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celestialtarot11 · 23 hours
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Moon in the 12h
Hey friends! Welcome back to another post focusing on the moon in the 12h! 🤍 just to spread some awareness on this placement. There’s a lot of great posts shedding light on this placement already ✉️ hoping to expand more on this post in the future in combination with esoteric astrology 👀 feel free to like comment & reblog! divider creds: @fairytopea
Natives with moon in the 12h often are left feeling excluded. Its not that they hate what is around them necessarily, but rather its what they wish they had that isn't in front of them. It often stems from family issues.
They want that safe happy family everyone else seems to have. Some natives may even look at other family through rosed colored glasses, projecting their fantasies, missing the idea that other families can struggle too.
But to 12h natives, its not just a fantasy. Its their inner child longing to be safe, to be held.
Moon in the 12h natives often grow up to understand what happens around them externally is essentially a product of their behavioral patterns.
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Moon 12h aspects (square, opposition, conjunction)
Moon-saturn aspects often experience neglect, isolation during their hardest times by biological family and what they consider friends. The native clings to what sabotages them over and over, until they withdraw completely. Either that—or life has torn apart their relationships to show them they cant hold onto what is falling apart. It gives them no control to show them what they can control. And that is their ego, how they treat themselves. Their perspective, habits, etc.
Moon-pluto can result in the native feeling confused as to what their desires are. What their true nature is. They’re wrapped up in selling a persona someone else liked, in order to be validated. They get lost in fueling others so much they forget themselves. They can act as a, “pick me up,” easily. But when it comes to helping themselves the native may cope with unhealthy mechanisms. The native can experience views of self victimization, learned helplessness and obsessive tendencies towards others.
Moon-pluto aspects often experience turbulence regarding the mother. The mother could have been absent for some part of their life—or a female figure that was considered a guardian to the native, abandoned them. That female figure then became manipulative, trying to take advantage of the native’s emotions. This mother or guardian figure abandoned the native in times of need, and also forced the native to take responsibility that was never theirs to begin with.
Both saturn & pluto here force the native to grow up faster than necessary.
Regarding the father figure for moon-saturn aspects, or a male guardian to the native, the figure was cold. Demanding, harsh, and inflexible. The figure could have enforced strict rules to not allow the native to socialize—often pinning their fears onto the native. It’s very possible the father figure engaged in self sabotage in front of the native openly.
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Moon-neptune aspects get consumed by energy completely. They become one with the energy in the room. Therefore if surrounded by toxicity, and negative energies the native can fall sick because of it (mentally, and physically speaking.)
These natives are the type to daydream about having the perfect family to feel safe in their heads. They block everything out that hurts them, and then eventually takes their feelings out on themselves. These natives possibly struggled with being seen as “less than,” in the family. Misogynistic parents or friends, parents or friends who belittle them, victimize themselves and yet expect the native to grow up—all whilst keeping the native “stuck” in a naive mindset.
Harsh expectations in their environment to be perfect all the time. Mental health? Basically does not exist in this environment. Same can be said for moon-saturn and pluto aspects.
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Moon-mars aspect dealt with verbally aggressive environments, perhaps physical too. There is always someone trying to be “better,” than the native, or showcase their skills to seem higher than the native. Comparison, competition and jealousy often were in the household. Its very likely this came from a mother or female figure, and father figure/male figure as well.
The native dealt with roughhousing and learned to develop a sharp tongue to keep themselves safe. As a result they can be anxious, defensive as a way to protect their emotions. They’d rather keep their walls up as a defense than to let others in, because when the people closest to them saw them hurt, they were met with aggression.
Moon-mars native can have a hard time regulating their emotions, and have had the people around them be so focused on the “material realm,” like money, cars, etc, to the point of neglecting their emotional health.
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When moon in 12h heals…
They learn to accept their emotions for what is. Are they actually being needy, clingy, “emotional,” or human? Slowly, they unravel the narratives that were forced onto them since a young age and discover their emotions aren’t the enemy.
It’s the harmful narratives and perspective around emotions that is the enemy.
Moon in the 12h can also begin to gain perspective as to why everyone is the way they are—generally, no human is completely sane. We are all traumatized in one way or another. But they know now this isn’t an excuse for mistreatment.
