#and then cellbit. Where bad was like ‘i see him destroying himself to get the eggs back and i know where that road goes’
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something about qbad mentioning how much horror he put red team thru every time purgatory gets brought up... something about how proud dapper was of him.
like this is just my late-night read but- it feels like guilt qbad is trying to twist into pride. he keeps needling away at it. “i killed them all, over and over and over again.” “they were hunted by a monster.”
it’s like- reassurance. like a nail he’s trying o beat into his head. he’s had SO much trouble with legitimately hurting his friends, despite making that vow all the way back when the eggs first went missing, despite all the tree talk and the promises to save the kids no matter what. He never faltered with elq, and that protected them. He keeps faltering now. Sometimes he doesnt remember the code, or cucurucho, or skeppy. But that doesnt matter, right? Because he’ll protect the eggs. He’ll be the monster. he is the monster. he can and he will protect them even as his seams start ripping and he keeps breaking further and further apart. even at his worst, he’ll do whatever he needs to protect the eggs.
he’ll be the monster. wont he?
#qsmp#he loves his friends and he wants to hurt them#he loves his friends and he doesnt want to hurt them#qsmp badboyhalo#ita like. He was torturing himself with the soul vultures because he kidnapped ron and threw down some scary magma mobs#and then forever changwd rhe whole fuckin narrative with that appreciation room and bad remembered the joy of community#and then cellbit. Where bad was like ‘i see him destroying himself to get the eggs back and i know where that road goes’#’his loved ones dont want that to happen to him. i dont want that to happen to him’#and then purgatory gave him the first actal legitimate lead for finding their kids and he just had to get worse#and so he fucking swandived into self destructive violence (and the cc was purposefully playing qbad more recklessly violent)#(bbgirl couldve been lured into a trap so so easily)#ive lost my point somewhere now im just rotating qbbh in my brain and all the parallels#ah yes. But now theyre out of purgatory. And he refuses to regret what he did because he *had* to do what he could to save dapper#and the other eggs#because he has a huge complex about being the ‘only one who can protect the eggs’ because of a thousand little cuts and his mental health#issues. Like he’s Wrong bur its such a fascinating little direction for his character. Yes king burn thyself on the pure of protection#and then burn in a nuclear blast too because your self sufficiency left you to care for your egg alone#you can take care of the eggs. you can hurt your friends. look at how much you hurt your friends#look st the monster you are . your teeth are sharp and your claws are large#never mind that time you sent tina into a panic attack because you tried to recreate safety#never mind that your friends and family are worried about you#you are falling apart. but so many monsters survive the killing blow
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SEMI-FINALS
PROPAGANDA:
Familoier:
I CANT SPEND THE NEXT HOUR TYPING
THE TRIO OF ALL TIME TRULY- ALL 3 OF THEM LOVE AND CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER SO MUCH- LIKE ROIER AND CELLBIT ARE MARREID YEAH BUT THEY STILL CONSIDER JAIDEN PART OF THEIR FAMILY SHE IS IMPORTANT TO THEM AND THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO HER- ROIER AND JAIDEN WILL ALWAYS BE PARTNERS NO MATTER WHAT
theee relationship of all time: roier is husbands with cellbit and jaiden is his qpp, they are all so caring for each other and they have had their tension and their bad moments but there's a genuine want to communicate and grow better all the time :( <3
Cellbit and Roier are romantic married, Roier and Jaiden were platonic partners raising a child together, and all 3 are chaos together! But get along so so well! They support each other so much and care about each other so deeply and they are all Sillies
this is jaiden, and this is jaiden's partner/ the father of her child roier, and this is roier's cannibal husband cellbit
Eclipse Federation:
i dont like them. they ruined my life. Subz and Vitalasy had already partnered in previous seasons but this one, Vitalasy ended up leaving for a few months, leaving Subz alone, and Zam ended up getting close to him after immense trauma at the hands of his former teammates. Zam has done SO many wrongs, including to Subz himself and Subz STILL took him in and made him join Eclipse Federation after Zam died 14 times in a row and got banned then revived by the same player who's been killing him all this time. And it could've been perfect but no, Zam had betrayed his previous team due to them using dupes via exploits, and now Eclipse Federation ALSO has exploits! And he decided that yeah his morals were more important than being loved! And so he murders Vitalasy when he's at his most vulnerable point, lets everyone gaslight him into thinking Vitalasy is an irredeemable evil monster who will never change, even as Vitalasy SAID he was ready to change before the betrayal even happened, Eclipse threw out their whole revenge plans because of Zam's positive influence and he just broke everything. Subz couldn't be with Zam but also couldn't see himself at Vitalasy's side, leaving him alone. Vitalasy hated Zam and yet never killed him or hunted him down, despite