#and then also in bbs when pran asks ''do you want to be my friend?''
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airenyah · 2 years ago
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i'm only 4 minutes into ep 11 of 10 years ticket and i'm already cring over ohm pawat's acting
HE'S DOING THE SAME THING AS HE DID IN EP 5 ROOFTOP SCENE (MY BELOVED <3) AND YET IT'S SO DIFFERENT
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telomeke-bbs · 1 year ago
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Okay, not (quite) anonymous any more, but still not (that) active yet. With all the recent discussion of episode 5 and the rooftop scene, I think I've yet to see analysis of 5 [4/4] 9:06-9:13, from when Pran says "We're not even friends" to when Pat says "That's right." Of course, we didn't know it on first viewing, but based on what we learn later from episode 12 [4/4] 12:58-13:54, what Pran says must have hurt. And we see it in Pat/Ohm's reaction. I'd love to see that deconstructed.
Hi @pandasmagorica! 😍 Sorry this reply is so late; I was struggling with my post about OS2 x BBS x ATOTS and also some work deadlines.
With regard to the Ep.5 rooftop, I must agree with you that Pran's comment "We're not even friends" must really have stung for Pat.
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By this point he'd been totally swept away in the rush of his new-found feelings that he also knew were returned. But Pran, contrarian as ever, was vehemently denying the existence of closeness to his face. And to deny that they were even friends when they had actually been so close and affectionate behind the scenes before must have felt like a gut punch to Pat, who was laying himself so bare and vulnerable here.
For almost all of Ep.5 we watched as Pat sank deeper and deeper into the disorientating realization that he had somehow fallen in love with his supposed rival. And he must have been pushed so close to the brink of despair by the swell of these anguished, bottled emotions that he couldn't wait even a second longer than necessary to confess it all to Pran (which of course is quite in character for our open-hearted boy).
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(above) Bad Buddy Ep.5 [4/4] 1.18
This was why he waited up for Pran down at the base of their block, drunk as he was, so as not to miss his return. And when he was prevented – by Wai's presence – from expressing all that was churning within him, of course he couldn't contain that pressure and it all erupted into a brawl.
But Pat on the rooftop is now showered and clearheaded, and once again focused on his task of confessing all to Pran.
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(above) Bad Buddy Ep.5 [4/4] 7.45
Unfortunately, as before, Pran is unaware of Pat's true feelings and is expecting their usual jostling, competitive dynamic to be the framework of their exchange. And so Pran continues to toss barbs at Pat, thinking he'll find some way to lob them back as he'd always done before.
And in a sense he does, but Pat's energy is different now. For him it's not a game anymore and the usual teasing impishness that we saw so much of in preceding episodes (and at the start of Ep.5 too) is gone.
This scene is also a callback to (and a parallel with) Ep.3 [4/4] 6.09 – in the corridor there, Pran had been so moved by Pat's generosity and help with the bus‑stop that he decided to dial back on the rivalry and was wanting to take things to the next level.
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(above) Bad Buddy Ep.3 [4/4] 6.51
This was the motivation behind his seemingly off-the-cuff "Have you eaten?" at Ep.3 [4/4] 7.20 – he was wanting to interact with Pat socially instead of as a competitor (see this write-up linked here for more analysis). Before this, the only other time we'd seen them at a meal together was at the wonton noodle stall (Ep.3 [1I4] 6.20), and it only happened by accident (and Pat soon turned it into a chopstick battle anyway) so I like to think Pran was wanting a romantic do-over in Ep.3 [4/4] by asking Pat out for a meal.
But there in the corridor Pat only seemed to want more of their usual relationship dynamic (more gameplay), and he signaled this with another of his bait-and-switch moves, lulling Pran with the return of his guitar and then saying "I just like to see your face
 when you lose."
Here on the rooftop the tables have turned. In the corridor of Ep.3 [4/4] Pran was left resigned with Pat's unchanging focus on their rivalry (and yet maybe still relieved that they could continue their relationship, even if it was based on competition). But on the rooftop it's now Pat – all ready to bare his soul – who is thwarted and exasperated by Pran instead.
During the fight scene we already saw Pat getting annoyed at Pran (who was operating in their default mode of pretending to be bitter enemies). And he retaliated with a refusal to play along, turning snarky when Pran said "Why? Is it so hard to accept defeat?" at Ep.5 [4/4] 2.41. Pat's snide response "Defeated by that lousy song. Why would I feel anything?" landed like a slap too (though Pran couldn't have felt it, unlike Pat and us viewers who knew the truth behind his sarcasm). Because of course Pat had his heart torn to shreds when he finally understood that the song Just Friend? was really about Pran's unrequited love for him, and was now speaking to his feelings for Pran in return.
So on the rooftop Pat – perhaps annoyed at having to delay the confessing of his own truths – calls out the double-sidedness of Pran's comment and laces his response with more sarcasm and layers of unspoken meaning. His skewed, sardonic smile when he says "That's right" is a mix of sadness and derision, a colloid of contrasts ironically just like the relationship that they've always known – a forced mix of enmity and friendship, a combination of two opposites that will never truly meld.
If we're being generous, it's possible to read that Pran intended his "We're not even friends" to mean something like they're not allowed to be friends in the fullest sense of the word, in front of society and the world at large, even though they were always friends behind the scenes. But what Pat does is to take the literal meaning of this and flip it on its head.
They're both aware that their illicit friendship exists, but it's a friendship that dare not speak its name because of outside disapprobation. Pat's answer in the affirmative also snorts cynically, not just at Pran's surface denial, but also at their pitiless circumstances that don't allow them ever to be seen in front of others as anything besides bitter rivals.
And this is why he goes on to list why others might think they're not friends – in spite of the fact that (for all intents and purposes, except for how their relationship is presented to the world) – they actually are:
"How can we be friends when our parents despise one another?"
"How can we be friends if we live next door to each other yet can't even talk?"
"How can we be friends if we have to compete against one another in everything?"
But just like his sarcastic "That's right" and the cynicism of his mirthless smile, his words here are rhetorical, and are meant to highlight the opposite of what they seem to be saying – because his list is only made up of obstacles to friendship, but not reasons for enmity.
Their parents' mutual hostility, the ban on communicating with the boy next door, the enforced competition – these were constraints imposed on their friendship, but in themselves are no foundation or justification for any kind of animosity between them. And early on, little Pat and Pran found ways to get around the barriers and become firm friends in all but name, because there was never any justifiable reason for them not to be so.
Pat is calling Pran out here; he's telling Pran that he's just repeating what they'd been told since childhood, but the two of them, despite having drifted apart after Pran was sent away – they know better. And he's also calling for an end to the verbal gameplaying, and for them to face their truths.
Because after each rhetorical question is the silent, unspoken answer that BOTH know to be true:
"How can we be friends when our parents despise one another?" "But we ARE friends
"
"How can we be friends if we live next door to each other yet can't even talk?" "But we found a way around it
"
"How can we be friends if we have to compete against one another in everything?" "The competition was never a barrier to us ACTUALLY becoming friends
"
He's using rhetoric and sarcasm to illustrate that they weren't allowed to be friends and they've been conditioned not to call themselves that – but it doesn't change the truth about their friendship.
And I think Pran hears him loud and clear – despite what the world's been telling them all their lives, they are close and they have been friends, which is why there's a discernible softening on Pran's part.
I think Ohm did a fantastic job in Ep.5, heaving onto his shoulders the weighty stone that was also BBS's glowing heart, when it was Nanon doing all the heavy emotional lifting in the first four episodes. You can see what Pat is going through – but just in case you want further insight regarding his inner turmoil, BBS actually lets us in on a little more info.
Pat's audition as Riam in Ep.7 [4/4] 5.26 was also a play-by-play repetition of the Ep.5 rooftop scene, but Pat/Riam verbalizes his feelings a bit more directly, and adds further dimension to our understanding of Pat's motivations while on the rooftop.
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(above) Bad Buddy Ep.7 [4/4] 5.26
Using Riam's voice, what he says in Ep.7 [4/4] cuts out all of his previous rhetoric, and instead speaks plainly of his weariness with the gameplay and of his willingness to give it up (repudiating his playful corridor self of Ep.3 [4/4]):
"I’m tired. Tired of pretending to hate you while your face has taken over my heart. Aren’t you tired too?... Let’s stop it. I don’t want to play this game anymore. I don’t want to lie to people anymore. You asked if I still wanted us to be friends. What if my answer is no? What do you say?"
Part of why Ep.5's rooftop scene hits so hard is not just because Pran walking away embodies the loss of a romantic story that could have been. It hits also because we see just how far battle-weary Pat has come, on a rollercoaster journey of grappling with emotions (over the course of just one episode) that Pran had taken years to integrate as part of his reality.
The loss is all the greater because we see how much it cost them to get to this point. For Pat it meant dismantling his worldview and lifelong sense of self as Pran's rival in every respect – and yet he was willing to cast it all aside, after recognizing the truth underlying his closeness to Pran.
As BBS is also an allegory for the lives of queer people, all the rumination around "friends who are not friends" here (also calling out to Pat's favorite among all of Pran's personally-scented tees) parallels how closeted LGBTQ+ relationships are often not allowed to speak their truth to wider society.