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formulahs · 2 days
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If lando actually owned the fact that he’s got the fastest car rn and a very real chance to the wdc, or just showed one minuscule bit of confidence in his own skill, he’d probably have a lot more people supporting his title bid
The underdog gimmick got old very quick, you can’t dunk 22 seconds on your direct rival, pass him during a race where you started 10 places down and then say he’s got a faster car
yk when a guy has erectile dysfunction so he constantly plays up his dick game as a coping mechanism. mclaren is like the antithesis of that they have like a pulsing veiny big dick but they wanna convince everyone its not that big and hard anyway 😔 that guy over there with the half hard dick is so much better than me 😔 LIKE WHY BRO. WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS. and its some kind of company culture fr bc andrea stella and uncle sam’s demonic emissary zak brown love to downplay their potential as well
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stary-night · 2 days
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Siffrin and Loop make me so emotional because it's like:
(In Stars and Time Spoilers, through Act 6 and the Two Hats Ending, content warning for mention of canon unhealthy coping mechanisms and self-loathing)
What if you could go into the past during your period of worst mental health and help yourself? What if you could talk to them gently? Offer them companionship and touch, when they're too isolated to be with your loved ones? What if you could remind them to take care of themselves, to sleep enough, to keep going? What if you could help them find the key they lost for the fifth time that week, help them keep appointments, remind them of what they have to do?
What if you realize, part of the way through, that they are less alone than you were? That, you through being there, can act as a guide, as a support system. That... you're stuck in the past. You see your past self, you see how much their friends care about them. You're not sure if you'll ever see your friends, especially that version of them at that point in time, again. Your past self still doesn't know. They don't see it, just like you didn't see it. And you try to remind them, but you can't tell them, you can't make them see.
You watch yourself get desperate. You see all of your most unhealthy coping mechanisms reflected back at you. You know they make it worse, that they don't work long-term, that they cause you so much pain. You try to tell them. You do everything in your power to tell them, before it's too late, before they end up like you. Before they lose everything.
You can't stop them, because they're you and they have the same self-destructive habits you've always had under stress. You can't let them end up like you. Being where you are has to mean something. You tell your friends, who don't recognize you, who will never recognize you, that you need help. And maybe pray to an entity you know better than to believe in, that someone will help you this time. That you won't be alone in your mind, like you always have been, like you are now, trying to desperately to build a future that will never exist for you, because you already fucked it up.
And... it works. They get help. They know they are loved, that they can get better, that their family cares about them. You wonder if you could have had that all along. You wonder if you weren't brave enough, if you didn't try hard enough, if it was possible for you. Is it better if it was? Is it better to have failed at getting the good ending or for it never to have existed, like the light of distant stars, teasing you but always being out of your reach. You can't even measure up to yourself, how can you expect to be enough for anyone else.
And you want to get that happy ending so bad. You miss your friends. You miss being able to build a life for yourself, to have potential. And you worked so hard to help your past self, maybe this is your reward? Maybe that's how the Universe fulfilled your wish. But you look into your eyes, and you see your own fear. Your own grit, your own determination and something different. You see love. For the first time, you feel loved. And it burns. It burns hotter than the starlight that makes up your very being because you are loved and you haven't been in so long and you don't know what to do with it. What is there left to do with it?
But you don't want to fight yourself anymore. You don't want to see yourself suffer. So you leave. And you find something new. And you hope that one day, you can meet again when you're both happy. When you're both ready to be loved, when you can love yourself (and in some way, you think, maybe you already do.)
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yanderes-galore · 3 days
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Could you write the Yandere Alphabet for Louis (Beastars)?
Sure! Only seen the Anime to bear with me here ^^;
Yandere Alphabet - Louis
Pairing: Romantic
Possible Trigger Warnings: Gender-Neutral Darling, Obsession, Manipulation, Unhealthy coping mechanisms, Possessive behavior, Trauma, Clingy behavior, Blood, Murder, Violence, Overprotective behavior, Kidnapping, Forced relationship.
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Affection: How do they show their love and affection? How intense would it get?
Louis would feel very... complicated towards his obsession. He's arrogant and has a ton of self-loathing due to his past. As a result, he tends to hate relying on other animals.
So, when it comes to you, Louis isn't sure what to think.
Louis is shown to be kind and caring to those he likes, even if he struggles with relationships. With his obsession he'd definitely be as respectful as he can. He no doubt thinks he shouldn't pursue you...
Yet as all obsessions go... You stay in his mind and it makes him conflicted.
Louis would start by being distant, although his affection later on would be close. You'd probably be like an unhealthy coping mechanism for Louis, making him stick around you.
In terms of how intense? He may not seem like it... but I can see him as pretty intense, especially as the leader of the Shishigumi.
Blood: How messy are they willing to get when it comes to their darling?
Considering how he hates to show weakness, I can see Louis getting his hands dirty due to his obsession. He's used to guns and has killed before due to being in the Shishigumi. If someone pushed him into a vulnerable state, threatened you or tried to take you from him...
He may be unstable enough to pull the trigger for his own selfish benefit... under the guise of protecting you.
Afterwards... He can't help but notice it makes him feel stronger.
Cruelty: How would they treat their darling once abducted? Would they mock them?
I feel his behavior depends on if you're an herbivore or carnivore. If you're a carnivore, he would mock you at times yet still cares about you enough to meet your every need. If you're an herbivore, he forgoes mocking entirely.
