#anti king magnifico

[officialprincessasha]

I honestly have a serious question for everyone in the Wish Fandom

Why is their so much hatred?

Anti Magnifico

Anti Star

Anti Ashas

Honestly why? Why all the hatred why Magnifico Is better then Asha?

Or Asha Is better then Magnifico?

Seriously, I want to know. It's a movie fast-paced, in my opinion, but it's a movie. Why can't we all get along?

Comment or DM I'm not any anyone or anything. I just wanted a fandom to be a part of

[dani-luminae]

When asha says "the wishes don't belong to him" she is saying that they don't belong to him FOREVER, and that is so heavily implied that if you don't get that then it's because you don't what to get it, if you want your wish back after you learn that your precious perfect king will not granted it then you should have it back.

Exactly, anon. They're only given under the assumption that the wishes will be granted, that's the implied agreement between the people and Magnifico. Like yes, perhaps he gets to borrow them, because the people fully anticipate that their wish will be returned and granted.

But if he doesn't keep his end of the agreement - if he decides the wish will never be granted - then the wish belongs with the person who made it. Even Asha never argues this. She never demands Magnifico use his magic to grant every wish. It's one of the few things that she and Magnifico do agree on. The issue is that he doesn't give them back, and he lies by omission to his people when he doesn't mention "oh btw, 95 percent of your wishes never actually will be granted... oopsies! Sorry!"

And that's when "borrowed" turns to "stolen."

And the only reason no one's asked for their wish back yet is because they don't even remember the wish. They're just wandering through their lives literally missing a part of themselves, sure that if they just wait long enough, that piece will be given back to them.

[cosmicwishingwell]

Yeah the other reasons why King Magnifico is a villain are valid but to me the biggest reason why magnifico is the villain is because he actually has a book of nothing but evil magic, and yes its "forbidden" but not to magnifico he can use it when ever he feels like, no one was forcing magnifico to have that book but him, he chose to have and use it knowing it can only do evil and nothing but evil, if you allow a demon to possess you to do evil things then you are evil.

You bring up an important point about Magnifico’s villainy that often gets overlooked—his deliberate choice to keep and use the book of evil magic. It’s not just the fact that he possesses the book, but the deeper implication that he actively chooses to engage with something that is forbidden and inherently dangerous. The book is full of dark spells and curses, things that can cause nothing but harm. While it may be “forbidden” in the general sense, that restriction clearly doesn’t apply to him, and that’s where the true danger lies.

What’s particularly telling is that no one forces him to keep this book. He could have easily destroyed it or locked it away where it would never see the light of day, but instead, he chose to keep it close, ready to use whenever he sees fit. That’s not a decision someone makes lightly, and it speaks volumes about his character. This isn’t a case of someone being tempted by dark forces beyond their control. Magnifico has full agency in this situation, and he’s making a conscious decision to keep evil at his fingertips. That alone makes him dangerous, because he’s shown he’s willing to use those powers when it benefits him.

The idea of him having a tool for nothing but evil is what cements his role as a villain. It’s like willingly letting a demon into your life, knowing it will lead to destruction and harm, but embracing that for your own selfish reasons. Magnifico isn’t a victim of dark magic—he’s an active participant. That level of awareness and control over his actions is what separates him from a mere antagonist to a full-blown villain. He knows the consequences of his actions, understands the power he wields, and still chooses to indulge in it. And like you said, that conscious decision is key. If you invite evil in and allow it to take root in your life, that makes you responsible for the havoc it wreaks.

In this way, Magnifico becomes a very intentional kind of villain. He doesn’t stumble into darkness; he walks right into it, eyes wide open. And that is perhaps the most frightening aspect of his character. His ability to choose differently, but his consistent decision to embrace evil, makes him all the more dangerous. It’s not just about having a forbidden book—it's the knowledge that he could do otherwise and still doesn’t. That’s what makes him the true villain in the story.

[cosmicwishingwell]

This!!!!

I noticed something off about the WISH "fandom" is that they genuinely don't care about your character unless you're not single, apparently.

Asha is disregarded for being the "true villain" unless she's in a relationship with geneic-tumblr-sexyman-twink-number-1923.

