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WiP Wednesday
its tabletop night, so here, have this. I need to stop looking at it tho, must purge the durgetash brainrot for the night so I can try to murder my players effectively.
A little bit of my Durge Belladonna being a weird freak at Gortash, more of which can be found here on my AO3!
"Is she still alive, my dear Belladonna?”
Belladonna blinked, tilting her head to stare down at Enver. He took the wine back from her hand, their fingers brushing. Reflexively her hand withdrew the instant they touched. Her attention drifted back to Lady Janneth, still lying sprawled on the bed, under the blanket. Oh, he thought she’d–
“Why would I kill your toys?” she asked, attention drawn back to him as he sipped the wine. Ugh, the hair. Her eyes kept being drawn back, obsessively. “It’s only a sleep spell.”
“Why would you follow me to my lover’s home, watch me bed her, and then sneak into the still-occupied bed to read her diary? Every conclusion a sane man would draw from your actions would offend you deeply.”
“Then don’t say it,” she said blandly.
“Why did you follow me?” Enver was staring at her with the intensity of a man who expected eye contact.
What a pointless question. “To see where you were going.”
“Why did you enter the room?”
“Again, to see where you were going. And then I was eavesdropping. While I was doing that, the door was closed, thus trapping me within. To answer your next three very pointed questions.”
“You can’t convince me that you don’t have a dozen ways you could have escaped, Belladonna.”
She shifted her weight, uncrossing and re-crossing her legs, table pressing into the back of her thigh. “You only use the name you made up for me this often when you’re truly annoyed. I didn’t know you would care. You’ve seen me have sex several times.”
“Depending on the definition of the word, that may not be entirely true. In my mind, sex involves at least two willing participants.”
“Yes, the con man and the dupe.”
Enver laughed quietly, giving up the facade of being angry with her. Yes, he was irritated, but she’d noticed he very rarely was angry. At least not with her. He reached for the other wine-stained glass, poured from a pitcher of water into it, swirled it until the wine had all turned the water pink. Then he dumped it out on the floor. “Your standards of behavior are not at all normal, my dear Bhaalspawn, did you know that?”
“What exactly is wrong with wanting to know where people are going?” she inquired, wondering why he thought it was all right to pour water on the floor. Was that what he meant by behavior standards?
He poured her clean water into the glass and offered it over, stem tucked between his fingers. She accepted it, dipping her finger into the liquid and wiping off the rim. It still didn’t feel clean even despite the lack of smudges, so she just held it.
He leaned forward in his chair, staring up at her with a critical air and a relaxed posture. “Anyone else would have stopped me in the street, said hello, and asked where I was off to.”
“That would be a waste of the man I’d killed three alleys over,” she said, glancing down as he leaned a little closer, chin on his hand. And then she immediately averted her eyes before she was upset again.
“Do you do this often?”
“Yes? I must practice what I preach, after all, or I would not be much of a leader. Much like yourself. Following and watching people is an important part of being a successful killer.”
“I meant to me, not– why won’t you look at me?”
“Your hair is a mess and it makes me want to scalp you,” she admitted without even a moment’s pause to consider if she’d offend him. By now she knew he wouldn’t be.
“Thank you for your self-control. I’ll fix it right away. Hold this for me.”
Puzzled, she extended her hand by rote, and he dropped something into it as he rose. Heavy and still warm from his finger, the massive diamond ring he’d handed her was the one she’d watched Wisteria slide onto his finger. It was shiny and all, she supposed.
“Why give this to me?”
“I wanted to see your reaction to it,” he replied with another chuckle, crossing the floor to what seemed to be a dressing table and a desk in one. “You don’t care about such things, do you?”
“I’ve seen larger and shinier stones. I usually give them to Orin to play with if they’re not worthy of the coffers. Children like toys." Though Orin was always terribly ungrateful for it; but that was a youngest child for you. Always yelling about not being your sibling and trying to stab you. "I don’t handle money, that’s beneath me. You seemed quite enamored of it.”
