#anti knuckles the echidna

[gracefuldisasters]

New headcannon

Scourge and Knuckles never meet in the comics, even though he used the Master Emerald to get a power boost, leading to a permanent mutation, etc etc.

So at some point after the prison break, Scourge is living on Mobius since his old team has taken over the anti-dimension,

The M.E has judged him for using it's power recklessly, so he is constantly "leaking" chaos energy, and it's slowly tearing his body apart. Sometimes it gets too overwhelming and causes his scars to reopen. He ends up going to Knuckles to return the excess energy. And although, it doesn't stop the problem 100%, but they've made a monthly routine out of it.

They're not friends, but now he hates Knuckles the least. The chao seem to have taken a liking to him though.But is it because of the chaos energy? Or because maybe deep down he has the potential to be a decent person?

[carnation-damnation]

the star and the moon who were scourged by the sun

[number-one-shadisper-shipper]

Okay interesting detail I just noticed.

Surge is green, the same color as Sonic's eyes.

Kit is blue/teal, the same color as Tails's eyes.

Dunno if that's on purpose but it's interesting.

So I think that if Starline had created an anti-Knuckles, they should be purple, like Knuckles's eyes.

[shroudedwoods]

knuckles is about to beat him up for being ungrateful

The background took 20 years off my life I halfasssed it

[hikingsuper]

I'm actually surprised no one has pick Fleetway Sonic as the worst Sonic since I Know they bitch and moan about how mean he treated Tails.

Next, why is Underground! Eggman the worst? The dude tried to MARRY SONIC'S MOM! That's fucking funny and his good version design is awesome too!

They should have put Satam, that versión of Eggman is as cliché as It gets. Ew.

Also WTF when did this horrible version of Rouge came out? And Bean? Someone tell me where they are because I don't Know their origins.

And finally I belive that 06 Blaze was peak Blaze too even if confusing for some. Idk about rivals! Silver, I only Know He stole from Tails.

That's All.

[happ1may0]

@budgetaus

Siggghhhhhhhh

Gang my frucking Title/Description is from a piece of Scourge art I found that was so funny I couldn’t NOT have it somewhere here blud

I have daily delusion sessions where I spend hours just downloading and looking at (Scourge) art thru Google

Dude I have so much Scourge art it’s actually demented I rhink something is wrong wit me ��

Bruhheirgfhjffbb I have a problem guys (send me more)

[ My wallpaper for my Google account and PC is scurg.. :( ]

AND THIS IS MY PC ALONE TWIN THIS IS NOT COUNTING MY TWO PHONES AND MY CHROMEBOOK

[bunnys-n-stars]

think i might have cooked with this combo

Antis DNI

[bear-boi-5]

My Hear me Out Cake

No I have no regrets

[minie-mastermind]

DC Sonic - Earth 3 / Anti Mobius

Sonic / Flash counterpart would be Scourge / Johnny Quick. Being more like Evil Sonic instead of scourge he would be more of a basic bully and impulsively following his own whims.

Tails / Cyborg counterpart would be Miles Prower / Grid. After deconstructing Dr. Kintobor's technology he would finally be able to overpower his bullies. From there he would start incorporating it into himself, becoming obsessed with power and joining the Crime Syndicate for a chance to try and manipulate them.

Knuckles / Superman counterpart would be O'Nux / Ultraman. The echidna's Society along with the Master Emerald would have been destroyed, being the last survivor he would hunt down the shards of the Master Emerald to empower himself.

Amy Rose / Wonder Woman counterpart from the previous pattern should be Rosie The Rascal / Superwoman. This won't work though since Lois Lane is superwoman and not Diana Prince in most versions of Earth 3. Not to mention given superwoman's love triangle with Owlman and Ultraman it makes more sense for it to be Rogue The Bat / Superwoman. Given Rosie The Rascal backstory it would actually make more sense for her to be a twisted version of Mary Marvel.

Silver / Green Lantern only having a DC counterpart in Power Ring without a direct counterpart on Anti Mobius. From the Power Rings origin now it may have been given to him by his universe's version of Blaze. Instead having the spirit of Volthoom inside the ring it would have Mephiles who would have pushed him to travel back in time.

Shadow / Batman only having a DC counterpart in Owlman without a direct counterpart on Anti Mobius. Owlman is not actually Bruce Wayne he is Thomas Wayne Jr, Bruce's secret older brother. Shadow does have an older relation that was kept secret as well, the Biolizard. The silver of the outfit would be his life support along with armor. Instead of being too dangerous to contain he would have stayed under control long enough to kill everyone on the Ark before descending the Earth.

[neomikayla]

You can't name any other franchise where you have to deal with this shit

[madychi]

Decided to redesign the Anti’s my way (and make them for IDW cuz why not?)

