#anti nicasia

[ninainthetardis]

I really need that new FotA sequel to be Cardan's pov. Like, I really need that.

[vampirehizzies]

nicasia when cardan doesn't want anything to do with her after she cheats on him with their literal mutual friend

[nicasiia]

you know, if I was forced to live on land away from my mother and home, out of my natural habitat and then I actually managed to make friends there and I fell in love with my best friend (so deeply that I was willing to murder the other girls he took to bed) and I broke his heart because we were both young and stupid but it was the biggest regret of my life and then some arrogant little wench kidnapped him and forced him to take the crown right after he watched his family (who had all rejected and abused him) suffer death right in front of him (in front of the entire court) but he decided to sleep with her (and then she forced him to seduce me and sleep with me for her own ends, though he didn’t want me) I would be a bitch too

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[cruelprincae]

Spell Out Your URL With Song Titles - Then Tag As Many People As There Are Letters In The URL:

C : cardigan - taylor swift

A : anti-hero - taylor swift

R : rasputin - boney m.

D : daylight - david kushner / taylor swift

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tagged by : @little-miss-buffy tagging : @acourtcfmuses ( jude ), @veritasumbra ( mor & az ) , @fuckfate , @krvla ( balekin because cardan wants to laugh bcz he doesn't know any songs hehe & also nicasia ) , @arteabbandonata ( philo ) , @scribedhorror

[peace-andharmony]

I love this and I'd like to add....

Locke: anti-hero

Nicasia: back to december

Valerian: look what you made me do

Ghost: the archer

Roach: out of the woods

Bomb: when emma falls in love

The Cruel Prince Series

i did this before with red queen characters but now ima do this with some of my favourite cruel prince characters so behold:

The Cruel Prince as Taylor Swift songs (without any explanation)

Cardan: exile (iykyk)

Jude: vigilante shit

Taryn: delicate

Vivi: cardigan

Madoc: don't blame me

Dain: mastermind

[slightlyrebelliouswriter23]

Hi I’m sorry for all my anti-Jurdan tantrums lately… but I’m not anti-Jurdan more anti-Nicasia yet I can’t make peace with the fact that Cardan still cares about Nicasia despite the fact she tortured Jude. So I have to ask, do you think Nicasia and Cardan are still friends despite the fact she tortured Jude?

to answer your main question: maybe not friends, per se, but i think there will always be an understanding between Cardan and Nicasia. they are each other's longest standing allies/accomplices, that kind of bond isn't one broken lightly.

but i want to talk about the rest of your ask because there's a lot to unpack there.

you seem to be hung up on this "Nicasia tortured Jude" narrative. and while that may be your reading of it, i don't really see it that way.

Orlagh was the one who kidnapped Jude. Orlagh was the one who held her captive. Orlagh was the one who gave her less than humane living conditions. she is the queen of the Undersea. if Jude had been meant to be treated with decency while there, she would have been under no one else's command than Orlagh's. instead, Jude stayed in a cold, dark unfurnished cell and drank sea water and was given very little food for weeks. because of Orlagh.

if you think Nicasia had any hand in Jude's treatment while she was kidnapped in the Undersea, if you think Nicasia is anything more than a pretty pawn to a cold and ruthless queen, i'm sorry but that is a plain misreading of the text.

anger at children who are literally trying to Figure It All Out, is often sorely misplaced in this series, and it breaks my heart that people wouldn't have a more nuanced understanding of their situations. we should be directing that anger at the people who are usually the ones directly responsible: the parents and guardians.

just to be clear, the only thing Nicasia did directly was punch Jude in the stomach once and take away her air bubble for five seconds. that doesn't exactly scream "torture". that was a brief altercation catalysed by anger, and perhaps also jealousy.

Nicasia thought Cardan, her ex-lover and longest known friend, was being romantically manipulated by Jude somehow. and though Jude wasn't manipulating Cardan's feelings for her, Nicasia was under that impression and was called to rock her shit for it. it's dramatic irony–quite a useful and entertaining literary device.

also, need i, for the millionth time, remind us all that Jude has done far worse than punch someone in the stomach.

