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q8qwertyuiop8p · 2 days ago
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There is way worse of an issue with Jilco than it being incestuous, but besides that I agree with this post. But this also applies well to Vanco. Just because Silco puts his arm on Vander's shoulder or they look at each other with love "Vanco is canon" "they are married in the au" seriously?
Silco and Vander see each other as brothers, just as Jinx and Silco see each other as family, it doesn't matter that they aren't related because you don't have to be related to someone to be family. If you don't like that then complain to the writers who confirmed that, not the people who don't ship them or understand that the writers decide what's canon, not the animators. If the animators decide what's canon, by that logic Jilco must also be canon since many animators pushed for it.
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arcane-ish · 3 months ago
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I breaks my brain a little that "Piltover is forced to respect Zaun more when they need them to fight against an enemy from the outside" is actually the less shitty and condescending take compared to the writers potentially actually thinking a long running conflict with HUGE economic interests involved and years of inequality is gonna be solved by "Piltover is so touched over the death of one certain Zaunite child that they feel bad and fix Zaun".
I laugh bitter tears. Like I watched a decent amount of the Politics of League/Arcane vids (like the Skyen one or the Color of Fascism one) and I always thought they were way, way, way, way too optimistic that Arcane was gonna have any interest on really exploring systemic oppression and/or inequality and taking a hard stance on it.
That because there are Piltover characters who have to be portrayed in a positive light, it is BOUND to be some sort of centrist solution.
And yeah, as much "Zaun become ground troupes for Piltover against an imperialist force, tons of their people die and then they give Sevika one seat on the council" was poorly explored and it's kinda shitty, it feels like something roughly analogous to real life dynamics.
While the "Piltover feels so bad about one cute girl dying they get rid of systemic oppression" is such an offensively polyanna outlook on the world (and like grossly infantilizing of Zaun) it's just pukeworthy (and yes I don't think they meant it that way, they probably just thought of it as people should be in awe of Vi's death. But that just makes jack shit sense. Vi is not the first Zaunite child that died. Vi means something to us the viewers and to her relatives, but there's jack shit reason for Piltover to give a shit). And yes there are cases where one sad child picture (Alan Kurdi) changes things, but I would argue you notice they usually don't change for long and not systemically and I feel the "the death of an innocent child instantly leads to the end of a years long conflict" probably feels particularly gross to all the people who are emotionally invested in the Gaza conflict.
That's why I'm just gonna say the writers who supposedly said that are on crack, none of that is stated in the show (ie if Pilties helped so much, wouldn't it make more sense if Mylo and Claggor were working together with Piltover students, or if like let's say Caitlyn was hanging around the Last Drop?) and I'm just gonna pretend it happened not because Pilties spontaneously felt bad about it but because SIlco expertly manipulated public opinion and they combined it with let's say strikes and blockades.
ETA: And there were people seriously thinking that Arcane was taking an ACAB/anti police stance. And instead we have the Jinxer who was personally persecuted by the police donning a uniform, fighting side by side with the enforcers and dying for them.
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indigosaffron · 3 months ago
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Caitvi being endgame was the thing that ruined season 2.
I don't mean that in a homophobic way - I am literally a lesbian and in the first season, I rly liked Caitvi's dynamic. Vi was given a space to heal and a person who helped and cared for her. She didn't need to protect and lead Caitlyn like she did with Jinx, Mylo and Claggor, and as a result we got to see her heal and be vulnerable as she didn't have to be strong for the people she loved. Caitlyn, on the other hand, had grown up sheltered and privileged, and her relationship with Vi allowed her to see the people of Zaun more clearly and encouraged her to help them and set aside her prejudice. This dynamic was also reflected in how the show portrayed the people of Zaun. In the first season, it's very pro-Zaun, pro-revolutionary, anti-fascism, all that.
And then the second season, Caitlyn pulled a complete 180, started acting like a fascist and hating the people of Zaun, and in the end... Vi forgives her.
Is this in character for both of them? Yes, actually. Caitlyn has grown up sheltered and was raised to look down on the people of Zaun, it's very easy for her to just turn back to that way of thinking. Vi is also incredibly dependent and forgiving when it comes to those she loves. We see how hard it is for her to let go of anyone - Vander and Powder are obvious examples. So it isn't strange that she doesn't leave Caitlyn and forgives her in an instant.
Would it have been so much more interesting if Vi didn't forgive her? Yes. A million times yes. I would've loved to see that character growth for Vi, of her establishing that boundary and deciding that she had to leave Caitlyn behind. I'm honestly kind of mad that they gave Jinx so much development and growth throughout the story and Vi has barely changed. Her political beliefs seems to be the biggest thing that has changed, and even those are rooted in the same character traits - first she was fighting for powder, now she's fighting for Caitlyn.
It's not just that I'm mad that they never address how toxic this relationship becomes in season 2. I saw someone else mention how it went from "privileged + oppressed" in s1 to "oppressor + oppressed" in s2 and if that doesn't just sound like literal abuse to you idk what to say. They frame this in the show as a normal relationship - at best, it's both of their faults and their both in a bad place mentally. They never address how horrible Caitlyn acts throughout act 1.
