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loppiopio · 1 year ago
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the chances of the people seeing this aren't super likely so this is highly inefficient but i'm too afraid to approach people personally…. yet i've been burning with the need to express my gratitude for the tags i've received individually somehow and figured, i could do it the way i do best. in the tags 😅
(sorted by most recent) (i capped the limit hard here) (some ✂️✂️ had to be done 😔) (i still like this format a lot though) (might do this again in the future idk would people like that??) (i hope it's not mortifying for anyone……..)
it's sorta the way i like it, indirect and unimposing, even if it's kinda. wieldy. but it's just on my blog so anything goes right? although in saying that, i am open to being imposed on. like if someone wants to talk about aci or something, like other fic?? i'm a big fic fiend. or anything else lol not sure what else you'd wanna chat about since so much of the stuff i've put out is just. about fic. but hey, if you're a person i don't mind being approached :>
(lol the way i've made this like a *throws out a bunch of paper slips* find your's 🎉) (might be obnoxious hm) (sorry...) (find your's if you want though 🫡)
#i said a thing#@glaciesdraco i'm so glad someone is appreciating the brilliance of my shitpost yes i went so hard on that and it's you too??#i enjoy your ramblings and hcs a lot (if that one gift art based on your hcs wasn't telling) i hope my indirect appreciation can reach you#two years ago for a gift exchange i had [get them drunk] as one of the things on my wishlist and linked your post with it because they're <#@miyukiwynter your tag was fun and cute it made me smile :) oh no the boy!#@spooky-sordid your enthusiasm for the 🥥 post despite zero context is so fun to me i'm happy my niche things connect with you like that :]#@scrambledshizaya oops! all aci posts with even more on the way sorry it's all i got#the energy of your tags is very fun though i hope to bring a little pain with the 📸⚠️ comp and loverboy cringe is so izaya indeed#@gay-deer your all caps enthusiasm is so so sweet to me thank you for loving them!! also you bring fun things to my dash so thanks for that#@vi-138 you haven't said anything so i hope you don't mind.... i've seen you in my notifs a few times and i'm appreciating it very much :>#@fweamy i like your energy and omg you like the way i draw them?? no wayyy i'm so flattered you like my portrayal of them? that's such high#this makes me feel better about my style like actually since i spend a looooot a lotta time on every little thing so it can appeal to me#and i'm not confident at all but i do try very hard to achieve aspects of how i like to see them so i'm glad it seems to resonate with you#i draw all too slowly but you shall be in my thoughts as i fight to deliver more of these scrunkly scrimbos 🫡#@zamtik you think it's awesome? :0 wow thanks! also thanks for appreciating the 🎀🔪 i made that not a lot of people acknowledge heh#@gay4and2high i like that you acknowledged the content of the fic i love the content of this fic i need to acknowledge it so bad 🗣️#@stupidusernamepolicy idk if you meant for your words to read like this but i'm still so so flattered by the tags you left on that post 🥺🥺#idk what you actually think of the fic so i can literally only imagine your enthusiasm for it but i think i feel some of it in those tags 🧠#and you seem to really like the post in particular so?? thank you c:#@whamss no way are you sure you love my art?? thank you i'm glad you find them cute and see so much personality in them too??#you pointed out shizuo in particular !! yesss i slaved away soooo tirelessly on him (except i was very tired) i'm glad he is appreciated#his face... it needed to convey so much...... sad puppy dog look#the humouring of izaya's antics that soften him in light bemusement “mouth slightly open probably as close to a smile as it would ever get”#and thank you for enjoying loverboy cringe with me he is exactly that#@soultiio thank youuu i appreciate this sorta connection we have going on where we communicate through tags a little <3#i like the comments your affection for the boys is very sweet thank you#@pennyloni thanks for the obligatory shizaya reblog#@pineapplething hihi!!!#@demon-of-ikebukuro i take joy in all the appreciation for the comm :> also you have a fic i'd like to try someday bc it looks interesting!#@churroful you haven't said much since but thanks for finding the 🎀🔪 sexy >:D i appreciate you in my notifs and i hope you enjoyed aci!!
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needle-noggins · 6 months ago
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A Guide to eezybree's Trigun Fanfiction
Hi all! For @trigunfanfic appreciation week, I would like to do a little self-promo. I've only been writing fanfic for about a year (if you don't count my POTC fic from middle school) but it has changed my life and I'm really proud of what I've done so far. If you'd like to read some of my stuff, here's a quick guide!
Bluebells | E | Vashmeryl | 43k, in progress | post-canon Trimax, canon-compliant | Hurt/Comfort, Emotionally-driven, Character-driven. My long fic about Vash and Meryl figuring out life after Trimax. It's mostly Meryl POV, with an emphasis on her PTSD and trauma, but Vash is even more messed up. He's lost and grieving both Wolfwood and his brother, and Meryl's hangups about his nature as a plant certainly don't help their feelings of loneliness even as they're living together. It doesn't help that the ghost of Wolfwood won't leave the damn room. They work it out together while still acknowledging the things that haunt them - Vash's grief and Meryl's fear - and put on a brave face for the TV special on his life. This fic has converted a few people to see Vashmeryl, has made people laugh and cry, and has inspired a little bit of art. This fic is my baby, and I'm so so damn proud of it. ALSO: The smut is skippable!
Funeral Rites | T | Vashwood | 3k | Trimax canon-compliant Vol. 10 Burial fic. My first fic and still beloved. Vash buries Wolfwood and gets weird about it, would you expect any less? This baby is so chock-full of love and grief.
Freaks of Nurture | M | Gen/Vashwood | 2.8k | any canon. Vash gets vivisected and he hallucinates that the surgeon is Knives. Wolfwood gets triggered to hell trying to save him. This is my best and weirdest prose, and I had the most fun writing this. Dead doves abound here.
Silent Night | T | Gen | 4k | Pre-canon sci-fi epistolary-style story of Rem on the SEEDS expedition, leading up to the birth of the twins. My heaviest sci-fi with Rem's grief over her late partner Alex and regret over Tesla running throughout. I adore this fic. It was also inspired by Lenipez's Becoming Eden series, and in turn inspired another Rem-centric fic by mydetheturk!
Fresh Cut | E | Millionsummers | 5.7k | DEADEST DOVE. DESSICATED. My uhhh... body horror smut and essay on what compels me about the messed-up relationship between Legato and Knives. I wrote most of this on a plane (in public). This one is very kinky and weird and somehow hot, if you're into getting visions of your lover cannibalizing you when he comes.
Cigarettes & Saints | E | Mashwood | 3.8K | post-canon Trimax, set somewhere within/after Bluebells. Vash and Meryl visit a grave outside Hopeland and they... get weird with it. One of the tags is Outdoor Sex, and it does a lot of the heavy lifting. Wolfwood's ghost pays them a visit in Vash's butt. This sounds incredibly silly but it's very sweet and sad and there isn't a single dry eye by the end of the fic.
Growing Black Irises | T | Stryfewood | 1k | set somewhere in Bluebells again. Here's how post-canon trimax stryfewood can still win, but oh no it's painful and somehow sweet. So much yearning and regret over things never said or done.
Lightning Rod | M | Elendira POV | 1K | Trigun Stampede | Body Horror week fic; there's a dead dove in here. Inspired by Beelzebby666's Elendira/Tesla, I wanted to explore Elendira's thoughts and feelings about growing up and being experimented on, lauded as Knives' new Tesla. Compels me.