“Not of it, my dearest Belladonna. Of what it is. That ring is worth more than this entire house!” He sounded quite satisfied. Gloating was one of Enver’s biggest vices, she’d learned. It didn’t bother her to be his audience for a bit of smugness, as she was quite often when he was feeling self-important.
And he was always feeling self-important.
#bg3#baldur's gate 3#wip wednesday#durgetash#durge x gortash#durge: Belladonna#weirdest little freak ever stands over you invisible while you fuck#and yet you still want her#who's the freak here gort
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Council of lovefools.
[First] Prev <–-> Next
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang yanli#jiang cheng#They don't have an actual sleepover in this scene but the vibes were so sleepover coded...I had to get them cozied up.#Late night talks with friends and family are some of the best conversations.#My siblings and I used to have room sleepovers with each other (Actually an excuse to stay up and talk about runescape)#Currently my flatmates and I also have really great heart to hearts late into the night.#Pondering shit like 'What defines confidence?“ and ”Why are people terrified of letting themselves fall in love?"#All that aside; There is a really great conversation between JC and WWX here. They are so close and yet so far way from each other!#Fundamentally they *agree* about many things - but JC now has to play the role of someone more 'mature'.#His temper is reigned in and he had to take a more nuanced approach. Whereas WWX can be far more reactionary.#JC has changed to become someone more mature (or at least he is trying).#Contrast this attitude with the scene *right* after where WWX literally goes baby mode with JYL. Rolling around going “I'm Fwee years old”.#When children are hurt we comfort them with hugs and warm food and a laugh. It's not enough when you're an adult. It's not simple anymore.#WWX is stuck in the past when everyone else is shifting and moving on! It's a depression allegory (and just...actual depression)#But we also get to see how some things have stayed the same. They still bicker about soup. They still tease. They are still together.#They all care for each other very much but they are struggling against trauma and are not equipped to talk about it.#You can't really blame WWX for being so protective over JYL. But JC is right: “You don't have a say in who she likes.”#It may have started as an arranged marriage but *she* is *choosing* what her heart wants. JC sees that. WWX cannot.#The final act of love is letting go after all.
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"Alastor is a villain because he chained poor Husk 🥺"
I think you all forget THIS is the Husk that made the deal with Alastor:
The Husk that was so careless and selfish that was gambling SOULS, to the point he gambled his own soul away to save his powers.
#gives me puss in boots/death dynamic#hazbin hotel#alastor#hazbin hotel husk#like im sorry to tell you husk was not a good guy#nobody is lmao that's why they are in Hell#just because husk has 'feelings' for angel doesnt exclude him for being a dick#which he still was until the finale#please just because a character suddenly falls in love doesng make them 'good'#it's the same with Lilith#several defending her just because she was 'in love' with Lucifer#newsflash: romance doesnt make you a good person#and it bothers me greatly how fans dismiss husk's past#SPECIALLY because of huskerdust#he still has yet to show he wants to change for himself
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totally lore-accurate swanqueen screencap redraws 4/∞
they're on their first date :3c
#swan queen#swanqueen#regina mills#emma swan#once upon a time#ouat#my art#sq art#sq redraw#i wanted to draw this scene mainly because regina just looked SO PLEASED WITH HERSELF i love her face#but i'm not super happy with the result :<#shoulda picked a different scene after all i felt like i couldn't really do much with this one#(or maybe i'm just not good enough at drawing her yet she's so difficult aaaa)#but i still wanted to finish this anyway!!#i hope you enjoy :>#thank u also for sending me asks with recommendations for scenes for me to redraw!!#i'll keep them in my inbox until i get around to them#thank you so much for the warm welcome to this space ; -; 💜#i'm so happy to see this ship still very much alive after all this time
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Baby that is not an enrichment activity
Baby... Baby no you... Child...
I know you like to play with crinkly things but...
Aaaand into the messenger bag she goes.