As a result of this, they kind of lose the whole "Piltover is an oppressive force and the people of Zaun should revolt" plot line. Instead it becomes "both sides are bad and in the wrong", just like with Caitvi's relationship. After all, the show can't properly condemn Piltover and yet support Caitlyn at the same time. And if they want Caitlyn and Vi together in a relationship that looks healthy, they have two options - either they address the flaws in the relationship and take the time required to fix them, or they ignore the flaws and pretend it's not a big deal.
They don't have the time in 2 seasons to address those flaws, though, so they decide to ignore them, and in doing so ignore the flaws in Piltover's overall treatment of Zaunites. This creates a contradicting message between the first and second seasons. In the first season, it was obvious that the Zaunites were being mistreated and that they should rise up. In the second season, they suddenly ignore all of that, and instead make the nations unite to face the "bigger problem". I didn't really like the hex tech plot line to begin with because I felt like it distracted from the more important plot line, which was the whole Piltover v Zaun thing, which they completely brushed under the rug.
Maybe this would've been better if they'd had more time to properly flesh out Caitvi's relationship, but as it is, it would've been better if it wasn't endgame at all imo.
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bwat5-blog · 1 month ago
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A Heart Imprisoned: Vi's Time In Stillwater
**Spoilers For All Of Arcane**
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Vi is all of fifteen years old, when she is kidnapped by the Sheriff of Piltover himself and thrown into the bowels of Stillwater prison. There she will spend seven years of horror, isolation, abuse, and fear. Accused of no crime, with her name not even on the record, she has no hope of escape or mercy until the naïve rookie Enforcer who will change her life comes to her cell.
What I want to try and delve into today, is the impact these seven years have on Vi as a person. Vi continues to be one of the most grossly misunderstood characters in this show. Even now I can come up with no logical explanation as to why, but that's okay. I don't think logic plays a big part in the anti-Vi crowd's day-to-day anyway. But! Still we soldier on, and hopefully by the end of this I can illuminate a tragic part of this remarkable character's story in a worthwhile way, and lend even more to the cause of helping see the humanity in her story.
Lead Up:
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I have covered the events of Vi's childhood in heavy detail in other documents. So here, I will just run down a quick list for understanding.
Sees death of birth parents on bridge of progress: Age 9
Spends 6 years as part of family with Powder, Vander, Mylo and Claggor: Age 9 - Age 15
Vander, Mylo and Claggor all die violently in front of her. She barely survives brawl with more than ten armed thugs working for Silco, she is wounded during incident, she is separated from Powder in traumatic manner that leaves her ravaged by guilt.
Imprisoned for seven years until Caitlyn Kiramman frees her: Age 15 - Age 22.
To say Vi's life even before Stillwater has been harsh is a mild understatement to say the least. She begins her story in tragedy. And even though Vander and her siblings love her, the undercity is a hard and dangerous place to grow up. She is not saying things like "wanna see how that ends" to a knife wielding attacker at fifteen years of age because her life has been easy.
We also need to review a few telling things about Vi before her imprisonment to better understand the teenage girl who is sent to Stillwater.
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"When people look up to you, you don't get to be selfish.. whatever happens, its on you"- This lesson of Vander's will come to haunt Vi's life for years. He gives her this speech entirely from a place of love and support, talking to her about being aware of the consequences of her decisions as the other kids look up to her. But when things go so..so wrong. Vi internalizes this to the point that she is unable to move on from the guilt of what occurred.
"I grew up knowing I'm less than them, that my place is down there. I want Powder to have more than that, and I'm willing to fight for it."- Take note of what she says. She doesn't protest that she isn't less than.. only that she wants Powder to have more. Vi tells us so early that she doesn't see more for herself. Only more for those that she loves, and that she is willing to bleed for it. And she will... over and over..
"I know you wanna hurt the topsiders for what they've done to us. But who are you willing to lose?"- Again, another of Vander's lessons that Vi tries to take to heart. it leads her to try and make the right decision to protect those she loves, and through no fault of her own ends with Vander taken, and Benzo and Grayson dead. She tried to stop fighting. Tried to lead with her heart and the world crushed her as a reward.
"You've got a good heart. Don't ever lose it. No matter how the world tries to break you"- See above.
"Take Care of Powder"- Again, this one is tough. Vander's last words to Vi are not of comfort to her, but instructing her. I am NOT bagging on Vander. Had things not gotten even worse Vi would have been the leader of their family now and Vander knew she could do it and was trying to help her be strong. Unfortunately, because things go so terribly, all it is is another source of guilt driving Vi into the dark.
Losing Powder:
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Tragically, Powder in an attempt to save her families life detonates a monkey bomb that kills Mylo and Claggor, and initiates the series of events leading to Vander's death as well. All when they were so close to escape. Powder is a little girl. this is NOT her fault. And she is shocked when she comes around the corner to meet Vi's rage instead of praise...