Amaya is treated as a nothing character unless she's just as evil as her husband.

I already wrote at length about Asha's non existent romance numerous times, so I won't repeat what it here. However, it surprisingly applies to Amaya as well.

Just like Asha, most "fans" wanted Amaya to be in a loving relationship with her husband. And unlike Asha, hers actually exist.

Making Amaya co-villains with Magnifico may seem like a fun idea, but like the non-existent Starboy romance, it's very unnecessary.

Amaya is a surprisingly tragic character applicable to those who severed ties with initially good people til they reveal their toxic side.

Magnifico was always the intended main villain. And despite what concept art of this early draft shows, Amaya is treated more like a sidekick than an equal to Magnifico.

Sure, the very little glimpses of the "villain couple" concept we see have the two be adorably evil together, but that's the thing. There's very little official content of them that isn't from just concept art and most of these "villain couple" ideas are from the "fans".

Most of the fan content about the villain couple concept, and by extension most WISH fan content are just that. "Fan Content".

It bothers me that some people are just so spiteful over a film they watched didn't include their tropes and blorbo they like that they made their own takes with said tropes and blorbo even tho said blorbo never existed had they been less spiteful and actually payed attention, resulting in spreading misinformation about a work that's mostly fan made.

[tamlindudley]

Guys.

I found Rhysand.

[ultraericthered]

So, in this last decade.....

Disney Animated Canon entries with Twist Villains:

Disney Animated Canon entries with Unconventional Antagonists:

Disney Animated Canon entry with a straight-up main villain:

[doverstar]

shoutout to Disney's Wish (2023) for completely spitting on the idea that wives help their husbands. like even if the pointy queen couldn't convince Chris Pine to turn good, you could have at least given us the evil power couple in the concept art

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

I’m no stranger to bad Disney villain discourse, but “King Magnifico was actually a good person” is really up there. The man is an absolute monarch who surgically removes his citizens’ ability to question his authority the instant they become adults and then only gives it back after carefully auditing them for any potential rebellious tendencies. “Sorry Asha, your dad wanted to play the lute and inspire the younger generation but what might he inspire them to? Greed? Envy? Democracy?” Oceania wishes it had what Magnifico has, Rosas is a horrific dystopia with a pretty theme song.

[themattress]

The Problem with King Magnifico

King Magnifico is the best part of Disney's Wish. He's got a sleek design, the most fun animation, and Chris Pine does a fantastic job hamming it up as a classic-style Disney villain.

With that said, he's a good villain, but fails to be a great one.

At first, I thought this was mainly because of all the Member Berries; as the movie goes on he increasingly starts aping past Disney villains which kind of makes him lose his unique identity. However, I've now realized that there's a deeper reason, which lies in comparison to Dreamworks' superior Wishing Star movie, Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, and its villains:

For some reason, the writers of Wish tried to push King Magnifico into all three categories, and it just doesn't work. It is possible for a Sympathetic Villain to develop into a Serious, Scary Villain or for an Unsympathetic Villain to develop into a Serious, Scary Villain. But it is exceedingly difficult, if not downright impossible, to blend or have a transition with a Sympathetic Villain and an Unsympathetic Villain, because that creates way too much of a dissonance. This is where Magnifico was fumbled: before his turn to a Serious, Scary Villain they try to have it both ways, setting him up as sympathetic due to his backstory, seemingly genuine desire to do right by his kingdom even if the way he does it is misguided, and the love he shares with his wife, only to also have him unsympathetic by depicting him as a petty, petulant, thick-headed narcissistic douchebag. This results in confusion in his motivation for why he is doing what he does during the first half of the movie or why he turns to the forbidden magic that drives him mad with power, and also makes it unclear whether we are supposed to see his final fate as a tragedy or a case of him getting what he deserves.

It's very obvious from The Art of Wish that King Magnifico got changed in development. The earliest drafts clearly had him as a humanized villain who starts off sympathetic but goes off the deep end into irredeemable evil; his initial altruistic goals having given way to him just wanting to play God. There's no indication that the forbidden magic was originally going to have any effect on his mental state at all; the fact that he would even use it was simply meant to be his crossing of the Moral Event Horizon, showing that he would rather destroy his kingdom than let anyone or anything other than him have control over it. But the perceived need for Member Berries took a toll on the character, and thus he ended up undercooked.