#snake#snakes#hognoses#hognose#pets#scoria#scoria rose#there's nothing dangerous in my messenger bag#and the candies are individually wrapped the bag is a stiff plastic she can't suffocate on at least not with me watching her#she really really really likes playing in bags and crinkly things#and has wanted to pay in my messenger bag every day#I had to put my drawing supplies in a zipper up bag in it to make it safe#as when she sees it she will wiggle and point at it and keep asking to go in it so it's just easier to make it safe and let her play in it#“Did you get any new things?”#she loves snooping in it#XD#that may be part of the reason she likes investigating bags#“Something new is in there!”#her sister hasn't learned this yet and is still trying to get over the world outside her enclosure being big and scary#Scoria just needs a moment and so long as I'm there she's ready to explore anywhere#we are the trope of the sweet little innocent girl and huge scary beast who will protect her at all costs#Scoria is the sweet little one
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did a little sketch yesterday that i really liked and tried to get it done today just so i got literally anything to post- but i fell into the trap of 'making sketches to elaborate and thus really stiff and non fun' (for me), ... soooooo .. im redoing the whole thing
but the idea was a mummy ganondorf for my (yes still existing) totk rewrite; i wanted to make him more scary looking and also emphasize just how horrid it must be to be kept in between life and death by having your heart grabbed by a cold and vengeful magical hand for thousands of years (in this case the ancient queen .. which i also tried to sketch despite not showing up aside from her dissolving hand)
the spell starting to fail and his body being more damaged in some parts (jaw being only the bones left for example) and his chest open from being slowly eaten up by the queens magic, the ribs contorting around it like its a gravitational pull- sounds cooler than it looks bc this sketch did not work out, so im saving the details for the .. hopefully, better version
#ganondoodles#art#tloz#ganondorf#posting it mainly ... to have something to post#and bc i think i remember someone telling me they like that i soemtimes post 'failed' sketches or paintings that i wont go back to#anyway ... this is one of them ...... felt rly pressured bc the weekends already over again and i dont want to work ......#was probably doomed from the start- detailed sketches rarely work out ofr me lol#anyway- also havent decided yet if i want him to have a heart still ... or if it too was dissolved by her magic#and you can still hear his heartbeat even though there is nothing in his chest#or maybe only like ... a spirit .. non physical heart ....#or its 'just' made of malice#.... or he doesnt have it at the very start and then at the mid fight he rebuild it somewhat#and for the end you find him in a tangled mess of pulsing roots like those that were in canon totk (but didnt mean shit i guess)#bc hes literally taking the life of the land to be as strong as he could possibly be#but like ... cool#i also have plans for a “demon” version and the good old boar#three phases and none is a cinematic thing#he will be a dark souls boss and you are way too low level ... i can do whatever i want in this rewrite you cant stop me!!#'kids have to play this gam-' no they dont this is in my head forever!!! no one is playing it but me!!
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taash said "they were doing it" and people ran with the interpretation of an npc that doesn't know solas or the history of the elvhenan even when bellara interjected and said, no, that's not right. that's not how it was for the elvhenan. they formed bonds before they had physical bodies. and people ran to doompost or create weird anti-solavellan shit even though mythal & solas refer to each other as old friends and when she releases him there is no tenderness or love in it. it is the act of unchaining a dog from his post, the stepping down of a general. but to each their own ig.