I feel Louis would have a higher chance of kidnapping if he was part of the Shishigumi. He has lions under his control and can simply order that you're looked after. He'd make sure you get the food you want and have a comfortable place to stay.
He doesn't care how comfortable he is... He wants you well cared for, even if he tries to be stoic. Having you safe beside him soothes him.
Even if you panic, cry, scream... He couldn't let you go if he tried.
Darling: Aside from abduction, would they do anything against their darling’s will?
I feel Louis could go either way. I imagine he doesn't want to stress you or make you hate him on purpose. Yet at the same time... He's assertive and can't seem to be away from you for long.
He's only vulnerable with you, while he hates being vulnerable at all, he knows he loves you too much to push you away fully.
I imagine there's things he'll force, like who you can speak to or where you should stay. However, if he deems it safe, Louis would give you freedoms. Monitored, of course.
He doesn't like the idea of keeping you fully as a prisoner too much unless you try to leave him.
Too close to home.
Exposed: How much of their heart do they bare to their darling? How vulnerable are they when it comes to their darling?
At first, barely any at all. He hates being weak. Even more so when he resents his obsession for making him... obsessed and reliant.
However, eventually Louis will end up being... very vulnerable with you in private. Privacy with you allows Louis to cope. In fact, he realizes you're better than any drug he can take.
He likes to lay against you, bury himself in your scent, and just sit there. He wants you to hold him. He wants your attention on him, all to himself, for as long as possible.
While he's stoic and hostile in public. Even intimidating and protective around you. In private...
In private he'd kill just to have you look at him with affection... not fear, pity, or rage.
Fight: How would they feel if their darling fought back?
Irritated. You fighting him and his feelings makes his insecurities flare. You fighting him stresses him... and he'll do anything to make you stop.
Be that bribes, threats, restraints, or pressuring you... He wants you to listen to him. He knows he shouldn't force your affections, that it isn't healthy.
Yet Louis is impatient... and full of fear for what could happen when he loses you...
He understands why you're upset with him, after all he's done...
He just hopes you'll understand why he has to be so forceful at some point.
Game: Is this a game to them? How much would they enjoy watching their darling try to escape?
Not really and he'd hate you trying to escape.
Hell: What would be their darling’s worst experience with them?
When it comes to Louis and his character... I can think of a few things.
Such as, seeing him shoot someone in front of you for one reason or another. Another could be having the Shishigumi kidnapping you for him. That or even the isolation he forces you into just to soothe his own trauma... not daring to ask anyone else for help.
One way or another, you will see the top student deer covered in blood most likely not his own... all while he takes you away from the society you once thought you knew...
Just so he can drown out his insecurities in you...
Just so he can "love" you.
Ideals: What kind of future do they have in mind for/with their darling?
Hard to say for him considering he still has an arranged marriage technically. However, with how you make him feel by the peak of his obsession, Louis would rather have you as his spouse. You just seem to... take his stress away.
He's reliant on you, even if he never wanted to be.
You are his stress relief, his guilty pleasure, one way or another he'll find a way to make you his...
That's the only future he wants.
Jealousy: Do they get jealous? Do they lash out or find a way to cope?
Louis does get jealous, yes. He's jealous of the power carnivores have and jealous that Legoshi treats Haru so much better than he could. So... when he sees you off with someone else? Smiling, laughing, happy...
He may just lash out.
He wants that attention, that look you give...
He wants you... needs you...
Hopefully he'll have you soon.
Kisses: How do they act around or with their darling?
He's obsessive, clingy in private, possessive yet tries to pass it off as protective... Louis needs you like he needs air to breathe.
When he first met you, he never wanted to admit it, but his addiction to you and your soothing scent...
He's desperate and he hates it.
When he takes you into the Shishigumi, he's vulnerable in private... yet in front of his lions he tries to be as possessive as a carnivore.
Louis is an herbivore who will try to be as intimidating as a carnivore... but in private with you?
He's still the vulnerable deer he hates to be... holding you in his arms even if you hate to be there.
Love letters: How would they go about courting or approaching their darling?
I would think you both meet at Cherryton. Originally you don't associate much because he's the popular student at school. Yet eventually, fate brings you together, be that due to Tem's murder, drama club, or helping him in some other way.
If you're a carnivore, Louis originally looks at you with disdain. If you're an herbivore, he still tries to be distant, yet appreciates your presence. Louis doesn't like to rely on others, as said before.
However, when he tries to push you out of his mind, the thought of you doesn't leave.
This would make Louis hate his obsession for being so distracting. You make him feel weak and vulnerable... so he blames you. You don't deserve suffering for his feelings... yet it doesn't stop there.
After that he soon begins to realize he needs you. Even more so when he's with the Shishigumi for months. He hates to ask for help...
But you mean a lot to him.