Zam acting like he did. And when Vitalasy left, banning himself off from the server, Zam had some time alone to think and realized he fucked up SOOOO bad. And Subz revived Vitalasy and told him to kill him. And ban him. His last wish. His Deliverance. And to make up with Zam. And Vitalasy tried, and they kind of did make up over Subz's death, but then Zam was like "actually im going to kill everyone and destroy the server now. because i want subz back and also because i always do extremely drastic things when i don't need to because i have unchecked mental illnesses i refuse to get help for". And surprisingly when Subz came back he didn't like that! And they ended in tragedy! Eclipse is fucked up. It's a trio that's always about the absence of one person, it's a team that could only happen in one timeline and it was doomed from the very start. But the love was there. It made everything worse, truthfully. But it was there. And that matters. Also as a fun fact Zam himself on twitter has referred to eclipse as a throuple, which is not canon but that's pretty funny. he also stated on stream he didn't want to get therapy because it'd ruin his lifesteal character. and there was a saga where they would "marry" (challenge lost kinda shenanigans) and zam was the only one happy about it. he's not normal. there's something wrong with him. love that for him though sorry for the block of text. I really dislike them. They're my beloveds :3
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Do you have any headcanons as far as Philza and BBHs' relationship? I've enjoyed thinking about that because I think it's one of the few relationships on Philza's side that's actually a bit more complicated? But also Philza saying that BBH wouldn't lie is the funniest thing ever.
Or if no headcanons about Philza and BBH specifically what about Philza, Bad, and Cellbit as a trio in charge of the order because I really loved that
OOOH this is gonna be an interesting challenge because I don't watch a lot of Bad :0!
qPhil headcanons masterlist
Obligatory they're both thousands of years old mention. There's some things they can talk about and relate on that no one else on the island can. MAYBE Foolish, but Foolish tends to just focus on the present and vibe. Phil and Bad though, in the right conditions, they could and will have deep conversations about the past and their experiences.
On that note holy fucking shit these two would be terrifying teamed up together. If the Feds ever do something harmful or permanent to the eggs, god help them when these two decide they're armed enough and hatch a plan. They'll rain hell on the entire island and then some. And every other parent will be more than willing to join them. Do Not Piss Off The Immortal Murder Dads.
Phil could tell clearly that Bad is part demon. Finding out he was part reaper was a surprise. Honestly with how much of a lil trickster Bad is, Phil is surprised he isn't part Fae or something.
Phil takes one look at how Bad goes "no idea what you're talking about, nothing happened :D" about stuff like him Literally Dying and is like [uncanny Mr Incredible] "at least I'm not that bad." Phil just (very poorly) hides things and says he's fine. He doesn't straight up deny anything happened (and couldn't convincingly act like nothing is wrong the way Bad can if he tried)
Missa is a reaper. Bad is a reaper. Phil wants to see them talk about reaper things together. Or see them both in action. He himself can also carry small conversations about it since he's learned so much through osmosis :D
Actually that's kinda why Phil feared Bad so much during Purgatory. That was him in action. And he never wants to be on an opposing side of it again.
He doesn't resent Bad for Purgatory btw he just jokes like it sometimes. Same as with Tubbo (or anyone else for that matter), he blames the Watcher for trying to destroy their friendships.
Has straight up looked Bad in the eyes like "are you aware you are raising the most terrifying egg. Are you." He genuinely thinks if Dapper wanted to, he could kill Phil in his sleep. Every time he sees Dapper, he's learned something new and insane.
Tbh Phil sometimes envies how full of whimsy Bad is. He's seen infinitely more horrors than Phil for sure, yet he always ironically seems like a little ball of sunshine despite being a literal shadow lookin demon. What The Fuck is this man's secret to staying so silly.
Phil is endlessly fascinated by the extent to which Bad can come up with more and new protections for the eggs. He thinks of stuff not even remotely on Phil's radar. See, Phil's a safety expert as a survivalist, but most of his skills involve using what's around you and your wits, because survival is largely about relying only on yourself because you rarely have any other choice. Bad on the other hand will not hesitate to seek out new tech, other people, or tinker and experiment until he discovers new ways to use anything and everything he can get his hands on. Phil admires how intuitive he is.
Also Bad is really good at making bases and Phil enjoys seeing how balanced the aesthetics and practical parts are. Bad can make something look cozy and lavish as hell while also putting like a billion farms and gadgets into it.
I wonder how a conversation about possession would go. :) Surely Bad has some insight on it as a demon?
Something about how the two of them have arguably the most horrific egg death nightmares. I don't know where to go with this but goddamn would Crows and Ghosties be feasting.