But as I have stated. Vi was only fifteen and having been through all that she had, lashes out at her little sister. Hitting her, calling her a jinx, and aggressively grabbing her face before walking away in horror at her actions, stolen by Marcus before she can make it right.
Conclusion: So what does that all mean in a nutshell? A fifteen year old girl who has already lived a life of loss, and violence, has her entire family taken away her violently in one night, save for the little sister she feels she has betrayed. She is then thrown in a terrible, hellish prison, with the only thing to focus on being the loss of her family, Vander's lessons, and how she believes she failed him, her brothers, and most importantly, her sister.
"I spent so many nights, in that shitty prison. On the freezing floor, hungry, bloody, counting the hours. The only thing.. the only thing that kept me going was the thought of getting back to you."
In Stillwater:
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Thankfully for all of us who don't hate this character for breathing, we see none of what happens to her while she is in here outright. But there are a few things we know:
She is routinely assaulted- When she and Caitlyn are speaking she says to just send in whoever is going to hurt her so she can get on with her night. The warden confirms this with absolutely zero shame. And when Caitlyn opens Vi's cell, Vi is rolling her shoulders out like she is getting ready to fight.
There is no record of her or her crimes - Marcus locked her up with no trial, no paper trail, no nothing. She would have been kept there forever. Routinely beaten and totally stripped of her identity. Gee, I wonder why she tattooed her name on her face. They tried to erase her from existence.
She isn't in solitary all the time, as she had access to the tattooed goon she keeps wrecking throughout the show- I'd say this is probably the only reason she is at least slightly functional and still able to socialize in the real world to some degree.
A Layman's Understanding Of The Impact On Her:
First and foremost lets dispense with the obvious. I am not a mental health professional of any kind. But as an adult with a basic understanding of people I feel confidant saying that seven years in a violent prison being victimized and assaulted are what leads to the guarded young woman who has turned her body into a weapon that Caitlyn Kiramman meets that day. Cut off from any kindness, or love, or understanding Vi has hardened herself to the outside world because the last time she tried to do otherwise, her entire life was taken from her. And I am not going for the pity points or for dramatics. But she was fifteen... I'm going to guess something akin to her crying for someone to help her, or for her sister and than being viciously beaten is not outside of the realm of possibility. Her entire life has taught her over and over that the only thing she has to offer is her ability to do violence. An article from the University Of Santa Cruz a few years ago gives us more trustworthy information than my blathering:
"many prisoners "believe that unless an inmate can convincingly project an image that conveys the potential for violence, he is likely to be dominated and exploited throughout the duration of his sentence."
"prisoners may come to think of themselves as "the kind of person" who deserves only the degradation and stigma to which they have been subjected while incarcerated."
"For some prisoners, incarceration is so stark and psychologically painful that it represents a form of traumatic stress severe enough to produce post-traumatic stress reactions once released."
The need to keep up walls and hide their vulnerability, the hidden inner belief they are not worth any better, and deep seated trauma even manifesting as PTSD. Sound familiar? Not to mention the fact that is all started for her when she was fifteen and in the wake of a terrible loss.
I have seen many people lambasting Vi over her inability to cope with change or see that her sister has changed. Let me ask you folks a question. You see your entire family die in front of you, you are almost killed, you get thrown in a horrific and violent prison for no reason holding on to the hope of your last surviving family member, and then you get out and the sweet little girl you were ripped away from is a MURDERING. MENTALLY ILL. TERRORIST (Don't yell at me Jinx fans I'm just proving a point). How well do you think your going to cope?
This is just a drop in the bucket and absolutely a layman trying to learn a-little about how something so terrible would impact someone's emotional and mental health. But it was worth exploring. Like the grouchy broken record I am I have continued to proselytize to all of you regarding the humanity at the core of Arcane being its true heart. So the misunderstanding of perhaps the most human character in the show, someone who wants so badly to love, be loved, and to stand for those she cares for, well... Suffice it to say, I will keep playing this song for as long as I need to.
As always thank you for reading! Keep standing up for stories that matter. See ya next time.
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yannisdesk · 3 months ago
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I disagree with the arguments going around that Vander's past was poorly handled in season 2 of act 2, or that it somehow "cheapens" his and Silco's character. This initially was just a paragraph, but it got a little long, so I broke it down.
"Vander and Silco knowing the sisters' mom pre-prologue is bad writing because she didn't know them in season 1." - If Vander and Silco knowing Vi + Jinx's mom pre-prologue is bad writing then that means the bad writing goes back to the very first scene in act 1 season 1. She's shown in the prologue dead after fighting in the battle that Vander orchestrated and led. He clearly recognizes the girls and when they give him that pleading look, he turns in the exact direction that Felicia and Connol's corpse was in, which communicates that he knew exactly who they were and who they were looking for. Their parents and Vander always knew each other, it just wasn't obvious how. Now we know.