Maybe you showed you cared for him but he always took it for granted or pushed you away? Maybe he realizes he shouldn't have been so harsh on you? Either way... Louis realizes he needs you.
You make his pain go away...
Which leads into him falling into his obsession, once again making you suffer due to his unchecked emotions.
Mask: Are their true colors drastically different from the way they act around everyone else?
In public, he tries to act the same with everyone. In private, he's vulnerable with you because he trusts you as his coping mechanism... his beloved whom he wants to rely on...
His.
Naughty: How would they punish their darling?
I imagine isolation or something psychological. Something that forces you to need him as much as he needs you. I can't see him physically harming his obsession normally.
There's no need for that in his eyes.
Oppression: How many rights would they take away from their darling?
He wants you to have your freedoms, but isn't afraid to... "limit your options" by keeping you isolated within the Shishigumi.
Patience: How patient are they with their darling?
Louis is mostly patient... but if you push his buttons in a certain way, like threaten him or try to leave...
That quickly drains his patience.
Quit: If their darling dies, leaves, or successfully escapes, would they ever be able to move on?
I... imagine not. He knows he should move on, he has to move on... but he was so reliant... so attached....
He probably will eventually... yet the thought of you weighs pretty heavily on him.
You never leave his mind... and he's never the same.
Regret: Would they ever feel guilty about abducting their darling? Would they ever let their darling go?
A little but he most likely won't let you go. He knows he should... but he can't.
Stigma: What brought about this side of them (childhood, curiosity, etc)?
Most likely trauma... unfortunately. He's lived without genuine love for most of his life. Now he's going to crave it once he feels it.
Tears: How do they feel about seeing their darling scream, cry, and/or isolate themselves?
A small part of him feels guilty he's using you... all while he attempts to console you. Another part of him is frustrated you keep doing this and won't accept him. He needs to either be patient or let you go...
Both options are hard...
But he knows deep down he isn't ever going to let you go on his own.
Unique: Would they do anything different from the classic yandere?
SKIPPED.
Vice: What weakness can their darling exploit in order to escape?
Good behavior I assume, reciprocating his affections and soothing him. Maybe trying to convince him to do the right thing and let you go if he truly loves you... That you'll come back to see him soon.... The issue is, if you try to trick him, he does have help and most likely will catch you.
However... play your cards right... and you may be able to taste a little bit of freedom for a while... until he finds you.
Wit’s end: Would they ever hurt their darling?
Not intentionally.
Xoanon: How much would they revere or worship their darling? To what length would they go to win their darling over?
Not a worship yandere... entirely. Yet he'd go to great lengths to keep you by his side. He needs you... and he's determined to have you need him too.
Yearn: How long do they pine after their darling before they snap?
I imagine it would be after a few months, maybe almost a year, before he finally gives up and realizes he needs you.
Zenith: Would they ever break their darling?
Unintentionally.
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sadstrever · 2 days
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i’m still 114lbs. i feel sick. yesterday was an awful day, i came home and had an out of body chew and spit session. i wish there was more research on this part of ed’s, or just more people who talked about it because i can’t be alone in this. i refuse to believe i’m the only sick person who does disgusting shit like this. anyways the reason why i call it an out of body experience is because it’s almost like binging-just without all the swallowing of food. i came home and immediately started doing it and filled up 1 and 1/2 2 liter bottles with food. i spent 5 hours doing this without even realizing and pretty much emptied out my whole families fridge. the guilt i felt afterwards was worse than a binge in my opinion. not only did i totally waste SO MUCH food, make a huge mess, ended up with disgusting bottles of mush in my room, i also have to face the consequences of my family coming home to an empty fridge. but when they got home they were happy that i “ate.” god i’m such a fucking piece of shit.
anyways after all that i took 4 laxatives to try and get the guilt of wasting the food out of me. i woke up in the morning today in terrible pain but still had to go to class, cuz what am i supposed to tell my parents? “yeah i haven’t eaten in almost a month and basically just threw all the food we have out in the trash and i also took 4 laxatives, can i please stay home tehe?” so i went to 1 class and ended up leaving because the pain was so excruciating. straight from class i went to the gym and somehow burnt 900 calories because i guess that’s what guilt does to me. i had to take the bus 2 hours home afterwards(bus delays and i went to a new further gym location this time), high out of my mind. i’m home now and my stomach hurts but the laxatives finally did their job. i don’t want to keep doing this. 4 years ago i said i’d recover and then i didn’t. since then i’ve forgotten about recovery (with the exception of a few random moments here and there that i block out immediately), i am so used to living in this fucking misery that i didn’t realize how abnormal my reality is. i don’t want to be a bad person anymore. but i can’t stop lol.
this is what bothers me about the girls who romanticize this disorder SO MUCH, when much of the time they haven’t realized how difficult it can become. i know i’ve done this, even now sometimes as a coping mechanism. but man, i’m sick of it.
