#anti Andrew Kreisberg

[spite-and-waffles]

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I stan nobody but if I stan anyone I stan Candice Patton and her Iris West. The absolute hailstorm of racism, misogynoir, trauma and alienation this lady and her character has been subjected to from the get-go is unreal. And yet for nine whole years she breathed beauty and warmth and genuineness into her character, even when delivering the worst lines of dialogue she was made to say that she knew would cause huge backlash (apologies for linking Screen Rant. Broken clock etc.). She co-founded "Shethority" with her friends Maisie Richardson Sellers and Caity Lotz in the wake of the Kreisberg scandal. And she always put herself on the line to speak out and hold her bosses accountable as much as possible.

All this while her character was barely allowed to kiss her co-star onscreen, let alone act with the same casual sexuality of any other married TV couple in a 7pm slot, under the guise of The Flash being a "family show". My heart broke for how utterly worn down and traumatized she was by the end, because not only did Berlanti Studios or the CW not protect or accommodate their Black artists and those of colour, they're also known for subjecting them to racist, misogynistic harrassment and severe exploitation of even their white male talent. This woman wasn't allowed a Black hairdresser or makeup artist for eight seasons, was only allowed to show her natural hair on-screen after five years, and had to watch her black co-stars being sidelined, suppressed and subjected to all manner of indignity with little space to offer solidarity or speak out (I don't care if Berlanti hired them for Love, Simon, the way his fucking studio treated Keiynan Lonsdale was a crime). Even her co-star Grant Gustin only woke up and came to her defence against the online abuse hurled her way eight years in.

Berlanti has cultivated a wholly unearned reputation as an envelope-pusher for the gay community in the entertainment industry, while playing it so safe that the gay couples in his shows are barely allowed to make out– the same way they treat interracial couples with one white partner. His buddy Kreisberg finally met his downfall after sexually harrassing the female workers in his shows for four years, but Marc Guggenheim, Wendy Mericle and Geof Johns are also known racists and misogynists. Even after Stephen Amell's breakdown, Ruby Rose going public with her physical trauma, firing Superman and Lois's Black writer Nadria Tucker, numerous attempts by Black actresses to speak on their working conditions in the CW, and the consistent bald misogyny, ableism and racism of these shows' storylines, the white queers in fandom continue to valorize Berlanti. Now with the release of Red, White and Royal Blue on Amazon Prime in August, again using a Mexican director and characters of colour to use QPoC fans as a shield and buttress, Berlanti's stock is going to be even higher.

The Flash had the potential to be a truly great show, and Candice's Iris West a real foothold for Black actresses and interracial romances in the white-dominated TV entertainment industry. Instead it was just another opportunity for it to grind them to dust. Just like so many other Black women and WoC who try to lead the charge. But through it all, Ms. Patton held the line. Y'all never deserved her. I hope she gets to heal and move onto projects that value her and allow her her full range of voice and expression, that recognizes and rewards her incredible talent and work ethic.

Fuck Berlanti, fuck the CW and fuck DCtv.

[afaims100arrowversefavs]

My 250 Favorite Arrowverse Episodes: Part 4: 175-151

Taken from „Arrow“, „The Flash“, „Supergirl“, „Legends of Tomorrow“, „Constantine“, „Black Lightning“, „Batwoman“, „Stargirl“ and Season 1-3 of „Superman & Lois“:

In honor of Seaosn 4 of "Superman & Lois" being the end of the Arrrowverse, the end of DCTV like we knew it and the end of The CW like we knew it, a final time before the final season all Seasons ends of all the 250 best Arrowverse Episodes (according to me):

I did include "Stargirl" this time, since it has as much connection as "Superman & Lois" to the rest of the Arrowverse, but One Hit Shows like "Gotham Knights" and "Naomi" (anyone still remember this one?) are not on this list, neither are Arrowverse unrelated DC shows:

175. Heritage (Superman & Lois 1x2)

The One in which: The Kent Family moves to Smallville.

2, Written by: Todd Helbing, Directed by: Lee Toland Krieger

174. Off with her Head (Batwoman 1x15)

The One in which: Jacob talks to Alice and her kidnapper to Kate.