But while the allegorical message may speak to us intellectually, I think it gets drowned out by the molten magma at the searing core of this scene on the rooftop, which communicates directly – deafeningly – with the heart. All intellectual preoccupations aside, it's also just two young, would-be lovers stumbling through a conversation where so much is unknown and so much has yet to be said, trying to find the truth of their relationship in the maze of all the semantics – which is what many of us who have had to navigate young love must have experienced at some point.
Some of us get beyond the maze and fall into the truth behind the words straightaway. Others, like Pat and Pran, will have to take a little longer to get there. But as they ultimately demonstrate, it's always worth the journey when your erstwhile "friend" (or "enemy") turns out to be your soulmate instead. 💖
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watchingblsnowandforever · 1 year ago
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No. No. NO. This can not be happening. The one thing I was most afraid of. The dreaded cliffhanger (quite literal in this case). I'm going through the 5 stages of BL grief help. And I've already reached de Nile T~T
When i first realized that Bad Buddy and ATOTS would air back-to-back, I had an inkling that something like this might happen. Because it's P'Aof. But now my brain is this close to 'killstabrip rinse and repeat' mode.
I was thinking of not watching today's episode because of the exam tomorrow, and for once, i regret not listening to the logical part of my brain.
Anyways what's done is done.
Let's move on.
I loved today's episode, and *maybe* Our Skyy has made me like ATOTS more than i originally did so bonus.
I have a lot of favourite scenes from today.
The waterfall scene where they play in the water. It's a throwback to the beach scenes from BBS. I like the similarities; in the beach, they'd escaped from their friends and family and really enjoyed themselves with each other for the first time, when their love was just starting to bloom. Here, they are already very much in love and in a secure relationship, but it's also away from their friends, a small haven just for themselves. They still enjoy each other's company and playing with each other. The ost song plays in the background, but the lines that are highlighted are "I hope you are not bored; Looking at this same old face." which just emphasizes the point that their love is still going strong.
The sleeping together scene – after the mosquito net kiss (still smiling from that) – loved the short tickling moment because it reminded me so much of the BTS of when Pat hugs Pran from behind as he plays the Thai xylophone and in real life, Nanon is trying so hard to not laugh. Loved even more the "You're an Architecture student, right? Haven't you wondered how much shaking this house can withstand?". We all know what that meant, right? (If you don't, it's nothing sweetie, just boring old people stuff. Be a child as long as you can.) Pran's reaction cracked me up but also made me want to wrap them both up in a blanket and hug them. Yeah, I'm weird like that. Also, Pran's "No, i don't want to know. I'm not curious." – of course you don't want to know, Pran, of course.
I love that they managed to fit in a song by Nanon. It was a pretty good song, too. I also really liked how fast Pran's expressions changed when Pat arrived. Saying this for probably the millionth time, but Nanon is an amazing (Off Jumpol's voice) actor.
The Pat and Hona (Chief) waking up shirtless together scene. It. Was. Hilarious. I am never ever forgetting it. Them being like: my boyfriend is going to kill me. And yeah, they probably would if they came to know. I liked the reference to PatPran ep 11 when Pran asked how many points he got out of 10. And Pat realizing it's not his faen just by the hand made me a little soft. Also liked the reference to the rangers' t-shirt that Hona had first offered to Tian. Though the first thing that came to mind after seeing it was "Tian and Pran are going to be so jealous when they (mis)understand what the t-shirt means". Ya'll have ruined my innocence so you need to suffer too.
The watch made a comeback! So happy. I really wanna know how Pran will react when Pat gives back the watch. I have a hunch to what Pat will say when he does.
As for the preview, I'm happy (and a teeny tiny bit skeptical) about Hona & Pat's and Tian & Pran's growing friendship.
[Unmute :D Do NOT repost; I'll do more than find you]
I have neither time nor energy to make more than this one clip today, but if i find the energy and motivation on Saturday (i will have literally no time tomorrow), be sure I'll make a lot of clips (at least 4 or 5). If you have any requests in the meantime, feel free to send them through my asks!
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kornswasianguyswag · 1 year ago
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Hi! I’m ling/6480. I make bad buddy fanart :) 23, he/him. I’m also weird about Korn.
Feel free to submit drawing requests in my ask box! I won’t guarantee they’ll be done, but I like hearing what people want to see.
Anyone can use my art as a profile picture or banner, etc, with credit given (a link to my twitter, tumblr, or ao3 will work fine). Please do not repost to other sites.
Most of my finished illustrations are also currently up on ao3 here.
Links: Twitter (@6480Y), Ao3 (macaque), BBS thai dialogue details guide
Note before you follow: I am a huge sucker for waikorn. I post waikorn and patpran, but I do also ship and often post poly/rarepairs, including stuff like waipran. If you don’t want to see this, please make sure to block the appropriate tags (explained under the cut).
(Click on any tag to see my posts with them)
Art tags: #l.bbs art (everything), #l.favorite (my current favs), #l.drawing (anything finished), #l.sketch (sketches and doodles), #l.silly (jokes/memes)
Ship tags (apply to both platonic and romantic drawings): #patpran, #waikorn, #patpranwaikorn, #waipran, #waipat, #prankorn, #patkorn
Character tags: #pat, #pran, #korn, #wai (other characters tagged with their name when applicable, but I mostly draw these guys)
AU/verse tags. There’s a few AUs I have that I draw often, and these are:
#l.femswap au: An AU exploring what Pat and Pran’s story would be like if they were cis women. The gender of their friends are also changed. (Note: It’s not a cisswap because not all the characters are cis. I don’t know what term to use, really. For context, Wai is nb because he sometimes is in my other AUs, and Korn is trans because she always is when I write her.)
#l.kiki au: A silly witch AU where Pran and Pat are rival witches... and Korn and Wai are their familiars, respectively.
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dancing-out-in-space · 1 year ago
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bad buddy fandom getting-to-know-you meme!
Tagged by @fiercynn, it's a lovely idea. Thank you!
note: i consider "fanworks" to pretty much everything people create related to a fandom, including but not limited to meta/analysis/discussion, gifs, fanvids/edits/fancams, filk, fanart, fanfic, fan food, fan crafts, etc. please include this note with the meme unless you have a different definition!
name and whatever you want to share about yourself Hello you can find me most places online as sweet_exile (except tumblr). I am terrible at intros so please ask if you want to know anything.
when did you watch bad buddy/join the fandom? I watched BB in April last year after a friend recommended some Thai BLs and this was the one I fell in love with. I kind of accidentally fell into the fandom after writing a couple of fics.
favorite ship(s) sorry to be obvious but patpran. I love inkpa too, as soon as I saw the 'oh no, I've lost my contact lens' scene I instantly thought, that's such a meet cute moment.
favorite character(s) Pat is my beloved. So dramatic, one thing goes wrong and he's ready to throw himself off the balcony. I absolutely do not identify with that.
favorite episode(s) Aaaaah! A tough choice beyond the obvious episode 5 answer. Episode 2 is great, the pre-credits scene is a work of comedy genius and I love episode 3 as well.
favorite scene(s) the epic rooftop kissᔗᔐ (of course!), episode 6 - playing in the sea and the 'you must hate me' conversation afterwards, the library scene in episode 3 - my favourite cheeky kind of Pat and also returning Pran's guitar.
one thing you would change about the show if you could I'm glad they didn't overdo Pat's jealousy of Wai but I do think patpran needed to have a conversation about why Pran left his guitar with Wai.
what are your some of your favorite fanworks made by other people? Oh so many, you're welcome to check out my bookmarks but a couple of my favourites are:
traffic was slow for the crash years by @fiercynn
What's in Your Head? (Zombie Eh Eh) by aworkingprinter (miscellar on tumblr)
A Soft Boy in Soft Sweaters by @dimplesandfierceeyes
(if you create fanworks) what are your favorite fanworks that you’ve made?
I've only written a couple of BB fics but the one I'm most proud of is Love is Careless in its Choosing It's the longest fic I've ever written and started off as a stupid thought - why is it always Pran who is ill with Hanahaki Disease what if it was Pat and it kind of grew from there.
a song that makes you think of bbs (the ones in the show don’t count lol) I have a habit of using David Bowie lyrics as fic titles, so a lot of Bowie songs remind me of patpran, which is my own fault I know.
Days from the Reality album is very them - "Do I need a friend? Well I need one now" "All the days of my life, all the days I owe you." "With redeyed pain I'm knocking on your door again, My crazy brain in tangles pleading for you gentle voice"
I could pick loads of them though. I'm fine honestly.
idk anything else you want us to know? I don't think so.....
I think @fiercynn has already tagged everyone I know in BB fandom so if you stumble across this and want to join in please consider yourself tagged!
