#anti king magnifico

[dani-luminae]

When asha says "the wishes don't belong to him" she is saying that they don't belong to him FOREVER, and that is so heavily implied that if you don't get that then it's because you don't what to get it, if you want your wish back after you learn that your precious perfect king will not granted it then you should have it back.

Exactly, anon. They're only given under the assumption that the wishes will be granted, that's the implied agreement between the people and Magnifico. Like yes, perhaps he gets to borrow them, because the people fully anticipate that their wish will be returned and granted.

But if he doesn't keep his end of the agreement - if he decides the wish will never be granted - then the wish belongs with the person who made it. Even Asha never argues this. She never demands Magnifico use his magic to grant every wish. It's one of the few things that she and Magnifico do agree on. The issue is that he doesn't give them back, and he lies by omission to his people when he doesn't mention "oh btw, 95 percent of your wishes never actually will be granted... oopsies! Sorry!"

And that's when "borrowed" turns to "stolen."

And the only reason no one's asked for their wish back yet is because they don't even remember the wish. They're just wandering through their lives literally missing a part of themselves, sure that if they just wait long enough, that piece will be given back to them.

[officialprincessasha]

I honestly have a serious question for everyone in the Wish Fandom

Why is their so much hatred?

Anti Magnifico

Anti Star

Anti Ashas

Honestly why? Why all the hatred why Magnifico Is better then Asha?

Or Asha Is better then Magnifico?

Seriously, I want to know. It's a movie fast-paced, in my opinion, but it's a movie. Why can't we all get along?

Comment or DM I'm not any anyone or anything. I just wanted a fandom to be a part of

[cosmicwishingwell]

Yeah the other reasons why King Magnifico is a villain are valid but to me the biggest reason why magnifico is the villain is because he actually has a book of nothing but evil magic, and yes its "forbidden" but not to magnifico he can use it when ever he feels like, no one was forcing magnifico to have that book but him, he chose to have and use it knowing it can only do evil and nothing but evil, if you allow a demon to possess you to do evil things then you are evil.

You bring up an important point about Magnifico’s villainy that often gets overlooked—his deliberate choice to keep and use the book of evil magic. It’s not just the fact that he possesses the book, but the deeper implication that he actively chooses to engage with something that is forbidden and inherently dangerous. The book is full of dark spells and curses, things that can cause nothing but harm. While it may be “forbidden” in the general sense, that restriction clearly doesn’t apply to him, and that’s where the true danger lies.

What’s particularly telling is that no one forces him to keep this book. He could have easily destroyed it or locked it away where it would never see the light of day, but instead, he chose to keep it close, ready to use whenever he sees fit. That’s not a decision someone makes lightly, and it speaks volumes about his character. This isn’t a case of someone being tempted by dark forces beyond their control. Magnifico has full agency in this situation, and he’s making a conscious decision to keep evil at his fingertips. That alone makes him dangerous, because he’s shown he’s willing to use those powers when it benefits him.

The idea of him having a tool for nothing but evil is what cements his role as a villain. It’s like willingly letting a demon into your life, knowing it will lead to destruction and harm, but embracing that for your own selfish reasons. Magnifico isn’t a victim of dark magic—he’s an active participant. That level of awareness and control over his actions is what separates him from a mere antagonist to a full-blown villain. He knows the consequences of his actions, understands the power he wields, and still chooses to indulge in it. And like you said, that conscious decision is key. If you invite evil in and allow it to take root in your life, that makes you responsible for the havoc it wreaks.

In this way, Magnifico becomes a very intentional kind of villain. He doesn’t stumble into darkness; he walks right into it, eyes wide open. And that is perhaps the most frightening aspect of his character. His ability to choose differently, but his consistent decision to embrace evil, makes him all the more dangerous. It’s not just about having a forbidden book—it's the knowledge that he could do otherwise and still doesn’t. That’s what makes him the true villain in the story.

[angelicheaven12]

I will made controversial opinion that magnifico Stan is exactly similar to stolas Stan especially no offense because they will justifying his every action even babying him, I dared say it I'm already tired of magnifico stan, they will kinds person whom most likely defending capitalism and patriarchy society and mark my words on that, I'm also reading loads book about Marxism and feminism

[ultraericthered]

Whitewash Fit For A King

Somewhat related to the post I just made.