#let the record show i think love was there. do I personally perceive it as romantic / sexual? no.#mythal's perception of love & care is warped in and of itself#i think they loved each other. but she loved what she could take from him and what he could give in terms of service#not because she was romantically into him#also i wish we knew more about her & elgar'nan. her regret prison form says she holds no love for him anymore#and it makes me wonder when that love soured. was it when she was blighted? before that? was that love also born of duty and companionship?#this is the last post i'm gonna make ab this i think#bc i believe people are too caught up in the modern western ideas of love as thing we give solely to our romantic partners#and we literally have a character go ”our perception is warped bc of the age we live in” and some of you are still being purposefully obtuse#and i think trick saying it's up to interpretation is basically admitting EA had them dumb down the game anyway#if everything ab the rise and fall of the evanuris in game#was condensed to five 2min cutscenes it says enough that whatever the writers wanted#was swiftly cut down by corporate dept. basically saying it's in the fans' court now#also bc it's an easy cop out around new players & non solasmancers who are indifferent ab him / dislike him#as a way to appeal thru a more sympathetic lense of look!! he loved and was led astray#not to mention the clear justinia / leliana parallels#and leliana gets angry if you imply she was romantically involved / in love w justinia#and the romance descr when you remake your inq saying the dread wolf could not predict what it would mean to fall IN LOVE#implying he had never fallen in love before or at the very least experienced a romantic love#also him saying drinking from the well would make you a slave and he gets really upset#yet ive seen takes of ”hes doing this for her cus he dgaf ab lavellan” ?? he got mythal killed when he told her ab the blight#whatever feelings of admiration he had for her have rotted. he is literally burdened by his mistakes and his choice in joining her#i feel like if i were a spirit bound and twisted into a weapon i would need my creator to tell me i am Free. i would need that closure#like when cole says its not abuse to bind him if he asks and solas said thats not always true???#if you perceive her interaction w him in vg third act as#anything more than the way justinia released leliana in inq then im sorry maybe youre just obtuse#solavellan#mythal#dragon age meta
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the cato to annie pipeline is still real to me btw and something i think about because katniss is here thinking about both of them like "wow they are mentally ill" except she's legitimately scared of one and sees the other as docile/meek/an extension of her boyfriend/odd/non-threatening.
but what katniss doesn't seem to remember is annie came from a career district so not only could annie have easily been (and probably was) raised with a similar rhetoric/propaganda/mindset as cato but she also could have terrified the other kids in her arena the same way he did. they became trained killers but they're both exposed to the harsh realities of the arena, watch someone they care about die in a horrifically violent way, and lose themselves/their minds/what they were raised to believe in because of it
#and it's so interesting to think about what it would've been like if Cato won#because annie presumably resigned herself to death after her district partner got beheaded#yet even though cato became disillusioned with the Games after clove died you could tell in the book he was still determined to live#if only out of sheer survival instinct#it's like having an opposing mirror reflection in each other#no one wants to “deal with” annie so the Capitol writes her off as meek and unhinged and far gone#erratic and inarticulate and can't cope on her own (aka how fandom sees her)#but cato's a classic strong d2 victor and they need that image so instead of writing him off like with annie#the Capitol invents a narrative of “Oh he's like this bc he's a monstrous beast/lunatic”#meanwhile they both literally are just traumatised and need real help alsjfkrk#okay ignore me I'll go to bed#cato hadley#annie cresta#cato thg#thg cato#thg careers#the hunger games#anna speaks#thg
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this 2 month old ref drawing of my design for ozai and iroh’s mom (fire lady ilah) that i never posted now that i think abt it
#atla#ilah#fire lady ilah#avatar the last airbender#sulove’s works#if i see anyone refer to her as an oc .i will#go crazy. be deranged even. hell.#was only mentioned once (1 time) across multiple tv shows comics and books yet she still serves#i miss her#but anyways her jewelry made me want to tear my skin off with two toothpicks#this drawing is my magnum opus i fear but alas#its of a character no one gaf abt#ilah my love how i miss you so
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lottie + hugs