Actually wait shut up, I just realized something kinda cute. In the same way Phil can talk to birds (particularly crows ofc), Bad can talk to the dead/undead (particularly ghosts). Imagine the sillies that could come out of that. It's said that animals can see the dead, what if Phil's murder conspires with the ghosts that follow Bad around ;D
The moment Phil would use his wings if they were healed, Bad would clock that he's the Angel of Death. I'm not sure he saw Phil flying during Purgatory, but if he did, he knows. And that would lead to many interesting conversations. :)
#qsmp#qsmp philza#philza#q!philza#qsmp bbh#qsmp badboyhalo#badboyhalo#q!bbh#q!badboyhalo#qphil headcanons
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I love how Foolish always puts his daughter’s feelings first, because his first response to hearing that Leo doesn’t trust or necessarily even like the new eggs was, “Should we kill Empanada, then?”
Up to this point, most of the new parents have constantly been reassuring their kids that everyone loves them, that the older eggs might just be shy, that their other parents will show up and immediately love them. (Of course, the exception is Roier, who doesn’t trust Pepito at all but who has found himself caring about Pepito anyway.)
Meanwhile, several of the older members are telling their eggs to go be friends with the new eggs, don’t be mean, etc.
This is, in fact, a mistake that is going to bite everybody in the ass. Setting the new eggs up with expectations that everybody loves them is setting them up to be crushed when an egg like Tallulah or Leo doesn’t want to be friends. There’s a solid chance that Sunny or Pepito or Empanada will be destroyed when their absentee parents (Quackity, Mariana, Charlie, and Jaiden in particular) show up and may not want to be their parents.
What a lot of people don’t understand about the new and old eggs is that the new eggs aren’t like. Family to the old eggs. All the eggs up through Pomme came from the adoption center and supposedly had the same dragon mother. These new eggs? Nobody knows where they came from, they have clashing stories about their lives before Quesadilla Island. They’re complete strangers.
Sure, Pepito and Richarlyson are siblings, but that’s because they share a common parent in both Roier and Quackity (and Cellbit by technicality.) Everybody else? These new eggs are total unknowns that they really just don’t know they can trust.
Most of the eggs have been pretty chill with the new ones, but others like Leo and Tallulah. Aren’t. And, realistically, why should they be? They don’t know these other kids. And their respective parents trying to get them to be friendly with each other is just getting the og eggs hurt by having their feelings be ignored by their parents and it’s getting the new eggs hurt by forcing them to personally experience someone being forced to deal with them and clearly not being happy about it.
That’s why I appreciate Foolish and Phil’s parenting. They’ve decided that their child’s feelings come first, so it’s fine if Tallulah and Leo don’t want to hang out with these new kids on the block.
I have literally nothing about the new parents who are doing their best, but you can see a difference in parenting between Roier, who has been up there with Bad as the eggs’ primary babysitter since day one of the og egg event, and the newer players. Roier, for all his many MANY faults, isn’t setting Pepito up for failure by telling Pepito that his other parents are going to show up and adore him. For better or for worse, he’s being realistic and setting Pepito’s expectations low, and he’s still giving Pepito a family in himself and Richarlyson despite his own emotions and problems. He lets Pepito make friends, like Dapper and now Richarlyson, on his own without pushing him (too much, but it was mostly Cellbit’s Ghost telling Richarlyson to get along with Pepito), and now Pepito is somehow the only newer egg to not feel really super fucking depressed over the other eggs not liking him. (He’s still super upset about his other parents, but he’s more or less accepted this life while saying he’ll wait for his other parents to arrive, and we all know that at least Rivers and Cellbit will like him.)
TLDR; Setting these kids up with the expectation that everybody loves/will love them is setting them up for failure and depression, and making the older eggs socialize with them will Not help matters any. Foolish and Roier and Phil’s parenting choices regarding this are probably actually helping make the kids happier in the long run because not everybody needs to be friends, and that’s fine
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Favorite Qsmp Moments By Yours Truly
Reblogged this post about my Top 3, and felt compelled to put down all the moments I remember the most fondly (which is a lot so good luck getting through the whole post, if you make it to end you get the eggs back on the server)
#Lore
Pretty much the entire Happy Pills arc (Philza seeing the fake room and fake Richas, the lead up to Forever pulling a gun on him, Cellbit and Forever's argument, Forever hysterically sobbing while talking to fake Richas, the reveal that Forever destroyed the entire goddamn server and forced the Fed to do a server rollback, the Curing, the calm afterwards)
Pac being walked back to Chume Labs by Cellbit after being cured, them having their heart to heart, Cellbit recognizing his struggle and telling him he saved himself and Forever, that he was a hero, and Pac quietly recovering in his first moment of peace since it all started.
