#anotherholic

[studentofetherium]

I think I saw you post something about how AnotherHolic was like an early draft of Monogatari but where do you think Mahou Shoujo Risuka stands in nisio's early work? Riskuka is obviously an early draft of Kiss-Shot/Shinobu, but I'm not sure how the story structure and themes connect with the stuff he would go on to write.

As far as I can tell, it was a short-lived series that borrowed from a lot of other popular light novelists of the time, but I wondered if you had any perspective as a fellow Faust reader.

Also have you read the Risuka manga by Emoto Nao?

I've read the Risuka manga (or what's translated of it), but that's my only familiarity with it. I don't really have a firm grasp on it as a series, other than it feels like Nisioisin being pessimistic to an extent not usually seen in his works. he's very often pessimistic, but something like Zaragoto is much more restrained with it in comparison. Shounen Shoujo feels like the only real comparison in that sense

the aging/de-aging aspect isn't something i had connected, but that's interesting

[ccborrega]

 The Anotherholic novel has quite some tidbits of randomness that I sadly haven’t seen anyone commenting so here I go (And keep in mind I don’t know how much you can rely on this one as it was written by someone other than CLAMP? But it seems they were involved.) :

Yuuko mentions ‘English gentlemen are the most honorable ones out there, they’d never be up to anything suspicious’ which is funny considering the one British guy she’s shown to know is precisely the opposite.

She’s also apparently really good at breaking codes- not magically, either. There is also something to how she’s apparently a really fast texter but in ‘Rou’ Watanuki says pressing the keys gets on his nerves, like- it’s funny the senior of them is better with tech than the junior.

She’s CONSTANTLY MAKING PUNS (They’re untranslatable most of the time but still.) much to Watanuki’s chagrin. You don’t understand, Yuuko making silly puns that make Watanuki want to murder is one of my favorite headcanons.

Watanuki can sense when people are having rude thoughts about him. It’s for comedic effect, I think but there ARE some hints to his sealed powers being still present in aspects where they’re there to warn him of things that could be bad for him, so it may be part of that (Which makes the whole thing with Himawari so much more WORSE.) 

Going back to the rude thoughts- he usually pins it on either Yuuko or Doumeki.

Apparently, at one point Watanuki lost all of what he’d fared in Yuuko’s shop thanks to his big mouth- he made a gamble that if shiritori ever saved his life, he’d happily give away what he’d earned thus far.

Yuuko keeps calling him ‘My Watanuki’. (Not sure if it’s a different translation from the ‘Our Watanuki’ used in the manga to imply his ‘Belonging’ to the shop, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t fucking melt.)

She also calls him ‘My adorable Watanuki’ but I’m not sure how serious she’s being there.

The single best exchange between them, hands down: ‘Now you’re starting to scare me.’ ‘I exist to scare you’.

There’s this joke I’m not sure I understand where she says two times in a row that she ‘Won’t give him a raise’, but the second time ‘Raise’ is in italics and my perv ass mind immediately went to the gutter. Looking up the word for ‘Raise’ and whether it had alternate meanings didn’t help much as it apparently has a ton, ranging from ‘To give someone an updo’ to ‘To bear a child’ going through ‘To fry’. In any case it seems like she’s implying something improper. Watanuki’s reaction being that he’s uncomfortable she’s making it sound ‘Real’ makes me lean towards that even more.

Yuuko owns a ten-gallon hat... and wears it indoors. To lay around on her sofa.

Apparently, the reason she smart-mouths him so much is she doesn’t want him to get a big head- which if we consider how powerful he’ll become in the future, is not entirely a bad call.

Another exchange ‘If I am forced to eat something besides flowing somen today, I may well die.’ ‘Glad to hear it.’ Kid. KID. I don’t know if the writer knew back then where this was going but oof those words are gonna haunt you.

Watanuki vowed to himself never to become like her at some point. I can’t tell if it’s more sad or funny.

The ‘Aerosol’ chapter of the novel is where the thing about his dislike of Doumeki on first sight being because the spirits were influencing his mood and keeping him away from the one thing that could help him draw them away came from. I’d seen that mentioned by fans before but wasn’t sure where it had come from. Though in terms of his character and furthermore the ‘Curse’ placed on him by Fei Wong , it made sense for Watanuki to reject someone that might save him and be attracted to someone that might kill him instead, so I accepted it.

There’s also a thing about how his beef with Doumeki is ‘He has what Watanuki wants and doesn’t have what Watanuki doesn’t want.’ but that one sounds like he’s just rationalized the visceral reaction.

‘Had he ever felt that keenly about anyone? He had good friends, and he had a family. He had a girl he liked. But were his feelings for them so powerful that he would make them into ghosts if they died? He might have eyes that could see spirits. But that did not mean they could see who was important to him.’ OK nevermind the writer KNEW.

Add ‘You think I’d be involved in anything GOOD?’ to the golden Yuuko quotes list.

Also apparently Watanuki thinks if he were to stop coming to the shop she’d starve. She does make a comment to that effect earlier on so he’s not entirely being sarcastic.