Learn to count on you (as my own fingers) | G | Vashmeryl | 800 words | Any canon. Meryl helps Vash clean his prosthetic, and it's very sweet.
Meet in the Middle (Like Pistols at Dawn) | G | Vashmeryl | 672 words | Domestic Fluff and Sillies. For the indirect kiss prompt for Vashmeryl week. I just really love writing them be goofy and sweet.
Ship to Wreck | T | Stryfewood | 1.6k | Pirate AU! Two small scenes of my pirate AU that is actually a bit more elaborate than the fic lets on. It's a fun time.
Raising Hell | T | Trigun OCs | 1.7k | If you ever had more questions about my silly trigun OC Fanny Paine, well, here's half her backstory. This was fun to write and got me out of a funk! I may write more again. I love Fanny.
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cringefail-hermitry · 11 months ago
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I've been wanting to make a post like this for a while now, and well, having just finished a crucial stage of my life, I think this is a good a time as any.
It's gonna be a long one
Like, *LONG* long
Like, I Am Going To Mention Every Single One Of My Mutuals By Name long (if you'd rather not be tagged in the future, do warn me)
First of all, the primary purpose of this post is as a letter of thanks for the wonderful months you Tumblr peeps have provided me this year. I am not hesitant to say joining the hellsite was the single best decision I have made in the last 12 months, heck, I think about 2/3rds of the friends I mantain regular contact with nowadays came from here. But this wouldn't be a long post if it was just a brief "thanks y'all for improving my life". I'm gonna get into detail. And I'm gonna be sappy about it. You can't stop me. You're not my mother. And not even my mother could stop me from posting this.
I would've said "I thought long and hard about who I'd start with", if there was any question about it. There isn't. @tearychildren, where do I even fucking begin. I can't really say anything too specific because if I begin I don't think I'll stop and half this post is gonna be about you, and this is already a very long post, so I'm just going to leave it at this, you already know well enough just how much you matter to me.
Going onwards, another of the early spots goes to who I believe was my first mutual, definitely one of the first people I followed, @chlorohexidine, a long-time mutual and recent good friend, our daily chats, however short, never cease to be highlights of my days, your art is really cute (love me some rounded shapes) and brainstorming ideas for your TTRPG campaigns is always fun (I really like your worldbuilding, too). It's only fair to mention your (and my, just needed to make this segue well) good friend @xsenpi, infodumping touhou to you both genuinely got me through that month, and Undertale 2: Revenge of The Robots with Rei and TC has been a blast so far.
@soundsofastar is another that warrants special mention for actually changing my brain chemistry and making me appreciate the local wildlife even more than usual (if we ever meet in person, WE ARE GOING ON A NICE LONG WALK TO LOOK AT BIRDS TOGETHER, WHEREVER IT IS WE ARE WHEN THAT HAPPENS, MARK MY WORDS). Your art also makes me feel things. Not many things make me feel stuff a lot. That is impressive. I should be in a good spot to finish reading the Illuminae Files within the next few days, so please do pester me about it, otherwise the piece of media that the next person I'll talk about recommended to me will consume all the time I'd read it in.
So, the next person I'll talk about, @northwest-cryptid, thanks for letting me use our DMs as my Mabinotepad, and for getting me into Mabinogi in the first place, you've been both the direct and the indirect cause of many good times, and I gotta be honest I kinda admire you a lil' bit (and if you know anything about how I talk, I am horrible at expressing vulnerability, admiration and these sorts of emotions without a bunch of euphemisms unless I'm doing this sort of tangent where I attempt to talk about myself in a more depersonalized way, so what that sentence there essentially means is "I admire you a lot and you are an inspiration").
Another pivotal figure in how this year shaped out is @ratlesshonret, creator of The Bird Nest, site of many good times, who has exposed me and many others to some wonderful media (I AM GOING TO FINISH POCKET MIRROR SOMETIME, MARK MY WORDS), reading through all the chats in the server is usually a blast, too. Your contributions to my life cannot be understated. Seriously, thanks.
The next great friend I'll mention is @transgender-lea-crosscode, we've started talking more only recently, but have already bonded a fair bit, I reckon, damn you're good at Blazblue. You've dared to make me good at the game and for that, I commend you. You should say words about Zeroranger in my general direction sometime, I'd be happy to hear/read them.
Now for those mutuals that I don't really speak to, but are responsible for like, 75% of my total notes, like, everyone is more than welcome to jump into my DMs and start talking about anything whenever, but y'all specifically are folk I'd have started talking with regularly ages ago if I knew what to talk about. @hoshinoreika2004, @ward-leon, @edenplumreal, @tabnk2, @tapok-eve , @boofbv and @sorcerousbrick, thanks for all the lil' dopamine hits.
Shoutouts to @wretchedbirdthing for being normal about that bird, you're a blast to see on my dash and I wish you luck snapping those collarbones in twain to hear those gay little squawks.
@freiflies and @ottisbuns, alongside Tapok, Vic and Honret, y'all bring life into The Bird Nest, and although I haven't really shown up much there recently, I still read most of everything, the words are cool, keep up the good work!
@genericgirl420 and @mikusays-transrights, you two are the mutuals that suffer the least with The Distances, so let's do this in a more, well, local fashion. É genuinamente bom ver que a comunidade brasileira do tumblr está ativa e saudável, aumenta minhas esperanças de encontrar outras criaturinhas desse site maligno pelas ruas, sua presença, por si só, já melhora meus ânimos, por isso, agradeço profundamente.
Ok back to speaking in simplified Old German. This next section goes out to @lemocoffe and @teacup-of-doom, both of whom I haven't really interacted much, but what little there was was quite great, this is, in fact, an invite to do more of the interact-y thing. Y'all are cool.
Another shoutout to a frequent view on my dash, @lobotomise-me-please, whose "Boobs Girl Music" post still has 10k notes to me, I'll get back to mass reblogging it someday (if y'all wanna help, check out @boobsgirlmusic for the post, that's my Boobs Girl Music sideblog where I reblog Boobs Girl Music)
@aurora-veil, @limbuscompanyyuri and @thevanishedpeople-intothenight are up next, some of my first mutuals, y'all post good. And have been doing so consistently. For the past like, 9 months or so. That's impressive.
@meltingadoration, @holyitsquiverrflynn and @jestressofnihil, my more recent moots, there hasn't been much time to do the friendship-building and knowing each other thing, but all that means is that there's still many opportunities for that, which is cool.
Last but not least, the mutuals who I haven't quite gotten to know as well, but I'm inviting to chat anytime, @readysetgargoyle, @atlasmothss, @meeresengel, @flesh-borne, @b-kut, @aureatecenotaph, @risingdragonblade, @agender-witchery (your posts helped me immensely in figuring out gender, thanks for that) and @lich-of-lcorp. Y'all are cool, we should talk more.
And one last section for all those who I've been in touch with but aren't mutuals with, for any and all reasons (I do tend to reblog very, well, erratically), y'all deserve to be on this list, but I just didn't wanna bother you too much (I do have words of thanks to say though, if you want them, just ask).
This post is still too short to express how thankful I am for y'all existing. I don't think text could ever do it justice.