The hospital visits when Forever was comatose. Philza, Bad and Cellbit's visits are the ones people talk about the most for the serious parts but Fit also visited and opened up a surprising amount, I feel like it said a lot about his character that he opened up to a man in a coma, desperate to get his words off his chest, but not trusting enough to tell someone who would remember them the next day
Bad getting really pissed at the Federation for the first time and lassoing Cucurucho to "walk him like a dog" (you could feel the anti-Federation sentiment really solidify in this moment, before it was more so Cellbit's personal vendetta but this became one of the moments that made it a server-wide stance)
Vegetta and later Foolish fighting off the Codes who were trying to kill Leo (the absolute stress from Foolish's fight when he kept shouting at Leo to warp out and her not doing it was unreal)
Tallulah's first death, how hard Fit, Forever and their eggs fought to protect her, and how absolutely furious Philza was
Pretty much every Forever and Cucurucho interaction post-Happy Pills; their dynamic was never the same after that, and you can see how tense Forever is every time he's alone with Cucurucho
Charlie's rampage after Flippa died the first time (pre-trial); he's too good at voice acting cause holy shit
Maxo's "King of the Codes" dream after his leg got infected
Quackity coming back after El Quackity vanished and being himself yet completely different (not remembering anyone, only speaking spanish, not being able to read or write), and Maxo and Roier sticking by him trying to press for answers while Q just wanted to build his house
Etoiles getting hyped for his big final fight with the Codes, and the excitement immediately being sapped out of him when he sees Pomme in the cage
The first time we saw a Federation worker other than Cucurucho (Cellbit was the first to see one I believe)
Tubbo's "Fire won't break it. TNT won't break it. I will." speech after Quackity abducted Fred
Funnies/Generally Cool
The Gordinho Gostozinho highlights (from funny ones like the Foolish and Austin kiss to lore like the ambush on El Quackity)
Foolish roleplaying being very fucking drunk in the club after the spiderbit wedding (him being like "you want a shot? I'll give you a fucking shot" and pulling out a gun and shooting Charlie was so goddamn funny, second time he shot Charlie that night); he was wildly good at roleplaying a drunk person and after the Brazil meetup where we learned he's apparently a tank when it comes to drinking I'm starting to see where it comes from lmao
Maxo waking up in Pierre's bed with his moan remix playing after he died during a serious lore moment, and his face of absolute defeat and bitter resentment actually had me struggling to breath from how hard I was laughing (also Baghera hysterically laughing at the clip and showing it to people)
Polis singing My Heart Will Go On with his very crunchy microphone to Cellbit (and Cell losing his shit)
Vegetta starting to suck off Foolish in the middle of a theater full of people the first fucking day the French were on the server, and the ensuing shouting from everyone angrily trying to stop them
SASUKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Debate moderator Fit during the election arc (+him reading out Gegg's speeches, as well as just Gegg's speeches in general)
Lawyer Jaiden/Bad/Quackity/Roier being genuinely really good at acting as lawyers (and lawyer Fit offering to bribe and then murder the judge if the trial didn't go their way. Also the trial derailing into exposing Foolish for his love life with Mariana for some reason)
All the victims of Eh Vegetta
The emotional rollercoaster that is the Frubbo arc, Tubbo's thirst tweets included
Felps
The first time the admins did a roundup of everyone's early-game builds and they kept showing Mariana's base with the negative buzzer sound, each time of which made Mariana more angry until he was just swearing in spanish
Mousey's first experiences in Lucky Ducks, and the pinpointable moments that led to her totally not gambling addiction
Abueloier (specifically his first interaction with Quackity cause of how good Roier is at making Q laugh with horny humor + the moment when Abueloier said he had been fighting with Roier for 20 years and Cellbit asked "how did you fight with a baby" and them cracking up cause Roier hadn't thought that part through)
Baghera being consistently bad at predicting mines for the sake of avoiding them
Fit killing Tubbo with the potato gun after he started strip teasing on Pac
That clip of Missa jumping off the wall to hit a bucket clutch, miscalculating and hitting part of the wall, falling further, hitting part of the wall again and getting downed on it, falling while downed, and finally hitting the ground where he was unable to clutch because he was downed, and immediately dying
Every moment where Tina is unhinged (her raging at Bad when he's being a nuisance, her being down horrendous for Bagi, etc)
Charlie talking about his dead daughter and Foolish interrupting him to ask if he lactates (Charlie doesn't usually hesitate with responses cause of how quick witted he is but he had to fully pause after that one)
Spreen teaching Fit how to do a line being his most meaningful contribution to their marriage
Felps Square, and the rise of Squole (Felps Square x Tubhole)
The Jaidens (and how hilariously shit they were at being stealthy)
The French Beast aka Etoiles various adventures destroying the Codes and typing his win streak in chat after every fight
Philza getting to really know Tazercraft during Tallulah's birthday party (seriously watch the clips Mike is fucking hilarious)