15, Written by: Natalie Abrams, Directed by: Holly Dale

173. Deus Lex Machina (Supergirl 5x17)

The One in which: Lex wakes up in a new world.

104, Written by: Lindsay Sturman, Katie Rose Rogers, Brooke Pohl, Directed by: Melissa Benoist

172. Magenta (The Flash 3x3)

The One in which: There are two kind of girls.

49, Written by: Judalina Neira, David Kob, Directed by: Armen Kevorkian

171. The Demon (Arrow 7x5)

The One in which: Oliver meets Talia again in jail.

143, Written by: Benjamin Raab, Deric A. Hughes, Directed by: Mark Bunting

170. Manhunter (Supergirl 1x17)

The One in which: J’onn meets Jeremiah and Shioban scemes.

17, Written by: Derek Simon, Cindy Lichtman, Rachel Shukert, Directed by: Chris Fisher

169. Elongated Journey into the Night (The Flash 4x4)

The One in which: Ralph has a longish problem.

73, Written By: Sterling Gates und Thomas Pound, Directed By: Tom Cavanagh

168. The Wrath of Rama Khan (Supergirl 5x8)

The One in which: Supergirl fight Rama Khan and Lena humanity.

95, Written by: Lindsay Struman, Jessica Kardos, Directed by: Marcus Stokes

167. Life Sentence (Arrow 6x23)

The One in which: Oliver makes a decision.

138, Written by: Wendy Mercile, Marc Guggenheim, Directed by: James Bamford

166. Truth, Justice and the Amercian Way (Supergirl 1x14)

The One in which: Former inmates get hunted.

14, Written by: Michael Grassi, Yahlin Chang, Caitlin Parrish, Directed by: Lexi Alexander

165. Armageddon Part 5 (The Flash 8x5)

The One in which: Mia is there and Eobard needs to die oder doesn’t he?

156, Written by: Kristen Kim, Directed by: Menhaj Huda

164. Non Est Asylum (Constantine 1x01)

The One in which: John Constantine enters the scene.

1, Written by: Daniel Cerone, David S. Goyer , Directed by: Neil Marshall

163. Anti-Hero (Superman & Lois 2x7)

The One in which: Kal-El leaves and Tal-Rho gets a cellmate.

22, Written by: Max Cunningham, Michael Narducci, Directed by: Elizabeth Henstridge

162. Rogue Time (The Flash 1x16)

The One in which: Snart brings his sister to the party.

16, Written by: Grainne Godfree, Brooke Eikmeier, Kai Yu Wu, Directed by: John Behring

161. Purgatory (Arrow 8x7)

The One in which: There are zombies on Lian Yu.

167, Written by: Rebecca Bellotto, Rebecca Rosenberg, Directed by: James Bamford

160. Man of Steel (Supergirl 4x3)

The One in which: Agent Liberty is born.

68, Written by: Rob Wright, Derek Simon, Directed by: Jesse Warn

159. Attack on Gorilla City (The Flash 3x13)

The One in which: Julian has a „Planet of the Apes“-Experience.

59, Written by: Andrew Kreisberg, Aaron Helbing, David Kob, Directed by: Dermott Downs

158. Revenge oft he Rogues (The Flash 1x10)

The One in which: Snart and Rory kidnap Caitlin to lure The Flash out.

10, Written by: Geoff Johns, Kai Yu Wu, Directed by: Nick Copus

157. How queer is everything today (Batwoman 1x10)

The One in which: Batwoman comes out.

10, Written by: Caroline Dries, Directed by: Jeff Hunt

156. A New World Part 1: Reunions (The Flash 9x10)

The One in which: Barry meets his parents again.

181, Written by: Eric Wallace, Thomas Pound, Directed by: Eric Wallace

155. A Head of Her Time (Legends of Tomorrow 5x4)

The One in which: Marie Antoinette looses her head.

72, Written by: Morgan Faust, Directed by: Avi Youbain

154. Paranoid Android (Legends of Tomorrow 7x8)

The One in which: The Legends find out they are not real.