#i'm sure i missed some but these three are wild to me with how they show the passage of time and everything that happened in between#like that first one is her still doubting her visions but yet making sure to give van the lil amulet and telling her to be safe#and then the laura lee hug </3 a hopeful hug conveying faith that maybe she with her crazy idea to fly the plane could do it!#that this girl who listened to her showed her kindness and made her feel like she wasn't crazy for the first time in her life could do it!!#a chance to save them all!! and then the explosion happened. turning this hopeful hug into a goodbye hug </3#and then ofc the mari one. filled with guilt heartbreak and the realization of how dangerous and unpredictable the wilderness is#god you can so clearly see the guilt in her face; blaming herself for what happened to javi and what her friends had become#anyways i want to give her the biggest of hugs and tell her everything's gonna be okay :c#lottie matthews#charlotte matthews#courtney eaton#van palmer#laura lee#mari yellowjackets#akilah yellowjackets#yellowjackets#my post ♡
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Still trying to finish other things but in the meantime- updated design for my older May! She's an Ace Trainer
#you cant see it form the angle i put it at but she wears her gym badges pinned on her bag! shes proud of them lol#she DID technically win the champion title but the hoenn region saw what happened in kanto#w a child fleeing into the mountains and becoming a hermit. and were like ykno what lets Not do that#so it was kept a secret. shes free to revisit it now that shes older but she doesnt want any champion business anyhow#shes havin fun travelling#she still does contests! her n brendan both#brendan competes in cleverness n toughness contests may in cute and beauty contests... both of them fight in coolness contests#lisia sits back and watches as she clutches out the win yet again cus the stupid teenagers were too focused on winning from EACHOTHER#that they forgot about winning in GENERAL.#good job guys#not totally set on her team?#she has her blaziken. thats also her mega mon#tempted to give her mudkip its just baby forever#she has access to latias? but i dont think shes using it on her team just for flying#ill prolly let her keep her wailord she also uses in game its funny as hell#anyways its mostly all still up in the air#also her n brendan r fighting over custody of cosplay pikachu n theyre both losing#oras#pokemon trainer may#i forgot to actually tag this w the fandom LMAO OOPS#my own rambling makes me forget#hoenn
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Currently thinking about Artemis's will in the code at the bottom of TLG and how it really kinda shows how strained his relationship with his dad still is. Everyone else gets something they're interested in or that Arty thinks they'd like (sound system for Juliet, frozen chicken for Mulch, ethical investments for his mother, etc) and yet for his father he leaves only bearer bonds, despite Artemis I trying to move away from a money-focused enterprise and lifestyle as of TEC. Not to mention it's Butler who would know how to disengage all the booby traps protecting said bearer bonds, further highlighting the difference in trust & familiarity Artemis has with everyone but his father.
#artemis fowl#is this comprehensible? idk#i just think they're a fun relationship to explore#and like i get the reasons why the relationship between the two artemises isn't really elaborated on in canon#and why it exists as it does in the first place but still#your son - whom you had a very businesslike relationship with in his young childhood - talks about money when you are returned to him#after being missing for nearly two years. you tell him you failed and want to be a better father and money isn't all that is important.#a handful of years pass and your son goes missing (and is presumed dead just like you were) and yet returns just like you did#barely a year later though while grappling with his actual death and corpse you find out that no actually nothing had changed#and he still went to his grave with the only bridge between the two of you being money with no interest in other hobbies#what a thing for Tim to experience#from an overthinking and reading too much into things perspective that's heartbreaking#we never hear about Juliet's interest in sports cars or pop music yet that was included in artemis's will for her#compared to like beckett who we know likes bugs and slime and how artemis put that in his will for him#so when we get snippets of Tim's other interests (solar powered planes or his bio-hybrid prosthetic or running marathons or whatever)#and yet Arty didn't include anything about those interests in his will for his father is kinda like... huh.#you never really did change your perception of what would make your dad happy did you#and that would've destroyed Tim
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I see so so many videos and comments and discussion from people including artists expressing grievance and cringing in one way or another at modern and performance art, and all I can think is damn. That sort of art is really goddamn effective when it gets this much publicity and attention from people trying to cope because it gets under their skin so easily and not realizing the irony
