#anti creddie

[piperslovebot]

Carly should’ve ended up with a girl in the reboot

[field-o-flowers]

One thing about cr*ddie shippers is that they cannot just be happy with their ship being canon. They have to go to seddie shippers posts to say it and whenever there’s a seddie edit or someone talking about seddie in their own posts they are still there trying to tell them they can’t like that ship or that cr*ddie won so they should just get over it? Like..? And I can’t believe I used to think seddie shippers were the toxic ones.

[heyheycaitalin]

I don't think I'll ever forgive the iCarly reboot for making Creddie canon again. I've said it before and I'll say it a million times more: You don't date your best friends ex and you don't date your ex's best friend. Sam herself said that Freddie was the only guy she's ever loved. Sam asked Freddie to have dinner with her after he got out of the hospital in Sam & Cat.

Now, idk, I haven't watched since the Webicon episode, maybe Carly called Sam and asked for her blessing first. But in what world would Sam ever be genuinely happy with her ex boyfriend dating her best friend, the girl he had a crush on forever but seemingly got over. Carly had her chance to go after Freddie between iSaved Your Life and iOMG, and she didn't. Freddie could've told her if he still had feelings for Carly, and he didn't.

I get it. Jeanette is never, ever coming back to iCarly and Seddie would never happen onscreen again. Totally fine. But that doesn't mean her character is erased. Freddie is allowed and encouraged to move on, BUT NOT WITH CARLY. Any other person in the world would be fine, but not Sam's best friend since second grade.

[saveme-storybrooke-potc]

I forgot that ICarly became a thing again and that Creddie became a thing (again but not really) and now the actors say they love it even though he (Nathan) did say that if he were Freddie he wouldn't choose either girl because both relationships are toxic

[swifteforeverandalways]

I’ve been watching more of the iCarly revival and realized that I don’t ship Seddie and Lucaya (from Girl Meets World) for the same reason: the female in the ship (Sam and Maya) are too abusive towards the male (Lucas and Freddie) for my comfort. In the original iCarly series, Sam was physically abusive towards Freddie constantly. In Girl Meets World, Maya constantly put down and demeaned Lucas. Whereas Carly and Riley actually like Freddie and Lucas for who they were.

[watchmenanon]

s/eddie shippers seething because their toxic and abusive ship isn't canon are so embarassing to me because you're telling me that you're an adult and you still see nothing wrong about that violent relationship and how awful and toxic of a character Sam was to the point that even her own freaking actress dislikes her.

[creddieswestallen]

just wanted to add something here about seddie: what drew me to them is that they were each other's first kiss and the shock of her kissing him in season 4 but that doesn't make a relationship. and i haven't watched the original in years because the dan and jennette of it all gives me the ick but the seddie arc is so ingrained in my brain. if i remember correctly sam said she started to like freddie after he was lying in a pool of his ear blood next to a fire hydrant like what the fuck and they were fighting all the time making carly crazy being their involuntary couples counselor and so much more it's really kinda shocking the chokehold seddie had me in because it was so bad.

creddie's short lived relationship in isaved your life played out so much better and i agree with miranda that creddie wouldn't have worked out because they needed that time to grow and for carly to realize that she does infact love freddie and it's played out beautifully in the revival

i'm new to creddie tumblr but i have something i need to say: i was like a hardcore seddie shipper (also lowkey shipped creddie) in the original icarly even after sam and cat ended i was still wishing that sam and freddie ended up together because i'm a slut for a good enemies to lovers (example: ben and devi from never have i ever they're perfect) but the keyword being good and maturing is realizing that seddie were so toxic and didn't work together at all. the seddie arc was proof of that. but carly and freddie are everything they're so perfect together. the writing and nathan and miranda's acting is just so good in a way that this season feels so natural for carly and freddie to be together and i love love love love childhood friends to lovers like creddie give off such westallen from the flash vibes and they're one of my favorite ships of all time

[pamayapaya]

Idk where people get the idea that heteronormativity doesn’t exist or isn’t harmful bc that shit is fucking everywhere.

I mean a series can spend like 80% of its time telling us how important the relationship is between two male or two female characters and how they’re great friends who mean everything to each other and are always together etc etc and at the end they’re always like “lol they’re just friends!”

Then they can do a random ass pull at the last second to tell us that the male/female are completely in love despite having no development or chemistry or connection whatsoever or just have a plain out horribly written romance between the two characters

It’s such bullshit and it’s so annoying when people get mad if you call it out like “why do you hate straight people?? You’re such a meanie!! You just want everything to be gay! Why can’t you just be happy with this one gay background character with no screen time who portrays a lot of offensive stereotypes?”

Its even worse when you meet the fandoms for these ships. They’re always so so so horrible and make so many stupid excuses as to why their ship isn’t invalid and why I need to stop oppressing straight people. Either that or they spout ignorant nonsense that makes it clear how utterly stupid they are.

I deadass had a todomomo shipper tell me once that they couldn’t possibly be heteronormative even though they were straight because they had gay friends and they accepted them.

And the thing that really makes me mad about it is that at the end of the day, the male/female romance is just unnecessary in the first place.

There’s absolutely no inherent need for romance in any series. And if you don’t even want to put in the effort of making it believable then why create it in the first place?

[keeloves]

Creddie vs Seddie.