–Em 🖤🗡

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[jurdanhell]

i asked a friend who’s never read tfota to describe its characters

here’s how it went:

overall i think he did a pretty good job considering i haven’t actually blabbed about tfota too much to him. what do you think?

all artwork is by @phantomrin

JUDE

okay who do you think she is

cold blooded ruler of a kingdom forced into war by circumstances beyond their control if i had to guess

CARDAN

and him?

i’m getting loki vibes from that lad, a sort of anti-hero who gets into trouble and dabbles with villainy but at the end of the day he’s a good dude

TARYN

good-guy protagonist vibes from that one, relatively innocent at the beginning of the story but suffers some kind of loss prior to the climax that like, makes her both more cold AND more powerful/motivated

VIVI

getting bad guy vibes there. she looks like she uses her beauty to sabotage/manipulate for her own goals, and she doesn’t play by the rules. a formidable foe 100%

OAK

protagonist for sure. if it was a magic story, i’d say not a very powerful magician but one with a certain skill that would 100% help out the characters along the way. kind and innocent, from what i see here

MADOC

a bad guy, but not bad because he’s evil, bad cause he’s been through some stuff and that’s just how he’s had to be to survive. he looks like he’s in a powerful position, but again, i’m getting vibes like “he’s a surface bad guy, but not for reasons in his grasp of control

ORIANA

someone who knows too much. not really in the “good guy/bad guy” scheme, just kinda neutral. i have no doubt she’s incredibly powerful but for some reason or another chooses not to use her powers or to get involved with sides

LOCKE

wise, clever, good guy. has a knack for ingenuity, but is also sometimes dangerously arrogant. an asset

VALARIAN

i can’t read that face but that curved dagger screams “bad dude”

NICASIA

good guy, but not by a lot. she looks incredibly powerful, pretty much the opposite kingdom of the first gal you sent me. she looks like she’s helping the protagonists not because she likes them, but because there’s something in it for her. possible betrayal in the making? possible

BALEKIN

good guy for sure. seems like a tough guy but a nice guy at heart. plus emo so that’s some bonus points

DAIN

looks like this guy’s picture is hung in a palace somewhere to signify his heroism. good guy, at least on the surface, strong of mind either way. also, nice bird

THE BOMB

good guy, clever, inventor. the team engineer maybe? intelligent vibes. love the hair too!

THE ROACH

i sense military leadership in this lad, he’s been doing this forever. if you ever saw guardians of the galaxy, i’m getting yondu vibes from this guy. he’s a good guy, and if the rest of them are magic, he’s not. he’s just a normal guy. but he’s a normal guy with experience and genius strategy. and that’s what makes him so dangerous. he’s right on par with the others, even without magic

THE GHOST

2. okay you know gale from the hunger games? yeah, that’s pretty much that lad there. a stealth agent by trade and a hunter by passion, he can invade enemy lines with ease. although not a people person, coupled with an espionage expert their squad can infiltrate enemy lines with ease

[percontaion-points]

Ghost in the Stone chapters 25 & 26

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Chapter 25

Caina nodded, retrieved her throwing knives from the courtyard, and headed for the Gallery of the Well, Sicarion and Corvalis following.

Chapter 25 summary: After the three of them get away from the room, Sicarion says that it's probably safe to open their eyes. Caina seems to think that they might be able to get some help, but Sicarion bursts that bubble. Says that the leaders left for a better place to hide from potential assassin attacks, while all of the slaves fled. It's only just them in the place now.

The ground has been shaking throughout the past two chapters as the guy summons the earth spirit. But now, the ground bursts open and a huge spirit comes out; Sicarion says that it's only just a minor earth spirit. Corvalis attacks with his sword, but the thing is made out of stone, and a steel sword does nothing. They're forced to use magic and ghostsilver.

However, Caina realizes that the thing doesn't notice her since she's wearing the anti-magic cloak. She distracts it from Corvalis, and then leads it from the area, across a bridge. The bridge collapses under the weight, which takes the spirit down into the water, where it “drowns” because it is rock.

They take a moment to breathe before they head out to stop the guy from summoning an even bigger, even more powerful spirit.

Chapter 26

“Well, you did help us against the Kindred,” said Caina, and she grinned.

The Ghosts paid their debts.

And so did Caina.

Chapter 26 summary: The three of them come upon Ranarius as he's almost finished summoning the spirit. Sicarion disables his anti-steel wards, and they try to attack him like that.

Ranarius asks for Sicarion to help him encase Caina in stone for the next couple of centuries so that they can be free. But the difference between Sicarion and Ranarius is that Sicarion likes working for Jadriga.

They continue fighting. At some point, Ranarius shoots both Caina and Corvalis with lightning; Covalis goes down and doesn't get up.

But eventually, Caina manages to break the slave bracelet on Ranarius's wrist. Nicasia shows up, toys with the idiot a little bit, before she turns him to stone. And then because he would eventually be released from stone, they push him down into the seemingly bottomless well.

As thanks for having freed her, Nicasia goes with Caina and Corvalis (still alive after being struck by lightning), where she un-petrifies Claudia.

[slightlyrebelliouswriter23]

Theories and Analysis Masterlist

A probably incomplete list of mostly TFOTA meta from my mind to your unfortunate dashboards. Buckle up, Folks. I’m monologuing.