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"It makes Silco's character unnecessarily dark." - It really doesn't change Silco's character as much as you'd think. Yeah, it darkens him, but only by like 5% more. Silco throughout all of season 1, especially act 1, is extremely a "do whatever it takes" type. He wanted power, he wanted to free Zaun, and was willing to do some heinous things, some "base violence" to set off the domino effect he desired for his rise to fame. One of the first things we're shown him doing, is using Zaun's children to experiment with shimmer. He has no sentimental ties to anyone but...Vander, and even then we see that it can only go so far. Come act 2 and 3, and he's clearly different, because he raised Jinx. We see Silco post-fallout with Vander. This Silco is simply different from the one we see in the flashback, but there are still shades of him throughout season 1 as we see with his relationship with Jinx, which yes, was extremely messed up, but he did care for her in his own way. Like how the Jinx we see at the beginning of season 1 act 2 is extremely different from Powder - this Silco has been through a lot, and has a completely different outlook. But similar to how Powder is never gone from Jinx, pre-fallout Silco is never fully gone from post-fallout Silco, as he embraces Powder rather quickly. Like Powder, pre-fallout Silco always there, bubbling just beneath the surface. He's just better at drowning out that part of him.
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"It cheapens Vander's anti-violence stance." - No, it doesn't. He could still very much be disturbed by how many Zaunites died during the battle (a lot of his people were lost, just look at the prologue) and draw the line at that, but Felicia's death in particular is what drove the wedge between him and Silco, and that's a separate thing. As we see in season 1, Vander does care about his people beyond his adoptive children. He doesn't say "Okay, everyone but the kids can fight!" No, he straight up says no one will fight. And when push comes to shove, he offers up himself to protect Vi, which was probably coming anyway because he said during the bridge scene in season 1 episode 2 that he didn't know what to do in terms of handling the apartment explosion. So no, Vander caring about the people of Zaun is not all of a sudden tossed out of a window because he cared about a friend who died tragically.
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"It means Vander, Vi, Jinx, Claggor, and Mylo are no longer a found-family."- How? Vander isn't related to Vi or Jinx by blood. Going by the watercolor memory segment, he was a family friend who was active in Vi's life, sure, however that doesn't mean he was some sort of surrogate father to her pre-prologue. He was a trusted adult figure in her life, and he became much more than that once her parents were killed. He became a father to her, Powder, Claggor, and Mylo, who also became their brothers. They were a found family. They never would've developed that dynamic if their bio-families were still around - or at least, not to the extent that it did.
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There are things I could drag act 2 for - namely the pacing and how Vi's character is handled. But, I'm fully behind Vander's lore expansion.
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thewistlingbadger · 4 months ago
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I've never believed that Jinx's real name was powder. To me that does not make much sense. Every other character in the show no matter their importance, has had a name. A REAL name. Powder is not a name. Powder is not even a noun name. It's just a noun. It doesn't make sense to have this character who has this extremely weird name among characters that all have proper/"normal" names. As I thought about this I realized a secret that Arcane uses when it comes to names.
In arcane, names giveaway allegiances. Our main cast from Piltover have proper names. Jayce, Caitlyn. Ambessa, Mel, Marcus, Grayson, etc. Our Zaun cast all have interesting/weird/uncommon names. Silco, sevika, Vander, Ekko, singed, huck, claggor, Mylo, etc. if her name truly is powder then this fits the theme, it's just on the extreme side of weird zaun naming conventions. The name jinx however still fits with the Zaun theme AND makes much more sense.
It's very important to note that these names are not by origin, they are by allegiance. Our two main examples are vi and Viktor.
Viktor is considered to be a normal name hence why he is a part of the pilltover plot line. However his spelling is odd. His name is most commonly spelled as Victor, but his name has a k, adding in that Zaun weirdness factor. Viktor lives in Piltover and has assimilated into their society. Throughout season 1 we see Viktor, we hear him reiterate how he's a Zaunite and how he made hextech to help his city. With each episode we see him stray farther away from Piltover and those ideals. Furball says don't mess with the arcane, kill the hex core, do things safely, and Viktor says no to all of these. He works on the hex core in secret, it ends up killing his friend, and he makes Himself one with the magic. We see him go to singed for help, we see him use shimmer, and this is how he's making distance from Piltover. We don't know his involvement in S2 but we can theorize that he's going to keep making this push back to his roots, back to his true allegiance.
Vi is from the undercity and she has a noun name like jinx (or "powder"), but unlike her sister Vi's name is proper. This hints at Vi's allegiances being with piltover, which checks out with what we see in the show. Vi partners up with Caitlyn, a piltie enforcer. Vi urges Ekko to return the crystal back to Piltover. Vi tells the council about Jinx. Vi works with Jayce to stop shimmer production and silco. Vi ends up becoming an enforcer in season 2. So even though she's historically been pro Zaun and anti Piltover, her name tells us that at the end of the day (season 2) she's actually going to side with Piltover.