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puppy-phum · 2 years ago
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Helloooo. Hope I am not too late coming in with a prompt? Because we talked about this the other day, could I request for an edit with a BBxVV crossover. With Talay or just Sea in the BB universe, or any AU you deem fit. I just want to see the 4 of them together in one set? You can go crazy with it, however you feel. 💙
mimi! as you kind of got confused by my interest post all that time ago, you get the honor to be the first one to receive your gift!
here it is
i told you already that this isn't Exactly what you asked for but this idea plagued my mind for a long while and i thought it came close enough to be fitting (they're all in the same set! it's kind of an au! am not wrong!).
i also know you and i thought you might appreciate getting something like this either way ♄ so i hope you like it and thank you so, so much for being here with me through this all ♄
(a couple more thoughts under the cut - for anyone interested in hearing stories about my edits and the thought process behind them!)
ok so first of all, a bit of an explanation why i didn't follow your prompt as strictly as i would've liked to:
in the beginning, i did consider making an edit where i would smash together both vv and bb scenes to create an illusion of talay joining the bbs universe. i actually wanted to make that happen bc you know how obsessed i am with the thought of wai meeting talay (or at least his own version of a sea -faced character).
but as talay is very finely dressed (when he's appearing as tess, who we see him mostly as) and doesn't wear a university uniform at any point, it started feeling too challenging. in bbs the guys dress very differently compared to the general vibe of vv (they're very relaxed; simple t-shirts and pants etc vs. everyone looking very stylish in vv), so talay would've stood out too much. i also considered using pangpond to get closer to the student look but that wouldn't have been talay so i abandoned that thought. maybe one day i will end up trying again but this apparently wasn't the time.
and then about this edit:
after abandoning the idea of throwing talay into the world of bb, i started thinking about the patpran/tesstun parallels everyone was after when vv was airing. how different yet similar they are and how they have some matching scenes with different feelings involved. then i came to remember the quote i used as a caption in the edit. then the other quote appeared. and then it just clicked - the tragedy of it all in both of these universes.
bc when in bbs patpran end up happy, wai does not (or well, waikorn is an option. wai with his faceless partner they mention in the last ep is an option. but we never really see him ending up with anyone and even his short-lived crush only offers him heartbreak. plus his whole storyline with pran, his best friend, that is also painful). and then in vv puentalay end up happy but tesstun do not (or at least we never get to see it). it's two different universes tearing them apart. not everyone can be happy at the same time.
and so we have this now, this edit that made me a bit insane :'D trying to find matching shots was a struggle but i think i managed quite well. i hope you can see what i was aiming at! bc i tried really hard to capture different situations and parts of their relationships. there was very limited footage, especially for tesstun, but am quite happy with what i got ^^ (this also unintentionally displays the pranwai relationship in a lot more romantic light than i intended? or is it just me?? very funny tho)
thank you so much for such a challenging prompt and for giving me such freedom to explore these two shows at once! i haven't gotten into doing that before so it was a lot of fun. now i will probably return to crying a bit more about this bc these thoughts opened up something in me rip
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charthanry · 3 years ago
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BBS: My Favorite Pran Moments
Of all the characters on the show, Pran is probably the one many of us relate to the most. We see ourselves in Pran. We understand unrequited love, have walked in his shoes. We see how he lives inside his head and makes himself smaller for others. How he gives so much yet takes back so very little so we applaud Pat for recognizing this and setting out to compensate by loving Pran LOUDLY and unequivocally- all of him, just as he is.
Here are my favorite moments from the series of our soft architect. It would be impossible for me to put my favorite Pran moments in any kind of ranking order because I LOVE them all. So instead I’ll list these chronologically as they appeared on screen.
EP3: You seem happy when you get to compete against me.
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This is the face of complete and utter devotion to all things Pat. I go back to this scene a lot just to revisit this soft moment. Pran comments that Pat seems happy when he gets to compete against him and Pat responds by teasing Pran that he does it because he likes to see Pran’s face...when he loses. And it’s very subtle here because Nanon is a masterclass actor, but you can see the light in Pran’s eyes at Pat’s words and again see that very same light extinguish when Pat qualifies it with when you lose. Go rewatch it. It’s very subtle but it’s there and it’s a testament to Nanon’s acting.
EP4 - Ink, do you like Pat?
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Forget about Pat wrestling the gun from that goon, this was the bravest moment on the show for me. When I first watched this scene, I couldn’t believe Pran would willingly put himself out there like this, it almost seemed out of character. BUT I later realized that there’s a quiet strength in Pran that’s undeniable. It’s not ostentatious or in your face, instead it’s a soft and unassuming confidence that many might overlook and oftentimes underestimate. He’s cerebral and overthinks everything so I imagine that this wasn’t an impulsive question for him. He’s thought about it, a lot, and by that I mean all the time, probably ever since high school as he watched Ink and Pat interact from the sidelines. (Oh, Pran.) And so he asks and waits with breath held...and we can see the exact moment when he’s relieved that Ink’s answer is no:
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I love this scene sooooo much because it not only underlines Pran’s bravery but also reveals the extent of his feelings for Pat. It’s so relatable because we’ve all been here. This moment allows us to see Pran’s vulnerability and applaud his courage in the same breath. Truly masterful direction by P’Aof and incredibly nuanced performance by Nanon. Also, with the surrounding natural light, Nanon looks absolutely stunning here. Like, I can’t look away.
EP4 -  Someone like you? What’s to like? I...hate you.
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No list of favorite Pran moments would ever be complete without this iconic scene from the end of EP4. I’ve said a lot about this scene in my ranking of BBS endings so I’ll try not to be repetitive here. Except to say that I consistently come back to this anytime I feel like dying a little because honestly that’s what it does to me. How much did Pat’s yes take from Pran? Everything. Watching him fight to hold back his tears as Pat lists all the reasons why Pran (as Ink) should like him, I have a visceral reaction to it every time. And then the soft, adoring smile as he watches Pat sleep as if he’s unable to look anywhere else. Ugh, it gets me every single damn time.
EP5 - Why? Do you want us to be friends?
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This is the exact moment where Pran looks at Pat for a split-second and decides to pull him in for that second, deeper kiss. This is when he makes the decision that he’s going to allow himself to have this. To have Pat. For just this small breadth of time. And there’s just something both beautiful and incredibly sad about how much of himself he pours into this kiss. Because for Pran, this is a one-time thing. So he goes for broke and lays himself bare at Pat’s feet. It’s both a destructive and healing kiss. His face at the end reveals his turmoil as his defenses make its way back. He knows that he can’t ever really have this, not in the way that he truly wants because it was only mere days ago that Pat admitted to having feelings for someone else. And more than that, is the constant weight of their families’ rivalry hanging over them so Pran does what he has always done- locks it away and leaves behind a reeling Pat.
EP6 - We know how it’s going to end, isn’t it better not to start at all?
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Pran leaves his guitar with Wai and in the process his feelings for Pat. We know he’s very conflicted but is also resolute in his decision to finally let Pat go. But as he leaves we see him look intently back at the guitar, take a moment to steady himself and walks out the door, determined to see it through. I found this scene again so relatable. That moment when you make the decision to let go of something or someone, not because you want to but because you know you have to. 
EP6 - I should take a break. It still hurts.
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Even though this started out as Pran distracting his friends from beating up Pat, we know that Pran isn’t lying here when he says it still hurts. He knows that Ink doesn’t reciprocate Pat’s feelings, but to protect his own heart he’s decided to let Pat go. Only Pat shows up and makes it impossible for Pran to do any of that letting-going. Remember Pran is an overthinker, so imagine how long it took for him to reach this point of acceptance all for Pat to swoop in and ruin it with his relentlessness. But in spite of his irritation with Pat, we see that Pran still deeply cares, he doesn’t want to see Pat hurt and repeatedly steps in to prevent that from happening. This small moment, two lines, is so telling of Pran’s emotional state. I love how he says it quietly, almost dismissively to his drunk (unhearing) friends. 
EP7 - Why did you come? Don’t you want to win?
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The radiance of Pran’s smile can part the clouds on a rainy day, hell, it can compete with the sun on any day. I love that Pran forgets his surroundings and everyone around him as he openly beams at Pat. Even though Pat says the words and declares himself the loser, they are both winners here. The bet was Pran being careful and guarded waiting to see if Pat is as serious and committed as he is, that this isn’t just one of their games. Pat said he would sweep Pran off his feet and though he would never admit it- try as he might, Pran has never been immune to Pat. Let’s face it, Pran lost to Pat years ago, long before the bet.
EP8 - I'm done adjusting. 
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I love this scene so, so much. Because as larger than life and confident as Pat is in everything he does, he’s insecure when it comes to Pran. He doesn’t want to mess this up and Pran knows this. This small moment right here is Pran letting Pat know that you can’t mess this up, I want this as much as you do, we’re in this together. Now take my hand and let’s go forward, together. It would be so easy to deny Pat this small gesture but he doesn’t because that would mean denying himself and I love this so much for Pran that he’s letting himself openly have these small Pat-shaped moments, no longer tucking them away to quietly look at later.
EP8 - Hey, that’s love. You can’t choose the person or the time.
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Pran gives heartbroken (pfft) Wai advice on the challenges of being in a secret relationship. The layers this conversation has could rival an onion. Here Pran is telling us that he knows his relationship with Pat is imperfect. That it’s difficult to even talk or see each other when they want to, that this is not the kind of relationship he ever imagined for himself- BUT he’s in it now and despite the many obstacles, being with Pat is entirely worth it. Because the opposite? The not being with Pat? That is unfathomable and not an option.
