#anti harley quinn show

[justmenoworries]

I fucking hate how the Harley Quinn Show devolved from "actually funny satire with solid character work" to "Hey, watch which fan-favorite DC character we shit on this week for no particular reason! We're edgy and subversive please say we're cool"

[some-random-fucker]

HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL VOTING FOR HQ SHOW IVY SHE HAS THE MOST BLAND LOOK OF ALL TIME

People think that having pants or being surface perceived as a feminist costume without any depth is more important than being a good costume and it makes me SICK

[goldengirlgalaxy]

Danny runs to Gotham after a reveal with his parents gone wrong. Bruce Wayne ends up catching on to the fact that he's a homeless kid in need of a good home. Danny, however, does not want to deal with another rich, potentially-insane, definitely-obsessed A-hole, so he does his best to steer clear of him. Doubly so when Batman takes an interest, as he want to put his hero days behind him.

Eventually, Danny, sick of running and wanting a way to make the two stop hunting him, decides that he should let someone else adopt him instead. Cut to him being found by Harley Quinn, who decides that she should totally pull a Bruce and adopt this black-haired, blue-eyed child. Hopefully Ivy won't mind!

[resisteverything]

Five ways the Harley Quinn show is better than spindlehorse.

1. It’s sex positive. In Helluva boss and Hazbin sex is selectively respected, and there are many jokes about STDs. Meanwhile in the Harley quinn show when Joker tries to insult Harley based on her HPV, Bane educates him on how most sexually active adults have it, and it’s never mentioned again really. The eat bang kill comic has a sex worker character who is both a sympathetic character and isn’t a victim of sex work. It’s not perfect, season four blows and it basically ruined nightwing butt jokes, but that’s an outlier and you know vizie wouldn’t have take four seasons to do even worse, and even then the joke isn’t shaming anyone for being horny.

2. The show actually centers and explores the sapphic relationship at the center of it all. It’s deranged how in Hazbin which is supposed to be a wildly raunchy adult cartoon, there is no indication that Charlie and Vaggie ever had sex, or ever wanted to. If you cut adam from the show I could believe that angels never have sexual feelings. While Harley Quinn on the other hand consistently centers these two as a couple, like even if they hadn’t become a canon relationship the two would have been infinitely more shippable than Chaggie are, and once they did they were just the best.

3. I never get the feeling that the show is written by someone who doesn’t know how to swear. A character talking like she doesn’t know how to swear is actually played for laughs when it happens because it’s meant to be her having uncharacteristically lost control of the situation.

4. The show cares about its premise. It’s not secretly about another thing. Season 2 kinda did that with Harlivy but they’re the main characters and their dynamic is central to the series. The show is about Harley Quinn’s quest to become a great villain and her relationship with Ivy, until season 3 which is about that but also Harley’s redemption which leads to her being a hero. But before then the story continues to explore this stuff instead of finding some new stuff. There’s no half an episode dedicated to some unimportant side characters.

5. The humor seems to be better from what I remember. No one is just saying crass shit to no one, they have humorous conversations. Not much I can describe but the humor I remember shows self-awareness.

[liquidorcard]

I love it when the shows Lily likes makes fun of people like her.

[batfamfixation]

Batman is not "pro-police" and is sure as hell not a Republican

Some people are under the impression that Batman is pro-police, but that is literally so inaccurate. Batman is for police reform and accountability, and he will personally do it himself if he has to. He is anti-gun and believes a police officer should never shoot unless absolutely necessary. He wouldn't have become Batman if he thought the police were competent. He only works with Jim Gordon, because he thinks most of the police are incompetent. He would and has fist fought with dirty cops. He thinks that getting rid of corrupt cops (and politicians) is an important part of making Gotham a better place. He prefers giving petty criminals jobs and social resources rather than having them arrested.

He is not just for police reform but also prison reform, because he believes the point of prisons should be about rehabilitating inmates. He believes that no one is beyond rehabilitation. That is borderline one of his character flaws. He hires former inmates so they can make a living without turning back to crime. He even has a halfway house that former convicts can stay in until they get figuratively back on their feet. He prefers eradicating crime by addressing the root cause, which is often poverty and a lack of social resources.

AND ANOTHER THING- There's this idea that Gotham is a shithole because Bruce isn't doing enough with his wealth, but that doesn't take into account that he is nowhere near the only billionaire in Gotham. He's up against the Court of Owl elites, and a lot of them are board members for Wayne Enterprises and have a say in what the company can and can not do. The Court of Owls plays a heavy roll in politics and most politicians are puppets of the Court and mobs. Politicians that aren't corrupt get killed by the bad guys for refusing to obey. Look at what happened to Harvey Dent. Look at how much money he has funneled into Arkham to no avail. Bruce can not own and control every aspect of every major business in Gotham. No person should have a monopoly on an entire city.