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idkwhatimdoingbutslay · 2 years ago
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OH ALSO, i didn't say this in my response to your response but i think what you said about "vi isn't super connected to zaun as a people" is super correct. i don't think vi feels like she really has a place within the system of zaun and piltover. we see her work against the system, outside of it, or even attempt to work WITH it at different points throughout the show. it doesn't seem to matter to her where she stands with respect to the powers that be so long at she's getting what she wants (very similar to vander). so it seems like the author of that other post wants vi to be something she just isn't, some kind of social justice warrior. but vi doesn't believe the system can be changed ("topside and bottom, oil and water, that's all there is") so she doesn't concern herself with it. she's focused on protecting the people she loves.
ironically, OP seems to be somewhat anti-caitlyn, but caitlyn is actually the one who wants to fix the system and believes it can be done. caitlyn is going to be the one to get vi to take part in solving the bigger problems, because she offers vi a new place to belong, not in piltover as part of the system but at caitlyn's side trying to bring the two halves of the city back together.
UGH YEAH!
It’s been said before, but it’s always the Anti-Caitlyns who seem to have closed their eyes and plugged their ears in every single scene with Vi (and of course Cait) in it. The CONSTANT projection is crazy. Again, personal biases making it hard to critically think for people.
Vi is NOT Vander and her beef with Silco is not super similar to the beef Vander had with Silco. Vi is here for the people she loves and the collateral damage and/or improvements is not what she’s concerned about.
Like you said, Vi isn’t as progressive as people think. She was stuck in prison for SEVEN YEARS, abused constantly and beaten down her entire life to keep her in her place. She’s accepted the different positions in society, she just wants Silco GONE and her sister BACK. Not for particularly political/societal reasons, but because her sister is who’s she’s dedicated to and tied her worth to. She wants to go back to before Vander and Claggor and Mylo died, maybe even to before her parents died. She’s never been one to look for a future, but for the past. That’s why her and Cait were rocky in the beginning. Progress was never an option with her. (Idk if this got my point across just yes to what you said already 😭)
Again, you’ve basically said everything, but I really want to amplify the fact that CAITLYN WANTS TO DO AND BE BETTER!!! THATS WHAT SHE WANTS!!! VI WAS THE ONE WHO SAID OIL AND WATER AND CAITLYN WAS THE ONE TO COUNTER IT!!! THEY ONLY EQUATED OIL AND WATER TO THEIR RELATIONSHIP FUTHER INTO THE CONVERSATION, IT WAS ABOUT TOPSIDE AND BOTTOM FIRST!!!!
LIKE UGHHHH!!!! I’ll never understand what people who are anti-Cait want from the story (not to accuse op of being anti-Cait but that’s the vibe from their posts, sorry if that’s isn’t your intention). I WANT Zaun and Piltover to get better, I WANT Piltover to acknowledge their actions and change, I WANT Zaun to finally be respected as a population of LIVING BEINGS!! THATS ALSO WHAT CAITLYN WANTS!!!! THAT WAS HER WHOLE ARC!!!!! Ok, let me calm down.
We want progress don’t we???? Caitlyn is how we’re really going to get it.
Anyway, you’ve literally covered it all. The only person we REALLY see dedicated to the community the way people say Vi is is Ekko. Not even Vander and Silco were truly dedicated to the Undercity as a whole the way he was. Vi hasn’t necessarily really made a statement in the Undercity, Ekko has! Ekko looks at the Undercity as a whole, Vi looks at her loved ones like we’ve stated.
Ummm… yeah that’s it I think. Got my blood pumping there, jeez.
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ao3feed-piltovers-finest · 1 month ago
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Part of the Crew
by MagicSchoolbusDropout08
After mentioning that she wants to be an Enforcer over dinner, Caitlyn is transferred from the Junior Academy to Zaun's only school to discourage her from choosing that path. During her first day, a girl named Vi begrudgingly helps Caitlyn and allows her to sit with her and her siblings, and Caitlyn develops an interest in being their friend (and... maybe (definitely) also develops a tiny (massive) crush on Vi). Despite their reservations, they accept her into their little group, and she fights to be a full part of the crew, through both high school and heists.
(Basically, Vi, Mylo, Claggor, Powder, and Caitlyn at the age they were in S1: Act 1 in high school in Zaun, featuring Caitlyn and Vi having an adorable teenage romance, Vander's kids trying to make Caitlyn into an anti-establishment delinquent (it mostly works), Vander ending up with another kid constantly hanging out in his basement, and the six of them (including Ekko) being chaotic teenagers/kids trying to find their way among a steampunk borderline-dystopia, high school, and their constant shenanigans that happen as a result of them all being chaotic little gremlins.)