EP8 - Let me see your big smile with squinty eyes.
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Where everyone can see that Pat loves loudly, Pran shows his affection in softer, more muted ways- neither more or less than the other just different and this is a great glimpse into that. Pran hears in Pat’s voice that he’s not fine so he rushes home to be not fine with him. We usually have Pat acting up and teasing Pran to coax out a smile, but here the roles are reversed and Pran fills in admirably by doing funny bits and being the cutest to make Pat laugh. He asks at the end if Pat is better now, he needs to hear him say it, needs that reassurance that Pran can be for Pat what he’s been for him and that’s his safe haven, where he can lay down his troubles and worries and simply, rest.
EP8 - But I care about you more.
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I love the conversation they have behind the curtain. And I love that it’s Pran who initially seeks out Pat. A total reversal of EP6 where Pat did most of the chasing and heavy lifting to get Pran to talk to him. Here Pran realizes while watching Pat play the xylophone that everything he has with Pat means more. That the whole of Pat is greater than the sum of everything else. It means if posting photos on social media makes Pat happy then Pran will figure it out, he’ll come around on being okay with it. Because for him, Pat’s happiness is non negotiable. It’s not even a question, Pran chooses Pat everytime. And I absolutely love that he makes this clear to Pat.
EP9 - But I ordered less sweet. 
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Pran recognizes what Pat is willing to do here and that is go back into hiding for him just so that his friends will talk to him again. And I think this is the moment that Pran fell that much harder for Pat (as does the entire fandom). I love that Pran doesn’t even consider Pat’s suggestion, not even for one second, the hestitation we see is Pran considering Pat. He’s asking himself how are you even real? How are you this good? Can I keep you forever? (Yes Pran, all you have to do is continue looking at him like THAT). And for once, Pran initiates the touching by placing his hand over Pat’s and grips tightly, a telling action that says thank you, thank you for being you and for caring about me this much. I’m not going anywhere.
EP10 - If I do that, how can I ever really quit?
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Pran’s reaction to finding out that Pat ran after him with his guitar on the day he transferred is everything to me. This is one of my most favorite Pran moments of the entire series and I don’t say this lightly. If I had to rank this, it would be in my top five for sure. It’s the show’s small, quiet moments that grabs me refusing to let go and this right here is one of the standouts. Again it’s small, almost fleeting and so nuanced that blink and you might miss it but it’s impact envelops me like a warm hug everytime I rewatch it (which is a lot). After Pat reveals to Pran that he ran after him, we see Pran make this face of utter surprise and contentment like he’s lit from within by Pat’s words. But more than that, we see him take a small gulp and look away because he’s choked up- I am completely floored by Nanon’s acting here. THIS tiny swallow is what gets me. He’s so moved by Pat’s confession that it chokes him up. I’ve always been grateful that Pat is an excellent communicator, that when he wants Pran to know something he tells him, but never more so than in this moment. 
EP10 - Uncle, please calm down.
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Pran sees that Ming and Pat’s conversation is escalating and does the unthinkable of jumping in between them. Pran has never been one for physical altercations, we’ve seen him try to make peace between the two friend groups. Using his wits to defuse tense situations is more on Pran’s radar, not fists. So it says something here that he bodily steps in front of Pat unconcerned for his own welfare and more intent on protecting Pat. I love him for this especially because no one would have fault him for continuing to watch from the sidelines. This wasn’t his fight to bear but he did it anyway. Pran so fucking cool.
EP10 - I can’t take it anymore.
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What gets me the most about Pran’s breakdown is how he holds himself back and only when he sees Pat does he let himself completely shatter. His faith in Pat to catch him in this moment is so breathtaking and raw and overwhelming. This entire scene left me completely gutted. Pran finally releases all his repressed feelings because he now has someone that he can lean on to carry some of the burden. His shoulders rack with each sob and it takes Pat holding him up for him not to fall. We can see how tight his grip is on Pat, anchoring himself to him. This moment between them is deep-rooted with trust and love and everything unspoken. 
EP11 - It’s our last night on this honeymoon.
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Pat’s gratitude for never leaving his side and making him happy is the ultimate affirmation for why Pran stays in their honeymoon bubble. Pat needed this time to eventually realize and accept that they’d both have to return home at some point. Pat needed to arrive at this realization on his own. Pran knows this and remains patient and present for him. When Pat finally tells him let’s head home, Pran tears up because he understands what this means, the gift Pat is giving him by acknowledging that Pran needs his mom too. And with a quivering voice and a gentle smile he says let’s spend our last night celebrating, let’s not end this time on a sad note but a happy one instead. It’s the voice wobble and the smiling through the tears that gets me.
EP11 - I wrote this song for him.
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This show has never had characters come right out and say ‘I love you’ and it never needed to because of scenes like this one. This is Pran's I love you to Pat and the flashbacks in the montage are all the reasons why. But what’s even more revealing is what Pran says to the bar audience (but really its words solely meant for Pat to hear) that he doesn’t regret anything because everything that led up to this point gave him Pat. These words and this song is Pran’s answer to Pat’s stairway love declaration in EP10. Without knowing it, we became two people who can’t be just friends. I wrote this song for him. And damn if this doesn’t beat all the raised boomboxes blaring ‘in your eyes’ and all the rain-soaked airport chases in all the world.
EP12 - That's for other people.
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This scene where Pran reassures Pat that only he has access to his home through Pran's window and everyone else has to use the front door is so simple yet so endearing and genuine. Pran is telling Pat why would you want to be like everyone else? You have me. And as long as you pay the fee (of loving me) you can have this (me) for life. This is Pran committing his life to Pat. (Sobs). We close out the series with the two of them talking and laughing and looking at each other like they always have and will continue to do - only now with the unwavering certainty that the other person will already be looking back.
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Thank you so much for reading my favorite moments with our soft architect. Up next, my favorite moments with our clingy engineer as well as the daunting task of full episode rankings so stick around for both. If you missed it, please check out my rankings for all 12 BBS episode endings. Thanks again!
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dribs-and-drabbles · 2 years ago
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#BADBUDDYREWATCH
Ep 5
You know how Pran asked if Pat was Pran's boyfriend in ep 2 as a joke despite actually wanting that...well, after Pran's heart gets broken by learning that Pat likes Ink and any hope for him and Pat to be together has been shattered, Pran somehow is able to take it to the next level and ask Pat if he's Pran's wife. I mean, go big or go home right? What's that saying that there's always an element of truth in a joke. Pran is so brave. (This also applies to the "Who on earth told you this was cute?")
I love that there's so much of that condensed milk stuff in that sandwich that it flies out when Pat picks it up and drips over himself and the worktop.
Also...@telomeke-bbs pointed out that when Pran's making his own breakfast at the beginning of ep 2 he only makes a sandwich but here there's also eggs, sausages, and salad...which might mean he made all that for Pat.
Oh and then Pat seeing Pran eating the sausage might be why he made Pran sausages when he cooked breakfast in bed in ep 8...because he thought that's what Pran liked/ate.
Pat's "I hope you're not as cruel as to make me wait outside" has always interested me because you can hear the teasing/whining tone and also because he uses the polite form of 'pronouns' of P'Pran and P'Pat instead of the informal/rude 'guu/meung' which they mainly use (not sure what it means when P' is being used for both people but brushing over that...)...BUT I think Pat ends with a 'ja' instead of the polite 'krap', which according to @absolutebl is "used with very close friends/family and by the queer community". I think Pat uses it here because they've been joking about the 'wife' status...but I wouldn't be surprised if this had an effect on Pran even before the pleading 'na'.
LAKYIM my beloved!
If you haven't read @telomeke-bbs analysis of this first scene you should - there's a fantastic bit about how a water splash is a substitute for saying 'asshole'. Love it!
"If I see any stain on them, I'll barge into your room and yell at you" -> Pat must have had a huge dilemma with this...I mean, does he clean the dishes well to impress Pran and get his praise? Or does he do them poorly in the hope that Pran will barge into his room and scold him? I mean...that's a difficult choice!
(omg I've only just got to the credits and I've written all this already...sorry it's going to be a long one...I mean, I guess it's to be expected since it's ep 5...)
Oh the embarrassment! We've all been there Pran.
I've never really understood the "Don't butt in next time" line... Anyone got any thoughts?
Ooof Cloaked Emotions by Lama House...another piece of music that stabs me in the heart...and the title fitting the scene -> Pran hiding his feelings at seeing Ink and Pat together.
Pat eating properly because of Pran 😭
Because of the order of filming, it looks like Pat gets a haircut before his date with Ink.
😂 I can't with the horse sound effect đŸ€Ł
The mental gymnastics Pa must have done without realising to justify why she should tag along to the date that she told Pat to go on with Ink.
"I don't have to tell you I love you. I fed you pancake". AFTER INK ASKED PA TO FEED HER THE PANCAKE AND THEN INK FEEDS PA THE PANCAKE.
I'm irrationally disturbed by the continuity error with the hands on the guitar.