At this point there's no modern or performance art I don't respect (other than ones that cause harm to animals 😐) just for being able to so effortlessly get reactions out of people. Like the "who's afraid of yellow, red and blue" paintings that to most people look like solid boring colors, 'how in the world is that art?' and all that, and yet, fittingly for its name, it gets vandalized (and is also impossible to restore because no one can replicate the intricate technique of the author). Some things never change. Godspeed modern and performance artists
#I used to not get much of modern or performance art and there's still a lot I dont but with each video I see dissing it I love it more#I never stop thinking about this one yt short of some guy going “this is art?? wouldnt you want some REAL art?”#and then they show off their dem0n slayer standees or something lmao. girl. honestly effective advertising though but makes me laugh#There is so much fucking awesome and interesting modern and performance art out there that really does commentate on the world effectively#when this is how people react by default then of COURSE it does. It's so easy to get a strong reaction#like the one performance art piece of the woman who just stood there and laid out a bunch of tools for people to use with no instruction#and gradually people got more brave and abused the hell out of her. only a few used the tools to do anything nice but still she stood there#the only performance art that everyone should disapprove of is the one that harms animals#two women I think made this piece that was a curtain made out of small live animals and crustaceans. that shit can go#and yet every video trying to disapprove of modern art showcases pieces that look interesting to me and not that#like its so easy to point at that and go “guys this is not art!” like yeah. it isnt. but only that#blabber
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colin 🤝 anthony: making an heir in s3
#the rest of my serious input is that i think this will be a flirty thread in a sex scene#esp bc in the book they have sex before they're married#but not so far before that they had to change the wedding date (although colin does but simply bc he just wants to be married)#i think it'll be the same in the show#except mirror stuff and also colin being like hey let's get in on this heir-making competition#and pen will be like colin! we're not even married yet#and he's like well do you want children? and she'll be like yes...#and he'll be like well our wedding is not so far out that starting now versus on our wedding night matters...#and pen will be like but my sisters are already pregnant#and colin will be like they could have girls! and i will love my prospective nieces very much but... we could still win this#and pen will laugh and roll her eyes and be like oh you bridgertons and your competitive spirit#and colin will be like we do like to win#(insert porn)#bridgerton#bridgerton spoilers#bridgerton s3 spec#polin#also. I DON'T SEEM SO DELUSIONAL NOW DO I!!!!!!! I FUCKING CALLED IT!!!!! I SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN!!!! AND IT'S HAPPENING!!!!
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erik will genuinely jump at any chance he can to steal charles' last name and be so catty about it i know this for a fact WHAT is his deal
[Magneto (2011)]
#cherik#snap chats#if i had a nickel every time erik went by 'mr xavier' at some point id have two and its making me wheeze#like at least the first time it was to be headmaster or whatever so it at least makes sense but vjaevlEVEKJV WHY#needed our mandatory charles mention for the magneto issue ig alright ill take it#legit tho why did he feel inclined to steal charles name vjelkvjeaklj like his names 'erik magnus' in this#while i was trying to answer that fashion ask i stumbled upon this thing and gave it a quick read#its only one issue and fairly short so why not#Context Squad I Guess this issue's just sharing the first time erik moves to new york#hence. stealing charles name i guess vjaLVKJAJKL like girl you didnt do anything evil yet ..... alright .... just to be sure ig...#do you ever think he freezes getting called mr xavier or is he so used to it at this point#maybe he twirling his hair and giggling to himself every time he hear it idk#oh but yeah he didnt do anything evil yet. he actually gets his suit in this issue from a woman named cassandra .....#not charles sister of course but still im laughing anyway because he wants her to join him in his Not-Brotherhood group#and shes like 'i met you like five days ago youre insane' and the sort#its an ok read. its unnerving seeing erik smile so much- especially so broadly but its not like. an offensive issue. its standard#it does the job on sharing the story. not that im a critic of any sort vjalkjkaLJ#at the very least it's implied erik has a notable accent in this so thats very cool 🥰#its always cute whenever erik admits hes a drama lover too like vjeLVJEalkvjelkj like at least hes self aware this theater kid 😩#ok bye ive been meaning to work on something but ive been running around all day valkvjkae
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Let's talk a little bit about Minthara and her oath real quick. Now, a question that I have seen pop-up in a few places between Reddit, Tiktok, and even Tumblr, is how the in the hells Minthara isn't already an oathbreaker. Well, I have 3 potential theories as to why that is.
