Maybe Station 19 was like an experimental cubist painting.
There were too many stories to be told and too many people trying to tell them, from too many perspectives, with too many styles…
Each viewer saw a different picture.
It was the show that tried to capture the zeitgeist and represent the under-represented. Also the show that often struggled. With the tones and textures. With representing w/o tokenizing. B/w laughing with and laughing at. B/w realism and romanticizing. B/w deliberate and arbitrary. B/w educating and entertaining. B/w what they consider profane and sacrosanct.
At times, it touched our hearts deeply. At times, it frustrated us to no end.
Not every story was given the respect, sensitivity and intricacy it was due.
One moment could lead to a profound understanding of an aspect of a lived life some of us had never known; while the next could be a moment that was beyond confounding - about an aspect of ourselves that made us feel slighted, diminished and even erased.
It had often been an exercise in empathy to find our common humanity at the intersectionality of stories. Yet, the scale of empathy often skewed too far in favor of some characters with the differing standards, narrative frames and plot armors. Ironically yet reasonably turning people off these very characters they wanted people to root for. A persistent dissonance and disconnect.
But it was also the show that didn’t shy away from the ugly, the raw, the uncomfortable and messy parts of our shared human experience. The tribulations of oppression. The perils of ambition. The tests of morality. The trials of friendship and love. That we would make mistakes, but we could also make amends. That we're not defined by our worst. That our best lives could still be in front of us despite the current struggles. That sometimes life sucks but having your people with you makes it more bearable.
I would think it an interesting journey for the diversity of people behind, on, and in front of the screen. The evolving stories, evolving characters, evolving storytellers, an evolving fandom - all amidst an evolving media landscape.
It was probably not an easy show to make. The show had a bewilderingly lack of support from abc or shondaland. Diversity seemed to be both good for promotion (when there was any) and the reason for the prejudice against it.
Just as it had not been an easy show to watch - so biased, inconsistent and self-contradictory. Like when they kept telling us about the family spirit and deep friendships yet somehow spent more time showing otherwise. Or when the writing of systemic sexism was somehow inherently sexist.
Personally, I don’t think characters belong to the writers alone. Besides the usual constraints, the characters were often adjusted back and forth to fit the plots. We’ve also learnt how network execs' dislikes, writers’ personal experiences were factored into the stories. I fully respect the writers’ artistic rights. But actors who embodied the characters for years have a unique understanding too. Viewers also have their personal takes about what were true to characters. It's ok to agree to disagree.
There had been sparks of brilliance, but often extinguished too soon. It has been confounding how the greys-verse did not capitalise on its vast potential, esp. S19. Even while both shows share a show-runner. Grey's anatomy could have lent its scale while Station 19 could have injected renewed energy back into its mothership. Both shows could have been better for it.
Although the characters have the foundation of distinct and interesting backstories, their development often did not fully utilise the narrative potential and the talents of the cast. I’m sure the crew was also competent and hardworking. But somehow some elements b/w n within the shows seemed to just cancel each other out instead of amplifying their impact. IMO 704 and 709 were a few exceptions.
But I'll always be glad S19 existed and we got a S7. I believe they had tried their best to wrap up and give closure to everyone invested in the show. I truly appreciated the hard work given the circumstances even when I personally didn't agree with some takes.
In the end, I really do want to remember it as the show with heart, the show that made us laugh and cry and the show that tried. The show that's unique - in both its merits and flaws. I’ll definitely miss the characters. One last time - 19!
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Forgot how FUCKING ANNOYING people are in pretentious fandoms. I googled to see if there’s a censored version of House of The Dragon bc thanks to my current situation I don’t have any privacy and there are kids around but I still want to watch the show and someone was apparently looking for that on Reddit but the only replies they got were a bunch of ppl being like “oh if you can’t handle some boobs this series isn’t for you” and even someone who was like “I’m a girl too and I’m asking genuinely why does it bother you to see some nudity. It’s a natural part of the body.”
Like SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL OF YOU JUST GIVE THIS PERSON AND ME THE ANSWER WE WANT DAMNIT. Some of y’all act like the only thing to these stories is the sex and nudity and shit like I get it some of the scenes are important to the plot but not NEARLY as many of them are important as HBO puts in. I want to watch Game of Thrones and House of The Dragon because I can see even from the outside they have really interesting characters and interesting plots and cool visuals and costumes and scores that are beautiful and cool to listen to and deep world building that is so interesting and amazing actors that are so good at their jobs and sets that are so awesome and really good cgi. Why is it such a big fucking deal when someone doesn’t want to see a dick ??? Or some boobs ??? I feel like it’s more weird that everyone is so fucking chill about seeing those part of people and you SHOULD be a little uncomfortable by it. They’re called private parts for a fucking reason. Sorry my brain isn’t totally rotted and desensitized by porn that I don’t like looking at people completely butt ass naked and fucking their siblings and getting assaulted MY FUCKING BAD I GUESS.
I’m literally just here for the fucking dragons my guy I don’t want to see Deamon Targaryen’s full fucking moon.