But that gets erased because the choreography of Pat turning his head away unblinking when Pran looks at him on that bit of music (6:06 in part 2) is DIVINE.
Also, I love Pran's hair and I know it must just be because the instrument shop scenes were filmed early on and therefore Nanon's hair was shorter/tidier (like Ohm's) but still, I love that they both look so good during Pat's Oh moment.
When I first watched this I didn't need Pa's repeated voiceover of the four signs because I got it just from Pat's expression...but now I don't mind it.
But also back to the music again because the way they edited the recap of the four signs (actually the whole instrument shop scene) with Pat and Pran's head turns, their actions, or the camera angle/frame changes hitting either the piano chords or the 'silent' suspensions in the music is actual choreography and adds to why this scene is SO GOOD. They are dancing to the music...and the irony of them being in shop surrounded by instruments...
I've just noticed that during the bread-eating scene, the pink and purple of the condensed milk tube is amplified by the painting on the wall behind, the sticky tape and post-it notes behind, and the selection of pens in front...
This has already been pointed out, but the lyrics of the song Pat suggests they sing in the flashback, Never by 25 hours, basically reflects Pat's loneliness when Pran went away. brb crying.
When We Were Younger instrumental over the flashback scene 💖
That flashback is Pat wondering if Pran liked him, no? I mean, I know Pat is realising his feelings for Pran and remembering back to high school is part of that...but that particular memory is Pran telling Pat he wants to write something that reflects the idea of 'born to be together' and two people growing up together falling in love as well as them writing the 'are we friends or are we something more?' song...so Pat must be wondering how Pran felt and still feels now.
Pat's freshy day outfit!
I must have known this already but can't remember if I've written about it before when I've talked about this shirt, but the word 'pineapple' is written in both red and blue on Pat's shirt.
Oh the hurt in Pran's eyes when Pat says the song is lousy.
'silly' ... 😭
PRAN THE WARRIOOOOOOR!
And we're back to Cloaked Emotions. This time Pran is forcing Pat to stay quiet.
You know how the production team created the condensed milk tube...well I wonder if they put a rose on it because that's the usual flower people give as gifts to those they like...and Pat bought it as a gift for Pran...effectively buying him a rose. But maybe this has already been pointed out.
"IT WAS DEPRESSINGLY LONELY FOR ME" 😭😭😭
Pat's tear...😭 Then Pran's tear...😭 (and mine of course)
Oh god, the way they both move towards each other...
THE MUSIC when their lips touched...
It's the way we all thought the ep, the show, had reach its peak at that short first kiss because the music hit a crescendo and BECAUSE THEY HAD KISSED already in ep 5...but then not 10 seconds after their lips had parted the show absolutely DECIMATED us with that epic second kiss. Pran pulling Pat in, the hand on the neck, Pat's first hand gripping the back of Pran's head, the gasped inhales as they shifted their heads, Pat's second hand joining his first, the increase in speed, Pran's second hand also going to Pat's neck, the symmetry of it, the MUSIC, the way Pat hunched into his shoulders to devour Pran's mouth, and the slow pull away as the music tailed off...
Pat's smile and breath of relief
Pran's devastation
The rain
Pat's tear-filled eyes
Baseball mom
The prolonged black screen at the end as the music ended...
The way I was never the same again.
This ep has such special memories for me, not only because of the show and what it did to me but because of where I was when I watched it. I've since sold and moved from the apartment I was living in at the time and I treasure the memory of settling into my sofa with a blanket over my legs, a warm cup of tea and something sweet to eat, the light slowly dimming to black outside even though it was only 15:30 (it was end of november and I lived in Sweden), and then the euphoria when I realised this silly little Thai romcom bl was doing something different. Ep 5 part 4 not only changed me in many ways but it changed the way we watch bls now. We have higher expectations - a bar has been raised - and I'm seeing where shows are reaching for it. Last December, I watched the GMMTV Live for the first time because I caught some people talking about it on tumblr (I didn't know anything about it before even though I'd been watching Thai bl for a year). Now, I'm ridiculously excited about seeing it this year, to see what we may be in store for next year. Hopefully they will build on Bad Buddy, Vice Versa, The Eclipse, and others. And I know there are other production companies and I'm also excited to see what they do too...and for all the gl coming out... But back to Bad Buddy ep 5 and it was this ep that finally brought me to make this blog because I needed a way to process what I was watching - and to scream about it with others. I had never analysed a piece of media in this way before this show and I've since continued with many others. This is who I am now. This is part of what I mean by Bad Buddy changing me. And I'm thankful for it, and for Aof, Nanon, and Ohm, and for all the people who I've interacted with on here about it. There is something exceedingly special about this show and I wish I could adequately express it to the whole world but I also want to keep it for me, and for us, to treasure always.
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kaleidoscopic-quiddity · 3 years ago
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things i loved about episode 12
i owe p’aof my fucking life 
the way they had us in the first half!! bbs rlly said ‘ep 11 curse? break up? separation arc?? fuck that’ 
patpran acting emo not bc they broke up but because they were in a long distance relationship for a year 
the way pat pulled pran into his apartment 
‘you only served me for 5 minuets’ ‘i was excited’ jhjhgfgh oKAY 
inkpa being the cutest gfs ever god i love the two of them so much, ‘its like we have 2 daughters now’ aawwwww
pat and pran’s smirks when they lied to their parents about breaking up 
pran and wai fucking winking at each other when pran told his friends that he and pat had ‘broke up’ 
pat going to the wrong airport like the himbo he is 
the return of pat’s scent kink and pran finally indulging him 
pran speaking english 
the bait and switch with wai and korn, i bet their respective girlfriends hate going on double dates bc the two of them spend more time flirting with each other than them 
the way dissaya and ming both know that pat and pran are still spending time together, even if they dont necessarily know they’re still dating, and have decided to let it happen 
pat and pran going bacl to visit tong and junior after graduating 
pat aggressively pushing more food onto his family bc he’s a habitual caretaker 
‘now thats my little sister :D!!’ 
korn an wai doing the arm wraparound beer thing 
the way they switched to the child actors during the tin can phone scene 
‘this isn’t a porno pran!!’ had me howling with laughter 
pat getting a turn to narrate along side pran
the way the drama between their families wasnt magically resolved but instead the parents have come to realise that their shit should stay between their generation and not be pushed onto their kids 
yes yes its pretty sad pat and pran had to back to hiding their relationship BUT the fucking comedy of that car scene is unparalleled  
plus them linking pinkies as they walk past each other and just generally being dorks 
the return to the noodle truck 
all the fuckin cheek smooches this episode 
that guy from their high school who was like the MC of the reunion, my mans was bringing so much energy to that scene 
prans’s very obviously green screened view from his room in singapore made me giggle 
pat putting the shirt on nong nao
korn and pat teasing wait for being such a ‘religious man now’ 
that engineering boy in wai and korn’s bar who asked an architecture girl if she had a boyfriend and the way she replied ‘i have a husband, your dad’, queen shit right there 
pat jokingly telling the engineering and architecture students in the bar to not fight bc they might end up with a lover and pran jokingly telling them it’s not worth it if they end up with a lover like pat 
korn with his hair down for basically the whole ep 
that classroom scene with pat and pran flipping each other off, it was like the definition of pigtail pulling 
wai calling pa ‘my girl’ only to immediately get dunked on 
pran making pat think he was gonna do something sexy and then just pulling a fuckin judo move on him 
pran teasing pat by joking that wai had also snuck into his room before 
‘good luck, buddy’ happy edition 
the dumb drinking game and pat’s overblown reaction to the shots 
pran getting the lyrics wrong when he and pat were singing together in his room and the two of them laughing like total goobers 
the way bad buddy went it’s entire run without homophobia ever being an issue or source of drama, that’s super refreshing to see 
the recontextualization of the red shirt scene in episode 11 not as a breakup but as a vow to always stay by each other’s sides, even when it feels like the whole world is trying to push them apart 
pran being just as much of a horndog as pat is lmaooo 
the call back to their early dynamic and calling each other ‘the guy with the fierce eyes’ / ‘the guy with the dimples’ 
pat telling pa to drink her water every time she says she wants to try liquor 
pat crying at the end op ep 11 not being bc they’re breaking up but bc he’s a dramatic little shit and is upset he cant flirt with pran in public or gush abt him to his friends anymore, which, like, definitely is sad in it’s own right but mans was acting like he’d just had his heart ripped out 
ive said it before but it bares saying again: the way pat and pran also feel like best friends who genuinely have a solid foundation to their relationship as well as loving boyfriends 
the way there wasnt a proposal but pran did say that he wanted pat to be the one to sneak into his room for the rest of his life 
the zoom out on pran’s door handle thingy showing the smiley face at the end of the final scene ):) 
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patandpran · 3 years ago
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Hello! I truly enjoy reading your analysis of BB. You really capture what I felt while watching the episodes. I know since the last one was a Pran centered, there are not a ton of these types of analysis on Pat for episode 4. I know this is asking a lot but do you have it in you to do one of these for the scene of when Ink invites Pran to join her and Pat at the table? Pat’s expressions from the time Pran walks passed the chair to sit next to Ink and then their whole conversation afterwards. I noticed Pat’s many expressions it still with me and I don’t know how to truly capture it in writing. I know at the time most people where drawn to Pran’s feelings but Pat was right showing us some as well.