i have a friend who writes poetry and she wrote a poem about eating disorders that make me so fucking angry. the thing is, i’ve known her for years and she’s always had the best relationship with food out of most of the people i know. she’s naturally pretty thin(not too thin but normal) and she’s very open about her struggles. i know every single one of her stories, i know she’s diagnosed with adhd. that’s HER disorder, that i don’t understand so i DONT write fucking POETRY about it. a few months ago she kind of forced me into opening up about my eating disorder. after i did, suddenly she started writing these stories about her eating disorder-very very very suspiciously similar to mine. i obviously didn’t tell her everything but i told her about how long this has been going on and just my emotions about it. seeing her start to adapt my fucking disorder into her poetry disgusted me. she glamorized the fuck out of it and made me feel so stupid for ever opening up about it. she’s naturally skinny so she got a bunch of support from our friend group from it and i’m just upset man. i’m sick of living in misery while other people can use the idea of living in pain for attention.
i promised my best friend that in 3 weeks i’ll go back to therapy and try my best to recover. it’s not true. man it’s never fucking true. it’s never fucking over. unlike ms.deep-poetry-girl i can’t just fucking write this and log off and then eat a good warm meal and talk to my parents without them mentioning my body. i can’t wake up tomorrow morning and hug them without worrying that they’re gonna feel my bones. i can’t wear shorts anymore without people noticing the bruises. i can’t go to school and keep my focus because i have nothing to feed my brain. i can’t let anyone get close because soon enough they’ll be just like YOU. OR they’ll hate me for not wanting to get better. i can’t love myself like you do because of the disgusting things i do each day. i can’t wake up thinner and suddenly stop hating myself. FUCK YOUUUUUUUU GOD IM SO SICK OF IT GOD. whatever im done. just sick and tired.
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1moreff-creator · 3 days
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Heeeeey, as the self-proclaimed creator of this theory, I wanted to see what do you think of the idea that Eden forgot she commited the murder. Eden has already said that she gets completely lost in her work for over 15 hours in the prologue. In my eyes, this is some sort of coping mechanism to escape reality that she started using after something very bad was happening to her at that time (backstory shit), and so she used something that she liked doing to escape the pain. But, someone (gurl she kissed) got her out of whatever she was going through, and showed her kindness at the time she needed most, and so, Eden started looking up to that person and that's when she decided to be kind to others no matter what happens. Because if she could have the same effect that that person had on her on someone else, then maybe her life was worth living. But, the big thing is that differentiates Eden from the person that saved her, is that Eden is weak. Mentally weak. She couldn't handle pain and suffering, that's the whole reason she tried escaping reality with her work in the first place. Just as Arei said:
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Eden started relying on her "savior" in order to get by. She is dependent.
So, what I'm trying to get at is that's exactly what was happening to Eden in the killing game. She couldn't handle the pain and suffering and she didn't have anyone to rely on like before, so her biggest flaw, the fact that she's weak was starting to become more and more prominent. And so, Eden was starting to search for ways to escape reality while still trying to be kind to everyone. Explaining why she said to Levi in CH2 EP1 (I didn't take a screenshot) that she was putting on her "Brave face". But, Eden was getting more and more desperate, and... What Arei said to her in CH2 EP5 was the thing that broke everything for Eden. I think that's exactly when she started "planning" the murder. But, she wasn't in her right state of mind, the same way that she got lost in her work back then. The same exact coping mechanism, a way to escape reality. I think that's why she didn't believe what Arei said to her when Arturo attacked her. This is a reeanactment of what happened to Eden in her backstory. Except, she didn't have her "light". She didn't have her "savior". And so, the murder happened. She went through with it without knowing what she was doing. But, when she killed Arei, she simply collapsed mentally when she returned to her room. She was truly awoken when MonoTV made the secret announcement. I think that Eden is under the impression that what she did was just a nightmare due to the fact that she wasn't in the right state of mind when she commited the murder. She forgot. And I think that pretty much explains all of Eden's behavior in the investigation and the trial.
Also, just adding here, I think that Eden's character arc is going to be getting the strength to accept that she commited the murder. She is not going to escape reality, not anymore, not ever again. Teruko is going to prove it to her that she did it, and she's going to accept that and take her death gracefully. She's going to be strong. And that's something that she never was. And this ties exactly to what the themes of this chapter are. This is going to put into question what the label "good person" truly is. If murder absolute evil, then does that mean that Eden is bad? No. Because Eden is going to show that everyone has things that they can never take back. People can't be perfect, not even people that are "good". Eden had her flaws, but, what matters is that Eden accepted them and was able to change. People are able to change. Arei was able to change. Eden was able to change. A "good person" doesn't exist because what truly matters is accepting your flaws and still choosing to go on to do good for yourself and others. Even if you did bad things in the past, they aren't going to be chained to you forever because everyone is able to change. What matters is what you currently do in the present, and... Someday, "Maybe all of us can be a little less shitty." <--- Arei Nageishi.