Words: 3874, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: Arcane: League of Legends (Cartoon 2021)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Categories: F/F
Characters: Vi (League of Legends), Caitlyn (League of Legends), Jinx (League of Legends), Powder (League of Legends), Claggor (Arcane: League of Legends), Mylo (Arcane: League of Legends), Vander (League of Legends), Ekko (League of Legends), Cassandra Kiramman, Tobias Kiramman, Original Characters
Relationships: Caitlyn/Vi (League of Legends)
Additional Tags: Fluff, Humor, Fluff and Humor, Family Fluff, Mild Hurt/Comfort, Found Family, Alternate Universe - High School, Hijinks & Shenanigans, Robbery, Teen Romance, Sweet, Family Feels, High School, Boxing & Fisticuffs, Shooting Guns, Parkour, Criminal Behavior, Young Vi (League of Legends), Young Caitlyn (League of Legends), Young Jinx (League of Legends), Vander Lives (League of Legends), Mylo Lives (Arcane: League of Legends), Claggor Lives (Arcane: League of Legends), Good Sibling Vi (League of Legends), Protective Vi (League of Legends), Soft Vi (League of Legends), Vi is a Sweetheart (League of Legends), Vi Needs a Hug (League of Legends), Boxer Vi (League of Legends), Dyslexic Vi (League of Legends), Vi Has ADHD (League of Legends), Vi Has Anger Issues (League of Legends), Vi Has PTSD (League of Legends), Caitlyn and Vi are in Love (League of Legends), Soft Caitlyn (League of Legends), Protective Caitlyn (League of Legends), Caitlyn is a Sweetheart (League of Legends), Caitlyn is Trying Her Best (League of Legends), Caitlyn and Jayce are Siblings (League of Legends), Protective Jayce (League of Legends), Protective Viktor (League of Legends), Good Parent Vander (League of Legends), Protective Vander (League of Legends), Vander is Jinx and Vi's Adoptive Parent (League of Legends), Mylo is a Little Shit (Arcane: League of Legends), Mylo Being an Asshole (Arcane: League of Legends), (we love him anyway), Good Sibling Claggor (Arcane: League of Legends), Ekko & Jinx Friendship (League of Legends), Ekko is a Little Shit (League of Legends), Vi is Whipped (League of Legends), Caitlyn is Whipped (League of Legends), Caitlyn is a Gay Mess (League of Legends)
Read on A03. from AO3 works tagged ‘Caitlyn/Vi (League of Legends)’
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fangirlofall · 3 years ago
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Me, watching Arcane as it tries to paint Silco as morally grey instead of evil towards the end because now he cares for Jinx or w/e, despite the fact he literally fucked her up permanently and is the actual, legit reason my boys Claggor and Mylo are dead:
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lbulldesigns · 2 years ago
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Arcane what-if fanfiction brainrot time 😄
So I've been going over ideas in my head for fics that I would like to write or read and one idea has now implanted itself in my mind and refuses to leave, so I'm going to post said idea here please let me know what y'all think ❤️
So the idea I have is a combination of what if Powder never followed Vi and the others, what if Mylo and Claggor lived, what if Silco never raised Jinx, what if Powder/Jinx had a guardian angle (a.k.a storm goddess) on her shoulder amongst her voices, annnnnd Vander is Warwick theory.
This is going to be a doozy to try and summarise, please be patient with me 😅
So a few things first to help me paint the picture:
Powder is younger than she is in Arcane, in the show she's 11 years old, in this story she's 7 1/2 - 8 years old (everyone else, save Ekko whose 2-3 years older than Powder, are the same age as they are in the show).
Janna will at times talk to Powder, Vi just thinks that her little sister has an imaginary friend (when she hears Powder talking back to Janna) but still worries about this. Janna will at times intervene to protect Powder but will otherwise stay as a spectator unless the situation is dire.
Vander is more hands on with Powder because she's much younger than in the show and full heartily views Vander as her dad, and even calls him daddy (she was too young when her parents died and can't remember them or the attack on the bridge, although she still has traumatic responses in regards to their deaths even if she can't remember why) 🥺❤️ (the other kids call him dad as well, but not as much as Powder does).
Ekko's parents are still alive, he works for Benzo because his parents want him to not end up in the factories and mines like him. They end up dying several years into Silco's reign, giving him extra motivation to bring the man down.
Mylo is nicer to Powder but he still tends to lash out at her when he's feeling stressed, the guilt from this is something that will play on his mind for years to come.
Viktor and Jayce will play a big part in Powder's life... after awhile (I'll explain later).
Caitlyn and Powder/Jinx will frenemies and sisters, a real love-hate relationship.
Annnnnnd Timebomb will be one of the main ships. Sorry Lightcannon (I like the ship but Timebomb will feel more organic for this fic and I don't know how to incorporate Lux into the story) not sorry to Jilco and Vi/Jinx shippers, sorry but y'all are weird.
Now for the brief summary.
So the start of the fic plays out much the same as the first three episodes of Arcane, with a few changes here and there to incorporate reactions and actions to Powder's younger age.
For example
Mylo is less antagonistic towards Powder even after she loses the loot but he's still passive aggressive about the whole situation and Powder will still feel immense guilt.
Vander is more angry about Powder being dragged Topside to rob a house and will bring it up in his argument/lecture with Vi, he also brings her along with him to see Benzo and we all get cute little (at this time platonic) Timebomb moment.
Mylo will express worry and frustration about bringing Powder along on the job because she's too young.
And so on.
The story will start to really diverge from the show storyline around the time Vi comes back from the massacre at Benzo's, she takes longer to get back after making sure Ekko got back home safely and in this time Powder falls asleep. And so isn't conscious when Vi gets back and informs everyone what happens, Powder sleeps through all this because kids her age will sleep through anything (I know from experience), and stays asleep when everyone rushes off to save Vander.