[pockethep]

The way a college centered Scooby Doo show could’ve worked but they executed it in the worst way possible. Every American ever is born a Scooby Doo fan, it’s just science. So for the show to just viscerally not understand the characters to a degree that is confusing makes no sense. Fred, for instance, I’d know for being the most golden retriever good boy in existence. Making him any flavor of mean, rude, misogynistic, is such a disservice. Making all of the characters mean aside from a little sass goes against the mystery gang. This is where I think shows like The Harley Quinn Show succeed where Velma failed. The Harley Quinn Show understood its characters but emphasized some of the characters most known traits to a comical degree. Still they managed to fundamentally keep the characters base the same. Batman, for instance, is still the caped crusader but his brooding is upped for comedic effect.

[dylanrosales25]

[poisonousquinzel]

so, obviously there's plenty to criticize about HQTAS, but are we ready to talk about how invasive and uncomfortable it actually was that Psycho projected Harley & Ivy having sex to all of Gotham and we got "humorous little comments" from the peanut gallery (including Harley's abusive ex) and idk ig we're supposed to just ignore that immense violation of privacy and Consent. Like am I supposed to genuinely believe that Ivy wouldn't have gutted that freak for that?? He mind controlled her, tried to force her to murder her best friend and then essentially projected their sex tape to an entire city without their consent.

He shouldn't have walked out of that building alive.

I mean, honestly his whole role doesn't particularly make sense cause he's a violent raging sexist. On a team with Harley & Ivy. Especially around Ivy, even if she wasn't technically part of the team, she was just about always there. As if she wouldn't have heard him say 1 single, completely out of line, offensive bullshit and ended him without a second thought. He can't use his mind powers to stop her if she's already lodged a vine into his throat ¯⁠\⁠_⁠ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ⁠_⁠/⁠¯

but oh no, it's just so impossible to make a comedy show that doesn't feature a prominent male character who's entire purpose is to put down / make fun of women and make gross, insensitive jokes about them cause "haha, sexism amirite? LOL"

[brimycave]

Im proud of this drawing! Really used 100% of my brain to color it

[mikakuna]

i would genuinely love a red hood show like the harley quinn show. a feel-good, comedy series that follows jason coming back from the dead and becoming red hood, getting his crew, becoming a crime lord, interacting with the bats and the rogues- it would be so fun, i'm convinced

jason's dark humour, stupid moments between him and bruce (less angsty and more bruce being an awkward dad), cute dad-son moments between him and harvey where harvey brags about jason and jason being so over it, the other rogues being so irritated by jason because he keeps foiling their plans, harley and him bonding over how shitty joker was (he's dead), and overall jason just being super fun to watch.

because let's be honest, jason is literally the kind of anti-hero character who would be so engaging to watch as a main character in a dark comedy.

[sad-drake-lyrics]

what my 65yo father has to say about antis:

let me preface this by saying, i literally wish i had what just happened on video to go viral on TikTok. i was shook by this conversation down to my bones; and if you could see my father - a loud old Italian man with dramatic hand gestures - say what he had to say, i think this shit would blow up. but as i was obviously not filming him while we were eating, i will have to relay to you the story with my words.

so i'm sitting eating dinner at the coffee table with my father while watching TV, as Americans often do instead of eating at the dinner table, and since the news was on he started telling me this story that had been recently mentioned on TV once again from maybe ten years ago (it was in 2014, you can read about it here) where these two 12-year-old girls killed one of their friends as a sacrifice to the Slender Man. yeah, real thing. fucked up.

and so my father told me about how they interviewed one of the killer's mothers, and when questioned about where her daughter's motive could've come from, she said something along the lines of: you know, when i was a kid, i was into Stephen King and horror - and so when my kid was into that kind of stuff, i didn’t think it was a big deal.

so, of course, my response was "yeah, being into that stuff isn’t a big deal at all - it's normal - but being a sociopath and murdering someone is not normal; it's fucked up. but there's nothing wrong with being into horror stories - they're just stories meant to entertain - it doesn't make you a murderer to enjoy Halloween - but it would if you put on a Michael Myers mask and went out and stabbed people." and, of course, like any sane person, my father agreed with me.

then, continuing this line of conversation, i started talking about the concept of how "fiction isn’t reality," and how a frightening amount of people don't understand that; and i literally started telling him about antis - people on the internet who attack and harass others over "problematic" or "inappropriate" fictional interests.