THEORIES

Jude isn’t Balekin’s murderer; she’s the fulfilment of his curse

Why Cardan sleeps in the chambers of the lover of the High King in TWK

The Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland book

Did Balekin know about Cardan’s secret crush?

Did Madoc know about Cardan’s secret crush?

Cardan’s poisoning

What did Cardan think when he saw Jude helping Sophie?

Eldred is NOT Cardan’s father???

Is Ghost the sender of the letter?

Baphen’s prophecy doesn’t disagree

Why this explains Eldred’s hatred for Cardan

ANALYSIS

True Names in Faerie - Part I  |  Part II

Meaning of Cardan’s name

Cardan’s True Name

Ageing in Faerie- Part I  |  Part II

On curses and geases

Why did Eva run from Madoc?

On Taryn, jealousy, and Nicardan

Why Nicardan has always slept with the fishes

Meaning of “clay” in Undersea threat

How to get away with murdering the fae

Could Taryn seduce Cardan? Part I  |  Part II

Meaning behind Cardan saying Locke and Jude are perfect for each other

Cardan Greenbriar is SMART

Cardan, Jude, and Taryn’s earrings

Jude’s dress clarification

Jude and Cardan are flawed

What does Cardan mean when he asks Jude to tarry a moment in TWK?

Why does Cardan call Jude a liar when she fell from the rafters in QON?

Cardan’s unreadable expressions

Why did Cardan want Nicasia to stay on land at the end of TWK?

What did Jude’s snake dream mean in QON?

Why did Lady Asha burn Cardan’s letters?

If faeries are allergic to salt, how do they survive in the Undersea?

Why did Cardan rip that faerie’s wing off in TCP?

Three is an odd configuration of sisters

Why Locke’s death was so satisfying

Do Jude and Cardan have middle names?

What exactly is Nevermore?

What would Cardan do if Jude commanded him to lie while he was still in her service?

More on true names and lying

In defence of one...

Cardan Greenbriar- Part I (How can I forgive Cardan?) |  Part II (Did Cardan slut-shame Taryn?) The Lost Sister Excerpt  |  Part III (Why does he think mortals are inferior?) 

Vivienne Duarte

Nicasia- Part I  |  Part II  |  Part III

Taryn Duarte- Part I  |  Part II  |  Part III  |  Part IV  |  Part V

On Jurdan

Why Jude’s feelings for Cardan seemed so sudden

When did Cardan fall for Jude?

Did Cardan love Jude in TCP?

Did Cardan know Jude didn’t hate him?

Did Cardan know Jude’s feelings in TWK?

This is why Cardan loves Jude

Meaning of “I hated you” in HTKOELTHS

Did Kaye and Roiben know about Jurdan?

What exactly happened in TWK ch. 15?

Was Cardan talking dirty to Jude in QON?

Why did Cardan tell Jude to say “I hate you” in TWK?

Why didn’t Cardan sleep in the Royal Chambers with Jude in QON?

Why did Cardan flinch when Jude said “Jude loved somebody else” in QON

What was going through Cardan’s head during the Queen of Mirth scene in TWK?

Would Jude and Cardan follow each other in death?

Why was Jude, the most terrifying thing in Elfhame, afraid of Cardan?

Jurdan and PDA

QON Chapter 21 THAT SCENE break down

Is Jurdan bullies to lovers?

About Jurdan’s wedding vows...

Did Jude change her name to Greenbriar?

Jude wouldn’t say “you piece of shit” to Cardan

OPINIONS

Reasons to love Cardan Greenbriar

Ch. 15 vs. Ch. 21

Who wears the pants in the relationship?

My opinion on Jurdan and kids? - Part I  |  Part II

Do I think Jurdan will have kids?

My thoughts on HTKOELTHS

Cardan and pet names for Jude

My thoughts on anti-QON re: OOC!Jude

My thoughts on Judcasia

Is Cardan bi?

My favourite poison

My favourite scenes from TFOTA

Diversity in TFOTA

Virginity in TFOTA

Let Jude murder in peace!- Part 1  |  Part 2

Did Jude and Cardan keep their love private?

What kind of instruments does Cardan play?

Jude is... kind of a terrible person? (affectionate)

Thoughts on Toast (Taryn/Ghost)- Part 1  |  Part 2

April fools ask

TFOTA books ranked

My first reaction to TWK chapter 15

Nicaryn Headcanons

What music would TFOTA characters listen to?