Vi fully intends to return and doesn't consider waking her sister just to leave her worrying when they leave, she locks the door behind her so that nobody can get into where her sister is.
Vi and the others get to where their dad is being held but Silco had started injecting Vander with Shimmer and let's him loose on his children but doesn't account for how strong Vander's parental instincts are, and is then left with an enhanced and pissed off Vander tearing through his people.
Vi and the boys, not knowing what else to do, try to fall back to the Last Drop but get apprehended by Enforcers and dragged off to Stillwater.
Annnnnd I feel like this post has gone on long enough already, so please stay tuned for part 2 ✌️😄❤️
Here's a cute Powder to look at as a peace offering ❤️
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goddessofroyalty · 3 years ago
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ZaunFam prompt and/or questions idk~
Could we see when Vander and Silco just took in the girls and first introduced them to their sons?~ Curious how that went~
Also from the confirmed mates to Silco's children, (Jayce, Caitlyn, Ekko) does Silco actually like and approve of Ekko as Powder/Jinx's mate since he's actually from Zaun?~
(P.s. Are Omega/Omega and Alpha/Alpha relationships normal/accepted in this AU?~)
Very-very first meeting between the girls and the boys is below the cut. From Silco's POV though mostly because I think the boys are so sleepy they don't fully realise what's going on until like Day 2 when the girls start slotting into the household routine.
I think Silco likes Ekko best out of the three. But he and Ekko definitively don't see eye-to-eye about a lot of things in terms of how Zaun can be best helped and progressed so... No Politics At The Dinner Table rule continues to apply. But you know Ekko and Jinx have been Partners In Mischief since they were young and Silco has known Ekko for most of the kid's life so he knows he is a good person and will treat Jinx well. So he's fine with it so long a Jinx is happy with it.
(Vander conversely wishes Ekko luck especially seeing Ekko's kind of anti Silco's criminal empire and Jinx is very much a part of that empire)
(Yes. The Arcane universe seems pretty LGBT+ friendly in canon so I don't see any reason to add bigotry into it.)
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The knock at the door wakes Viktor up from where he had fallen asleep against Silco’s side, both waiting for either Vander to come home or the morning light to let them see where the dust had settled. 
Silco puts a finger to his lips before his pup has a chance to make a sound, reaching for where he put his knife down to tend to the wounds he had gotten from the battle he had returned from while the night was still dark.  
They hadn’t gone out looking to make friends and just because Silco had made it home didn’t mean Vander would as well.  
There’s another knock at the door as Silco cautiously approaches.  
“Viktor! Are you awake?” Vander’s voice yells though it and Silco drops the knife in relief.  
He survived.  
Despite all the death of the night they had both survived and made it back home.  
Viktor is grabbing his cane to stand up as Silco swings the door open to get his mate inside.  
He freezes at the sight he’s greeted with.  
“Where are your gloves?” Instead of his heavy gauntlets Silco expected to be on his mate’s hands Vander has two pups in his arms.
Two little girls.  
The eldest of which couldn’t be much older than Claggor.  
“I left them at the bridge,” Vander says.  
“Is that where you found them as well?” Silco asks with a nod at the whimpering pups.  
“Yes.”  
That answered what happened to their parents as well. The bridge had been one of their main targets for the night. And Vander would be rallying medical aid if there was any chance of saving anyone still there.  
The two girls now the latest orphans of Zaun.  
“Viktor,” Silco says, turning to see his son’s wide, worried eyes. “Go make a bed for them.”  
Viktor hurries off to do as instructed. And Silco tries not to think about how easy it could be for the night to have ended with him and their other two pups in the girl’s positions.  
He knows he can’t think things like that.  
They had always known it was a risk. But it was the only option they had to win a better life for them and all the sons and daughters of Zaun.  
Vander puts the girls down onto the booth Silco and Viktor had been waiting for him on. Reaching for the damp cloth that Silco had been using to wipe the grime of the night off himself while he waited for Vander, to start to wipe down the eldest pup’s face. Checking for injuries on the girl’s pale skin he exposes.  
The door to the downstairs of the building creeks open and Silco glances over expecting to see Viktor. Instead it’s their other two pups standing in their sleep clothes in the doorway, Mylo clinging to Claggor like how the younger girl clings to her sister.  
“Who are they?” Claggor asks.  
“They’re just pups,” Vander says. Silco doesn’t know if it is in answer to their son’s questions or a comment on how young the girls are to have had to be exposed to the full brutality of Piltover’s violence. “Only pups.”  
“Oh,” Claggor says as Viktor appears behind them, likely to say the bed had been made up. The girls able to get some sleep even if neither Silco or Vander will until next night now their boys are awake. “Are they gonna’ stay with us now?”  
“Vander?” Silco’s mate had been the one to bring the two girls home so Silco figures it is up to him to decide what will happen with them.  
“Yeah,” Vander says, cupping the eldest of the two pup’s face as gently as he would any of their own. “They’re staying with us.”  