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byizoyas · 1 year ago
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2023/byizoyas. — pls do not plagiarize or repost and claim as yours ! thank you very much :)
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❛ ACE OF HEARTS ❜ ; a multi love interests written genshin series.
status: still in progress but it shall be starting soon.
genre. modern/mafia?? au ig. assassin!reader (gender neutral)
synopsis. ‘a genius’, ‘a ruthless murderer’, ‘teyvat’s righter of wrongs’… such are the way they call you through the whole country. indeed the pseudonym ‘crimson’ you use to hide your true name isn’t unknown anymore. some people praise you, some others only wait for your downfall. and in the middle of these crowds of hypocritical following idiots, you find yourself struggling to lead your life the way that you want. you owe a certain someone called morax a massive amount of money and since you have no choice but to work for him as his personal hitman you almost lost your ability to feel anything along the way; as if you lived only to serve that man and fulfill his cruel orders. yet, you can be thankful to him for he is, indirectly, the reason you met people that are going to change your life. will they change it for the best or for the worst ? this, you can only know after you make decisions. the way is going to be a long and difficult one. hopefully, someone will be there to catch you by the end of your journey.
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✦: meets with reader through the fic. ✧: already knows reader.
✕ male leads. (5) alhaitham, ayato, childe, diluc, kaveh.
✦ ; alhaitham as the main target and y/n ‘enemy’
✧ ; ayato as y/n former partner in crime and actual friend with benefits
✦ ; childe as y/n current partner in crime, new in this job
✧ ; diluc as the cop in charge of some cases involving y/n, also happens to be y/n childhood friend
✦ ; kaveh as alhaitham’s friend and y/n indirect target to get to alhaitham
✕ main characters /outside ml and reader/ zhongli, pantalone, lumine, yae miko, kaeya, rosaria, dainsleif (more to be added as the series goes by probably)
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✕ notes. GN/AFAB!READER cursing. heavy dose of angst. smut and suggestive scenes. mature themes that might not suit everyone’s taste (anything triggering will be tagged on top of a chapter!!) random updates cuz the whole thing isn’t written, i’m improvising ehe. dainslumi mentions. no heavy romantic feelings (love basically) towards the 5 men shall be described from reader pov since i want y’all to help me choose who y/n will end up with.
✕ taglist is always open, just send an ask or comment this post to be added.
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CHAPTERS.
𝐈. the tower
more to come
reblogs, comments and likes are genuinely appreciated, thanks for your time & support!
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flyingfabio · 11 days ago
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my god the petty in me is so strong because i can't resist actually being here when [redacted] happens because so many people are already making excuses for [redacted] lmao. so poetic to me!
also. some things:
i wil start to unfollow or block people who can't properly tag their rpf stuff. too bad for the other content i could be interested in, but it's time to think about myself and if you take it personal, please don't hesitate to unfollow back or block (i've already gotten hate and indirects and many people have blocked me already so really go ahead i don't care anymore lol)
motogp racing still subpar and i'm being nice (no, 4 laps of jorge martin being crazy and doing things he shouldn't be doing today won't change that. but thank you jorge for being crazy we appreciate the effort in those dire times) and i'm still dreading next year because i know how it will look like on screen and on here (everyone will only talk about marc and pecco and valentino will be mentionned more than the other 18 other current riders. really can't wait!) so yeah. this blog still on life support undefinitely
which brings me to something else. maybe i'm being crazy but i feel like there is less motogp edits these days. which brings two sides in me. motivate me to keep doing gifs especially of fabio because now there is like maybe two people who give a fuck enough to post about him or i'm just like... well what's the point
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berrypass-de-murdler · 1 month ago
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About the Murdle fandom. (long post)
I have made vent posts before, but this is less of a vent post and more of explaining the specifics of the situation, which I have not yet shared my perspective on publicly. I know it's a long post but please, please for my sake read it.
I joined Tumblr because I wanted to be a part of the Murdle fandom.
It started with Raven. She was the only person on DeviantArt (where I started) other than me who posted Murdle art, so I summoned the courage to talk to her. I'm glad I did. She ended up one of my best friends, not just in the fandom, but period.
After a while, I more or less left DeviantArt and moved entirely to Tumblr to focus on the Murdle cartoon. For a while, she was the only reader, until I was joined by RoyalleBlue, my best friend on Tumblr.
And I would also like to shoutout kirvee, electricskelecomics, foxglove.woods, and murdleandmarot for providing support
Raven invited me to the Detective Fanclub Discord server. I was extremely nervous coming in but was welcomed by electricskelecomics and a few others. I wasn't used to a public server and had intense anxiety, but was slowly warming up to talking.
Eventually I was comfortable enough to talk regularly about Murdle. Raven posted AU information about Logico, and I jokingly called her out for 'hurting my babi boi'. Another user suddenly publicly called me out for 'infantilizing' characters, completely humiliating me. They gave an indirect apology (through Raven) apologizing because they 'knew I was fragile'. I left the server, to then which a mod followed me to DMs and criticized me for leaving for a long while until I stopped responding and they finally let it go.
To this day I am very uncomfortable when the server is brought up and often fall into another depression cycle.
I generally felt better here on Tumblr. Even though I didn't get much attention, I still had Blue and Raven.
I however seemed to unknowingly be making an enemy. A prominent user in the Tumblr Murdle fandom who I had never spoken to directly but had still liked the posts of and who indirectly said I was 'very cool' at one point began completely avoiding me, although I'm not sure exactly when it started. Initially I figured they just didn't read the series, which is fine, but they also ignored my art while usually liking and reblogging every other Murdle art post. This kept increasing to the point where they no longer interacted with Blue simply for being friends with me, and refused to acknowledge art that I was even tagged in.
At this point I could tell that it was personal, and yet I still don't have the faintest idea of what caused the grudge, as again, I never spoke to this person. They blocked me at one point before unblocking me the next day (and still avoiding me). Eventually I couldn't take it anymore, I sent them one non-aggressive message explaining why I felt like I had to block them and did. It hurt me, because I knew this was a very nice person otherwise and someone I wanted to be friends with initially.
It doesn't matter if it's not direct, targeted avoidance hurts. Every time someone other than me, Blue, or Raven made a Murdle post now, I'd get a harsh reminder of the fact that I was being ignored on purpose.
The depression I've gotten from all this is more severe than one might expect. I just wanted to join a community with the people who also love my new favorite thing. Murdle was the only thing making me happy through a dark time, and now it just makes me think of the people who berated me on Discord and avoided me on Tumblr.
I hate thinking of the book like this. I find it, needless to say, amazing in every way which is why I dedicate so much time and effort to it. Designing characters isn't easy. Writing isn't easy. I only wanted some appreciation for my efforts. I don't mind if people aren't interested in the cartoon. But the personal offenses are getting to be too much.
Thank you for reading this. I want to be free to continue my work that I love making so much.
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indieyuugure · 1 year ago
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Hi! Let me start off by saying that I absolutely adore your ROTP series. This is also one of the very few Rottmnt/2012 crossovers in existance that does justice to both verses and doesn't put a biases on any. I love this comic.
Now that aside, I need to get something off my chest. I wouldn't have gone on Anon but experience has taught me that opposing opinions will make the followers of a blog insult and harass you so I tend to err on the side of caution. You see, I Love Love Love TMNT. And I love 2012 series, it's something I relate to so much and grew up with. It's my most favorite version of TMNT.
But the thing is, ever since the Rise movie got released, I've been seeing nothing but slander against the 2012 series and it breaks my heart every time I come across it. It has escalated to an unfair point that I've seen even 2012 fans who love it just as much begin hating aspects of it. I mean, don't get me wrong, it does have its flaws but it's unfair how highlighted those select few flaws are to the point of extremely biased comparisons and blame games and general 2012 slander which half the time doesn't even comply with canon. Moreover, literally every TMNT has its flaws just the same.