My thoughts on Oak/Suren spinoff

My thoughts on The Lost Sisters

THE STOLEN HEIR OPINIONS/ANALYSIS

My thoughts on The Stolen Heir

Part I (thoughts during)

Part II (thoughts right after)

Part III (in relation to TFOTA)

Thoughts on Suren

Part I

Part II

Thoughts on Oak

Reaction to Suren’s tongue being ripped out

What were the meanings behind the stories told in TSH?

On the passage of time in TSH

Does Oak love Wren?

YOUR ESSAYS

Madoc slander

My fancast takes

Why I don’t want a film adaptation

Felix Mallard as Cardan

heir_of_atticus as Cardan

Timothee Chalamet as Cardan and Zendaya as Jude

My (reluctant) fancasts

How do I imagine Cardan and Jude?

MISC. FANDOM SHIT

Bargainer series + opinions on grooming

The Potential Life of Addie Larue (and how it was thwarted by the final chapter)

More TILOAL Analysis

How to Critically Read

Books and Morals

Characters Should Make Mistakes

The SJM Effect

Elain Archeron ship opinions

Book of Night Tour Talk

Book of Night Thoughts- Part 1  |  Part 2

What tipped me off for the Book of Night ending?

STORYTIME/ABOUT ME

The time I spent 24 hours in the woods alone

The time I visited a haunted jail

Classical Music Recs

Book Recs

Fic & Edits Masterlist

[slightlyrebelliouswriter23]

Nicasia's karma was having Cardan–her ex-lover, longtime friend, and arguably the person she cared about most in all of Elfhame–reject her in favour of someone she can't stand. if you think that's not enough, justice does not always work out how we want it to.

what's more, i wonder what you would classify as "torture" and "enslavement". from where i'm standing, Nicasia has done nothing of the sort.

i think it would be beneficial for you to do some reading of other people's interpretations with at least a small effort at understanding them. here are some of mine:

this post

this post

and the above post, of course

and i'm sure there are others by other people floating around out there.

if you've read these clearly analysed posts with actual evidence from the text to support the arguments, rather than subjective personal beliefs, and you are still intent on hating Nicasia, i don't know what else to tell you. you are not going to convince me she is BadTM and i'm clearly incapable of swaying your opinion.

but this is very evidently a pro-Nicasia post. and i would appreciate it if you kept anti-Nicasia sentiments away from it.

Look people are absolutely entitled to their own opinions but I love it when they back up not liking this character for x reasons or being a bad person. Like ?? Jude murdered an immortal fae at the tender age of 18 ??? I mean valerian totally deserved it but just think. In tCP when Jude found out about Taryn lying to her about Locke she made Taryn fight her??? She kidnapped the future high king, enslaved him, poisoned Madoc and fought him, and god knows how much else. Listen we all love Jude but no one can deny that she lacks more than a few morals. I mean from book one she dedicated herself to being worse than the Fae bc she couldn't be better than them. And I also feel like people forget that Nicasia answered Jude's call in QoN to help Cardan when he was in his snake era. No one in this series is a good person and they've all murdered or have been associated with a murder. Except heather and oak, we stan them and their non-existing body count.

tbh, nonnie, you are so right and i hope you say it more.

is it the SJM effect? is it the twitterification of fandom spaces? unclear, but frankly, it bores me.

there's an important discrepancy between "books are for everyone!" and "every book is for everyone" that i think often goes neglected in fandom spaces. while i believe books are for everyone, not every book is for everyone. and just as you must curate your own social media experience by being mindful of your boundaries/who you allow into your space, i'd implore people to use that same discretion in curating their bookshelves.

if you don't like fucked up little guys doing fucked up little things in fucked up little worlds, this series is probably not going to be right for you. as nonnie says, everyone here is terrible.

and we love it.

if you don't like a character because you don't vibe with them, that's fine. but what we should discontinue post-haste, recall like a defective Honda Civic, is this rise in hating characters because they don't act in alignment with your personal morals, while your own fav is sitting on dozens of atrocities.

Jude may well be justified in a few of her kills, but it is incumbent upon me to remind everyone that, not only did she kill Valerian–one of the Gentry with a significant enough title so as to be closely associated with a prince of Faerie–, she also killed a spy. not because that spy had done anything. but because someone told her to. HOURS AFTER SHE KILLED VALERIAN!

and nonnie is absolutely right. Jude tells us herself that she is going to be worse than the fae. "If I cannot be better than them, I will become so much worse." isn't that literally one of the most renowned lines of the series? yet, the same people who scorn minor characters that dare to oppose Jude, conveniently also forget how awful Jude is herself.

and then we have to begin to wonder if it is really about morals at all, and rather more about projecting yourself onto a character while being allowed to exist in wilful ignorance of their flaws, so you don't have to see something ugly in yourself.

Jude knows she is a terrible person. at least give her the credit she deserves.

–Em 🖤🗡

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