i used well-known pop culture examples like: if you're into Game of Thrones and like Jaime and Cersei together or wanted Jon and Daenerys to end up together (i didn't think he would process the term "shipping," but clearly by the end of this conversation i think i was wrong), that people (antis) will say things like "you should die," and that you "support inc*st in real life," and that "you're disgusting."

i also used the examples of "toxic relationships" in pop culture, like the Joker and Harley Quinn, or Kylo Ren and Rey, and how if you’re into those kinds of fictional relationships that people (antis) will say that you "support toxic relationships," and that you are "glorifying abuse," and that it all "must be what you really want and believe is right or good."

and my fucking 65-year-old father literally goes: "I don’t understand. It’s a TV show. Don't they know it’s fake?"

queue my jaw dropping to the fucking ground because i'm like. YES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT PRO-SHIPPERS ARE TRYING TO SAY AND THESE PEOPLE DON'T GET IT.

he was flabbergasted, my pals. the shock in his eyes was incredible to behold.

and, oh boy, that isn't even the best part, guys.

my father then says, "Don’t tell me it’s like that with anime too?"

and i said, "it's worse with anime."

and i fucking swear to you - no joke, on my life and baby Jesus' cradle - again my 65-year-old father looks at me and says, “It’s a fucken cartoon."

... ... ...

... i can't ...

i can't end this post better than that.

[diabeticriddler]

batman adaptations either seem to have kind of an anti-time period thing going on (vaguely in date tech with vaguely advanced tech and for some reason everyones always wearing a suit and the women always have 1950/ haircuts and dresses) or are pretty accurate to the time period they were made in without being corny abt it but i want a gotham that is in a decidedly unsexy time period. i want a batman adaptation that takes place in 2009. bruce wayne wears a fedora with an otherwise casual outfit bc its fashionable for the time. harley quinn has denim shorts over pattered forever21 leggings. ed nygma owns stuff from that weird era where everything has a mustache on it. selena kyle wears a zebra print dress with a brightly colored neon bra showing thru it and shes seen as the hottest woman in the world. the iceburg lounge plays fire burning by sean kingston. do you see my vision here

[porcelaintoybox23]

Just saw a popular post positing Dick Grayson as a silly, goofy man and “Bruce’s favorite” as if their relationship isn’t contentious at the best of times. Once again reminded that batfam is dumb and ignores everyone’s characterizations.

The fake person I made up: you’re saying you don’t like a happy batfam?

Me: No, I don’t want a happy batfam. I don’t want Bruce Wayne to be a good “dad” or mentor. At best, he tries and falls short because he isn’t suited to properly caring for others.

I don’t want dunce, can’t cook, nerfed Dick Grayson, I want one who’s just as cold and calculating as Bruce can be. One that suffers from perfectionism and anger issues because Bruce demands so much and this orphaned boy needed a father, not an adult child soldier.

I want a Dick Grayson that’s angry that his supposed “family” failed him and literally left him with amnesia and blamed him for it. I want the Dick Grayson who moved to New York instead of Gotham because even nuclear fallout can’t make him be near Bruce.

I want a Dick that resents Bruce. A Dick Grayson that considers John his real father and hates that he’s still so much like Bruce regardless.

I want a Jason Todd who keeps his distance because Bruce keeps making the same mistakes. I want a Jason Todd that kills because Bruce’s views should be challenged. I want a Jason Todd who is independent of the Batfam and does his own thing.

I don’t want the edgy, street trash Jason. I want the excited boy who had his joy beaten out of him.

I want a Tim Drake that’s still Red Robin. I want the neurotic kid who cloned his bf(f) like 99 times, accidentally killed Cass’s mom, and goes toe to-toe with Ra’s al-Ghul. The kid who’s morals are a little more suspect. The one with the potential to go Savior.

I want Barbara Gordon as Oracle. I want the Barbara with the sirens. I want the Barbara who wouldn’t kiss Jason and berate Dick for his amnesia.

I want a Cassandra Cain that’s utilized more.

I don’t want a happy batfam because there is no reality in which a batfam can be healthy. Bruce dedicated his life to “vengeance.” The man is focused on the mission. He will lie, manipulate, and use people. Bruce Wayne is the kind of man who keeps a list on how to kill his teammates despite being against killing. Bruce Wayne is paranoid and needed a child to rein in his murderous rage. Bruce Wayne beat Dick into faking his death. Even is his best iterations, he’s a paranoid recluse who can’t distinguish between himself and the mask.

I think batfam is fun…crack. I consider it crack. This urge to make them close and loving feels so out of character at times. I’m not saying none of them have positive relationships. I love Dick and Damian as close brothers. I think Tim and Jason are funny at times. BUT if any superhero family should be fucked and full of tension, it’s the bats. The supers and speedsters can be healthy. Maybe, maybe the arrows, but not the bats.