It's quite ironic given King Magnifico's cult leader-like status in the film that there exists a small but still sizeable (for this site at least) amount of Wish viewers who make up a cult following of Magnifico stans. And when I say this, I mean they're all that kind of villain stan.

Oh no no no no no...

Yeah, it partially gives me more cause to resent the filmmakers of Wish including both scenes with the burnt tapestry of Magnifico's sad childhood trauma-related past that spurred him towards creating his kingdom in the final cut ("If only I'd known magic back then...", "so THAT doesn't happen again!"), but at the same time, I feel like even without those moments, these people would've found some way of woobifying and saintifying the character and act as apologists for his villainy. After all, this has happened with virtually every fictional villain in existence in the history of ever. These kinds of stupid, immature simps who don't want to look in the eye the reality that their faves are problematic to the point of being literal evil villains have always existed, and a character like Magnifico is hardly the most perplexing case of this. I recall long ago reading the opinion pieces of someone who was an apologist for Scar from The Lion King, trying to paint him as a lifelong victim and Mufasa as the real villain (can't wait for the upcoming Mufasa movie to re-ignite THOSE takes!). On Xitter I once came upon someone who actually simped for and woobified fucking Ghetsis from Pokemon, projecting all sorts of mental illness and disabilities onto him while insisting that the character had some redeemability that has never once been shown to exist in canon. Even on here, there are people who stan Phillip Wittebane/Emperor Belos from The Owl House, to the point where they maliciously trivialize the religious trauma that Dana Terrace had to grow up with so that they can act like she's petty for "vilifying" the literal villain of her own goddamn story. And I don't even need to get started on the "Magneto Is Never Wrong" subgenre of villain apologism that you can find all over social media. These stans are all absolutely koo-koo!

I've seen this whitewashing/apologism garbage for villains spewed out ad nauseum and the Magnifico simps all sound the same as what I've seen out of those other villain simps - "He deserved better, he wasn't at fault for his mental downward spiral that Asha, the citizens of Rosas, and even his wife drove him to, how dare Disney vilify the mentally ill and victims of trauma like this, blah blah blah blah." And yet there was still one in particular with takes that made me go:

To be specific, it was the very same "Rainbow the Clown" take that this post gave a mention to. The person in question felt the need to mention that they're a Christian (and I hate that in the Trump era, that has become almost a red flag for me), and that as such, they believe that all black magic/dark magic has demonic roots and that they can recognize a demonic possession when they see one. Their interpretation of the film's events, which had absolutely zero basis in anything that was made the least bit explicit in the film itself, was that Magnifico reading from the tome of forbidden magic gave some anonymous demonic entity that progenerated that magic access into Magnifico's soul, mind, and body, and it overtook him. Therefore, everything Magnifico went on to do cannot be blamed on Magnifico himself, as he was "possessed" at the time, not in his right state of mind and not truly aware of the reality around him anymore. And this is why it was so cruel that he ended up punished rather than saved.

Yeah, about that. In the actual movie, there's zero mention of demons or otherworldly entities tied to that spellbook. The black magic itself that is conjured out from the book once the pages are read from and is able to make the spells and curses described within the book work is its own natural force. Its capabilities are destructive and once it bonds with its caster, it poisons their mind with an unbreakable addiction to using it, so that's why it was considered "forbidden" to start with. Magnifico unseals the tome and reads from its pages during his grievance-laden villain song, and we see this:

The magic comes out like green arms or ropes that coil around both of Magnifico's hands, and once they do, we see that green magic juice flow right inside of Magnifico, which briefly makes his eyes glow green as well. This is not "possession" - this is amalgamation. This magic binds itself to Magnifico like a symbiote, and in turn Magnifico is one with the magic now, committed to wielding it and making it manifest as awesome power to service his whims and desires. The literal next thing that happens after is the green fading from the king's eyes as he goes "Where was I? Oh yeah." After the process has be done, he shakes it off and resumes his singing, only now with the green dark magic at his disposal to freely use however he pleases. The magic and the destabilizing effect it has on Magnifico's mental state as he uses it to break and ingest magically contained wishes was not the cause of his turn to evil: it was the consequence of it.