Sorry it took so long for me to get around to this. Being a new mom takes a bunch of my time up! Haha
Anyway here goes
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First of all, Ohm is the king of micro expressions so there’s a lot to pick a part in this scene and I’ll likely only scratch the surface.
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This whole situation is so complicated. At this point, Pran is jealous of Pat and Ing and Pat is trying to figure out why Pran is being so distant and awkward with him. The epitome of this whole interaction for Pat is confusion and hurt.
One would assume that Pat would chase away a potential rival suitor if he really had feelings for Ing so when Pran appears and Ing invites him over, this reaction is surprising.
Pat doesn’t look pissed off, he looks almost concerned. He can tel that something is off with Pran, especially with the sheen in Pran’s eyes. He likely wants Pran close so he can figure out why he’s upset.
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Pat doesn’t skip a beat and pulls out a chair, inviting Pran to sit next to him. When Pran ignores the offer and sets his bag on the chair, instead, Pat tries to mask his own hurt because of the rejection but doesn’t do a great job of that.
At this point, Pat can only assume that what’s going on is that Pran also has feelings for Ing and her arrival has caused the tension between the two of them. It’s clear that Pat is already mourning the closeness that they’ve developed over the past few weeks.
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Ing notices the tension between the two boys and calls it out right away, suggesting they blame their interaction on the bus stop. In reaction fo this, Pat has a rather dejected look on his face which is very out of character for him, especially when he’s usually so goofy and flirty around Pran and Ing separately. It’s like he can’t figure out how to handle them all being in one place, as if he’s confused by the amount of conflicting feelings blurring his judgment. Again, he tries to hide this all but his effort is in vain.
Later in the episode, Pat uses this line against Pran before the game, likely employing it in a petty way to remind Pran of the interaction.
Ing brings up the upcoming game and teases Pat and Pran by asking who she should be cheering for, noting that they are always in competition with one another. This likely brings up the worry for Pat that he and Pran will now have something else to fight over: Ing.
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Pat puts on a fake smile but it quickly fades as if he’s trying to grasp for his usual demeanor but his heart just isn’t in it. The conflicting feelings he’s experiencing are overwhelming and too much for him to process and be able to keep himself in the moment at the same time.
His struggle is: can he still be friends with Pran if they both have feelings for the same person?
But his jealousy might be coming from somewhere place that he isn’t even aware of yet. Maybe it’s not Ing that he wants to be with

Pat seems to pull himself together and gets back to his flirty self when Ing notices that he’s wearing the bracelet she gave him back in high school. It seems like he’s overcompensating with his flirtiness as it doesn’t seem as genuine as when he is playful with Pran. Again, this is likely because it is inauthentic and is trying to, in a way, hurt Pran just in case he is competing for Ing’s affections.
Because that’s Pat and Pran’s default: rivalry and competition . That’s where they’re comfortable with each other, at Least to the outside world and in public. With witnesses, they must act as if they can’t stand each other and hide any sort of friendship (or more) that they might share.
After recalling the memory of seeing Pat receive the bracelet from Ing, Pran has a pained look on his face. He gets up to leave and Pat instantly looks like he regrets acting like that in front of Pran, shame and guilt written all over his face.
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As Pat watches Pran leave, his expression looks broken, as if he wants to go after Pran to see what’s wrong but instead fights the urge because he’s “supposed” to be with Ing and not Pran. He’s supposed to stay with the one he likes instead of the person that is his ‘rival’.
The whole scene is so revealing about how much Pats relationship with Pran is both very important but confusing to Pat. He doesn’t know where they stand but he knows that he cares about Pran.
I took this is also what inspires the conversation later in the episode. Pat wants to clarify what’s going on between them but, because he’s so oblivious, he ends up hurting Pran even more.
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nongnaos · 2 years ago
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bl / gl tag game
I was tagged by @icouldhyperfixatehim in probably Feb/Mar but I literally just had not watched enough bl/gls to actually do this. Then got tagged again by @talays-portkey recently (it is no longer recently, this has been in my drafts, 98% done for a month??) and was like ohhh I can probably do this now!
your all time favourite bl character and why
I'm gonna say Pat and Pran both bc bb is SO dear to my heart and I feel like they are a good representation of "opposites attract" bc they handle things/think differently a lot but are so similar it works.
what's your one character from a bl you wanted to punt into the stratosphere ( you only get one so choose wisely )
Honestly none? If there has been any show where I've really disliked the leads then I've probably given up watching, as for side characters I'm willing to forgive a lot in fiction that I probably wouldn't IRL. Also shitty people give the story more drama and I do live for the drama. One thing that I do find bizarre and I struggle with are characters who ship other characters in the show and will tell them, or post about them on social media... it's just something I would feel weird about if it happened to me (and I can't imagine that happening realistically as someone who grew up in Ireland in the 2000's.)
the best music moment from a bl
Ok ok, living for bb and the rooftop kiss but the very specific moment when Pat is telling Pran all the things he liked when Pran was gone (I didn't need to compete, or be paranoid, or know what your GPA was etc) and Pran is clearly upset about it and then he says "but it was so depressingly lonely for me" and Pran looks back at him and it's the moment where everything starts to change and just as Pran looks back into Pat's eyes with hope for the first time there's a little 4 note drum roll (@10:14) and it just perfectly encapsulates that feeling of anticipation when your heart skips a beat, I just [muffled screams into a pillow]. Also the Not Me industrial sounding background music. It was so different for a bl but works perfectly with the aesthetic and the feeling of the show. Same with Heartstopper, great soundtrack, perfect vibes for the show. Also the intro song for The Eclipse, I really love it too!
what's a popular heterosexual text that you would like to see adapted into a bl / gl ?
Looove a cheesy romcom so maybe a GL 10 Things I Hate About You, or maybe one day my dream of seeing A Cinderella Story with Austin Ames realising she's a trans girl will come true!!! Or the lesbian 13 Going On 30 where she goes to the future to realise she's in love with her best friend (a girl, sorry Mark Ruffalo) and realises she's gay and maybe that's why people picked on her at 13 bc they all knew she was ✚different✚ and she goes back and is like "i know being gay is scary rn but it actually does get better and I've seen it!!". Coyote Ugly!! The Prince and Me!!!! Gimme lesbian romcoms I beg!!! Most of these gave off wlw vibes anyway, making them gay now would just be righting the world.
a scene from a bl that always makes you laugh ?
We Best Love where they almost get caught on the couch and Shuyi introduces himself overly formally and Shide just laughs at him and Shuyi gives him the đŸ‘€đŸ€š (gif)
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Also, that moment in Semantic Error after Jaeyoung gets asked to work on Sangwoo's project and he's in slow-mo dancing down the stairs like "yeah, I'm gonna ruin this kid's life".
what two random bl/gl characters would make hilarious exes ?
Not hilarious but Namu from Not Me and Ink from Bad Buddy. They meet when Ink is taking scenery photos and sees Namu's graffiti and they get to talking and they have similar ideas and ideologies, Namu starts bringing Ink to protests and Ink brings her to some exhibitions etc etc they stay friends after bc wlw.. and then in the future the BB gang inkpa&patpran all start attending protests together. (Didn't P'Aof say patpran would definitely be joining those protests if they were in the same show? Like it all makes so much sense)
biggest disappointment ?
The way Not Me just sort of fell off in terms of storyline in the second half. Its only a disappointment bc those first episodes were incredible and the show deserved better.
who would be the funniest person to watch a bl in its entirety and which one would you make them watch .
Tankhun, and seeing as we've seen his reactions to steamy scenes and action or horror shows I feel like we should watch Manner of Death? I haven't seen it yet but I've heard it's steamy and mafia based so he could pick apart the mafia stuff and go wild at the smut.
best wardrobe moment / or character wardrobe from a bl
Shuyi's emo boy wardrobe from season 1 of We Best Love.
Wei Wuxian's emo boy wardrobe but make it historical.
Ink's lesbian art teacher vibes from Bad Buddy. (Extra shout out to Pat's ep 12 teal shirt and Pran's jumpers)
Tagging: @wkxs @talaypuens @wahgifs @snimeat @surajmukhis no pressure if you don't have time or energy! đŸ„°đŸ„°
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snickerdoodlles · 3 years ago
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was rewatching bb (as one does) and the scene in the cafeteria when Korn winks at wai... If u look closely i think he's actually winking at pran,, responding to prans nod. also, the angle also makes it seem like it. this ask has no point i just got excited and u have your kornpran friendship agenda so yeah...they're besties who tease wai and pat together. thank u for your service btw. i absolutely love all your bb fics...💗💗💗💗💗
you know when someone waves at you and you wave back, only to realize the person was actually waving at the person behind you? that’s korn winking at wai or pat. it’s never actually for them, it’s a signal to his bestie pran standing behind them that the day’s prank is a-go
the kornpran agenda is ALWAYS import, so thank u for thinking of me during your rewatch đŸ„ș💕 and thank you for you’re sweet words ajkfdkjdf, here’s a sneak peek at the first ~600 words or so of my next kornpran friendship WIP ❀❀ (*see full snippet under the read more)
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Korn’s going to pass all his classes thanks to his new best friend.