And recently, I've been seeing an increase in posts on your blog that have 2012 slander undercurrents or simply blatant frustrations with it. I love the comic but keep seeing this hatred still is just... it hurts ya know. Like really actually hurts.
So if possible, can you plz tag such posts with something I can filter out? (And let us know what that tag will be?) You don't have to but I really really love your art and comics, it's just the 2012 slander again that hurts me and I don't want to see it anymore. I've been seeing it everywhere.
Again, plz don't take this the wrong way, it's just something that's been hurting me and I had to get it off my chest. And find a solution to it that doesn't involve blocking or unfollowing because I genuinely do love this fancomic
Thank you for your feedback!!💕 (seriously feedback is extremely appreciated to me!)
I sorry my posts came off as 2012 slander, I really never meant it like that. I will admit I do critique media pretty aggressively, but I never mean it in a hateful way. TMNT 2012 is one of my absolute favorite shows and I love everything about! It’s the weird quirky stuff about it that while yes, I will criticize, I still love. It wouldn’t be the same without it. Just like the weather, I will complain about it, but I don’t want it to actually change.
I will try to be more conscious of how my posts are perceived, I really never wanted there to be a bias on my blog. I love all of TMNT for all it presents, and I don’t want to ever be slanderous!
Thank you again for your kind nudge! I’m very thankful to have people like you who��ll tell me if I’m making a mistake! I truly do love TMNT 2012. I can’t fix what I’ve said, but now that I know, I can be sure to be more careful to not sound biased going forward.
Again, I’m very sorry it came off that way, I didn’t mean to be so harsh. I never want to harm a series’s reputation, especially one that I love so much!
You are truly appreciated!💕
I know this won’t fix the things I’ve said, but I’ll say 3 of my top favorite things about 2012:
I love the way they depicted characters! They do an amazing job using indirect characterization that makes the characters feel so real. The characters don’t have to tell you things about themselves, you learn about them from the way the interact with each other, the way they solve problems, the things they like and dislike, and even what they’re doing in the background! It really feels like you’re there getting to know these fun people and go on adventures with them! Truly amazing!
I love the way the turtles look! Seriously I think they look so cool, and at the same time cute. They’re visual designs inspired me so much in my art and I will watch hours on end of them because they’re just so freaking cool!
I love the way their stories are told! The episodes are so well paced that it never feels boring to watch an episode! Believe it or not, I have never once wondered how many minutes are left on an episode. It’s so good at sucking you in and addicting you, that while I was watching it for the first time, I was straight up binging it and would be forced to put it down by my parents. Several times I would stop to eat something and have that weird “wait, who am I? What is my life?” Thing you get from a really good story. The stories and arc pacing are so good that Indie TMNT, my original series is using massive inspiration from 2012.
Once again, I am truly sorry for coming off as slanderous. Thank you for being so brave and telling me what many people were probably thinking. I want to do better. Thank you! :]
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androdetective · 9 months ago
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Don't harass anyone just block
This isn't something I wouldn't make without reason. I'm sure a lot of people must of noticed these out of place posts in the 31 minutos tag
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Spinergy-69 posted in the main 31 minutos tag, except this was a post directed against a post of the person in the screenshot.
"Things that make me laugh? Having debated a thousand years ago a public post tagged "Tulio Triviño" in which I thought I was going to be able to debate at ease with another fan, fighting arguments for the mere fun of doing it, and after 437268573 days he still quotes someone who commented a list of things for which he didn't think the same. I really am unforgettable. 🚬 Don't worry, I'm all about talking things face to face, instead of sending childish indirects like this specimen, but the times l've tried to talk it out in the posts he devotes to me, he cries even louder the baby, so that's all that's left and my last reference to it, Peace"
Below it is an image of that person's post (who will be called "A") he was responding to, it reads:
"Every time I see a white humanization of Tulio (even more if he is blonde/has streaked hair like the puppet) it takes years off my life. HE LOOKS HORRIBLE LIKE THAT THEY TOOK AWAY HIS MELANIN!!!
(don't take this post so seriously I don't want whiners to come and try to "debate" like when I said that Tulio was canonically fat)"
he also wrote tags that said "#bonus points if they make Bodoque more brown than him #it seems classist to me #the rich guy has to be white and the other more brown because he doesn't have as much money"
User Spinergy drew a box around the last sentence that says, "No one, absolutely no one draws him more brown because of that"
In the second image, Spinergy again posts in the 31 minutos tag a post directed against A. A has told Spinergy many times not to interact with him, and Spinergy has continued to ignore that. It says:
"I want to cancel (person's @) for giving me the spectacular HC that Juan Carlos Bodoque would be brown for being exposed to the most extreme weather conditions, being an off-road reporter. Between the Chilean desert and the Chilean arctic he would have a tan color worth appreciating. Assuming that fans have related skin tone to monetary acquisition, is in fact, the most classist thought I have read in a long time, cancel (he calls A a snake)"
I will add that in the comments of this post, he speaks with his friend and it says this:
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"I accept the cancelation, I am enemy #1 of a JC with PERFECTLY WHITE skin, how would he not have sun spots, a constant tan or noticeable burns considering he even let himself be buried under sand?
-And what a great episode it was, holy shit... Totally cinematic.
-Besides, we already have someone with milky skin and another with pure, porcelain-white skin. Let the adventurer express his savagery in his skin, let the tan be a mark of life rather than a social stigma"
I don't have to explain why that's colorist language. Attributing savagery and the wild with tan/brown skin is very bad. It's ironic he's called A discriminatory when he's fine with this.
After those two posts, A responds with this:
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"I seriously have to clarify that in my previous post that when I said that it seems classist to me that Tulio is always made white and Juan Carlos brown, I don't mean that EVERY such humanization is classist in itself, but because classism mixed with racism/colorism in LATAM is something very present???
Yes, each person may have a reason for why Bodoque is brown (whether it's because of work, being born that way or just because one likes it) but I simply mentioned that because people sometimes mess up with it unintentionally. It just can't be that I said in the post not to take it so seriously, and a few hours later, I found out that they took it seriously. He then accuses me of being a classist for making a connection??? what a laugh.
I was referring to the fact that rich people always have to be made white, almost as if tulio for being a spoiled rich guy has to be white even though the same series shows that he is not, he looks like Pedro Peirano (his voice actor) who's not white. I didn't accuse the headcanon of brown bodoque as something bad nor did I say that I think it is bad in itself wtf is up with people."
A then writes in the tags "#well what do I expect from the guy that I asked to NOT INTERACT with me and he keeps on doing it to defame me"
This seems reasonable enough. Spinergy then decides to comment.
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"Lalala~ we saw you. Im happy I took that screenshot,
-"Discriminatory" is when I complain about stereotypes that can seep into what you do whether in a good way or not. And what if you get yourself a job instead of being obsessed with me, fan????
-I hadn't responded to any of the indirects you left publically for me, but I'm fed up with you, all day long looking for attention, leave me alone. Pretending someone pays attention to you won't make you turn history on its head. The one with the childish and not at all brave indirects, is you, it's not my style. Just stop crying, you're too big for that.
-"all day looking for attention" man I only mentioned you in ONE post. Besides I had blocked you, SUPPOSEDLY you shouldn't be able to see my posts. Anyways, you never responding was a lie, you literally dedicated two whole posts trashing me because why not.
-If you didn't bump into me you wouldn't make posts using the show's hashtag to get my friends attention or mine. You're too old to be fighting with people my age. It'd be better if you go pay taxes or do something really productive. I've thought about blocking you and never seeing you in my life, that's why I mentioned you in a post.