105, Written by: Phil Klemmer, Marcelena Campos Mayhorn, Directed by: David Geddes

153. Man of Steel (Superman & Lois 1x7)

The One in which:We find out the truth about Steel.

7, Written by: Jai Jamison, Directed by: David Ramsey

152. Welcome to Hong Kong (Arrow 8x2)

The One in which: Oliver and Tatsu team up in Hong Kong.

162, Written by: Jill Blankenship, Sarak Tarkoff, Directed by: Antonio Negret

151. Daddy Darhkest (Legends of Tomorrow 3x10)

The One in which: Constantine meets the Legends.

43, Written by: Keto Shimizu, Matthew Maala, Directed by: Dermott Downs

[afaimsarrowverse]

250(ish) Favorite Arrowverse Episodes: Part 8: 75-51

Picked from „Arrow“, „Black Lightning“, „Supergirl“, „Legends of Tomorrow“, „The Flash“, „Barwoman“ Season 1+2 and „Superman & Lois“ Season 1+2. I did consider kicking „Superman & Lois“ of this list, but since it pretended to be part of the Arrowverse for its first two seasons I left it on here.

 75.  Zari, Not Zari (L5x8)

76, Written by: Morgan Faust, Tyron B. Carter, Directed by: Kevin Mock

 „You can't kill me. I'm a god.“

„Yeah? I've faced worse.“

 74.  Freakshow (Legends of Tomorrow 3x2)

35, Written by: Keto Shimizu, Grainne Godfree, Directed by: Kevin Tancharoen

 "We're bringing the circus to the circus."

 73.  The Magician (Arrow 3x4)

50, Written by: Wendy Mercile, Marc Guggenheim, Directed by: John Behring

 "I apologize for involving you in this. My quarrel is with your father." "My father's been dead for years, you crazy psycho bitch." "Not Robert Queen. Your true father—Al Sa-Her. 'The Magician.' Known to the uninitiated as Malcolm Merlyn."

 72.  Crisis on Infinite Earths 1-5

Part 1: Supergirl Episode 5.9/96, Written by: Robert Rovner, Marc Guggenheim, Derek Simon, Jay Faerber, Directed by: Jesse Warn, Part 2: Batwoman Episode 1.9/9, Written by: Din Whitehead, Holly Henderson, Directed by: Laura Belsey, Part 3: The Flash Episode 6.9/123, Written By: Lauren Certo, Sterling Gates, Eric Wallace, Directed By: David McWhirter, Part 4: Arrow: Episode 8.8/168, Written by: Marv Wolfman, Marc Guggenheim; Directed by: Glen Winter, Part 5: Legends of Tomorrow Episode 5.0/68, Written by: Keto Shimizu, Ubah Mohamed, Directed by: Gregory Smith

 "It was not supposed to be like this. This is not his ending I foresaw."

"Things are turning out differently than expected. But one thing is certain. Everything we know... everything there is... and everything there ever was... is doomed."

 "You have suffered a horrible loss, but you have every reason not to lose hope. Seven in fact. Across space and time exist seven heroes, Beings of the purest will, who can ultimately defeat the Anti-Monitor, and help save the multiverse. They are known as Paragons."

 "It is time... to end the age of heroes, and everything you hold close."

 "You have failed this universe!"

 "Oliver died so that we could continue to fight. He sacrificed everything for this new world, and we will not fail him. We will not fail this world. For Oliver."

 71.  The Getaway (Legends of Tomorrow 4x10)

61, Written by: Matthew Maala, Ubah Mohamed, Directed by: Viet Nguyen

 "At least we got a road trip, at least it was with you guys. You know, maybe that's what "family" is: the people you don't mind being annoyed by."

 70.  Midvale (Supergirl 3x6)

48, Written by: Caitlin Parrish, Jess Kardos, Directed by: Rob Greenlea

 "That was the first time I really became Kara Danvers." "It's a good thing, too. Got us through the next 10 years."

"Think I remember... thinking I would never feel at home on Earth. I still don't, in a way. But I feel at home with you." "Always."