Pran is the best study buddy. Sure, he has negative interest in learning engineering concepts, but he lets Korn rant when he’s stuck. (“Really?” “Honestly, I’m so used to Wai bitching as we work that it’s the perfect white noise to me now.” “I feel unloved.” “What can I say? I thrive when you suffer.”) It’s so much better than studying with Pat or Mo--Korn actually gets a chance to figure shit out, instead of one of the geniuses just doing his homework with a vague Like this, see?
So yeah, reserving a room with Pran? Secret to academic success right here. Korn’s currently spending today’s study date just whining about his stupid calculus professor, but he’s doing it with his head pillowed on his textbook and he’s probably absorbing the information via osmosis or something.
“No cheat sheets unless they’re permanent tattoos,” Korn mimics in his whiniest voice. “Asshole. Professor Worapong says he’ll give us all the equations we need, but in the midterm he only gave us the general equation, which we’d spent a week deriving all our other equations from at the start of the term. Like what the fuck? We only have two hours to do an exam, does he want to test us on how well we actually apply the knowledge or just our powers of derivation? Ugh.”
Pram hums and taps the back of his pen against the table thoughtfully. Korn twists so that he can see Pran better; he doesn’t usually respond to Korn’s whining.
“You said he allows cheat sheets?”
Korn frowns. “Only if they’re tattoos,” he reminds. “If you want to cheat here, you should be ready to cheat in life. He thinks he’s so funny.”
The corners of Pran’s lips twitch. “I meant, he put that in his syllabus?”
“Yes?” Korn wrinkles his nose. “Bolded and fourteen sized font and everything.”
Pran carefully doesn’t look at Korn. “Did you know that if you only ink the surface of your skin, a permanent tattoo will eventually fade and drain away?”
Korn stares at Pran. “What.”
Pran shrugs, still avoiding Korn’s incredulous stare. “You’d have it for a few months. Maybe up to half a year? But
temporary permanent tattoo.”
Korn straightens. He hasn’t blinked once this past minute.
“Amazing,” he breathes out with a wide smile, and Pran blushes. Awww. Then Korn frowns. “Do artists do temporary stuff like that? How much would it even cost?” Korn sticks his tongue out at the thought. “Maybe I should just do it myself
”
Pran snorts. “Absolutely don’t do that, your handwriting is atrocious. See if you can get a tattoo gun and we can do it at my place this weekend.”
Korn takes a second to process that. “You know how to give someone a tattoo?”
“I’ve done it a few times,” Pran says modestly.
“A- A few times? How? When?!”
Pran scoops up his markers. “I have to get to class.”
“I memorized your schedule, no you don’t.”
Pran ignores him. “My place, Saturday, after rugby practice. Bring lunch.”
“Pran.”
Pran makes a hasty retreat. “Text me if you can’t source a gun. Bye.”
“Pran.”
But he’s already gone and down the hall, Korn’s questions trailing behind him. Korn gets the feeling that something sudden and mysterious is going to pop up during tomorrow’s study session too, which means that if Korn wants to know more about Pran’s shady past, he’s going to have to either go through Pat or show up Saturday with hopes of the tattoo drawing out more information.
“Well played, Pran,” Korn murmurs as he pulls out his phone and pulls up machine listings, “Well played.”
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the-wayside · 3 years ago
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Here is me apprehensive to talk about the sexual activity/positioning conversation but I'mma do it because I do believe it has it's place in a story narrative. Specifically that.
Leo and Fiat from Don't Say No had their sexual intimacy built into their narrative because that was literally the only thing they didn't do as friends. It tells a story. Some people may disagree with me but Tutor and Fighter, their intimacy was built into the construct which is why it was so terrible when P'Fight did what he did when he was confused about their break up and missing Tor. You have to build up the norm to feel the deviation. Their language both physical and verbal was so disconnected and then you also see them reconnect. But the way those stories are set up isn't better or worse, it simply is. Sexual intimacy is a tool and if you use it well, I think it adds value.
The fandom fractures when there is again deviation from the expected content and structure but you really have to "read the room". Pat and Pran are deeply in love, so it's not a wild assumption that they're having sex. Well we know they are now. Go them. But that intimacy isn't the intimacy built into the narrative. It's the verbal support and affirmations they provide to each other.
And, you know, as an older queer person I remember vividly the way queer characters were and are treated post the AIDS crisis. I think there are a lot of us who struggle with the hypersexualization of LGBTQIA+ in media (the immoral gay) and the juxtaposition of the Ken doll queer who is your BFF but is never having sex in their entire life (the safe gay). I remember watching Queer as Folk US for the first time and Justin's "bashing" at the end of s1 and the subsequent homophobia from his attacker will probably never leave me. Brian's utter shock and how he looked like he had his heart ripped out of him was so painful and so well acted. But at the beginning of S2, their intimacy was structured around sex because that's what the story needed to be. Justin struggled to be touched and Brian struggled to feel like Justin was there and safe without it. Some would argue hypersexualization, I personally wouldn't for the aforementioned reasoning but that show was held as ground breaking due to it's portrayal of sex. Even now I would say it's stereotypical, Brian Kinney, the "man whore" gay man, but at the time, I was a confused queer who never realized my sexuality and later proclivities could be just for me until I was ready to tell people.
My point is and always is that sex has a place in the narrative when done well but it doesnt have a place in every narrative. That's why, to me, I need to examine the narrative to see what the director and production team is trying to tell me. We're not being mocked by BB. P'Aof has given us a beautifully complex queer relationship (+1) and he told us what he needed to tell us and how he needed to tell us and we love this for him.
However, the positioning talk is something that kind of needs to die off. Not all sexual intercourse requires penetration and people are verse. If you're going to write a story then it has to be on your best understanding of the characters. I pretty much propped up a whole rare pair with a character considered to be a "top" as a "bottom" and engaging in BDSM activity specifically because I believe a) he 100% would enjoy that and b) sex shouldn't be boxed up and allotted as if it's that simple. It's not.
Nonetheless, I do think the examination of relationship dynamics when it's pertinent to the narrative has it's place. And by that I mean, P'Fighter. It was never explicit but the dynamics of their relationship indicated that he and Tor were verse characters but the narrative is left open for that interpretation and put it into the universe. I mean, the final episode Tor literally asks if he can take back what's his. BB on the other hand does not allow for that so let's not. If P'Aof wanted to tell us he would have and it's not necessary. His story isn't about that.
In short, know your show. Not everything is about sexy sexy time but when it is, go ham. Not before.
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kexing · 2 years ago
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hey! so this is for the bbs novel anon. i actually read the book while waiting for the show to air bc i was just obsessed with that trailer (why? idk what to tell you), and basically aof took the bare bones of the story; the romeo-juliette/ star crossed lovers/enemies to lovers trope and then subverted every single one of them.
for one, they completely omitted out pat’s internalized homophobia and his extremely dudebro behaviour and wrote the bestest boy for the show. in the book, he often visits pran’s room to get his bruises treated after their gangs fight each other, and when he starts to get infatuated with pran he goes and sleeps with this girl (i forget her name but this is another character the show changed), and they make this girl out to be a bitchy and clingy woman who wants to sink her claws into pat when all pat wanted was sex. basically the classic BL bitch which is another can of worms tbh. anyway, that makes pran jealous.
their first kiss is also wayyy less emotional and impactful in the book and a little uncomfortable to read because of the dubcon undertones. pat basically forces a kiss onto pran. (ew).
the show also completely changed the girl’s character — substituted by ink, my lesbian queen (long live inkpaa!) i love that they did this. in the book there’s absolutely no lesbianism.
and then, pran. my boy pran. i think the show retained a lot of his qualities from the novel but also got rid of a LOT. the biggest difference is that in the novel he falls into the archetype of BL boys who’re in a relationship but will continue to act like physical affection is a chore for them. just sooo emotionally repressed. this isn’t a dig at asexuals or anyone else, because if you are asexual then you’re so valid! but the way they wrote him wasn’t as an asexual person, so it was a little jarring to see. and show! pran god bless his soul loved smooches and showing warmth and affection to pat. the domesticity was so nice to see.
third change was wai and korn. novel! wai was an angel he is my baby gurl. i liked him a lot. he was so supportive and understanding and is actually one of the first people to reach out to pran because he senses that something is up after patpran start seeing each other. korn, was changed too, because show korn actually turned out to be the biggest patpran stan we loved to see it. in the novel he’s not so bad if i remember correctly. he also notices something’s up with pat and asks him if he’s gay. and novel pat actually says something as a reply that i love a lot, and that is: i am a god, and i can like/do whatever i like.
in the novel, pat adores and love paa the same. the whole drowning thing is also the same. but the novel didn’t show us that pran’s been pining for pat since he was a teenager. it also didn’t go in too deep with how patpran were actually really close friends and they even wrote a song together. that’s credited to the show. which i loved because it just gave so much depth to them as characters.