-You have severe mythomania. You invent bullshit to bash anyone who disagrees with you. This wasn't my words but I was told you were a lot like "Hitler" and I agree. Wrapping it up, it's easier to catch a liar than a thief, so it will be for you, everyone has to pay for their mistakes eventually. Peace out and really block this time, I don't block. That's for pussys."
Completely immature and so unnecessarily mean for an adult to speak like this to a minor. A minor who has said many times he doesn't want him to interact with him. This is just bully behavior.
The thing that started Spinergy to harass A was this post
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"Tulio should be drawn chubby more often... It bothers me a bit that whenever he's humanized, it isn't taken into account that he's canonically chubby. I'd like to see that reflected in fanart more 😔"
Things then go downhill in the comments
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"He's not fat, it's just that as a television personality he's held to strict and unattainable standards, so even though he's known to be on a diet, it's hard for him to meet those standards.
-They still call him fat, dude. If he calls himself fat, then he is fat.
-Of course they're going to tell him that, tulio lives in a way that is very much dependent on his appearance, if you want to screw a tv figure, telling him like that is the most effective way to ruin his day. The camera will make you gain between 5 and 8 kilos. If your weight is normal, you still have to lose another 5 more to look thin on tv. Maybe he's fat for tv, but he's still average.
-Dude what do I care. I'm just saying it because it pisses me off that they always make him a stick 😭 Is it so hard for a little guy to say that he wants to see tulio fat or
-Hmmn, frustration over a conversation as to what we've seen canon and what we haven't? hahaha, what
-You are unbearable, "Ay Tulio can't be fat because *insert dumb reason*" Dude, what does it affect you that I see tulio fat? does it bother you that much?
-Hahaha, I didn't even get upset. It was you who started screaming about your own personal frustrations. at least my "dumb reasons" have much more logic than your zero frustration tolerance. You are fighting like I insulted your own belly, control yourself like an adult.
-"Control yourself as an adult" I'm a minor, dude, it looks like you didn't see my post that mentions it lol. Tulio is not in his 20s, it makes all the sense in the world that he is fat or has SOME belly, in the fourth season MINIMUM he starts his 40s, besides it was YOU who came with the " he's not fat because TV stars aren't" story.
-Besides, it makes me laugh at how you talk so much about the canon and make Juan Carlos a redhead or Tulio with striped hair when they are respectively blonde and black-haired. It's like... bruh
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"Believe me, my love, it shows that you're a minor, haha. In any case, that's not what I said, and you know that very well. And yes, I know Tulio is in his 40s in the last season, which is not synonymous with being fat.
-I don't understand why you write in such a fucking disgusting know-it-all way but hey. A man in his 40's would be letting himself loose (getting old), and besides Tulio is not into working out, it would make sense for him to have a belly. Tulio getting screwed by being fat would look good with his character and would speak to how much, despite pretending to love himself, hates his looks and does everything to his physical appearance and does everything to change it +
-(Continued) There are episodes that mainly revolve around or focus on Tulio being seen as fat. It WOULD make sense that he would be. Now I ask: what is your reason for COMING to my post complaining "ay he's not fat" and then screaming when you started the whole thing.
-I came to say my opinion because that's what you leave public posts for, so that the rest of the fandom can give our personal opinion, and that's what I did. And when I commented normally you jumped in with "dude what do I care" a way that, according to me, contain zero respect. So check the comments back, I'm just telling you that I don't think alike, and that's why I said you have zero frustration tolerance, since you won't admit to being told "no".
-If you wanted so much respect you could have simply said "I like the way you see the subject but I think that this (insert your reasoning) is better" not come to say "ummm he is not fat because I say so" and then call me a crybaby and then treat me as less and act superior. I came with all the desire in the world to share what I believe and you had to come and say that it isn't true because it does not make sense.
-Who gets to say I think it's a good idea when it's not? It doesn't seem so to me, and that's why I came to debate in a healthy way, in any case, that you need me to say something like that denotes your insecurity in front of the subject. And no, just because you use diminutives like "ganitas", it won't change the fact that you jumped to defend yourself when no one parroted nothing."
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-The way you said it it sounded more like "he's not fat because I said so" rather than "I don't believe he's fat".
-By giving arguments like the world of television, cameras, diets, the immeasurable unreal pressure on media figures, I am not saying "because I say so", on the contrary, rather it is something similar to: Look, I have these cards that could be possible clues. Try not to be so delicate when someone comes to comment on another of your posts casually.
-You know what? If you weren't so nasty I would have listened to you, treating me as lesser simply for getting mad at you, some of your arguments might be interesting, but suuure it was very difficult to tell me something to my face instead of calling me "delicate" or "frustrated", no of course not /sarc
-To your face? Haha, I'm telling you to your face that you got frustrated for no reason, that you got into a fight when I only came to debate a topic I'm passionate about, and that you have tolerance of a little girl, to your face.
-Not the misgendering 💀💀💀 You've whined at me enough, if you like the block button so much then eat it whole
-It was "No tolerance", my phone betrays me with its auto-correct. And do what you want, you reaffirm my theory that you have no tolerance"
Spinergy is acting rude and like a child. Over something as petty as a sock monkey being fat. It's one thing if he's just a rude person but it's another to act like a bully to a minor. A minor who he knows he makes uncomfortable. It's his responsibility to be the mature one and not go after a kid. It'd be so much easier to ignore A and continue living. He just wants to antagonize someone younger than him for no reason.
Here Spinergy ignores A's boundaries and argues
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"Why is that? Because I told you some time ago that I thought differently? different?
-For being annoying and ignorant, and for trying to play the "intellectual," you make me seriously uncomfortable, and I don't want you here. End of.
-Bah, I only commented with my point of view because by making a public post, you are indirectly inviting others to participate, but then you started crying for nothing. If you don't want people to come and comment on a topic you put on the table, I insist, tag it, block and problem solved.
-I blocked you in fact, but for whatever reason, you can still comment. Don't act like you "came to give your opinion" far from it, you told me that Tulio being fat didn't make sense because of "TV standards" which don't apply to male newshosts, and then when I told you "what do I care" you started to bawl like I killed your family.
-Sure what do I know, I have friends who have told me how muuuch you like to bother people on other social medias, all agree that you are extremely unpleasant to deal with, clearly the one who is wrong is me not you, because you're an angel, right? /Sarc
-No, no, I love debating, it's my favorite national sport. The one who cried here is the one who, curiously, blocked me and got offended. I could talk or debate all my life. It's obvious who is itching to fight.
-In fact I wouldn't have had a problem with it being your opinion (which you just used to make yourself look better at the last minute), what was disgusting to me was the way you started to act superior out of nowhere, first telling me "to act like an adult", and when I told you I wasn't you mocked me saying "I knew you were a minor". Oh but I'm the crybaby for saying "what do I care" XD????
-But how did they recognize me? And on what other social media? Bullshit. Although the very idea of being considered as such makes me laugh hahahaha. Anyway, I don't get offended by anything, nothing at all, so if I seemed offended, it was a misunderstanding, so you can lower your weapons.
-On Facebook, I've literally been told that you used to roleplay as Bodoque and bully because one person did a Juanin voice with your little friends, besides many people saw the conversation and it made them cringe with your way of imposing yourself as if you were Jesus Christ.