(This took me an hour to write send help /silly)
Hey there! Interesting theory! DRDT does have memory as somewhat of a recurring theme (Charles’ amnesia, Rose’s photographic memory, Teruko’s prosopagnosia and forgetting Mai’s name, Levi almost forgetting he killed his father, etc), so this isn’t a completely out-of-left-field idea. I’ll go point by point based on your ask, sorry if there’s a more detailed post I’m missing nuance on :v
Eden has already said that she gets completely lost in her work for over 15 hours in the prologue. In my eyes, this is some sort of coping mechanism to escape reality that she started using after something very bad was happening to her at that time (backstory shit), and so she used something that she liked doing to escape the pain.
It’s plausible, certainly. Though unless I’m forgetting something, I don’t think there’s any indication that Eden’s past holds some kind of tragedy that would cause this. So it’s possible it exists, but it’s also possible that there was no tragedy, and Eden is just Like That, able to focus on something for hours and hours without noticing.
(…Also is it pedantic if I point out it’s technically only 14 hours ‘cause the ”15 hours” was a joke? :p)
But, someone (gurl she kissed) got her out of whatever she was going through, and showed her kindness at the time she needed most, and so, Eden started looking up to that person and that's when she decided to be kind to others no matter what happens.
Uhm, again, possible, but I don’t think there’s evidence for it?
If our opinions differ, it might come down to preferences in theorizing. I generally like to abide by the principle of Russel’s Teapot; that for a claim to be believable, there needs to be proof for it, not just lack of proof against. As a result, I don’t particularly believe your interpretation of Eden’s backstory to be any more believable than any other, even if there’s nothing technically disproving it. You’re obviously allowed to believe it if you want, it’s just personal preference.
Alright so… a big part of this ask is about the themes of weakness and strength and what Eden!Culprit would mean for the messaging of the chapter. I have quite a few thoughts on this, but I feel they’re gonna make more sense after we get through the actual events of your theory. So I’ll skip those details and circle back later.
What Arei said to her in CH2 EP5 was the thing that broke everything for Eden. I think that's exactly when she started "planning" the murder. But, she wasn't in her right state of mind, the same way that she got lost in her work back then. The same exact coping mechanism, a way to escape reality.
So, I think it’s plausible Arei’s insults caused some kind of mental breakdown. But, uh, small nitpick. If she’s returning to old coping mechanisms, wouldn’t she… go make clocks again? I get that she doesn’t have the tools to do that, but even then, I feel like the escalation is quite abrupt. “Can’t make clocks here, so I might as well just set up an elaborate murder method to snap Arei’s neck!” (?)
This is a reeanactment of what happened to Eden in her backstory. Except, she didn't have her "light". She didn't have her "savior".
And so, the murder happened. She went through with it without knowing what she was doing. But, when she killed Arei, she simply collapsed mentally when she returned to her room. She was truly awoken when MonoTV made the secret announcement. I think that Eden is under the impression that what she did was just a nightmare due to the fact that she wasn't in the right state of mind when she commited the murder. She forgot. And I think that pretty much explains all of Eden's behavior in the investigation and the trial.
Alright, so this is the big thesis. Once more, technically speaking I can’t disprove it. And you’re right that there’s a few instances of dialogue where Eden!Culprit could make more sense if Eden lost her memories, such as Eden’s reaction to Arei not appearing for the motive announcement. So, plausible, but I’m not entirely convinced. The evidence doesn’t feel super compelling as far as I can tell, so while it’s fine if you believe it, I’m going to wait for further clarification before considering it likely.
So we’ve gone through the physical aspect of the theory, but there’s also an analysis to be had on the themes and the character arc that your ask posits. Now, you wrote a lot, which I appreciate as I always enjoy well-thought out DRDT takes like yours, but let me try to summarize for the sake of clarity. Sorry in advance if I misinterpret or misrepresent you.
(Paraphrased) Eden’s biggest character flaw is her mental weakness, because she escapes reality rather than confronting it. The climax of the trial will have her go on a character arc where she gains the strength to confront reality and admit she killed Arei. This will show that Ideal Good People don’t exist, because even Eden can make mistakes, and all that matters is trying to improve oneself and fix those mistakes.
Alright, there’s a lot there. Before I give my thoughts, keep in mind interpretations on characters and themes are deeply subjective, especially when there’s speculation involved like in this case, I respect your opinions, etc. With that disclaimer, here’s a summary of my own thoughts:
(Also all this assumes Eden!Culprit btw)
-Agree that strength and weakness are important themes to Arei and Eden’s characters, recap foils go brrr.
-Disagree that Eden doesn’t confront reality.
-Disagree that Eden is mentally weak, and especially that this is her biggest character flaw.