[flingmetothemoon]

Unpopular hot takes incoming

The more I think about this as an Amy, Rouge, and (Especially huge one for her) Tikal fan, the more I think Knuckles is just an overall pointless, needless and easily replaceable character for 90% of the plotlines. (Sorry Knuckles fans) I think the only real reason Knuckles even existed in the first place is to serve as a plot device to foreshadow the ancient Echidna Clan — Who in turn plays a big and important role in how Angel Island came about and highlights the important roles the Master Emerald and the Chaos Emeralds plays as the world's most important power sources in the Sonic series and the CHAOTIC consequences of misusing their powers for selfish purposes — And to show that echidnas still exists in the present day and you know what? His purpose made sense and worked at that time. But now that his purpose has finished, it's time to let someone else have a chance to shine.

I think a great character who can carry Knuckles' torch is someone who is also an echidna and in touch with the Master Emerald LONG before he was, yet has more reason to take the Master Emerald seriously and could use new friends and adventures after everything she's been through and probably would've made a better Chaos Energy sensor and Emerald Shard hunter considering she and Chaos were sealed in the Emerald for 5,000+ years! (Imagine the amount of chaos energy that would've been absorbed in them for that long) Of course the character I'm talking about is none other than Tikal. (And no, just because she was unconscious in the Emerald for that long and now has spiritual powers doesn't mean she's now a dead ghost. I mean is Shadow a dead ghost too just because he was unconscious in a capsule for 50 years and can use new powers? XD)

And another unpopular opinion I have regarding Knuckles is I think the ship between him and Rouge — Quite bluntly — NEEDS TO DIE ALREADY! Even in my younger years, I've never found the thought of Knuckles and Rouge being a ship appealing because Knuckles and Rouge were intended to have a rival dynamic like Sonic/Shadow and Tails/Eggman and I think it works better that way because you can think of more creative ways to play with their respective character traits and abilities when thinking of a fanfic story of Rouge trying out creative sneaky ways to steal the M.E. and Knuckles fighting her to get it back, if there was no cheesy friendly lovey feelings between them going on, it would be easier to see their raw combat on full display without them worrying about "Oh no but s/he's so cute and hot, what if I hurt him/er too hard? :C". Don't forget to mention that their lifestyles and moral values are almost vastly incompatible to make them work as an actual long-term couple beyond just short-term embarrassing flirting. Knuckles is a Master Emerald guardian just learning about his ancestry and Rouge is a "treasure hunter" (Which I think is just her sugarcoated way of referring herself as a jewel thief XD) and a double agent for Eggman and the president.

But yeah, even as a rivalry, I could think of other rivalries Rouge would have I personally would find more interesting and engaging with basis beyond just physical prowess and the Master Emerald, so thanks for bringing up the Amy/Rouge parallels and how Rouge is in a sense the dark equivalent of "The Heart"! (If the hearts in her design and bombs and stuff aren't obvious enough) But I also came up with a Rouge/Tikal (And Chaos to a degree) rivalry as I believe would make an excellent challenge for their values they stand for. For these two, Rouge is like Pachacamac, but serves as an even bigger challenge because she's more stealthier, more outwardly attractive, and better at putting up an innocent front to throw them off guard. For Rouge, she gets to meet someone who's actually seen with their own eyes the serious consequences of stealing superpower gems out of greed. On the other hand, that rivalry can also highlight how Rouge is different from Pachacamac: She is not maliciously evil and perhaps that could leave room to go into detail on why — Out of all of the pretty shiny gems in the world — Does Rouge specifically come after the M.E. and the Chaos Emeralds. Maybe she wants to be it's guardian and is jealous of Knuckles because he's already one. Maybe Shadow's sacrifice touched her heart and inspired her to use the Emeralds to protect those she cares about — Not for her own selfish desires.

But what do I know? I'm not a corporate slave, so I guess I'm just too dumb to understand how Knuckles + Classic Trio are actually so based and why money + nostalgia trumps storytelling.

Knuckles is a Protagonist in Sonic Adventure 2, but why?

So I’ve asked this before, but I’ve never understood Knuckles’ role in Sonic Adventure 2. He is set up as a protagonist (read we see his story and point of view) but his story doesn’t tie into the narrative at all or even serve a purpose for him as a character. Now why do I say that? Well, lets’s look at the story of the game and then Knuckles’ story.

Sonic Adventure 2′s story focuses on the Legacy of Gerald and how it affects the characters. Sonic is affected by his similarity to Shadow and eventually Eggman threatening the world. Tails and Amy are Sonic’s friends who care for him most and get involved with Tails in the long running understanding Eggman more as a scientist, and Amy revealing before anyone else that Shadow is not as ruthless as he appears due to him not breaking out of her hug, something he hasn’t experienced since before the Ark was raided. On the villain side you have Eggman trying to exploit his grandfather’s research and learning secrets about him he never knew which makes him reflect on himself. Shadow is obviously a character trying to fulfill his duty while facing his role both in the story and the conflict of his love for Maria and how that all ties into Gerald’s plan to destroy the world in revenge. Then you have Rouge who’s primary purpose is to tie the government conspiracy instigated by G.U.N together and question Shadow’s existence and purpose while also playing Eggman in case he get’s too dangerous. But what a bout Knuckles?