And let's say that the book did contain a demonic entity that made the magic happen and it went into Magnifico to influence him from within a la Myotismon with Yukio Oikawa. It was still Magnifico's own damn fault because he chose to go back on his word to his wife and open up the forbidden book. He's no more absolved of calling out the demon than Mok Swagger is for deliberately summoning a demon to devour his own concertgoers. And no, "but he's just so traumatized!", "he's mentally ill with anxiety issues and was having a breakdown!", or "Asha and those selfish, ungrateful citizens drove him to it!" don't erase Magnifico's agency and capacity for making choices that he did, even in a limited time, think through and decided to go for it anyway. I'm not into the discourse over whether or not Magnifico could be redeemed or if he "deserved redemption" or not, but if you'd like to see a character's redemption, they need to have done some unjustifiable wrongs or else there's nothing to "redeem" them for!

(There was another Magnifico cultist who was a little more on point and likened the book and its magic to a substance abuse metaphor, drawing parallels between Magnifico and the character of Jack Torrance from Stephen King's The Shining. But they specifically paralleled his situation with King's Jack Torrance, when in the actual canonical narrative of the actual movie, Magnifico is Kubrick's Jack Torrance - the alcohol addiction isn't there to draw his inner demons back out so that a demonic entity can better use him and ultimately possess him, it's there to reveal who he always truly was deep down, which is what he becomes when he discards anything and everything in him that beforehand was reigning him in and holding him back.)

Another argument for the demonic possession theory? This part here in the climax, cited as the moment the entity was exorcised from Magnifico, leaving him confused and afraid of what he awoke to find himself currently facing before getting oh so wrongfully imprisoned.

....Folks, that's literally Sakina's wish, the first wish he broke and absorbed into himself through use of his newly acquired dark magic, coming back out from him. The green glow is there because, as just stated, it was that green dark magic that was used to eat the wishes in the first place. The green eyes and green glow fade from Magnifico to signify his power weakening. All the wishes that he absorbed after Sakina's come out from him following this. And if he'd really snapped out of a possession and was back to being his true "good" self at that point, why would the first thing out of his mouth be "NO! THOSE ARE MY WISHES!"? And if the demonic dark magic entity was gone, then where do the green magic hands that drag Magnifico into the tip of his scepter come from? The magic did not leave him because it cannot leave him; it's a part of him, he's a part of it. Reading from the pages of that book even once made him committed to the magic. It's a symbiotic bond and there's no breaking it. That was the point!

Last argument for this crackpot idea I saw from this person was that "high on green-colored dark magic" Magnifico cannot possibly be a valid representation of the king's true character because....his face when we first met him looked so handsome and kind! Look at him!

It's the same ol' "Hans' Twist Villain reveal was bullshit because he was not set up like a villain at any point beforehand, meaning he was not a villain until that very moment, and we can tell this because he never LOOKED evil!" argument, the one that usually relied on a single moment of Hans giving a sweet looking yet condescendingly fond and amused grin to himself after having met Anna that ignores all context, and is based on the idea that only cartoon caricatures of delightfully foul and obvious evilness have to exist to play the villain in place of realistic people in a Disney animated movie, as in real life, evil people aren't easy to identify just by looking at them. The thing is that some Disney villains, arguably all the way back to the likes of Stromboli and the Coachman in Pinocchio, serve as reflections of the dangers of people that have existed and still do exist in the world. King Magnifico is that for the covert narcissist in a position of authority that they're prone to abuse. Yeah, he won't always have EVIL BASTARD written all over his face, but there's context for why that is. In that first image, he's just talking to another person when that person is applying for a job working for him, and as such he plays the part of the kind, charming, generous and benevolent king. In the second image, he's looking at the wishes. The beauty within those magic wish orbs and the splendor their magic gives off make him very happy; that's part of why he hoards as many as possible.

That is King Magnifico.

^ And THAT is ALSO King Magnifico.

He's a villain. He visibly enjoys being a villain. He is valid as a villain. Let villains be villains and love them for that, dammit!

[ultraericthered]

Understandable points. But.... (yeah, go back to what I said here.)