one thing thing the novel did really well was the Angst. A+ effort. in the novel pran’s parents catch them in bed after sex, and separates them. pat’s phone gets taken away, and while pran basically ends obeys the parents’ rule to stay in his room and stay away, even though it kills him, pat keeps rebelling. because pat’s parents start to arrange a marriage with a family friends’ daughter. they send pat and the girl on dates, which makes pran jealous etc etc. but i think the novel handled this well, because the girl wasn’t a villain and both patpran were just miserable.
one night pat packs up a bag and calls pran and asks him to run away with him. and pran refuses, even though he says it breaks his heart, because he wants pat to have a good life, and he knows if they run away they can’t support themselves financially, and pat can’t leave paa alone with his parents. he basically says; think about paa, and that’s when pat realizes he can’t leave his sister. so they break up!! thats why so many people were anticipating a break up because it was such a central part of the plot.
pat gets engaged/married to the girl. pran leaves for england to be with his cousin for a while. over time pat tells the girl how he feels: he tells her it’s not you, i don’t think i can ever love a girl. and the girl understands and they break it off, which causes pat’s parents to lose their shit. but eventually they have to agree. that’s another thing in the novel: the parents are mad homophobic (fuck those boomers).
then, pat starts working with his dad and he interacts with pran’s dad for a tender and he shows pran’s dad that he’s smart and he still loves pran. eventually pran’s dad caves and tells pat where pran is, and to go to him. then pat shows up on pran’s doorstep and there’s a whole emotional reunion and they have extremely sappy reunion sex after kicking pran’s cousin out of the apartment or smth i can’t remember too well. i think they go back home and end up together and that’s basically the end of the novel.
the reason for the family feud in the novel is just bad blood bc of business deals. so pat being a scholarship stealer was entirely the show’s writers’ genius decision i think it made a lot more sense.
the novel did deal with a lot of important themes like familial expectations and how queer people are always forced to put their parents’ happiness over their own. how it ruins lives in the long run. it’s definitely not the worst BL novel out there because i think the authors really set out to send a message and they succeeded, and a lot of the original text and context was lost in the translation, so it’s not for me to say if it was better or worse than the show. i just prefer what the show decided to do with patpran. its the romcom we deserve.
i’m so sorry this reads like an essay, i just saw the opportunity to talk about patpran again and i took it 😂 i miss bad buddy. can u tell? lol.
hi! thank you so much for this very thorough summary of the novel!!
sounds like A Lot and i agree that the show did a lot of things better while still keeping the essence of the novel
i can definitely tell you miss bbs!! kajsksjs and i feel you!!
once again, thank you!!!! â€ïžđŸ’™
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jojotichakorn · 3 years ago
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hiiii how are uuuu ????
I finally had time to watch ep 7 and none of my friends give a shit about bb but i neeed someone to talk to so i’m just gonna dump my thoughts on u IM SORRY
honestly im feeling a little underwhelmed with this ep :(( judging by the trailers leading up to the release, the concept of the bet seemed like it was going to be a pretty big part of the plot and i was super excited bc it had the potential to give us so much fluff and angst and tension, but they wrapped the whole thing up in a single episode, the entire thing just felt so rushed and played down I mean the last episode literally ended with pran licking chip dust off pats finger IN PUBLIC. idk maybe they gave us too much too soon with that scene because aside from the part when they meet in the library everything else that happened in ep 7 just paled in comparison :(((( i feel kinda robbed !!!
I’m at the point now where i literally hate wai, there is absolutely nothing redeemable about him whatsoever i’m sorry hes just progressively becoming more and more unlikeable as the show goes on
inkpa is canon. that’s all i have to say on that.
can we talk about how beautiful pats confession was!!!!!! the way he orchestrated the whole thing so that he could be the one to confess first so wholesome so on brand for pat, he really is the sweetest most, thoughtful boy in the world!! he’s always so careful not to push pran, who always acts so cool and collected but i think secretly loves being chased ((remember last week when he was gloating about pat following him from bangkok all the way to some camp out in the middle of nowhere)) i just love their love so much i can’t even explain in words, I’m pretty sure it’s the same in thai culture, but where i’m from sharing food and feeding the ones you love is one of the softest, most purest forms of intimacy so in the final scene when pran feeds pat without saying anything i think i melted, him giving pat the (albeit non-verbal) confirmation he has been longing for literally had be sliding down the wall, the way he wiped the food from his mouth and pulled him in, the way they sniffed each other and stole kisses AHHJKAHSGGSSHBAVAFAC I WANT TO SCREAM im just so glad they’re finally on the same page like they’re actually boyfriends now i have a feeling this weeks episode is actually gonna be a lot fluffier and sweeter than most people expect, but the ending will probably destroy us SORRY THIS WAS SO RAMBLY IM SO ANNOYING IM SORRY BYYYEYEEE
heeey!! feel free to talk to me about bb any time babes <3
you do you boo - obviously, but i actually loved what they did this episode. i never thought the bet would be a big part of the plot in the first place, and i don't think it should have been. especially after the time jump, it was very clear that it went on for WAY too long, and it was more important to finally get it over with rather than figure out who won or who lost at that point. i also thought all the moments were super on point. the moment in the library was great, of course, but it's far from the only amazing moment this episode to me.
the first scene was very adorable (if we ignore the parents), like pran literally choking on his food because of pat's flirting? immaculate! the whole back-and-forth in the first part, with pran knowing that he has pat wrapped around his little finger, asking him to pretty please fix the printer and batting his eyelashes, pat referencing a freaking porn video, and eventually freaking out afterwards? incredible! all the fucking tension in the scene with the bottle? i'm sweating here my dudes! pran being so confident that he knows every little thing about pat, and pat just hitting him with his ranat ek skills out of nowhere, and pat basically confessing his feelings through his little improvised speech? unparalleled! the fucking make up remover scene, where pat notices the sad sign on pran's door, manages to cheer him up in five seconds, with them being all lovey-dovey and pran drawing a literal heart on pat's face? adorable! even the fucking scene where pat has to hide and experiences such a range of emotions towards wai? chef's kiss!! pat basically being a fucking knight in shining armor, coming to save the love of his life? made me cry! and then the final scene with the metaphorical confessions and all the cute lil adorable kisses? the perfect ending to this whirlwind of events!
so yeah, needless to say - i fucking loved this episode fjglkdfjglkfdjgkfdjg
i am quite mad at wai atm and you will certainly find no wai apologist agenda on this blog, but i think he will be redeemed eventually, and we'll all get over it pretty quickly.
INKPA IS DEFINITELY CANON.
pat and pran are literally the best boys and they are so perfect for each other, i am so glad we have finally gotten here with them! đŸ„ș
and after every single "ARCHER PREPARE TO DIE OF ANGST" i am actually quite happy with your idea of the next episode.
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brighter-than-the-fireflies · 3 years ago
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after finishing both seasons of the gifted in two days I've literally been day dreaming about like...it being the events of the three year gap in bb?? (like they didn't release the audio file and the programme is still a secret au thingy) and the events of bad buddy happening but pran's behaviour is just like...slightly off
like after fighting with the literal government I don't think the faculty rivalry/ parent disapproval will matter to him as much
he might
1. care less about his grades because he hasn't before so why start now? also he has a future job guaranteed no matter what ig
or 2. care even more about his grades because he slacked off in hs and wasted A LOT of time plotting revolutions and not studying so...if he wants a job on his own merit without name dropping his school/ the programme he needs to take college seriously
and he kinda wants to keep his potential a secret and live a normal life (he's still reluctant to use it on people)
(the ministry cries about wasted potential but theyre reluctant to go against him again..bc who knows what that kid will do now that he's a legal adult who doesn't have to listen to hs authority figures...they're finally scared of what they've created)
maybe some of the gang finds out he went to one of the top schools in the country and they're like...why are you not in a better uni?? and then he has to explain that he was literally the bottom most student of that entire school😂😂
and since the gifted programme is pretty famous and everything maybe someone finds out he was in it...and head of his class?? and they ask him about it but he's really sus
and maybe they meet the gifted gang/ realised he's friends with really famous athlete/actress/influential rich dudes son and they all really respect him/ treat him like their leader and they wonder how exactly pran fits in that circle??
once he returns from boarding school he's really confident and probably doesn't worry about the small stuff anymore, but he's really serious at the same time..like he's been forced to grow up too soon (that part is the same I guess) and his parents wonder what on earth happened to change him like that..and then they maybe start to regret sending him off to boarding school finally
(also had this day dream scenario where pran was with pat the night they got shot (because maybe he refused to feel guilty for not telling wai and actually all of the engineering/architecture gang were there to celebrate the win) and they get into a fight with the opposite team bc of course they do and when the guy pulls out his gun on pat, pran just...tells him to stop. and he does. (bc he would def use his potential to save his bf cmon) and everyone is so confused!!!
as you can tell...im sleep deprived and I've seen 26 episodes in 48 hours...but yeah...thanks for reading my pang!pran agenda
(even their names are similar enough)
i think the only reason no one has done a gifted/bad buddy crossover yet despite the timelines matching almost perfectly is because no one wants to choose between pangwave and patpran
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