[gothamite-rambler]

Posting on AO3 and Tumblr

Hey everyone! I haven't been posting my usual longer script flash fics here because I've been busy moving and concentrating on writing a lot of them on AO3. Many of those fics work better as one-shots over there. I hesitated to post them because I was worried they wouldn't belong on AO3; it felt weird to write them like script fics. Heck on here I switched formats for a time, ashamed of my writing style, and I didn't think they deserved to be there. Even when friends recommended I share them, I felt inadequate and kept posting here instead.

But with the help from my friends I finally worked up the courage to do both, post on here and archive of our own. I love writing fanfiction and it's fun exploring the batman mythos. I'm still working on handling the hate comments, but... I'm getting there sorta lol. 😊

For me, my longer fics tend to bog down the feed here, and I don’t mean that negatively! While it may sound like I am, I was just too focused on the numbers, worrying about getting the most kudos and comments. I was fixated on this odd idea of becoming 'famous' instead of writing what I genuinely enjoy for myself and the readers who might come across it.

Sorry for rambling! I plan to continue posting script fics here that are connected to my works on AO3, but they’ll be shorter. You can find links to my current AO3 works in the master list, although some of the links under it may be dead.

Current fics on ao3:

Batfamily Adventures: Jim Gordon

Burden of Blame

I'm a poison... I couldn't save them - Nightwing Fic 

The Ties that Bind: Cassandra Cain and Jason Todd Becoming Friends 

"Okay, but how were you able to taste heroin?" - Remember that one time?

There some not posted W.I.P. I have ready to post on ao3 as well:

JayRose Flash fics: How they met, them keeping it secret and finding out they want to give a monogamous relationship a shot with each other and see where there love takes them.

Dimensional Crossroads: A fanfic where portals open around the world and Gotham, leading the main Batfamily to encounter alternate versions of themselves, their friends, and those they’ve lost.

Harley Quinn's Redemption Arc: Harley Quinn, while admittedly insane from the effects of jumping into the Joker toxin, is making amends and bettering herself as best as she can. She's not a hero or a licensed therapist anymore, but being an anti-hero street therapist works for her. Now, she's attempting to repair her relationships with former foes, especially Jason. Her girlfriend Ivy doesn't fully support her working with the Bat Family, but she will still be there for her.

Timbern Fics: These stories center on Tim Drake and Bernard, exploring their unique dynamic. Tim struggles to keep his superhero life separate from his love life, but Bernard isn’t one to shy away from a chance to fight bad guys. Together, they make the perfect couple—who knew romance could be so action-packed?

Tim Drake Fics: This series delves into Tim's journey as he copes with the tragic deaths of his parents. It captures his internal conflicts with villains who complement his persona, his occasional hair-trigger temper, and the way his intelligence and tendency to overthink often come in handy—at the most unexpected moments.

Duke Thomas Fics: Follow Duke as he adjusts to life within the Batfamily, carving out his own niche while embracing the unconventional nature of his new home. He’s not your average hero, and some of his moves—and perhaps even his strategies—are inspired by his favorite animes. Just remember, he doesn’t mess with the spirits!

Cass Fics: In these stories, Cass shows off her badass side while embracing her role as Bruce's favorite (and only) daughter. The series explores her deep bond with her "baby brother," Jason, as she navigates her own anxieties and issues. And who says dating life can’t be enjoyable?

RobStar Fics: Join Dick Grayson and Koriandr on their path to rekindling their relationship. With open communication and maturity, they tackle villains and share tender moments. Will marriage be in their future? You’ll have to wait and see!

Spoiler vs. Kite-Man Fics: Inspired by a headcanon I had after watching Kite-Man, Hell Yeah, this series humorously explores the unlikely dynamic of Stephanie Brown and Kite-Man. Though Stephanie initially dislikes Kite-Man, their odd relationship shifts as she lets him escape and he proposes a rivalry. She even gets to meet his fiancée! FML, indeed.

Jason Todd's Pre-Return to the Batfamily Fics: This series dives into Jason's tumultuous journey before rejoining the Batfamily. During this time, he battles Tim in a brutal second fight, keeps Damian’s identity a secret from Bruce, reconciles with Dick, rescues Bruce, and ultimately decides to stop killing—all while forming his own team.

Talia al Ghul: A Good Mom Fics: This series portrays Talia as a mother first, villain second, in her relationship with Damian. After making mistakes with both him and Bruce, and following her brush with death, she is determined to be a better mother, even if it annoys her son in the process.

That's what I have so far off the top of my head! You can check out many of these stories on my pinned masterlist. Thanks for reading, and if I muster the courage to post them on AO3, I’ll share the links soon.

[dylanrosales25]