Thinking about ICarly because of Game Shakers and those ships. Sorry but they both suck. Carly is way too shallow somewhat full of herself and was not a good girlfriend to Griffin. Sam is way too violent and I feel she is one of those friends that get way to overwhelming.I

[fairykery]

I love how never in my entire icarly experience have se/ddies ever managed to debunk any of my arguments and they just change the topic to talk about ship dynamic. I guess being abusive is okay as long as you're a girl, right?

[piperslovebot]

enemies to lovers >>>> one sided pining to lovers

[fairykery]

It was also forced because it became popular. How tf do the writers think that falling for someone because you physically hurt them and then saw them bleed cutely, more justifiable than falling for someone because they saved your life HOW?

just sharing some thoughts. i was never able to ship seddie and i think part of it was that sam was just so INCREDIBLY mean to freddie. like she literally bullied him and personally that always made me feel uncomfortable while watching. i’m an enemies to lovers fan myself, but it always bothered me, as a ten yr old and now, that the “enemy” part was totally one-sided. it wasn’t about two enemies fighting one another. he disliked her, she bullied him, even if they were friends. meaning she not only verbally abused him but also physically. nowadays ships where the bully falls for their victim and viceversa are super criticized, so i find it FUNNY that the same people who might criticize those ships, insist with seddie and shit on creddie all the time. neither was perfect, of course, they were kids who didn’t know much, but some things like physical abuse are entirely different.

as we say in spanish: en fin, la hipocresía. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[heyheycaitalin]

So I kinda hope the iCarly revival acknowledges the Creddie kiss right before Carly left for Italy, because wtF was that about???! I mean seriously. Friends don't kiss their best friend's ex or their ex's best friend. My headcanon is that Sam saw or found out about the Creddie kiss somehow, and that's why she went to LA. I don't care if they never explicitly mentioned this in Sam & Cat, you can take this headcanon out of my cold dead hands.

My other headcanon about the kiss is that Freddie raised his arms in victory afterwards because it confirmed what he already knew, he was over Carly. He felt nothing other than friendship for her. He could kiss her and watch her get on a plane to the other side of the world and be just fine. He would miss her, duh. But he wasn't heartbroken like his soulmate left him. That pain would come shortly after when Sam left.

I also headcanon that Freddie was planning/hoping to get back together with Sam, but she left before he could tell her he still loved her. That really broke his heart.

[wendytestabrat]

I’ve never been that much into shipping like literally I’m one of the most boring and logical people ever and when I watch most shows I just care about the plot and don’t rlly give a fuck when it’s soiled with a bunch of corny romances (except if it’s actually interesting and the two people have an entertaining dynamic that adds to the story and gives conflict and shit). This is exactly how the last few seasons of Regular Show were ruined bc it was all about relationships (even tho I love Rigby & Eileen together ngl LOL), as well as iCarly like the whole fucking Creddie vs Seddie war ruined the show, I doubt Freddie was supposed to end up with anyone but it’s like the writers felt pressured to put in that dumbass Seddie storyline bc shippers were obsessed. So I understand why people don’t care for Kyman or any South Park ship and just wanna watch the show, I mean I was like this too I used to not give a fuck and found the South Park shippers annoying. I only liked Stendy bc it was canon, and then Kyman grew on me over time, and I started to like Creek when it became canon too, but every other ship in the fandom is mostly trash imo LOL. But srsly ya’ll are dumb as hell for not seeing that there’s clearly something going on between Cartman & Kyle at this point, especially after Kyle went ballistic after seeing Cartman with someone else TWICE….I’m like bruh how can anyone interpret this as anything other than jealousy. DHSJJS I’m sure you could totally make a case to argue how Kyman isn’t gonna actually happen, bc I agree on some level like South Park is just a comedy, so I feel like a lot of it is all just Matt & Trey trolling everyone and putting in these subliminal messages that don’t amount to anything. And yeah one can also argue that Kyman will never happen bc Cartman & Kyle are both too stubborn to ever admit they care for one another. But I mean I feel like there’s NO WAY at this point that these Kyman moments we keep getting are just fans reading too much into things, I’m sure Matt & Trey know damn well what they’re doing and they’re putting this shit in on purpose as fan service to imply that Cartman & Kyle like each other bc they know so many people ship Kyman. So yeah will Kyman ever actually become canon or happen? Honestly I don’t know, it’s so hard to tell. But I mean Creek happened so it’s not completely out of the realm of possibility and Matt & Trey are always doing unpredictable things and trolling people. I really don’t wanna say that Kyman is for sure gonna happen, but I feel like I can’t completely say it’s not possible either bc I may be wrong either way LOL. But I know for a fact there is tension and subliminal messaging going on and these annoying ass anti-kymans are just gaslighting everyone for pointing out what we can clearly see. If we’re anti-semitic for seeing what’s going on between Cartman & Kyle then I guess Matt & Trey must be anti-semites too bc they’re the ones doing this shit and putting it in the show, not us. (And I’m Jewish btw LOL)

[watchmenanon]

Miranda (and Nathan, too) was incredibly diplomatic with s/eddie shippers because we all know it wouldn't have been a good ending for Freddie or the show. The relationship between him and Sam was abusive and toxic and Freddie deserves better than that.

[fairykery]

I will never understand why they made them break up for the same reasons they made seddie canon.

The main reason why I prefer the extended version, and why it's my favorite episode of the original.