P.S if you weren't offended you wouldn't have started with your bullshit comments that I'm "frustrated" ;)
-No, no, as I said, I don't get offended by anything, I insult my friends worse hahaha, it's the truth. Maybe both, you and I, interpreted that the other was frustrated wrongly. And yes I have a Juan Carlos account, it's the most popular on Facebook, but it's roleplay. I never go out of character. It is clearly a compliment to its existence. I never comment as a user there, so the mockery of which you speak was in character, laughing as Bodoque and Tulio.
-I'm still fed up with you, so please don't interact with my account anymore. I don't want you here.
-Anyway, you didn't consider possible excessive exaltation, or possible misinterpretation on your part, as if you couldn't be wrong in a debate. Many points can lead a person to argue, in your case. In mine, I only came to comment about Guaripolo, for another, blockk.
-I already told you that I had blocked you. Just that for some reason I don't know, you can still interact with my posts. That's why I told you to stop doing it."
At this point, he could've simply apologized and respected his wishes. Why be so disrespectful towards someone who hasn't done anything harmful. Not only that but he also confirmed that account A mentioned. If Spinergy is comfortable enough acting like this then I don't have high hopes for what he's done on facebook.
A wants Spinergy to not interact with him not only because of that, but also because Spinergy's account is technically 18+. He has posted nsfw art before. As an owner of an adult blog, he needs to state that it is one. Even if the blog has a little nsfw.
While he did appropriately tag that post as nsfw, he also maintagged it as 31 minutos. The 31 minutos tumblr community has a lot of minor fans, with the chance of them possibly seeing it. It wasn't put under the mature label either.
I don't have much closing words except to stop being mean, stop interacting with minors with an account you've posted nsfw to (alongside suggestive themes), and to act like an adult.
Block him and don't harass anyone here. Don't mention names of anyone involved, the main focus is Spinergy.
I'll finish off with words from A
"Spinergy should block me too if he's tired of me. Because I'm sick of feeling insecure about posting things and him seeing it"
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pagodazz · 1 year ago
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hi so first off i want to say as a fellow vinny fan seeing your vinnyposting has been amazing, hes so underrated its great to see someone appreciate him!! and secondly i wanted to ask if you could elaborate on the tag on your post where you said 'habit is a manifestation of vinnys bad habits' it sounds like a cool perspective and im curious what makes you think that.. sounds very smart and i'd love to hear more. no pressure though!! love your posts ❤️❤️❤️
HIIIIII HII IM SO GLAD YOU ENJOY THE VINNY POSTING!!
and I'm so glad you asked about this.
Habit and Vinny's relationship is so complicated, there's so many layers in figuring out what REALLY is happening between the two. Habit isn't just controlling Vinny, Vinny is giving into habit, feeding into him, continuously letting him back into his life even though all habit does is HURT.
And to me it for some reason, it just makes sense. Habit is the thing thats taking all of Vinny's friends away, but it's Vinny's OWN ACTIONS that pushes his friends to death. Though what's happening is out of his hands, he's the indirect cause of it all.
And I think that when people have such strong addictions or "bad habits" so to speak, they can drive their friends away.
Or your own friends have lost themselves to their own bad habits that you can't help but fall victim to your own.
it's so many things all at once, but habit is this sick venom that's filling Vinny's veins and hes constantly aching for it. When habit isnt there he can't help but miss him almost, but when habits around he wants nothing more than to be away from him.
Take it like a cigarette, smoking is a bad habit.
You'll light a cigarette and say, "I should really quit. this isn't healthy for me."
but then you're out and suddenly all you need is ONE cigarette to even get through your day.
Habit was something that was a constant in Vinny's life, something solid to grab onto. A stabilizer almost?
anyways,
Vinny's bad habits include so many things, but I think his BIGGEST, is his need for pain.
He craves to be hurt, to feel something, he wants to induce more pain so there's more to feel and if there's more to feel there's more for the viewers to watch and that means more eyes on him.
And we could bring in what Jeff says in twenty-four months, "Please stop watching us."
it all circles around to the camera and Vinny being the voyeur, yk? That sick twisted sense of justice he gets from showing the world the truth.
and I hate to drag this on more BUT!!!!!
to bring another quote again, this time from the everyman play:
"The Voyeur shall watch from an emotional distance, insisting upon maintaining their strength."
and that's exactly what Vinny, he was so focused on keeping everything strong and not letting anything affect him that he let his bad habits consume and now he spends his life being tortured by the decisions he made, haunted by the memories.
The being of habit keeps Vinny around, he's important to the final plan, he'll wring Vinny dry so the only thing Vinny CAN do is comply with him.
the same way a bad habit can consume a person whole, (Jeff) ending their life, It can make you violent and tear your life apart (Evan), And it can cloud your brain, making you think that all you need in life is your one bad habit and thank god for that habit. (Vinny)
I HOPE WHAT I SAID MAKES SENSE????? I could be speaking totally gibberish rn bc it's my first time actually talking about this. But if anything is confusing or something I will be so happy to talk more about the characters :D!!!!!!!
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captainhysunstuff · 1 year ago
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This post is an indirect but direct acknowledgment of a message that I wasn’t comfortable answering in the Tumblr answer format where it shows the “question.” The main reason I still wanted to address it is because the anonymous sender described me as one of the “fluffy as cotton” members of the Death Note fandom, and I thought that was super cute and flattering as heck~. I absolutely couldn’t ignore that~. Thank you so much, Anonymous! Even if it wasn’t a compliment, reading it and realizing that it’s kind of true still made me giggle~. ❤️
On a heavier note, beneath the “Read More,” I’ll address the darker content of the message, and explain why I’m not comfortable directly answering it in the standard way.
CONTENT WARNING: actually problematic shipping and hints towards explicit/disturbing subjects. I don’t go into detail.
So, I received an anonymous ask/message the other day basically warning me away from a user who apparently specializes in a particular pairing (L x Watari) and writes explicitly disturbing stuff regarding it and other subjects. However, I’m not 100% comfortable directly answering it since the username was listed. I don’t condone online harassment at all. I don’t even want to accidentally encourage it.
That said, it’s certainly not a pairing I go out of my way to find, but being in the Death Note fandom for as long as I have, I’ve certainly unintentionally encountered it. I’m glad that I’ve personally never seen it portrayed as positive or desirable at the very least, but my age and experience with the Internet has lead me to expect anything. I haven’t seen everything, but not much surprises me in regards to shipping and fanfiction. It’s no secret that I’m pretty open minded shipping-wise, and I know that people are gonna ship and write whatever they want no matter what anyone does. But I’m also pretty good at avoiding stuff that doesn’t sit well with me, and what you’ve described (not just the pairing) definitely doesn’t sit well with me. So, I appreciate your concern, but don’t worry about me~.
It did sound like you needed to vent about whatever you read, so hopefully that helped you move past the experience. I can relate to encountering something online that I just was not ready for or really disturbed me. Really gotta mind those content tags, yo. Don’t skim them. They’re there for a reason. Though it’s absolutely on the writer or artist if they don’t tag well enough or give enough of a warning of what’s in their work. Tags and warnings are basic common courtesies nowadays. Nobody likes nasty surprises.
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whoblewboobear · 2 months ago
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Hiiii you don’t have to answer this publicly I just wanted to send you in some support bc I saw ppl are indirecting us and being kinda annoying and missing the point but it made me feel bad and after seeing your recent tag I presumed you felt the same. I just wanna say your post was good and I’m glad to know someone felt the way I do. Some people tend to get reallyyyy petty and mean spirited over a damn reality show and it’s unserious. Sending love your way. I’ve loved seeing your posts this season!!!!!! You’re awesome and a great presence in the tag🩷
I really appreciate it! 💖 it just blows that not liking a woman’s gameplay gets us called misogynistic even when riding hard for most of the women on the cast that are playing better games in comparison.