 69.  For the Girl who has everything (Supergirl 1x13)

13, Written by: Andrew Kreisberg, Ted Sullivan, Derek Simon, Directed by: Dermott Downs

 "Kara Zor-El is at peace, which is more than she deserves. She has everything her heart desires."

 68.  Aruba-Con (Legends of Tomorrow 3x1)

34, Written by: Phil Klemmer, Marc Guggenheim, Directed by: Rob Seidenglanz

 "You don't think you need us anymore. Look Rip, this is our mess. You have to let us fix it."

"Using your team to fix anything is like doing brain surgery with a chainsaw."

 67.  Crisis on Earth X 1-4

 Part 1: Supergirl 3.8/ 50, Written by: Robert Rovner, Jessica Queller, Andrew Kreisberg, Marc Guggenheim, Directed by: Larry Teng, Part 2: Arrow 6.8/ 123, Written by: Wendy Mercile, Ben Sokolowski, Marc Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, Directed by: James Bamford, Part 3: The Flash4.8/77, Written by: Todd Helbing, Andrew Kreisberg, Marc Guggenheim, Directed by: Dermott Daniel Downs, Part 4: Legends of Tomorrow 3.8/21, Written by: Phil Klemmer, Keto Shimizu, Marc Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, Directed by: Greogry Smith

"Best wedding ever!"

 "This is sick."

"You mean looking at your reflection and seeing only weakness? I agree."

 "It's hard to believe a place like this actually exists, on any Earth."

"I wish I shared your sentiment. But in all my travels to distant times, one thing that sadly remains constant is man's ability to feel hatred for other men."

 "When you think about it... compared to the cosmos, one's life is but a blink of an eye."

 66.  Here I go again (Legends of Tomorrow 3x11)

44, Written by: Ray Utarnachitt, Morgan Faust, Directed by: Ben Bray

 "I have spent so much time with you guys. You're my family now. You deserve to be happy and if I can be a small part of making that happen, then this will be worth it."

 65.  Unthinkable (Arrow 2x23)

46, Written by: Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, Directed by: John Behring

 "To fight the unthinkable, you have to be willing to do the unthinkable."

 64.  Luthors (Supergirl 2x12)

32, Written by: Robert Rovner, Cindy Lichtman, Directed by: Tawnia McKiernan

 "People don't remember this, Kara, but Clark and Lex Luthor used to be best friends. For years. And Clark believed in Lex for the longest time. No matter what people said. No matter what kind of proof he saw with his own eyes. No. Lex was his friend. But Clark was wrong."

"Lena is not Lex."

 63.  Checkmate (Arrow 5x16)

108, Written by: Beth Schwartz, Sarah Tarkoff, Directed by: Ken Shane

 "Oh... I'm ten steps ahead of you and you haven't even figured out what game we're playing yet."

 62.  The Virgin Gary (Legends of Tomorrow 4x1)

52, Written by: Phil Klemmer, Grainee Godfree, Directed by: Gregory Smith

 "Well, not to pressure you, but the entire fate of the Sexual Revolution is in the balance here."

"That is my favorite revolution."

 61.  The Man Under the Hood (Arrow 2x19)

42. Written by: Greg Berlanti, Geoff Johns, Andrew Kreisberg, Keto Shimizu, Directed by: Jesse Warn

 "'Cause if I knew who he really was, then he'd become a person, right? Maybe he's got a family. Friends. People that care about him. Someone with a life. That he couldn't be what I needed him to be. What this city needs him to be. It's the Arrow that matters. The man under the hood isn't important. Look at me. Can you imagine what it's like to be him? What he has to live with day in and day out, what that's gotta be like? Hey. The least I can do is sit here and do a little bit of time for him."

 60.  Welcome to Earth (Supergirl 2x3)

23, Written by: Jessica Queller, Derek Simon, Directed by: Rachel Talalay

 "Do the Hatfields mention the McCoys?"

"I take it your two planets didn't get along?"

 59.  Witch Hunt (Legends of Tomorrow 4x2)

53, Written by: Keto Shimizu, Matthew Maalaa, Directed by: Kevin Mock

 "People always fear what they don't understand. And that fear turns them into monsters. But we can't let it turn us into monsters, too. We have to be better than them."