For a moment there, Watanuki thinks he’s paid enough to be able to stop working for Yuuko and just like in my wildest fanfiction dreams, he’s not happy.  He gets sad that he’s never going to see her again and that he couldn’t even get to thank her, feed her one last time and say goodbye properly and can you tell I’m dead? ‘cause I am. 

In the same instance, he finds he no longer finds Doumeki repellent and getting to know him better sounds like ‘A dandy idea’. Which I guess is because this seems to be timed BEFORE the ghost lady that made him sick and they aren’t really all that close just yet. Otherwise I think he’d try to stick to status quo a bit more.

The fact that he sees spirits bothers and terrifies Watanuki not because of the spirits themselves but because it makes him different from everyone else and he DESPERATELY wants to feel he belongs. Am I crying? Yes.

Around the end, it seems to also be the first instance where Watanuki asks Yuuko if there is any wish he wants him to grant for her. Followed by her asking jokingly (Or not?) if this is his first step in a campaign to take the shop from her?. Um. Ouch.

Also, Yuuko hints at Watanuki’s wish of losing the ability to see spirits ultimately not making him happy if it’s granted. Which we now know is probably right.

[lovelylemontrash]

real niche meme hours

[hetheywatanuki]

xxxHOLiC ANOTHERHOLiC

[survivinglifenow-blog]

#lokishole #anotherhole (at Lagan Tow Path) https://www.instagram.com/p/CBEWpF0B4Qi/?igshid=1xc0aqxabfl72

[babyawacs]

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[clarislam]

Reading List as of August 27th, 2017:

Book reviews one can expect in the next while:

“Memory Wall” by Anthony Doerr  

“Siege 13″ by Tamas Dobozy

“The Word Exchange” by Alena Graedon

“Bay of Sighs” by Nora Roberts

“Island of Glass” by Nora Roberts

“The Devil is a Part-Timer!” Vol. 6″ by Satoshi Wagahara

“Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?” Vol. 4″ by Fujino Omori and illustrated by Suzuhito Yasuda

“Hotel Ruby” by Suzanne Young

“Y” by Marjorie Celona

“Eat Pray Love” by Elizabeth Gilbert

“To All The Boys I’ve Loved Before” by Jenny Han

“P.S. I Still Love You” by Jenny Han

“Roses and Rot” by Kat Howard

“Little Red” by Bethan Woolvin

“Lord of the Sky” by Linda Zeman-Spanely

“Lizard” by Banana Yoshimoto

“Let’s Dance A Waltz: Volume 1″ by Natsumi Ando    

Books I’m currently reading:

“Anotherholic” by Nisio Isin 

“The Crane Wife” by Patrick Ness

Books I will read eventually:

“The Lake” by Banana Yoshimoto

“Men Without Women” by Haruki Murakami

“The Storyteller” by Evan Turk

“Just Ella” by Margaret Peterson Haddix

“The Rest Of Us Just Live Here” by Patrick Ness

[shazzeaslightnovels]

Was cleaning out some of my old shit today and found a volume of Viz Media’s release of the Shakugan no Shana light novels. I’m sure the translation is... awkward, to say the least but I kind of want to give it a reread.

Also found volumes of Haruhi Suzumiya (up until The Surprise), xxxHolic: AnotherHolic and the first volume of A Certain Magical Index (I really do not remember buying this and I’m guessing I never even read it), among too may manga to count. I have no idea what I’m going to do with them yet. Probably, I’ll give them a reread before trying to sell them.

[yuerabbit]

Re-reading this cool book. I don't remember how most of the stories go, but that section of writing has always had such a big impact on me; ever since I read this particular story years and years ago, I've always been incredible uncomfortable and self aware of how much "I's" I use in a section of text; especially if I catch myself doing it unintentionally.

[nutella-chan]

Self-centered people prefer to control everything, to organize everything so that they are in charge, to try and claim all the credit, and to give up completely if their opinion does not win out. Everyone knows this. But that is not all. Quit a lot of people who seem to be quite to opposite - people who think everyone is out to get them, people who think they are causing problems for everyone else, people who doubt themselfs, people who sacrifice themselfs - all of these people are also extremely self-centered. They ony think about themselfs. I. Me. Myself. Feeling responsible for everything - believing it is all your fault. How arrogant was that? How self-important? Taking blame that rightfully belonged to others, burdened by guilt that should be carried by others, stealing other people's work.