...Still better cooked than anyone else in the film, though! Go see it for him, people!

[thornvault]

WELL someone made me watch Wish for the third time and I can no longer fight it. I want this man.

Here's a sideblog to drag people down with me.

Listen man he's hot and traumatized I never had a chance. I've always been weak for fucked up little dilfs 😔 disney knew what they were doing fr. I could fix him. Let me at him.

Hoping to get a chance to shamelessly OCpost on here bc my baby Kali is gonna kiss him so much (threat). I'm not interested in any drama btw. I don't care. I'm too old for that stuff just let me enjoy my old man in peace. Friends are always welcome, I love talking about OCs!! (Please talk to me about OCs oh my god)

[officialprincessasha]

I like how I can be anti Magnifico and other things on this blog, but on my other blog, AntiCedfiaWeek, I get tore apart. The ship is from Sofia the First Cedric x Princess Sofia, but it's a map ship of a pedophilic ship. I'm just saying.

[spooky-donut-ghost-house]

I feel like "This Is The Thanks I Get?!"'s writing (mostly) and Chris Pine's performance isn't the problem I think it's the instrumentals that's the problem

If the instrumental sound less generic pop song #34572924792980371 and sounded more menacing and intimating it would be more enjoyable

Cut out the lines that are more "comical" and not make him say shit like "prob"

Hell maybe make him less of the whiny arrogant ruler who's tired of his people being "ungrateful" and make him the benevolent king he thinks he is and make his people actually be ungrateful and it's finally broken him so it's more of a fall from grace kinda song

A benevolent ruler to an ungrateful kingdom that makes him get so fed up with his people being ungrateful that he breaks and becomes evil sounds a thousand times more interesting than whatever the hell Magnifico was supposed to be

[cosmicwishingwell]

Why King Magnifico Isn't the Hero in Disney's "Wish"

While some viewers might be initially charmed by King Magnifico's flamboyant persona and supposed benevolence in Disney's "Wish," a closer look reveals a character driven by a lust for power and control. Here's a breakdown of why Magnifico's actions paint him as the film's true villain:

* **The Tyranny of Benevolence:** Magnifico's core act of villainy lies in his monopoly on wishes. He hoards them for himself under the guise of safeguarding the kingdom. This creates a system of dependence where his subjects are stripped of their agency and ability to improve their lives directly. Magnifico becomes the sole arbiter of their happiness, fostering a culture of fear and obligation rather than genuine care.

* **Fabricated Threats and the Power of Perception:** Magnifico justifies his actions by alluding to a vague past threat. There's no concrete evidence of this danger, suggesting he uses fear as a tool to manipulate his subjects. This tactic keeps them compliant and reinforces the idea that they need his protection, further solidifying his control.

* **Moral Corruption and the Hunger for Power:** Magnifico's obsession transcends a genuine desire for the kingdom's well-being. His actions are driven by a hunger for power for power's sake. The possession of a forbidden magic book hints at a darker ambition, a desire for absolute control that goes far beyond simply granting well-intentioned wishes.

* **Manipulation and the Silencing of Dissent:** Magnifico controls the narrative surrounding wishes. He dictates how they are used and reinforces the belief that the people are incapable of handling them themselves. He dismisses Asha's concerns about the potential consequences of his actions, unwilling to consider alternative solutions or relinquish his hold on power.

* **Apathy Towards Individuality:** Magnifico's actions paint a picture of a ruler who prioritizes control over the well-being of his people. He stifles individuality by denying them the chance to experience the power of shaping their own destinies. This fosters a stagnant and submissive society.

**Addressing Counterarguments:**

There might be arguments that unfettered wishes could lead to chaos. However, the film doesn't explore the concept of responsible wish-making. Magnifico simply denies everyone the chance to experience it, fostering a system of fear and dependence. "Wish" presents a clear distinction between Magnifico's oppressive rule and Asha's desire for a world where individuals have the power and responsibility to shape their own lives, even if it comes with potential risks. The film ultimately argues that freedom and agency, even with their inherent challenges, are far preferable to the stifling control wielded by a power-hungry ruler like King Magnifico.