 58.  Helen Hunt (Legends of Tomorrow 3x6)

39, Written by: Keto Shimizu, Ubah Mohamed, Directed by: David Geddes

 "Wait... You're that talent agent from the party."

"I assure you, I am something far more ruthless than a Hollywood agent."

 57.  Deathstroke (Arrow 2x18)

41, Written by: Marc Guggenheim, Drew Z. Greenberg, Directed by: Guy Bee

 "They're calling you Deathstroke."

"That's a bit flamboyant. I like it."

 56.  Present Tense (Arrow 8x4)

164, Written by: Oscar Balderrama, Jeane Wong, Directed by: Kristin Windell

 "Someone told me the only way to change the future is to start doing things differently now."

 55.  Phone Home (Legends of Tomorrow 3x4)

37, Written by: Matthew Maala, Directed By: Kevin Mock

 "You know, I felt alone for a long time. So long, that I just figured that's how things were going to be. It turns out there were people out there for me that I didn't even know I wanted. You'll find your people too, I promise. You just have to keep believing that things will be okay, even when it's hard."

 54.  Supergirl Lives (Supergirl 2x9)

29, Written by: Andrew Kreisberg, Eric Carrasco, Jess Kardos, Directed by: Kevin Smith

 "Imagine my excitement when one of my fighters told me about Slaver's Moon. I jumped at the opportunity to help expand its market."

 53.  Heir to the Demon (Arrow 2x13)

36, Written by: Jake Coburn, Directed by: Wendey Stanzler

 "We all have to keep secrets, Ms. Smoak."

 52.  Tagumo Attacks!!! (Legends of Tomorrow 4x5)

56, Written by: Keto Simizu, Ubah Mohamend, Directed by: Alexandra LaRoche

 "Guys. I think we're gonna need a bigger timeship."

 51.  Honor Thy Fathers (Arrow 5x21)

113, Written by: Marc Guggenheim, Directed by: Laura Belsey

 " What I can tell you is that nearly ten years ago, in a moment of... of immense courage, Robert Queen chose to sacrifice himself so that I might live. So that I had the opportunity to leave behind a better legacy than he did. So that I might return and one day serve this city. Today, we took a step forward. With help from the Green Arrow and his team, the Throwing Star Killer is now behind bars, and our streets are a little safer. Tomorrow, we'll take another step forward. The day after, we will take another one."

[habibialkaysani]

I asked about karolsen getting retconned in season 2 in favour of mayo el. mehcad brooks basically said he had the same question and that it was due to how certain people saw the show who are no longer there (which sounds like kreisberg). I also called man hell a misogynistic piece of crap which was maybe ill-advised lmao.

[hoytjessicatara]

Oliver and Felicity who are rich as hell gave a fucking coffee maker to Westallen after ruining their wedding

[abberryyang]

Me before it was revealed that Guggenheim is a sexist, misogynistic, pig to every female character:

Me after it was revealed that Kreisberg sexually harasses his female co-workers, real women, and has been getting away with it for years:

Me when I found out Kreisberg is already on suspension:

Me after it was revealed that Guggenheim has approved of Kreisberg’s behavior and is jealous of him; and is also a sexist, misogynistic, pig to *real women*:

Me protecting Katie Cassidy and Danielle Panabaker from the stans trying to accuse them of sleeping into their jobs:

Me when Guggenheim thinks he is safe from being on the on the chopping block:

Me now that they are both going on the chopping block:

[oathkeptroxas]

To all the olicity fans who are now USING THE DCTV SEXUAL HARASSMENT SCANDAL as a means to unjustly hate Katie Cassidy because she apparently knows Kreisberg’s wife; y'all are fucking trash.

These same people are the ones who cheered on Guggenheim (who is now also outed as a predator) every time he furthered their agenda despite those actions also stinking of misogyny.

Direct your anger at the culprits and take a good long look in the fucking mirror and recognize where your support has strengthened a toxic man’s platform, and your consistent need to hate Katie for breathing quite often overlaps with your support of that man.