The post-lore hangout (might've been the election dinner?) where Foolish, Mouse, Tina, and Felps went dungeoning together; I got to learn more about Mouse, and the chemistry the Foolish/Tina/Mouse group had with Felps was really fun
Rivers being awkward as fuck around other people that aren't Roier
The entire trial of Juanaflippa, including Charlie and Mariana being in holding and breaking out
Antoine's "because he's a fucking troll" about Pierre
The moment when Kameto logged on
Forever calling Bad "sir" (if yk yk)
Fit complaining to Philza and co. about Spreen being a "fucking asshole husband who went out for cigarettes"
Vegetta and Roier debuting as strippers and Quackity's reaction (+Vegetta getting stuck in the wall)
Flippa's turtle falling off a ledge and killing itself right in front of Charlie and Mariana's sex roleplay
Mine Roulette with Antoine, Bad, Baghera, Pomme and Foolish (that evening was such a vibe and it was my first time watching from Antoine's stream)
Etoiles saying that Pierre is married and has kids but all he can think about is being depressed over the admins nerfing Create after Tubbo kept breaking things
Ramón being mad at Fit for keeping secrets from him and saying "talk to my shell" before carrying on with his redstone
The pinpointable moments where Tallulah gets more sassy and confident until she's unironically putting "serve cunt" in her signs
Bad trying to get info from Cucurucho, being told by Dapper and Ramón not to flirt, and immediately slipping up with the "you come here often"
Missa singing When You're Gone during his dog funeral (I know this sounds sad but it was really fucking funny, Missa's language vocabulary is 70% incompressible whimpering)
Fit losing his absolute mind after Cucuruchito started heavy flirting with him out of no where
Vegetta's mines and all the carnage they have caused (you could make a whole comp from just the French's arrival)
That era where Tazercraft where abusing create mod and breaking Federation shit near on the daily (the poor admins lmao)
Forever and Bad exploring the Federation construction site and Forever making Cucurucho drink his pee before being shot at for making Cucurucho drink his pee
And of course, all of the lovely Qsmp songs/memes (Vivo Turbo ad, Pac e Mike wow wow, Eh Vegetta, Maxo moan remix, Pomme Pomme Dapper Dapper remix, Quackity paga el servidor, honorary French member Bebou, meus pais/minhas mães, the inactive members being referenced to this day, Amiga...)
#phew what a masterpost#feel free to share and thanks for reading!#mcyt#qsmp#philza#forever player#cellbit#pactw#badboyhalo#fitmc#vegetta777#foolish gamers#slimecicle#agentemaxo#quackity#roier#etoiles#tubbo#aypierre#baghera jones#polispol#jaiden animations#elmariana#tazercraft#riversgg#felps#ironmouse#tinakitten#missasinfonia#antoine daniel
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thinks about "you would kill me?" "i would kill for you. never you," and cellbit's love language being destruction.
thinks about how cellbit will go to any length of self destruction for those he loves. thinks about him not sleeping for months, drinking coffee obsessively, until he's eventually too tired even to boil it and thus begins resorting to eating coffee beans, so he could keep himself sane. thinks about cellbit running from a bear with a chainsaw, and being forced to talk to him as a subordinate for months afterwards. thinks about him pushing people away so theyd let him destroy himself for the federation, unsure if the information he gathered would even be worth it. thinks about the slow death of the self, how much time one can spend running before they collapse from exhaustion, the love in demanding your family eat your corpse.
and then... thinks about outward destruction. thinks about broken trust in the form of an unusable xp machine. thinks about broken hearts in the form of custody battles. corpses with ciphers scribbled in blood left for long lost sisters who don't get it, not yet. badboyhalo describes cellbit pulling a knife on someone when he jokingly asks him to as less personal, and more like a dog being told to play fetch. thinks about him plunging into ravines and caves to kill bad's enemies as bad followed behind, being the first of them to die for bad's victory. thinks about "keep your hands clean." cats bring their owners dead birds out of concern for them being fed, cellbit brings enigmas and bodies because it's all the damage he can do. in a life shaped by violence, how else do you show loyalty than through a willingness to hunt for those who arent strong enough, to kill unthinkingly when they ask? it terrifies his family, but it's all he has left to give.
there are so many parallels between felps' kidnapping arc and the current one. the difference is in how many people are also at their breaking point and couldn't afford to see their rock crumbling. cellbit's mind was the bright light for every damn person on the server who had questions, and at this point, that number is all of them. and no matter where he looks, how much he wants to save them, there are no answers. there is no satisfying conclusion. if only he could go home at night and sleep soundly without thinking about the evidence of his failure to protect anyone resting beneath his feet. there are only more dead ends, more wheels, more humiliation, more degradation of his sanity as he's unable to sleep. his family has been picked off and the remainder have picked apart his corpse to scraps of marrow and flesh and are still starving, too terrified to hunt for themselves. what a blessing that cellbit's hands are already bloodied, and he's angry enough to tear apart the wardens for them to feast.