[prettycdds]

{{ Trying not to think about how Magnifico's kingdom fell to a thief.

Like, after his parents kingdom fell to bandits. Pillagers who destroyed his home simply to steal things and leave. And so he has this emotional freakout and tyrannical overreaction when Asha broke into his own castle and STOLE a wish, planning to steal ALL his wishes, effectively ending his rule and so of course THAT is when he snaps. He immediately resorts to drastic measures in a desperate bid to stop this from happening. He can't lose everything again, he just can't.....

In that way, he caused his kingdom to fall to pillaging.... again. }}

[angelshizuka]

King Magnifico reminds me of Thomas Astruc for some reason.

Nah, King Magnifico is way too cool to be compared to that pathetic excuse of a human named TA.

I do see where you're coming from, TA just doesn't have the benefit of being a likable fictional character who's fun to watch like King Magnifico is. So, I judge them differently, because that's how fiction vs reality works.

Though, King Magnifico might be my fave character in Wish, I still have issues with the way he was written (they tried to make him a full-blown evil villain, but they made him WAAAY too sympathetic for that), but even then his writing is still MILES better than whatever tf ML was doing with Hawk Moth.

[ultraericthered]

Another King Magnifico Post

A common criticism of Wish is that King Magnifico, like pretty much every character in the film, doesn't seem to have any solid motivation driving his actions in the story, and that the backstory we're given doesn't sufficiently set up any such motivation. I partially agree, but partially disagree. It's not that motivation for Magnifico's villainy isn't there in the story, it's that the presentation of it in the movie that fails because ironic enough for a simple fairy tale, they overcomplicate it.

King Magnifico's motivations, made simple:

Keep his crown, his power, and his iron-fisted control over Rosas and the system of wishes he created so that he may continue to make his own wishes come true, even if at the expense of all other wishes, and his people's reverence of him and dependence on him endures.

King Magnifico's motivations post-forbidden magic book:

Still that, but with the added feature of him being so drunk on power that he wants to take and break wishes, along with Star itself, to add to that power with which he'll quell any dissent to his rule and re-subjugate the dissenters, and in this state of mind, he would rather see his kingdom razed to the ground than relinquish that power.

King Magnifico as seen in the movie:

Safeguard all wishes in Rosas because he sincerely believes in the value of wishes due to his tragic backstory, so that THAT will never happen again and no one in the kingdom he built will suffer the sort of trauma and heartbreak that he did...but he's a little too tight with how he asserts his control, is too paranoid, biased, close-minded and self-interested in how he judges which wishes to grant and which ones to not grant, hoards so many ungranted wishes away for their magical blessings, and doesn't simply return the wishes he won't grant because reasons, possibly because he fears pulling away that carrot on a stick would disillusion people with him and he'd lose his relevence, attention, adulation, and respect. 'Cause he's a malignant narcissist who is so comically in love with his own self-image that he has a God Complex/Savior Complex that makes him more arrogant and power-hungry, don'tchya know. But he also loves his wife, wants to protect her too, and will trust her judgment when she advises him to not go to extremes...except when he doesn't. And when Star is in Rosas spreading a new magical power that isn't his, Asha acts out in rebellion against his rule and system, and the people all start to question him rather than give him the blind respect, adoration, and complacency he feels so entitled to, he spirals into madness and villainy to the point of opening up the forbidden magic book...which drives him to madness and villainy even more, and once he's drunk on this power and learns that breaking wishes enhances it, he wants to break wishes and add Star itself to his power and make everyone all sad and disspirited forever with no more wishes so that they'll stop resisting and he can oppress them without consequence. Because he's evil, has lost all good in him, and nothing about the character that was set up in the first half of the story really matters anymore.

Where was I? Oh yeah!

Had the movie shared a fuller account of Magnifico's backstory with us at the very beginning, and then alluded to it at only a few key points in the story to clearly link how Magnifico presently percieves something and feels about something with what happened in his past that set him down his path to becoming the bad man he is now, and otherwise just played straight the simplified motivations of the first two paragraphs up there, his characterization and descent into full-on villainy would've been all the stronger and easier to follow for it.