Well, first thing to take note of is he isn’t even mentioned above at all which should get your attention if you remember the game. His story begins with him breaking the Master Emerald to prevent Eggman from stealing and he soon finds himself competing with Rouge to collect the shards. By the end of the game once it’s restored he uses it’s power to stop the Ark’s final descent to Earth and saves the world. It’s all pretty awesome, except for the small detail that none of it happened.

Now I know that line will probably miff a number of Knuckles fans, especially since it obviously happened and we played it. But the thing is, Knuckles roles are all met with indifference in the main plot. The big revelation in his story that Rouge is good is defeated just by playing the villain side which you are supposed to do anyway which reveals that she is fundamentally good despite her moral failings when you discover she is there for the benefit of the world and stopping Eggman’s latest scheme while also uncovering for the president just how deep G.U.Ns corruption runs and the whole Gerald conspiracy. Her act of charity to Knuckles showing that she is good isn’t necessary and is completely superfluous in the Dark Story. Even her love of Gems is all ready covered in Security Hall making Knuckles’ interactions with her valueless and redundant. So what about Eggman and stealing the Master Emerald? Same thing, but worse. From Eggman’s point of view it never even happens. His entire story is digging up his grandfather’s legacy for his own ends and he never interacts with Knuckles until the final story. In other words, the starting point for Knuckles’ story never happens in Sonic Adventure 2′s plot. that’s absurd.

Obviously though Knuckles’ role in the finale still has to be addressed. If he wasn’t there to cancel out the power of the Chaos Emeralds then they couldn’t have stopped the planetary drop of the Ark. The problem there is that Knuckle’s action is immediately canceled and made a complete waste, nor is it a natural conclusion to his story in the game. He goes through everything he does, and does not reflect anywhere without being invalidated within the actual plot. if he was removed from the game the main narrative would not suffer for it in the least. And since his story does nothing for his character or any other either there is nothing lost for him in the end either.

So yes, as Knuckles has his own story in Sonic Adventure 2 which is about him and his POV he is a protagonist of Sonic Adventure 2. That is a fact and cannot be disputed. However, as the main plot has no bearing on his point of view and his POV has no bearing on the plot or other characters I have to ask a very simple question; why is Knuckles a protagonist of Sonic Adventure 2 if the his story and the Main story both do nothing for him and he does nothing for the other? I’ve asked it before and been told that supposedly Shiro Maekawa had always intended Knuckles to be one of the game’s protagonist, but his role as the game is presented provides no answers as to why. The fact that he can be removed and the only thing that needs to change is why the Bio Lizard warps outside of the Ark speaks volumes about how unnecessary he is. As a result I just can’t see it. Why is he one of Sonic Adventure 2′s protagonist? His story is useless to both him and the plot. If not for the end of Heroes further tying Rouge and Knuckles together he doesn’t even get new characters to interact with and expand his character. Of course as that was only really explored in Sonic X rather than the games even that does nothing for Knuckles in the end. He serves no purpose in Sonic Adventure 2 and really should have never been left in when the finalized story had no meaningful use or interaction with him. Yet, he is in the game, and he is one of the game’s protagonist and I am still baffled by it to this day.

[carnation-damnation]

Ooooops, didn't post this haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Anti-Knux design! I named him Claws! Some info under the cut

Scourge was Claws's best friend. He was the first person Claws met outside of Angel Island, and after betraying Claws and misusing the Master Emerald, Claws put up impenetrable walls that he hides his feelings and motivation behind. Claws has a shattered sense of justice, becoming even more of a recluse than he was before and has sworn to Scourge that if he ever came back, it'd be the last thing he'd ever do.

[crusherthedoctor]

me: *sees preview page for next idw issue*

...where's Knuckles... you have the idw ocs and a random koala, but no Knuckles?

Also... Tangle's team has four team members since Mimic is there. If that's the case and you can have four team members, Knuckles' absence here stings even more.

I think someone in the crew might actually have a problem with Knuckles.

I know he's not in Stellar either, but that's because I'm insistent on only using characters who I can give a meaty role that isn't limited to one isolated highlight at most, rather than inserting everyone for the sake of it and making the same mistake as '06, or having a plot where only one character truly shines like Black Knight.

Same reason why Blaze isn't present. Or Omega. I love those two, but if there's no justified reason for them to be there other than out of obligation, then I must draw a line in the sand for my work.

[hikingsuper]

You should have read Sonic The Comic. Knuckles has stories that actually Focus on him!

Read STC and don't give me excuses that you don't Know where to find It! It's on Google now! >:(

Dude Sonic is Adventures, action and other stuff! So seeing Knuckles fight Eggman or fang would be Exciting! It's on the premiun of the comic!

What about Tails? Did you forget he Exits?

Also the tribe of sungazers was wiped out, go play Superstars!

[happ1may0]

Guys I just finished!!!!!!!!!!

@budgetaus now I can find my little skrunklies when I need them!!!! 😍😍😍🥰🥰😝😝