Because it is merely a game mechanic and Larian did not want your only potential paladin to be an oathbreaker upon recruitment.
Her original oath to Lolth never broke because she never willingly joined the Absolute and her oath to the Absolute was made under false pretenses.
When she joins your group, she makes a new oath in your name instead.
Personally, I think that Minthara's oath is actually a mixture of 2 and 3. Yes, it is possible for a paladin to have multiple oaths at the same time. It just isn't a recommended practice in tabletop DnD because they can sometimes contradict each other, some oaths will straight up break other oaths, or the players just are unable to manage them properly. In this case, I do believe that Minthara has two oaths, one to Lolth and one to you.
I have not been able to find any reference to how paladin oaths work when the paladin is being coerced or mind controlled. But from what I have read in DnD lore, when a paladin makes an oath they have to do so willingly, deliberately, and consciously. None of those things occurred for Minthara when she took up her oath to the Absolute which is why it did not break her oath to Lolth (because it otherwise would have as she would have been sworn to destroy the Absolute for Lolth). And, technically speaking, the god that the oath is sworn to cannot go in and break the oath. Only the paladin can break their own oath. I only think gods can revoke divinity from their clerics. So, even if Lolth was truly pissed at Minthara, Lolth herself cannot just break Minthara's oath. That is something only Minthara can do. Minthara's original oath to Lolth still being intact is not necessarily indicative that she still has Lolth's favor, it just means she hasn't yet broken the terms of that oath. Even a crisis of faith (which Minthara is going through) won't break the paladin's oath either.
Another thing that is important to note is that as of 5e, a paladin actually does not need to make their oaths in the name of a god or before a god as their divinity is powered solely by the oath itself. Paladins are able to just summon divine smites and other holy based powers by sheer force of will and conviction (which is pretty damn sexy if you ask me). I mean, oathbreaker paladins still have access to divinity as well. Of course, paladins can still make an oath in the name of a god and most typically do, it's just that gods are not the source of power behind that oath. An oath is nothing but a vow, a promise that the paladin makes *to* a god, not the other way around. It does not even need that gods approval. So Lolth abandoning Minthara will also not break Minthara's oath either because Lolth is not the one who made an oath to Minthara.
So, it is very much possible that when Minthara joins your group, she does make a new oath in your name as oaths don't need gods. But, Minthara herself does not actually know how to live her life without having some kind of god figure so she just kinda puts you in that spot for the time being. I mean, she literally prayed to multiple gods and you were the one that answered. Which is also one of the many reasons why she does to along with what you want to do (even if she disagrees) because the oath she made to you would keep herself in check and keep her from acting against you. Minthara already is a very loyal person, but if you have any doubts on Minthara's loyalty, just keep in mind that she is quite literally oath bound to do whatever you tell her to do and will not betray you.
Minthara also never goes out of her way to become an oathbreaker, even after you free her from the Absolute. To be precise, you have to command her to break her oath. And of course, she will do so willingly knowing the consequences. Despite her oath being broken, she will still abide by the tenants of that oath. But she does enjoy the freedom that comes with being an oathbreaker and now nothing will hold her back from achieving her goals. However, she also says she does not know if her oath will still stand when all the nonsense with the Absolute is resolved and she even implies that if you do take the Absolute, she will no longer have an Oath of Vengeance, but an Oath of Conquest (which I think fits her better than vengeance if I'm being honest).
Minthara also makes quite a few suggestions to you that would actually break you oath if you are a paladin. Such as making an oath to Gortash, or making certain choices in regards to the vampire spawn. But, Minthara never does any of these things herself and I think that is purposeful. She knows these actions are oathbreaking type of actions. She attempts to orchestrate a fight between Dame Aylin and the wizard knowing fully well that it will break Aylin's oath. And she really wants you to go snitch on the wizard (although I just think it's because of her disdain for wizards rather than her being a little scoundrel to mess with Aylin's oath).