- NISIOISIN, XXXHOLiC: ANOTHER HOLIC (Under-HOLiC)

[studentofetherium]

Out of interest, have you ever read any of the stuff NISIOISIN wrote as a spin-off for a pre-existing property, like Death Note Another Note: The Los Angeles BB Murders, xxxHOLiC: AnotherHOLiC or Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Over Heaven?

i've read all of them!

i'm not a Death Note fan, so a lot of the appeal behind Another Note would be lost on me, but i thought it was an entirely enjoyable Nisioisin mystery. it's a bit on the mundane side, but the names make up for it

i'm a big fan of AnotherHOLiC. it was written just before Nisioisin began publishing Monogatari, and you can absolutely see it as the blueprint for what Bake would become, especially the first three arcs. the stories themselves are fun, and in the week after i read it, i read all of xxxHolic, which i loved even more

Over Heaven is a book Nisioisin was born to write. the way he gets into the head of Dio and crafts the inner workings of this absolute bastard. it's a novel so well suited for Nisoisin's style that it's practically a perfect pairing. as a pretty big JoJo's fan, i also like how it fleshes Dio out and gives more depth to the background of Stone Ocean

[xnightrainx]

Books I got today:

1. Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter by Seth Grahame-Smith: Bought this because it sounds pretty interesting; not to mention that the film version (with Tim Burton's adaptation) is very soon coming to the cinema. The movie tie-in version is surprisingly a lot cheaper than the unabridged one which is currently out of stock, though.  

2. AnotherHolic: xxxHolic novel book by Nisioisin. The same author as Death Note: Another Note. Illustration by CLAMP. Belated B-day gift from taiki-taiki. Thank you very much, nee-san! The cover is really beautiful. <3

3. ไขปริศนา เรื่องแปลกระทึกโลก โดย นพ.กฤษดา ศิรามพุช A collection of strange stories. Belated B-day gift from zearozeen. Thank you to you too. I find the stories quite intriguing!  Current Wish List:

The illustrated version of The Lord of the Rings: Saw it at the bookstore today! OMFG! I really need to get my hand on these!!! You just wait!!! ><  

[cereusblooming]

No, ghosts are real. You can see them, touch them, and hear them. But they do not exist. Which is why science ignores them. But to claim they are a fabrication and do not exist because science ignores them is a mistake. Because ghosts are real.

Natsuhiko Kyogoku, Ubume No Hatsu

[fuckyeahyuukoichihara]

—heartless eyes. My first impression of the black-haired woman, Yuko Ichihara, settled on that phrase. —frightening eyes. —cruel eyes. —bewitching eyes. —hard eyes. —eyes that looked at you as though you were less than human. —eyes that looked at you from the other side. —eyes that looked right through you. —eyes that appraised you. —eyes that measured the world in reverse. —eyes that denied the way of the world. That sort of eyes.

Nisioisin, Anotherholic

[clarislam]

Reading List as of August 26th, 2017:

Book reviews one can expect in the next while:

“Memory Wall” by Anthony Doerr  

“Siege 13″ by Tamas Dobozy

“The Word Exchange” by Alena Graedon

“Bay of Sighs” by Nora Roberts

“Island of Glass” by Nora Roberts

“The Devil is a Part-Timer!” Vol. 6″ by Satoshi Wagahara

“Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?” Vol. 4″ by Fujino Omori and illustrated by Suzuhito Yasuda

“Hotel Ruby” by Suzanne Young

“Y” by Marjorie Celona

“Eat Pray Love” by Elizabeth Gilbert

“To All The Boys I’ve Loved Before” by Jenny Han

“P.S. I Still Love You” by Jenny Han

“Roses and Rot” by Kat Howard

“Little Red” by Bethan Woolvin

“Lord of the Sky” by Linda Zeman-Spanely

“Lizard” by Banana Yoshimoto

Books I’m currently reading:

“Anotherholic” by Nisio Isin

“Let’s Dance A Waltz: Volume 1″ by Natsumi Ando  

Books I will read eventually:

“The Lake” by Banana Yoshimoto

“Men Without Women” by Haruki Murakami

“The Storyteller” by Evan Turk

“Just Ella” by Margaret Peterson Haddix

“The Rest Of Us Just Live Here” by Patrick Ness

“The Crane Wife” by Patrick Ness

[clarislam]

Reading List as of August 23rd, 2017:

Book reviews one can expect in the next while:

“A Voice in the Night” by Andrea Camilleri (The review for this will be posted on Saturday!)

“Memory Wall” by Anthony Doerr  

“Siege 13″ by Tamas Dobozy

“The Word Exchange” by Alena Graedon

“Bay of Sighs” by Nora Roberts

“Island of Glass” by Nora Roberts

“The Devil is a Part-Timer!” Vol. 6″ by Satoshi Wagahara

“Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?” Vol. 4″ by Fujino Omori and illustrated by Suzuhito Yasuda

“Hotel Ruby” by Suzanne Young

“Y” by Marjorie Celona

“Eat Pray Love” by Elizabeth Gilbert

“To All The Boys I’ve Loved Before” by Jenny Han

“P.S. I Still Love You” by Jenny Han

“Roses and Rot” by Kat Howard

“Little Red” by Bethan Woolvin

Books I’m currently reading:

“Lizard” by Banana Yoshimoto

Books I will read eventually:

“The Lake” by Banana Yoshimoto

“Anotherholic” by Nisio Isin

“Men Without Women” by Haruki Murakami

“The Storyteller” by Evan Turk

“Lord of the Sky” by Linda Zeman-Spanely