#habeas speaks#qsmp cellbit#cellbit#i have so many thoughts on autocannibalism and love#i have even more thoughts on death as a love language#evidently there are people who dont share the same Romanticism but it's what he's good at and all he can do#and at the very least they will keep their hands clean for now#the see you on the battlefield kind of shows how frustrated he is in feeling like his anger is solitary#after months of hunting you might as well start feeding him back you cant rely on his anger to burn incessantly#sorry. im abnormal about him
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Okay, so if you couldn't guess from my Missing Halo fic, I want Bad to be kidnapped and disappear too. 1. He might ACTUALLY SLEEP, 2. People are going to be without the babysitter and over paranoid guy who stocks their kids up with totems and useful items and 3. Dapper would be upset over it and either refuse to go anywhere or fight everything that breathes too close to him.
But I don't want it to be a kidnapping in the same way as Felps and Cellbit. I want it to be like he's taken a put into a room that could be an apartment. They go "We're babysitting you now. You have a set sleeping and eating schedule and we will make sure you follow it. You will be released in a week" then they just- leave. No tricks. Nothing to hurt him or try convince him to join them. Just making sure he won't kill himself through exhaustion.
They also get to speed up their plans a bit. Now the most prepared guy on the server isn't around. What a brilliant opportunity to attack and do as much damage as possible! People wouldn't know where he is so he's still technically missing. The only egg they don't attack is Dapper because while he might be alone now, they know the second Bad sees Dapper was knocked down he will break down the entire facility to get to his son. (Promising to leave Dapper alone was the only way they could get him to agree to not destroy everything in a 500 block radius)
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saw that you had some discussion about the pepito retconning and otipep. i was very surprised to see people hating it so much, and am disappointed by it being retconned.
i read the situation as pepito throwing a tantrum, because pepito is a small child and small children do stuff like that all the time. not pepito not actually wanting roier as a parent. little kids are dramatic all the time.
otipep does not exist and never existed, regardless of retcon. it was the explanation roier made to explain to himself why his child was having a tantrum because he wasn’t in a place where he could deal with it. it’s not reality, they’re not separate characters. it’s just pepito.
You see, the thing about Otipep is that he directly insulted the streamer, and he refuse to "Yes-And" with him, and that's the number one thing in any kind of improv storytelling. They were a different admin from what the audience and Roier were used to, and that's fine, we're used to it. What isn't fine is that Otipep refused to work with Roier and insulted him and ignored him and walked away every time ccRoier tried explaining what he and Admin 07's Pepito had been doing for the past few days. Call it a tantrum, that's fine, but it's also a dick move when it's your literal job to work with the streamers to tell a story. Look at the way other eggs have thrown tantrums, and then look at Otipep.
You'll be hard-pressed to find a Hispanic fan that actually liked the Otipep Day and that's because Otipep came in and immediately and actively destroyed days' worth of storytelling and wrecked a cc's attempts at a story to the point of the cc giving up on the rp for the day and going to build and even getting off the server a little earlier than planned because like? Okay? Sure, destroy yet another one of Roier's planned Lores, it's not like people have been doing that since the first week of the server.
The only people that I've seen defending Otipep at all have been English-Onlies who saw Otipep's English sign and bed basically screaming to the world "ROIER IS A TERRIBLE FATHER AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO ADOPT ME! PREFERABLY SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I TYPED THIS SIGN IN! NOT THE LANGUAGE ANY OF MY PARENTS SPEAK!"
And what happened after people saw that sign? Well, English fans all went "Well this obviously proves that Roier is a terrible father and that Bad should adopt Pepito instead. He's been a bad father all along, and he's just as evil and insane as Cellbit is." This, in turn, started the process of the Hispanic fandom yet again losing a character on the server; at this point, it's legit just Roier and Quackity because Pol isn't allowed online for Lore Reasons and qMaxo is dead and everybody else just doesn't log on as often. Do you see the problem here?