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bomsplode · 3 years ago
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Continued @glitchedknives​
Little giggles burst forth from her mouth, even when they don’t belong. ❝ What’s all this, then? A present? For little old me? ❞ Her hand trails up his arm, dragging over it until multicolored nails land upon the occupied hand. They splay out just to get a chance to touch the knife. Cold steel, though she can feel it upon her throat as well. It pierces her with its chill, peaceful upon her throat otherwise.
Not for long, the shadows mock. He’ll kill you eventually. You’re just a J I N X AND THAT’S ALL YOU’LL EVER--
They stop talking. It’s just to allow Anti to say his piece, confirming all of it, pulling at every insecurity nestled within her chest. Yet her expression refuses to break. Momentary insanity leaves her eyes flicking away from him, but it’s not enough to pull her attention away entirely.
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❝ Would you now? I wonder if they’d be able to tolerate you, ❞ she retorts, a pink tongue poking past her teeth. It wiggles at him and she laughs once more, loving this game they play.
It’s unnamed, much more serious than she gives it credit for, yet she continues to act all the same. Her eyes widen, wild with a broken reality. They’d never been able to hold her world within them, not when it had been shattered years ago.
Her nails dig into his skin (or do they?) and she grins up at him. So wide, so impossibly wide, as eyes widen just the same. ❝ Why would you say that? ❞ The shadows creep closer, looming over them. Over them both. She gasps, head tipping forward into the knife. Pressing closer to it, before going slack against his body once more. ❝ Do you see them? Is that why? Do you... Do you see!? ❞
She wildly gestures to Mylo, with his claws, the look upon his face, his large teeth. Her hand veers in the air, pointing towards Claggor’s mangled corpse instead. It’s alive and they’re alive and they’re here again.
Maybe Anti can understand.
Jinx screams, but it’s not out of fright. Is it just because she can? There’s still a smile on her face, and before she knows it she drops down, lets the knife slice her, and darts out of Anti’s way. 
The shadows seethe, so very upset by her reckless decision. They make a grab for her, but she swats at them with her hand. ❝ Shut up! Shut up, you got it!? I’m not TALKING to you! ❞
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bostoncreamdonut · 2 days ago
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Honestly, I don’t see how this applies to Vanco.
taking everything we see in the show:
Mylo and Claggor have known each other since they were children and were raised together, which is why it’s seen as so brotherly.
Silco raised Jinx since she was a kid, and he calls her his daughter (NOT sister, as he has before when talking about Zaunites in general, so we explicitly know that he sees her as family/his daughter), which is why Jilco is so uncomfortable and icky.
We don’t know what ages Silco and Vander first met or under what circumstances, so there’s nothing to be said about that. Silco and Vander do refer to each other as brother/friend, fair, but we already know given context that brother/sister is a term used to refer to fellow Zaunites.
People interpreting the scene of them together in the alternate timeline as romantic is not that far-fetched, although saying it’s canon from that is silly. But most probably mean it as a joke?
Also, I don’t think anyone gives a fuck what the writers say on character relationships at this point? They gave Vi enforcer trauma to spice up her dynamic with Caitlyn, claimed Viktor was asexual after people started shipping him with Jayce more (as if that means he can’t have romantic relationships), and overall wrote the shittiest, copaganda ass ending to a story about class oppression.
That being said, taking what the writers say with a grain of salt and shipping whatever the fuck lol
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There is way worse of an issue with Jilco than it being incestuous, but besides that I agree with this post. But this also applies well to Vanco. Just because Silco puts his arm on Vander's shoulder or they look at each other with love "Vanco is canon" "they are married in the au" seriously?
Silco and Vander see each other as brothers, just as Jinx and Silco see each other as family, it doesn't matter that they aren't related because you don't have to be related to someone to be family. If you don't like that then complain to the writers who confirmed that, not the people who don't ship them or understand that the writers decide what's canon, not the animators. If the animators decide what's canon, by that logic Jilco must also be canon since many animators pushed for it.
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ao3feed-piltovers-finest · 2 years ago
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Anti Homo
by TheTransCousin09
Okay, now she was certain the whole school was playing a sick prank on her. Caitlyn was in every single one of her classes. And in most of them, she had to sit next to her. Caitlyn would smile a small smile as she approached her at the start of each class and take a seat beside her. In the classes she didn’t sit next to her she sat in the front right by the teacher's desk or the door. And now Vi had no escape from her pretty face.
 Or: Gay CaitVi Highschool AU pining!
Words: 1398, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: Arcane: League of Legends (Cartoon 2021)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: F/F
Characters: Vi (League of Legends), Caitlyn (League of Legends), Claggor (Arcane: League of Legends), Powder (Arcane: League of Legends), Mylo (Arcane: League of Legends), Vander (League of Legends)
Relationships: Caitlyn/Vi (League of Legends)
Additional Tags: Mutual Pining, Useless Lesbians, wingwoman powder, Alternate Universe - High School
from AO3 works tagged 'Caitlyn/Vi (League of Legends)'
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