It’s really not too far a stretch to assume that you need to in some way blame or project onto Katie because you recognize that you turned a blind-eye to a lot of the red flags in Guggenheim’s case because they helped further a narrative you supported where Katie was concerned. Maybe its easier for you to pretend shes somehow magically at fault than it is for you to self-evaluate. But this isnt about things being easy for you. Check your-fucking-selves.

#FireKreisberg #FireGuggenheim

[rheanixent]

fire andr*w forever and hire a woc lgbt instead

[habibialkaysani]

have you seen the post that says: any DC show: *does something horrible* Fandom: Guggenheim

I haven’t, but big fucking mood, anon. guggenheim and kreisberg can both choke as far I’m concerned. their shitty executive decisions have meant characters have been assassinated both figuratively and literally. kreisberg is almost definitely the reason why ralph exists as he does on flash and why mon el was so awful on sg. so yeah. I feel this post a lot even if I haven’t seen it lol.

[hoytjessicatara]

[ohmypreciousgirl]

andrew kreisberg is back on arrow crew?

can he like crawl back to whatever hell hole he was currently in? 

@ God please just keep him away from my babies

[augustheart]

andrew kreisberg retire bitch

[deputy-ajay-ghale]

Me @ Kreisbeg: Why would you make the love of my life, Wallace West, cry? What did he ever do to you??

[oathkeptroxas]

Sorry for the typos. I was too angry to check before tweeting #FireKreisberg #FireGuggenheim

[sirenfrost]

DC, Andrew and Ryan are the villains of my life.

[romanogersgirl]

WA’s Aftermath in 5x18

There are 3 things that will happen to them when the show comes back.

1. The heated argument leading to their divorce. The only realistic scenario after Nora's betrayal scene. Story-wise it makes perfect sense because the show has been building WA to go nowhere. It’s the only ship I know that is built on sand. They wrote Viris to be an utter virus, controlling and manipulating bitch and made Barry her bitch along the way. Barry's reaction to Nora's exposing was finally a moment where Viris had no control over. Barry reacted like any normal person let alone father would to finding out their own flesh and blood had been lying to their face this entire time. Divorce seems to be headed for WA anyway and I find this choice the most likely, if they are smart with their writing, it's inevitable. 2. The heated argument leading to Barry's submission to Nora and Viris' toxic behavior. This one can happen out of fear. The writers are deathly afraid to pull the plug on WA breaking up over fake racist accusations. Being a Snowbarry shipper, I can tell you that I sympathize with them, but only to an extent. The show has lost a lot of money in marketing, advertising and overall budget due to SJW identity politics pandering and they have to be smart with their business decisions to benefit the future of the show. Because right now, WA still being together, Viris still attached to Barry, controlling his every action, thought and friendship circle, doesn't look good to the regular viewers who just want to want a decent superhero show. You can see it in Grant's eyes whenever he’s near Danielle and Carlos, he wants the show to return to its roots. Snowbarrisco, Barry's CSI, science jargon, good action sequences and solid story telling. WA and now their kid have taken over too much of the show for too long. If they choose this, it’s suicide made over fear of a bullying group of loud race baiting losers. 3. Nothing happens. The "heated exchange" gets abruptly interrupted. I fear this one might happen for a couple of reasons and it's the same reason why I attack Todd Helbing and the writers constantly. When is anything going to be resolved on the show? When are things going to be explained in the story in real time? When are the writers going to stop making excuses due to time restraints, useless pep talk drama and C plots hogging over what we really want to see? Todd is a shitty show runner who doesn’t plan his ideas. The problem was he was thrown into the head chair due to what happened with AJK, which ironically, when he was the main show runner, it was more tolerable. With a new show runner for next season, I hope this doesn't happen and they will explain key elements to their story arcs without confusing their audience. The WA mishap should have been resolved a long time ago. Perhaps this option won't happen and #1 is what takes place. One can only hope the writers and show runner care enough to give us what we want with the scenes and characters.

With Danielle Panabaker directing and editing the episode, I have high hopes but we should all be prepared for any scenario that may come about.

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