Now that is a VERY good point. There really was no reasonably good answer Magnifico could give to "why not just give back the wishes you've ruled out granting with your magic?" other than "yeah, I should do that, shouldn't I?" Because if Sabino has the wish back in his heart, thus the memory of what it was to begin with, he can just try composing a song to play on his lute in a way that's harmless and doesn't require any magic that could potentially backfire on Rosas. So the response Magnifico gave was ultimately just deflection.

people saying magnifico was right in not wanting to grant sabino’s wish because it is too vague, but this doesn’t prove he’s not a villain, it just proves he has a logic, which works with his character because he’s the ANTAGONIST.

it’s like saying frollo’s not a villain because he’s right about quasimodo being mocked if he went outside. so he’s not a villain for having him isolated from the rest of the world?

Yep but i really don't believe that "vagueness" thing all that much in the way others do...like the thing is that King Magnifico doesn't see any good in inspiration, the way he immediately thought "inspiration=terrorism" is a big red flag, he doesn't want people to feel inspired to pursue their dreams themselves because then they will ask for their wishes back aka an "mob that would destroy all of roses!?" And when asha, someone who knows sabino all her life, tries to tell magnifico that "no you are wrong about my saba, he would never do anything to hurt anyone" magnifico actually calls her stupid by saying "your young, you don't know anything really" And then after that magnifico proves again that he really just doesn't want people to have their wishes when asha ask "can't you just give them back instead?" He basically just says that people come to him because they know they can't make it come true themselves so he makes them forget about their wish and keeps it forever without them knowing it will never come true.

[tamlindudley]

Guys.

I found Rhysand.

[doverstar]

shoutout to Disney's Wish (2023) for completely spitting on the idea that wives help their husbands. like even if the pointy queen couldn't convince Chris Pine to turn good, you could have at least given us the evil power couple in the concept art

[simpofhans]

My female rage screams from happiness ^^

Amaya deserves better than the literal abuser, ANYONE BETTER THAN HIM T_T

[officialprincessasha]

I like how I can be anti Magnifico and other things on this blog, but on my other blog, AntiCedfiaWeek, I get tore apart. The ship is from Sofia the First Cedric x Princess Sofia, but it's a map ship of a pedophilic ship. I'm just saying.

[cosmicwishingwell]

Why King Magnifico Isn't the Hero in Disney's "Wish"

While some viewers might be initially charmed by King Magnifico's flamboyant persona and supposed benevolence in Disney's "Wish," a closer look reveals a character driven by a lust for power and control. Here's a breakdown of why Magnifico's actions paint him as the film's true villain:

* **The Tyranny of Benevolence:** Magnifico's core act of villainy lies in his monopoly on wishes. He hoards them for himself under the guise of safeguarding the kingdom. This creates a system of dependence where his subjects are stripped of their agency and ability to improve their lives directly. Magnifico becomes the sole arbiter of their happiness, fostering a culture of fear and obligation rather than genuine care.

* **Fabricated Threats and the Power of Perception:** Magnifico justifies his actions by alluding to a vague past threat. There's no concrete evidence of this danger, suggesting he uses fear as a tool to manipulate his subjects. This tactic keeps them compliant and reinforces the idea that they need his protection, further solidifying his control.

* **Moral Corruption and the Hunger for Power:** Magnifico's obsession transcends a genuine desire for the kingdom's well-being. His actions are driven by a hunger for power for power's sake. The possession of a forbidden magic book hints at a darker ambition, a desire for absolute control that goes far beyond simply granting well-intentioned wishes.

* **Manipulation and the Silencing of Dissent:** Magnifico controls the narrative surrounding wishes. He dictates how they are used and reinforces the belief that the people are incapable of handling them themselves. He dismisses Asha's concerns about the potential consequences of his actions, unwilling to consider alternative solutions or relinquish his hold on power.

* **Apathy Towards Individuality:** Magnifico's actions paint a picture of a ruler who prioritizes control over the well-being of his people. He stifles individuality by denying them the chance to experience the power of shaping their own destinies. This fosters a stagnant and submissive society.