I just.. I don’t understand why Leah is the hill we’re dying on. People were critical as fuck about T’Kor and Rubina but no one was called a misogynist, when arguably being harsher towards them. Fully calling T’Kor an idiot. But for the white blonde woman now feminism is in shambles and we hate women that are flirty. I deleted the post bc I’m just- I’m not dealing with that shit. But someone compared it to how any criticism about Taylor swift gets you called a misogynist and yep. People ride hard for blonde white women and will uphold white feminism before hearing what the other person is saying just bc they’re saying something critical.
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fang-revives · 3 months ago
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2, 5, 8
2. a headcanon you weren't sure about at first but have come to like!
I initially hesitated to throw “birdwatching” at my Jay White characterization because it felt a little out of touch with kayfabe Jay White (although it is a shootguy Jaime White activity). But when “Jay gardens” became kayfabe and I started to like the idea of Jay birdwatches / Kazu fishes as a shared activity, I warmed up to it. 
5. something you see in fics a lot and love
I feel like “see a lot in fics” implies I read widely of the NJPW+ AEW tags when I’m fairly selective about what I read just because of having a busy life and wanting to comment on most of what I like (takes time and energy!). However the common theme in my bookmarks is fic that engages really whole-heartedly with the weirdness of wrestling (in the context of kayfabe). I also love when fic is specific and loving in place, but indirect and metaphorical in the way characters are relating to each other. And when the dynamic is Fucking Weird which, tbh, pro wrestling can be pretty fruitful for 
8. you hope more people will come to appreciate ___ (a ship, a trope, an episode, etc)
I think more broadly I’d love for AEW fans to sample or get a sense of Katsuyori Shibata’s whole arc and thing. And yeah, like selfishly would love more Takeover fans, but even taking a step back from the shipping – although I’m glad that he’s getting shine as tough puro hardo from Japan, his whole story is so deeply more than that to me. I made a match recs post (https://fang-revives.tumblr.com/post/745209833470459904/sybs-shibata-match-recs) I feel so passionately about this. 
But also hng ugh join takeover fans in going Fucking Insane for crumbs. Glad you’re in the soup too Cass :D
fandom asks!
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donnapalude · 3 months ago
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For the record, I think that your meta has always been very coherent to anyone who was reading it consistently and not cherry-picking. You’re just new, so you don’t know that there are a lot of people in the fandom who project on Silver HEAVILY and don’t take well to criticism of him. To be fair, this is partly because, ages ago, there were a lot of people in the fandom who hated him aggressively (and imo in bad faith), so a lot of long-time Silver fans are a little traumatized. Frankly, if people are that sensitive, I don’t think they should be looking in the main tag because some true BULLSHIT gets posted in there from time to time. Personally, I found the thoughtful takes of yourself and your contemporaries to be a nice change of pace. I appreciate your mature and empathetic response to people’s statements and I’m glad to see that you haven’t been deterred from sharing your thoughts in the future!
thank you so much this is such a nice message, i am very happy you enjoy my random thoughts <3
not deterred at all! disagreement is healthy and normal. i do wish they would have taken the time to get some context before assuming what i meant, but at the same time i know i am also guilty of the same: it's not that i never judged a post without looking at the whole blog of the author. it happens. ultimately, when you write a post, you know it's mainly going to be read as a singular unit. and yeah, reading it back in isolation, i can see how some things i wrote could come off the wrong way, i was a bit untoughtful maybe. that also happens! hence the apology. i am secure enough in what were my intentions, so i don't really feel defensive about it. and to be fair the indirecting was not hateful or cruel, it was just a different take. the clarification was really meant less as an attack towards those posters and more as a way to repair eventual harm or offence caused. i know people with disabilities suffer a lot of stigma related to prejudice that they are faking or exploiting their disabilities to gain various advantages as well as insecurities and feelings of over-dependency on others. it is mainly my wish to avoid them feeling misrepresented and villainized by what i wrote.
thank you again for reaching out tho, i appreciate the support and knowing that i am overall getting my point across successfully!
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storm-and-starlight · 2 years ago
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I'm reblogging with @vesikasidesi's tags from the notes
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because yeah! I did use indirect communication in the ask, and I am ND, and I didn't even notice it! (so thank you so much for pointing this out, because it's making me think about my own communication style! /gen) Which leads into another way that indirect communication is used (that I've also noticed), which is that it's used to express politeness.
English doesn't have a "polite" tense, like how in French you use vous instead of tu, or Japanese's entire layered system of increasing formality, and you can't just use longer words or more obscure words, 'cause that just makes you sound strange, so instead you go the route of "not placing obligation on people", which in practice, means you go indirect.
"Make me a sandwich." vs. "Could you make me a sandwich?" vs "I would appreciate a sandwich." are ways of requesting a sandwich that all increase (to my perception, anyways) in politeness, from a blunt and rather rude request, to a direct question that wouldn't be appropriate in some situations, to a polite request that still places no obligation on the listener to actually make a sandwich.
I don't know Gallus very well , so I didn't feel comfortable just making a direct request to write an entire post. So instead, I expressed interest while trying not to place any requirement on them to make the post: "hey, if you did make the post, I would be really interested in it, but you don't have to if you don't want to!" which sounds a lot more polite to me.
...anyways, I don't know where I'm going with this, but communication is funky and this was a really really good breakdown of direct vs. indirect communication, thank you!
Hello this is just to say that I am very interested in that post you mentioned maybe making about indirect communication!
So to define Direct and Indirect communication with a pair of examples real fast:
Direct communication: "Hey, can you do the dishes?" Indirect communication: "There's dishes in the sink." (Please wash them.)
Indirect communication tends to trip a lot of ND, but especially Autistic people up because the implied request in the parentheses... doesn't always come through. So you don't do the dishes, and the Indirect communicator gets frustrated because they thought they had made that request perfectly clearly.
Which, in their defense, they did! ...in their micro-cultural language.
See, the actual purpose of Indirect Communication is to provide some extra verbal personal space and non-aggression measures in micro-cultures where people's personal autonomy has been compromised but there is also a high degree of understood social context.
Hm. That's a weird sentence. Let's try some more examples.
Indirect communication is most common in places or situations where people's ability to stay in their own lane is compromised, but everyone also shares the same base knowledge of what's going on. One example is in large cities, where people are PHYSICALLY up in each other's personal space because they're physically crowded. So cities have etiquette like "Don't make eye contact on public transit unless you actually need to address someone", so that, if people can't stop violating your personal space, they can at least signal non-aggression and give you some privacy. People raised in large cities, or who have lived there for a while all learn these unspoken rules by trial and error, some of us with more errors and trials than others.
Thus, in physically compact situations, "There's dishes in the sink" means "There's dishes in the sink." (I trust that you are already familiar with the social rules that dictate that dishes need to be done, and assume the reason you haven't done them is because you haven't seen the sink yet. I won't insult your intelligence by elaborating on the Do The Dishes Rule, because I know you are smart <3)
Speaking of Privacy, the other place indirect communication is common is in situations where people have Limited Privacy and thus everyone knows what's going on with them, and they know what's going on with everyone else, whether they want to or not. Close-knit families and religious communities often have this shared no-privacy pool, but it can also happen with you and two roommates in a 100sq ft apartment, or on a research vessel in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Since y'all are up in each other's business, indirect communication is there to prevent hostility in close quarters.
