept pre-serum Steve’s photo on her desk for DECADES after his ‘death’

Like in Agent Carter we saw her find and hold onto that photo which I think makes a lot of sense (his ‘death’ is still pretty recent and obviously she’s still grieving him) so ofc she might want to keep that photo in her possession etc (even her holding onto the photo permanently makes sense bc of how important he was to her) but I seriously can’t see Peggy deciding to put that photo on her desk let alone keeping it there for 25 years after she lost him

And I could give you a whole list of similarly weird Peggy-centric Steve examples from endgame (randomly bringing her up as ‘the love of his life’ and staring at her photo in that compass all of the sudden after like a decade long moving-on-in-the-present arc) but I find it kinda ridiculous (and honestly semi-character assassinating) for both of them that marvel (specifically in endgame) was so committed to preventing either of them from moving on (or even rewriting/discrediting their individual moving on arcs) in the years after they lost each other

Their love story in catfa is such a beautiful one in a tragic kind of way with both of them ultimately losing each other and having to move on without each other and I feel like their mutually being forced back together in endgame kind of corrupts the beautiful tragedy that their relationship was in the first place and hurts both characters’ overall development

Edit: ok coming back to this post and rethinking it a little I feel like it wasn’t actually Steve’s picture on her desk or Peggy’s picture in his compass that pissed me off in endgame - it was more the strictly romantic implications that both of these seemed to have within the movie bc (as I said above) I feel like marvel forcing strictly romantic feelings on both sides of Steve and Peggy’s relationship undercuts the larger importance of this relationship to both of these characters in catfa

I just wish that Steve and Peggy keeping each others’ pictures close were just allowed to be signs that both of them still cared about each other and kept each other close in their thoughts and values etc (esp bc we’ve literally seen them both move on romantically)

[biwoop]

[damthosefandoms]

i love you vietnam vet au cherrycola where soda hasn’t written to anyone in months because he’s terrified and he doesn’t want to give his loved ones hope. but one day he just up and sends a girl he hasn’t spoken to basically since he dropped out of high school a zero-context letter saying “i get why you hate fights now” and something implying he’s been in love with her since first grade, and in the package with the letter is a book with a cherry blossom flower pressed inside. because he saw it in a dark time over there and it reminded him of her.

[darthkote]

[luna-rainbow]

I know a lot of fans are upset about What If and its continual attempts at making Steggy a thing.

But I don't see it as Disney has won? I came into this fandom in 2021, long after Endgame stopped any chance of further canon Steve and Bucky interactions, and I know of fans who came into the fandom long after that.

Because the magic is still there. Because CATWS was a genuinely well-written story and a well-presented movie. The plot, the themes, the characters, the action, the music -- all of it culminating in a climax where the main character reverses 70 years of manipulation and torture with a simple phrase, and in doing so, saves both him and the person he says it to.

Whether you choose to see them as romantic or platonic or anything else, that unbreakable bond is there.

What If and Rogers Musical are cheap knockoffs trying to capitalise on the same magic without understanding what created the magic in the first place. It's the sacrifice and the loyalty, the shared loss and shared experience, the same wanderlust and same homesickness. It is the thematic relevance and the narrative significance. It is the fact that Bucky was tied to Steve's identity as much as Steve is tied to Bucky's, that every key beat in Steve's journey to becoming Captain America and upholding his values involved Bucky.

The real tragedy about the Steve-Peggy story - as a Peggy fan had pointed out actually - is that even in What If, her story remains subservient to Steve. Not What If Steve, but canon Steve. Unlike other stories in What If, where a simple change leads to a butterly effect of an unrecognisable future, the direct effect of copying Steve-Bucky's interactions beat for beat is that "Peggy" becomes the least consequential factor in the story. "She is just as good as Steve", the writers want to say, "she brought forward feminism by 2 decades". But the reality is…she continues to be a non-character and a non-factor, because even in a timeline as significant as a woman becoming the first super soldier, the universe barely changes. It simply fills in the holes with other characters and continue on the same inevitable path.

Bad stories are forgettable, good stories last forever. Remember when we had that hilarious poll against OFMD and a bunch of people came out of the woodworks to vote for Stucky even though they had long left the fandom? Because a good story has magic, and it's left an indelible print on many people's lives.

Disney had already lost the day Steve uttered, "I'm with you to the end of the line, pal." The characters belong to us now.

[harleythealter]

I don’t like Peggy but she still doesn’t deserve to be his trophy. Steve doesn’t deserve that plot line either—regardless of the one I prefer—he deserves genuine respect and not a man who has been pining for his entire life.

I will die on this hill