**Addressing Counterarguments:**

There might be arguments that unfettered wishes could lead to chaos. However, the film doesn't explore the concept of responsible wish-making. Magnifico simply denies everyone the chance to experience it, fostering a system of fear and dependence. "Wish" presents a clear distinction between Magnifico's oppressive rule and Asha's desire for a world where individuals have the power and responsibility to shape their own lives, even if it comes with potential risks. The film ultimately argues that freedom and agency, even with their inherent challenges, are far preferable to the stifling control wielded by a power-hungry ruler like King Magnifico.

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

I’m no stranger to bad Disney villain discourse, but “King Magnifico was actually a good person” is really up there. The man is an absolute monarch who surgically removes his citizens’ ability to question his authority the instant they become adults and then only gives it back after carefully auditing them for any potential rebellious tendencies. “Sorry Asha, your dad wanted to play the lute and inspire the younger generation but what might he inspire them to? Greed? Envy? Democracy?” Oceania wishes it had what Magnifico has, Rosas is a horrific dystopia with a pretty theme song.

[ultraericthered]

For different reasons, Magnifico and John Smith deserve to be smacked down into walls by a bunch of characters (and funnily enough, the historical John Smith as a person had more in common with Magnifico than with Disney's John Smith.)

For how many crossover games where Disney characters fight together, when are we ever gonna get a Smash clone where they beat the shit out of each other?

i want tiana to throw j-hn sm-th into a WALL

[ultraericthered]

So, in this last decade.....

Disney Animated Canon entries with Twist Villains:

Disney Animated Canon entries with Unconventional Antagonists:

Disney Animated Canon entry with a straight-up main villain:

[themattress]

The Problem with King Magnifico

King Magnifico is the best part of Disney's Wish. He's got a sleek design, the most fun animation, and Chris Pine does a fantastic job hamming it up as a classic-style Disney villain.

With that said, he's a good villain, but fails to be a great one.

At first, I thought this was mainly because of all the Member Berries; as the movie goes on he increasingly starts aping past Disney villains which kind of makes him lose his unique identity. However, I've now realized that there's a deeper reason, which lies in comparison to Dreamworks' superior Wishing Star movie, Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, and its villains:

For some reason, the writers of Wish tried to push King Magnifico into all three categories, and it just doesn't work. It is possible for a Sympathetic Villain to develop into a Serious, Scary Villain or for an Unsympathetic Villain to develop into a Serious, Scary Villain. But it is exceedingly difficult, if not downright impossible, to blend or have a transition with a Sympathetic Villain and an Unsympathetic Villain, because that creates way too much of a dissonance. This is where Magnifico was fumbled: before his turn to a Serious, Scary Villain they try to have it both ways, setting him up as sympathetic due to his backstory, seemingly genuine desire to do right by his kingdom even if the way he does it is misguided, and the love he shares with his wife, only to also have him unsympathetic by depicting him as a petty, petulant, thick-headed narcissistic douchebag. This results in confusion in his motivation for why he is doing what he does during the first half of the movie or why he turns to the forbidden magic that drives him mad with power, and also makes it unclear whether we are supposed to see his final fate as a tragedy or a case of him getting what he deserves.

It's very obvious from The Art of Wish that King Magnifico got changed in development. The earliest drafts clearly had him as a humanized villain who starts off sympathetic but goes off the deep end into irredeemable evil; his initial altruistic goals having given way to him just wanting to play God. There's no indication that the forbidden magic was originally going to have any effect on his mental state at all; the fact that he would even use it was simply meant to be his crossing of the Moral Event Horizon, showing that he would rather destroy his kingdom than let anyone or anything other than him have control over it. But the perceived need for Member Berries took a toll on the character, and thus he ended up undercooked.

...Still better cooked than anyone else in the film, though! Go see it for him, people!

[thornvault]

WELL someone made me watch Wish for the third time and I can no longer fight it. I want this man.

Here's a sideblog to drag people down with me.

Listen man he's hot and traumatized I never had a chance. I've always been weak for fucked up little dilfs 😔 disney knew what they were doing fr. I could fix him. Let me at him.

Hoping to get a chance to shamelessly OCpost on here bc my baby Kali is gonna kiss him so much (threat). I'm not interested in any drama btw. I don't care. I'm too old for that stuff just let me enjoy my old man in peace. Friends are always welcome, I love talking about OCs!! (Please talk to me about OCs oh my god)