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y'all cannot have the whole "incest and csa are serious topics that can't ever be portrayed especially not without being tagged" argument and then throw out the word pedo every other sentence and censor it like people do to get around tiktok filters (p3do) so people can't even filter it out. i'm having trouble believing that these efforts are all for survivors
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you know how ppl will talk about Sex and Violence and be like “Deans gay bc his siren was male!” while ignoring and omitting the fact that the siren was in fact his brother? yeah just saw another one like that. someone rlly said the end scene in The Real Ghostbusters where Dean is like awkward around the gay couple (DRESSED LIKE HIM AND SAM) is bc he sees people getting to be openly queer and envies that and can’t come to terms with his own queerness and THATS why he can’t admit he loves cas even when cas is dying for him.
…buddy. Pal. Friend o mine. What hoops do you have to jump through and what disbelief do you have to suspend take a scene that’s 1.) meant to be a joke and 2.) specifically about WINCEST and make it ab Dean and cas. genuinely so curious how they do that.
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my hot take on purity culture is that nobody knows how to be normal about sex :3
(tw for sex, puritanism, pedophila (?) [not explicit tbh], and shitty discourse)
call me a puriteen n all but like has it not bothered you to ever think of why so many young people are sex negative (definitely not a culture and internet that puts us in sexual situations when we are far too young and far too uncomfortable) ? has it ever bothered u to ask why so many young people are not performing critical media analysis (definitely not a lackluster education and culture that dissuades us from thinking deeper about the media we read) ? when I was a minor I could not tell you how many people i knew (me included) struggled with porn addiction bc we were exposed to pornography when we were FAR too young. young people are taught to be ashamed of and fearful of sex while simultaneously having their sex lives being put on blast 24/7 for others to jack off to, and you expect us to NOT act out about it?
like yes, you are absolutely right that sex (esp queer sex) is a totally normal thing and that you should be allowed to write wtv you want to write and share it among other like-minded people! yes you’re absolutely right that sex is a huge part of queer history that has been historically wiped away and that needs to be preserved !! i will not argue that puritans won’t jump at any chance to censor and shame and discriminate against anyone they deem a deviant!!! that is true!!
but you cannot expect a bunch of young people, still educating themselves, still figuring out their sexual identity in a world that shames and sexualizes them, still figuring out how to truly interact w media to have already know that. you don’t have to educate them but like there’s no need to be like “erm…minors amirite 😒” when a block will suffice
it’s so ridiculously revisionist to act like the internet is ‘sanitized’ or is perfectly filtered out so that minors stay in minor spaces and adults stay in adult spaces. there are people posting porn on tiktok, on twitter, on tumblr, on every fucking platform one can think of (including youtube). it is truly not that hard to encounter adult material even when you’re a minor. people will gladly send you porn or similarly graphic stuff even if ur a minor. you literally couldn’t have looked up mlp on GOOGLE back in the late 2000s/2010s and not be shown mlp porn. there’s an infamous porn video of mlaatr where the main (16yo) character gets raped by rock creatures, and it looks JUST like the show’s art style. so it’s very likely that there’s a generation of people whose very 1st sexual exposure was watching their fave characters be placed in inappropriate sexual content when they were children. so yay learning about sex thru bastardization!!
and combine that with young people who have never actually been taught how to explore their sexuality and instead learned “if ur even horny for a minute you will go to hell and die” ur going to get ill-adjusted young people who do not know wtf theyre doing. u are going to get people who are going to bump their heads a fucking lot.
ill be honest and admit that when I was a kid I was definitely within the puriteen camp bc gw!! I was a queer kid who just started grasping their sexuality in the middle of the pandemic and all I had was unrestricted access to the internet, that gave everything to me at 110%
I am not asking that every space be wiped squeaky clean just in case that a minor might be present, but I am asking to extend a little grace. Drop educational sources a so called puriteen should refer to!! Show how that kind of puritanical thinking can do actual harm to marginalized people!! Don’t get in internet spays w kids!! Just block and move on!!
(also i will forever be giggling at that one comic abt a minor entering an “adult” space and then getting mad at the adults there and calling them pedos just for the ‘adult’ space the op was talking about to be sophia the 1st nsfw fanfic. i literally cant)
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NO BUT FR LIKE-
I can barely understand censoring words like rape, that's a very sensitive subject. BUT DISNEY?? FUCKING DISNEY????
I can barely take people that censor the Big Words seriously if you censor god damn Disney like that I'm going to laugh you out of the country
It’s like once a word becomes controversial you just can’t say it normally anymore. Like yeah I know Disney is insane right now but like dude. It’s Disney it’s not like a swear or anything. Like that one post on Twitter that’s like “I think we should censor the word Wh*te” or even in our own fandom back when junospy was around.
And also I’ve never understood what directly censoring a word even accomplishes. Like ev*ryone st*ll kn*ws wh*t y*u’re t*lking ab*ut. Like I guess using replacement words is better but they’re still so… childish (and if I’m calling something childish /derogatory then there’s a problem)
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