-Agree that this chapter is trying to send the message that Ideal Good People don’t exist, no one’s perfect.
-Agree that self-improvement is an important theme of this chapter.
-Disagree that this theory would send the message that Ideal Good People don’t exist.
Alright, so, to go more in depth. First, Eden does face reality, and I’d argue this is even one of the core aspects of her character.
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Eden: Life is really cruel, Teruko. I’m not so blindly optimistic as to ignore that.
Eden straight up tells Teruko this. She knows there’s bad things in the world, but she wants to remain kind despite it. Her putting on a “brave face” for the others isn’t her ignoring the horrors of the killing game, but rather, choosing to remain strong against this horrors for the sake of everyone else.
And she’s certainly not ignoring her situation. One of Eden’s defining characteristics is that she’s always looking for a way out of the killing game. She says it in CH1:
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Eden: Don’t forget that we all have the same goal: to leave this place. Give it your best and don’t be discouraged if we don’t find a way out on day one!
She says it in the start of CH2:
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Eden: So, uh… I’ve been spending a lot of time investigating around, looking for a potential exit—
She shares plans with both Veronika and Hu to end the killing game and deal with the CH2 motive respectively:
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Veronika: You know, Eden once thought of an interesting plan to end the killing game. Based on everything we know, it could theoretically work.
Hu: And after [Eden and I] were done, we talked for quite some time, brainstorming ways to deal with the motive.
This is confronting reality. This is seeing a bad situation, but choosing to remain optimistic. This is strength, a strength that Arei lacked.
You can’t talk about Eden’s strengths and weaknesses without bringing up Arei’s. Superficially, Arei seems stronger; physically more powerful, less bothered by insults and jabs, more assertive and louder. But Arei’s strength is a facade; she throws a fit when she’s not invited to the cake baking, and she breaks down in the playground because of Eden’s kindness.
This is because, when faced with unkindness, Arei chose to defend herself with unkindness in turn. And make no mistake; Arei survived her childhood, which is a lot, and it makes her strong in her own way. But by the time the killing game started, her cruelty was unwarranted, it was born from weakness.
Arei’s arc is to find Eden’s strength, the strength to better yourself and try to be “less shitty” every day. This is where we agree; good people are those who try their best, regardless of how many mistakes they make.
What is the end of the trial going to look like, then? I think it’s hard to tell at this point, but I do agree that it would have something to say about Eden not being an Ideally Good Person who Never Hurts Anyone. Even if she’s strong, she’s not infinitely strong like Arei used to think Eden was, and so something managed to break through her strength. I’m struggling with what though.
(This section used to be longer because I got speculative but frankly I don’t think the things that used to be here are solid enough to work)
This is why I kinda don’t like this from a narrative standpoint. If Eden dissociated (is that the right term?) through the murder, then she by the time the chapter ends, she’s still an Ideal Good Person. If she didn’t concoiously choose to kill Arei, and she didn’t consciously try to win the class trial, then she never hurt anyone on purpose and still sorta goes out as someone who can Do No Wrong.
What’s her mistake here? She didn’t handle her stress well enough? Seems a bit… underwhelming. Compare it to the mistakes of the other “Ideal Good People” (aka those who’ve been referred to as a “good person” this chapter, other than Teruko referring to herself as “not a good person”) and it’s, like… Xander and Nico tried to kill people, David is a massive liar who wanted everyone to die in the trial, Levi has killed in the past, meanwhile Eden needs a therapist. Like that goes for everyone in the cast what-
Then again, I can’t actually tell how much I’ll like a twist until I see it executed, and “I don’t personally like it” isn’t counter evidence, so that’s a bit of a moot point.
Anyways, overall, interesting possibility, and solid character analysis and predictions, but I currently don’t see enough reason to believe it, and kinda disagree with some of your interpretations on Eden’s character. Still, though, it was a good read, so thanks a lot for sharing!
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mrvelocipede · 4 months
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My old tea cozy was falling apart, so I have knitted a new one out of cotton yarn. The glass vase used to belong to one of my great-aunts. I wish my dropcloth was less hideously wrinkled, but I do not currently have the means to iron it.
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juniemunie · 4 months
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[Abandoned by the Lightners, his heart became cracked with hatred.]
Hitting a lil' too close to home?