She is very very careful to keep herself in the position that she is because she doesn't want to be an oathbreaker initially. She is also very careful to tell you to do all these things. The language that she uses in regards to her oaths are also very important. Her original oath to Lolth would have her sworn to destroy the Absolute. But, we also know that Minthara very much has other ideas for the Absolute that do not involve destroying it (but oaths only break from oath breaking actions, not oath breaking thoughts). And her oath to you, she very specifically says that she is sworn to destroy all those who serve the Absolute, which is not exactly the same kind of oath she has with Lolth.
But, there is only one instance in this game in which Minthara will willingly become an oathbreaker and you do not have to command her to be one and that is if and only if you claim the brain. Her choosing not to destroy the brain when she had the opportunity to breaks her oath to Lolth. Now, the oath that she makes to you is where it becomes very very tricky. The oath she made to you, she specifically uses the language to "destroy all those who serve the Absolute". Her oath gets broken to you because she has become someone who serves the Absolute. But, there's more than that. If you become the Absolute, you also enthrall all your other companions which would make them servants of the Absolute and she also does not destroy them. Ironically, her choosing to serve you as the Absolute, breaks the oath she made to you because she has gone back on what she said she was going to do in your name. But most importantly, she chose not to get vengeance for herself.
Her oath to you was never to help you become the Absolute. Her oath was specifically to assist you with destroying the Absolute and all those who serve it. Her choosing not to destroy the Absolute and everyone who serves it, breaks both of her oaths. So, the Minthara that greets you at the gallows is now an oathbreaker. But, as I mentioned earlier, Minthara has already expressed the notion of taking up a completely different oath if you were to claim the Absolute. She helped you become the Absolute, knowing it was going to break her oath, and she had the intention of immediately replacing it with an Oath of Conquest, making her the first official paladin of the Absolute.
The fact that she wants you to become Absolute at all and that she prefers being an oathbreaker is why I read her as a canon oathbreaker. But she will never break her oath out of betrayal, but because of loyalty and devotion. She breaks her oath trying to make you as powerful as you can be. I have also discussed previously that her devotion is her fatal flaw and her choosing to remain devoted to you could potentially get her back in the same position you found her (that is if you betray her and choose to use the Absolute to reenthrall her). Her becoming solely devoted to you officially removes any and all ties she has to Lolth. But it causes Minthara to remain stagnant in which she doesn't learn anything, she doesn't change at all, and she doesn't grow.
She will live the rest of her life devoted to someone that isn't herself and act in the name of someone that isn't herself. She will live the rest of her life helping you achieve your goals and ambitions and what she wants is kinda secondary to all that because she has propped you up on a pedestal. She has always lived her life in service of a god and she does not know how not to. Many of the things that she has done in her life are not because she wanted to do them, but because she had the burden of expectations either from Lolth, from her family, or from Menzoberranzan culture and her oath kept her bound to these expectations. And she is falling back into that cycle with you because you failed to show her that there was another way and that she could be devoted to herself. You failed to show her that she does not need a god and she can indeed choose for herself.
#bg3#baldur's gate 3#minthara#minthara baenre#evil murder kitten#i still need to get to my essay discussing all of her endings#but her Absolute ending isn't necesarily bad - but a neutral one#her BG ending is the one in which she becomes devoted to herself and actually starts to work for her own ambitions and desires#because these are what she truly wants *for herself*#her oath to Lolth technically still stands in the background#and her oath to you is technically complete - and yet she still remains loyal and devoted to you because it is what she wants *for herself*#you were her very first real choice she made in which she was not pressured to from external sources#you were the first real choice she made when she was well and truly free from the gods#if you want a “good” ending for minthara - you kind of got to force her to choose things for herself#not for you#not for the Absolute#not for anyone or anything else#and most certainly not for any moral code#for herself
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