This, in a low-privacy situation, "There's dishes in the sink." means "There's dishes in the sink." (I know you are a good and responsible roommate who is maybe a little forgetful, and I trust you to have enough context from living in the live feed of everyone's life to know that I need them done. I won't insult you by suggesting your motivation was malicious in any way, and i trust you to do them <3)
So, to an indirect communicator, that was a perfectly clear request to do the dishes because OF COURSE you'd know what they meant- literally everyone else they deal with is in on this shared knowledge of social rules and daily updates. And not elaborating on that request is an affectionate sign of trust in your competence.
Except, you know. You're not.
So, you try to explain to your indie friend that "There's dishes in the sink." only sounds like an observation, and your brain will not auto-fill in the request like theirs does, so if you want me to do the dishes, just ask with words, okay?
And your indie friend understands this! but then instead of going "Hey, can you do the dishes?" they instead don't say ANYTHING until they're really frustrated with the state of the kitchen, and communicate VERY directly at you, and with great anger.
What happened?
So remember how indirect communication exists to prevent hostility and violence? That's because the threat of hostility and violence is VERY, VERY REAL.
Like you, your indirect communication friend made some mistakes while learning The Unsaid Rules and How To Use The Shared Information Pool, and the social hammer came down on them HARD. Ostracization, ridicule, maybe even actual, psychical harm. So they grew very, very afraid of violating those secret rules, and doubly so with people they like, so your indirect communication friend is facing this HUGE EMOTIONAL BLOCK when it comes to directly communicating with you, because to someone who grew up with their boundaries compromised and the threat of hostility if they violate the communication rules, communicating directly with someone they love feels really, really, really mean and they don't want to hurt or lose you.
For real, "Hey, please do the dishes" sounds like "Hey, please do the dishes." (You fucking moron who doesn't give a shit about our home and probably hates me) to them, and they don't want to talk like that to you. It's like how we never like picking the mean dialogue option in video games.
So instead they... just don't say anything at all, rather than risk a potential confrontation, and then the dishes don't get done and it turns into a REAL confrontation.
What a headache.
So what are we gonna do?
Well, you can't control your friend's actions, emotional reactions or interpersonal skills, but you can manage yours, and you're gonna have to meet them halfway, and it's gonna feel like training a skittish cat that coming out from under the couch is safe. Several-pronged approach:
DO NOT PUNISH BEHAVIOR YOU WANT TO SEE. When your friend does manage to say "Hey, please do the dishes?" don't go "UUUUGH IN A MINUTE." even if you are in the middle of something else and their timing sucks, which is probably does. Stick to either neutral responses ("Cool, let me finish this paragraph and I'll get on that") to positive responses ("Oh, sure! Thanks for letting me know!")
REWARD THE BEHAVIOR YOU WANT TO SEE. -and then actually go do the dishes to demonstrate that this approach not only is safe, it's effective. Also, praise your friend when they do a good job communicating with you. "Hey, thanks for actually asking me to do the dishes, that was really helpful." or "You're doing a great job navigating and giving me directions, this is much less stressful than the GPS" or "Thanks for being honest about how I was annoying you and bringing it up before it became a huge issue." This will kind of feel like you're an actor on sesame street teaching big bird how to say please and thank you, but honestly? that was the age most of us learned our communication skills, and we return to that teaching method because BY GOD IT WORKS.
MODEL THE BEHAVIORS YOU WANT TO SEE. Humans learn by copying, so lead by example with the kind of communication that helps you, and explain why it helps. "Hey friend, a question so I can schedule some stuff- Do you have any plans this weekend I should know about, or am I clear to paint the bathroom?"
This is the one that sucks but YOU GOTTA MEET THEM HALFWAY AND LEARN ABOUT THE CONTEXT POOL. Can't make everyone learn, and Indirect communication has it's uses (especially in modern jobs and social media), so you gotta learn their style too. I literally have a discord server that's just me where I keep notes on the life events and conditions of my friends, coworkers, neighbors and loved ones because I know I won't remember that shit, but they will kind of expect me to, and it's been a lifesaver in both not blundering into social faux pas, and actually getting around my crap memory to know them better. You can also model hybrid communication and practice your indirect skills by using an indirect request opener, but then saying the rest of the implied context aloud: "Hey, there's dishes in the sink. I know you'll do that ASAP because you're cool, I just wanted to make sure you knew they were there and needed to be washed, thanks <3"
Accept that some people aren't gonna change for reasons that are beyond their control and probably have nothing to do with you, and decide what you're willing to invest in learning to deal with them. I still have to play 5D words chess with my mother-in-law, who was raised in a close-physical-space-AND-no-privacy culture and is an excruciatingly anxious indirect communicator as a result. I can't make her go to therapy for the anxiety, and until she does, her ability to communicate effectively probably won't improve. It's got nothing to do with me, even if I'm the person she's most frequently at odds with. As a result, I have extremely limited contact with her. I don't see her for more than a few hours at a time, when we have an activity to do together, and only a handful of times a year. More than that, and I get brainworms by proxy, so for my sanity, I've limited what I am willing to do with her. Maybe your indirect communicator is someone worth effectively learning a second language for, like a lover. Maybe they're someone you can cut out of your life entirely without issue, like a manger at a retail job you can quit. You'll have to decide.
Anyway, that's my raised-bilingual ADHD/Autism Direct/indirect communicator ramble, hope it helps.
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bangchanswolfpelt · 2 years ago
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it is absolutely wild that we've hit a point where this feels like a thing that needs to be said, but—
if you're reblogging the shit i write and yelling about how much you like it, i appreciate the hell out of you. i've probably never replied, because i'm socially awkward and have no idea what to do when people say kind things (and also i'm from the era of tumblr where it was only proper to politely avert your eyes when someone did an acrobatic fucking pirouette off the handle in the tags of your post), but please know that i probably go back and reread what you said on the regular when i need a shot of Good Brain Chemicals and that i think the fact that you put in the effort that you did makes you braver than any goddamn marine.
if you're reblogging the shit i write and not saying anything at all, i also appreciate the hell out of you. maybe you didn't say anything because even the most indirect of social interaction makes you anxious, maybe your brain was tired, or maybe you just didn't have much to say. you still slapped my post onto your blog the way i tape Yoongi postcards to my walls and that's goddamn cool of you.
if you leave a like and don't say anything, guess what—we still appreciate the hell out of you in this house. you took a second to do something you absolutely didn't have to! that's still pretty fuckin cool of you, to do a single thing more than is absolutely necessary, some days i don't even do that much.
if you're not reblogging or liking anything, you're just here to read and vibe—it's hard to appreciate someone i don't know exists, but you bet i'm fuckin trying. i think it’s cool that you’re doing fandom on your own terms and i hope it’s a fun escape from whatever else you’ve got going on.
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meowmeowbilly · 2 years ago
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I have recently seen some of my Tumblr posts stolen and posted word for word on Twitter without credit, so, yeah. I have a Twitter and if I'm gonna post the same thing on Twitter that I posted on Tumblr, I will always put that in my tags on Tumblr. So if you see my posts out there, 99.9% of the time, it's not me. I appreciate this community so much and the support we give each other. This is not an indirect or a call out post, I'm not interested in going after the people who are stealing the posts, it's not worth it. I just wanted to give my mutuals a heads up that if you see my posts on Twitter (not screenshots, but literally copied, word for word and posted as a tweet) it's probably not me.
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