#junie art post#ink sans#error sans#utmv#errorink#implied. but yea not the focus#this has been turning around in my mind for quite some time. im glad to finish it lmao idk if my ramblings make sense even.#so like listen. do you ever think about how similar the function of the utmv is to the dark worlds in deltarune.#in a meta narrative to fandom sense? idk the word#we are making exaggerated expanded worlds of the ordinary tools and entertainment of the real world and make it into something more#isnt that very very interesting?#and we explore every sort of possibility in that creation. both good and bad#and when all is said and done. every possibility found and the entertainment and secrets has all run out#we put it away. abandon and leave it behind#what is left? what happens to the world and characters we have created? can it sustain without us?#what of the ones left in the dark?#idk if yall saw me a few months ago but i reblogged comyet's old post of ink begging us not to leave him alone and to keep creating#yea that never left me#and seeing exactly THAT SCENARIO in deltarune made my brain iTCH#imagine an ink in King's position.... wait isnt that just underverse#mmmmmmm. darkner ink.....#also error is here too. not just for errorink or that i can't separate these two to save my life#but error is also one of the few people to be able to GET IT?? he can hear the creators too. ink cant#but hes pretty much programmed himself to avoid having a mental break down to this via reboot memory loss.#and ink has his own internal coping mechanism (hooray for short term memory loss)#these two idiots will do anything but confront truths lmfao#ahhh my favorite idiots. never change#mmmmm#deltarune
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kitamars · 1 year
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oh no! more ginhiji
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thatfaerieprincess · 2 months
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WATCHED C3e99 DOWNFALL PART 1 AND UHHH I HAVENT DRAWN FAN ART IN YEARS BUT THE MUSE REALLY SPOKE TO ME THIS TIME
Step 2 figure out how the Emissary actually looks
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heph · 2 months
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It's so interesting how submissive House is to Wilson. In basically every scene where Wilson gives his 2 cents about a case, House without fail (for the most part) follows his opinion. Wilson gives him unsolicited advice and half the time he listens without saying anything, and the other half he argues but ends up listening to him anyway. House starts psychoanalysing Wilson and Wilson does it right back to him and House shuts the fuck up or gives a one line quip back at him (to have the last line) but knows deep down Wilson is right.
For a man of House's stature and how he interacts with Literally Everyone Else, the writers really hammer it into your soul that House only really listens to Wilson and no one else
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princeparadiso · 11 months
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okay but did anyone here mention the fact that we discovered that q!Baghera built a tiny replica of her childhood room to house her mini-mes in under her castle and that she named said mini-me with the same ID pattern as her own
because that's a bit fucked up actually
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saturnniidae · 1 month
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I think Astrid Hofferson has a bad case of the 'my childhood was wasted, I grew up too fast for something ultimately proven pointless.' Syndrome and that she deserves to get to do silly things she missed out on and take up new hobbies, even if she's not particularly good at them–it's purely for the experience yknow, and learn to finally breathe no longer needing to be on constant high alert and get to be truly happy
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juaneloriginal · 6 months
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This is the story of a woman named Mariella
TW: BLOOD AND MISSING ARMS
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aaaand a couple doodls
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ignorance is bliss
@blackkatdraws
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myfairkatiecat · 3 days
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“Sophie became exactly like Keefe in Stellarlune”
Loud incorrect buzzer
Sophie, beginning in Neverseen and slowly in increasing amounts begins to pick up Keefe’s way of speaking/his form of snarkiness/his style of humor because she spends a TON of time around him and our speech patterns are influenced by those around us. Also, she got older and more confident, so a lot of her shyness melted away. But she is the girl she’s always been—just a lot more confident and making a lot more of the same style of jokes as one of her closest relationships. That is way more realistic than y’all give it credit for
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realbeefman · 1 year
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stacy is sooo interesting because she's in love with house but knows that they will never ever be able to have a healthy, stable, sane relationship because they're too similar so. she finds house-lite instead and marries him and. essentially moves on with her life! and is successful in this because she's a moderately well-adjusted person!
wilson, in contrast, never manages to escape the inevitable, in spite of his best efforts to find a house-lite of his very own, because he's an absolute fucking freak and ends up glued to house to the bitter. bitter end
#yeah im too sleepy to revise this. UNFILTERED posting wooahh#some may b shocked but i do actually read thru most of my posts several times to make sure i didnt accidentally write mein kampfe 2#recently ive come to the realization that i am in fact not an incredibly chill person#and that the constant paranoia and fear in which i live my life is actually PROBABLY a symptom of severe anxiety#like damn. ive always known that im pretty prone to depression but ive preetty much always been aware of that#my mom is a chronic depressive so i know the symptoms i know the signs i have a pretty good arsenal of healthy coping mechanisms#UNFORTUNATELY mommy's mental health problems did not help her not abuse me as a child#so i ended up being a terribly anxious kid who was constantly being screamed at and told i was overreacting (because i was. because i had#a severe anxiety problem that was making me react irrationally.) to everything all the time#which is you know. it is VERY difficult to deal with a mental health problem when you arent aware you have a problem!#its incredible how much. better. my life has gotten since i figured this out and started actively trying to work out what triggers it#and being able to like. realize 'oookay. there is an Issue here and it needs to be overcome'#instead of just beating on myself constantly for not being able to do things without feeling sick or getting breathing problems!#anyways. trauma dumping in tags is over now!#house md#hilson#greg house#james wilson#stacy warner
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