Roier describing Otipep to Richarlyson legit made Richas' admin go "WHAT????" because that was Not professional behavior on Otipep's Admin's part. And that's the biggest thing here, I think: the lack of professionalism at play when you're hired to play your part and work with people "in the spotlight" (aka the streamers) but you aren't cooperating at all. It's like going to work at a grocery store and being told you're working the registers that day and going "No, actually, I'm going to stock shelves". You don't do that at work, and you definitely don't do that live on stream in front of 10k+ viewers.
I work in childcare. I know a tantrum when I see it, and Otipep could be seen as one. But you have to keep in mind the meta aspects here and think, wow, this is fucked up from a meta perspective! Going out of your way to ruin the fun of someone else just because you want the story to go a certain way? Not to be tolerated in any kind of collaborative setting. My dnd groups have kicked people from the table for less.
It got to the point where Quackity himself has to say it isn't canon, and, well. I think we can see that there was a genuine problem.
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if it means anything those people are pretty obviously wrong, i mean i'm pretty sure breaking dawn is one of the most popular ao3 spiderbit fics so i think alot more people agree that you write very well!!!
It’s not even that lol, it’s that they’re calling me a hypocrite for getting pissy about Dad Phil headcanons while including my own in my fics
But the ones I do include don’t change anything? Like, absolutely nobody noticed that most of my headcanons were included in my fics until I told you guys over here
But they really got pissy about the ‘not showering’ jokes that are in a total of… three fics? And it isn’t canon in any of them? Like, in the vampire fic, it’s implied by Cellbit, if not clearly stated, that he’s only going with Roier’s showering joke to remain undercover and that he does bathe as regularly as he would for the time period when he isn’t actively trying to kill a prince. Or the merpepito au where it’s, again, historically accurate, but also explicitly stated by me word-of-god to be fake and just Roier trying to keep himself from staying in love with a guy he’d met once.
And then there’s Breaking Dawn where they aren’t even jokes at all, it’s plot-relevant and it’s meant to display his dissolving mental health as he’s obsessing over something essentially futile, and, as we’re going to see in upcoming chapters, as his mental health improves slowly thanks to his friends hanging out with him- not just Roier, but also Bad and Max and Baghera and even Pac and Mike- he’ll start taking care of himself again. It’s showing, not telling, how bad off he really is during what was one of the lowest points of his life in canon: the time Felps was kidnapped and Cellbit started his obsession with getting revenge against Cucurucho and destroying the Federation. In the fic, he even says that he tries to shower as often as he can when he’s living in his apartment or when he’s going to be around other people, but he doesn’t always have water there, and he’s currently living out of his office. While getting no human contact, because what he’s doing is bad for his health! He’s just an extremely unreliable narrator!
And, really, is it even a headcanon if the characters themselves have this conversation multiple times in canon? There’s the long running gag of Cellbit being like “Of course I haven’t showered yet, it isn’t Saturday” despite being the only character on the server with a bathroom and shower built into his house.
Maybe I’m feeding the trolls, but I’m PISSED. You can insult me, you can insult my family, but my writing is one of the few things in my life that matters to me. Don’t insult that.
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OKAY!!!
Forever as a character is someone that has changed a lot from his early days to now, not only from his position on the island but the way he acts too. While he was a lot more carefree at the beginning with the desert destruction of that one desert that now is the copacabana sea at the favelas being his only focus, it was because of the desert that he started to bond with Richas, and for a long time Forever was the parent who was the closest with Richas and his focus became his protection. cc!Forever has stated before that his character focus is his son, Richas being alive and all that. And he was there for Talullah's death, bu he wasn't strong enough to protect her |(at least in his eyes) and then right after came the Bobby event, Bobby who was so close to his son and he has to watch Richas sleeping the whole day out of grief. It was then that he decided to build the ninho.
I think the first big change you can see on his character is during the Regret arc, where the person he trusted the most (Cellbit) betrayed him and wanted to take Richas from him, which was a big hit to his mental health, and the fact that he got trust into the position of bring the leader of the order didn't help, the pressure was heavy on him, you could see how much it broke him when he hit Leo, a thing he was not planning on doing and it haunts him to this day, even if Leo and her dads have forgiven him, he still doesn't like to be remembered about that.
Than the elections started and I think this is where everything went wrong for him, the debates we all know how they were. And Forever wanted to WIN!! Which he eventually did and became president but it's a position that although he does well at, it's destroying him. Since he is on a position of power, he doesn't believe he should show too much emotions so he keeps just burying his feelings down and trying to please people, yeah he is feeling tired of the constant arguments with Bad but what can he do? Nothing makes him happy, and now he misses Richas and barely see him because Richas is usually with one of his other dads or even uncles leaving Forever alone.
Than the eggs were gone, and he as the president was expected to deal with everything, to talk with cucurucho and get answers but everytime someone asked him about the eggs all he could say i "I don't know, I'm sorry" he spent hours by Richas bed, trying to not be conceived by the murder thoughts his head was being filled with, all while a clock ticked in the background. Then he talked with cucurucho after hours waiting in his office, in silence.
And then the happy pills arc, we all know how it went so I think it's more important to focus on the after, on the fact that Forever to this day has not talked in depht about what he felt after it since he launched himself straight up into taking care of others, in this case Bad and Baghera. There is a conversation he has with Baghera where she asks how he is, and he goes like "not good but, i'm not the focus right now, I already had my time to go insane..." (paraphrased cause it's been a bit since I saw that scene) so that's the time where Forever gets even worse abou holding his feeling in, he never talks about them now.
And then Hell came, at the moment where he was at his worse, desperate to any signs of the eggs and a way to make his friends happy again. Now we don't know this whole month went but we can assume it was not good at all. He came back all hurt and with a very big burn mark and that dark matter on his arm, also he believes that he and Walter Bob might be slowly dying from the dark matter... So do with that part what you will.
So in general the way I would summarizes him as a character is someone who tries too much but because of his position rarely gets any kind of support in return. He bottles up his emotions a lot, and because of the whole happy pills arc he s afraid of letting them explode again.
I think that's all, in terms of backstory my guy as nothing <3 (okay not exactly, but it's very vague with him saying that stonkscraft 2 and forever mapa are canon)
fuck, I really need to learn more abt q!forever as a character
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okay get ready for a messy recap with possible spelling mistakes i dont really remember what happened last week except for like.. the weekend??
BUT Phil stayed up until like 3am because he infodumped on cellbit about like eggs gone and all the images and then when he went to eepy times he found coords in his basement from chayanne to pumpkin patch and all that i think i told you about what happened to the eggies?
BAGI ASKED TINA ON A DATE AND SHE SAID YES THEYRE SUPPOSED TO GO ON ONE TODAY BUT NOT SURE IF THATS HAPPENING
Forever got dragged to freezer prison by feds and then cucurucho told him to go into the NETHER and when he got there he met walter bob (fed worker important to pac e mike) who was acting a bit odd and then he got killed by a nether mob and got a cutscene with black background and red text saying YOU SHOULDNT BE HERE MR PRESIDENT
okay weekend stuff
yeah i did OKAY but i didnt tell you about the fact that they found leos picture!!! yippee!!
fred (tubbos boyfriend friend penpal situationship) got kidnapped by quackity and quackity then went to talk to tubbo because he believes tubbo is some kind of fed memeber traitor thing and told tubbo he will never see fred again! which led to tubbos stream today where he went kinda uhhh not insane thats not a good word but a bit unhinged? he said he was gonna destroy everything quackity has ever touched and placed by himself not using any tnt or fire or anything like that and said he still absolutely hates the federation guts but he also thinks quackity is doing something just as bad as them and he WILL find fred
also saturday cellbit got dragged around by a guard that he (accidentally) killed and got a feather thing invivtation that he took hours to solve which was an invitation to a presentation
now sunday cellbit got a little more fucked up because he found bagis is his SISTER and that freaked him out and he was like "no. this cant be true. youve never been there for me." something like that it was like midnight and he also told foolish and bad before he managed to talk to bagi (his twin) and he kinda relapsed into his hunger games days and he talked to bad after talking to bagi and dudes fucked up then he talked to this fed guy and given a mission and it was like "only bring a super small group of people" because he was told to infiltrate this super important meeting which leads to today where he got ANOTHER book that said "fuck that, bring everyone!" (TERRIBLE idea) and then they got there and cucurucho told the federation workers (and the islanders) that they have no clue where the eggs are, and they also talked about how they sent forever into the nether and now hes MISSING, now theyre planning on sending someone else into the nether where they believe they will find clues on the eggs
now, the big announcement was about MINIMES!!! which is like a worse version of the eggs and theyre like actually ai that they can command and train and then make more and they were supposed to be for the workers, but then the islanders stole them and the duck appeared a bit glitchy and weird and was like "woah guys youre welcome for the minimes!! hope you like them take care and dont kill them like last time...." insert montage of the eggs dying or being near death which is sooo fucked up???
i think thats the like.. most important stuff???? at least the stuff i watched and kept track of
OH YEAH AYPIERRE WAS PUT IN PRISON AFTER YELLING AT CUCURHCUO ABOUT LIKE.. BEING ON THE ISLAND BEFORE
@soullesserror my friend I am gonna need a full debrief on the last like week on the Qsmp. Because I’ve been busy and everyone (Charlie and Wilbur) went live and I sadly didn’t have the attention span to watch anything today. But only if you willing. If you willing I would love to know
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