#and im both siffrin and loop
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More ISAT doodles, i'm currently doing a play through with friends right now and finished act 2 a bit ago. I'm not sure what counts as spoilers since the game is still relatively new and gaining popularity so i'll tag for each act.
#in stars and time#isat#isat spoilers#act 2 spoilers#isat act 2 spoilers#lemme know if i need to update my tags#the draws#me and my friends are voice acting for funsies#and im both siffrin and loop#so voice a bit wrecked from monologues but its worth it
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Hi i’m reaching soo hard but.
It’s not a 1-1 match, moreso about the habits? Nervous arm clutch, leaning forward when mad, clasping hands a lot, the smug side lean. Loop shares the most similarities with Siffrin, but I like to think they picked up some habits from the party too (after all they had a looong time to memorize those😁)
#isat#isat loop#isat spoilers#2hats spoilers#listen. hear me out#sorry if someone else pointed this out already#the isa one is funny to me because they have the same tick but very differently#isa does it when he’s nervous or embarassed#loop does it when they’re uncomfortable or feel cornered#odile one is vibes only i looked at their sprites and went. this lean feels familiar. and then looked at hers. sorry if its a stretch😁🙏#Siffrin also does that forward lean. i like to think he picked it up from bonnie but the vice versa is cute too#mira and loop clasp hands very differently but. they both do it a lot#guys please im cooking please no dont go💔#in stars and time#isat odile#isat isabeau#isat mirabelle#isat bonnie
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sometimes everything just sucks real real real bad
#bonnie my beloved perceptive no filter bonnie my fucking beloved#divorce ass fucking ship dynamic. you are upsetting the fucking children.#isat spoilers#isat fanart#isat#in stars and time fanart#in stars and time spoilers#in stars and time#isat bonnie#isat siffrin#isat loop#siffrin#lucabyteart#sifloop#YES THIS GOES IN THE SHIP TAG. DIVORCE DIVORCE DIVORCE#anyway i have a lot of thoughts on loop and bonnie as im sure does everyone. both before and after they learn who they are#i think a lot about how loop has several lines gently reassuring siffrin that bonnie never actually hated them. they've had time to reflect#and while theyve not healthily come to terms with much... they seem to actually have come to understand that one... and yet...#they aren't siffrin anymore now are they?#anyway im off on my travels for the next 2 weeks ! my wips shall stay that way for a while! yes this is a fucked one to leave u with!!!#byeeeee !!! ill be back !!!!#sorry to the claude wip for being stuck in purgatory for like over a month im usually not like this <3#abuse tw#as requested
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[Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations.]
#Isat#sasasap#sasasaap spoilers#sasasaap siffrin#isat siffrin#isat loop#isat spoilers#two hats spoilers#in stars and time#HEEEYYYYYYYY YALLLLL.....#This is a lot bigger than I thought it would be but lmao here you go <3#sorry for how big it is I dont. know how to format this Tumblr wise???#I dont usually do big ass projects like this and then post them#Also if you get the reference youre fucking awesome as hell btw#despite both mira and Isa in frame.. I am not fucking tagging them <3#this is all about them but they are also not part of this so lol sorrryyyyy#also i made a slight mistake but you dont fucking see it so thats all that matters to me#(several mistakes Im ignoring because this took fucking DAYS)#Anyway hope this doesnt take over the dash my apologies ahead of time if it does </3
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Memory
Very much inspired by Infinity Train, thinking about memories always makes me think about the tapes.
I wonder how much of Siffrin's tapes would be static? If it'd hold memories they couldn't actually remember?
It'd be so easy to get stuck in a tape, knowing it has everything you've forgotten but once held dear. (Anyone else thinking abt an ISAT infinity train au or-)
#in stars and time#isat#siffrin isat#isat siffrin#inktober#isatober#sasasaap#loop isat#isat loop#isat spoilers#two hats spoilers#sorry im tagging both of them but i wasnt really sure if ppl would even notice i used Loop's memories so djdjd#yellow's art
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i said in another post i was rping loop in a multifandom rp group and i'm having a lot of fun! so much fun that i made a giant doodle sheet of loop's glitch....that i haven't even gotten to rp yet but am so excited to im getting carried away. whoops
(in the context of the group, think of glitching like in spiderverse, they don't belong in this new world/dimension so their existence rejects it. we can do whatever we want for glitches so i just made loop's that they get their humanity back. yknow. for misery whenever they unglitch and go back to being a star [thumbs up])
i think my favorite here might just be the Go there Go Into the Dark catcrumb edit lmao
#isat spoilers#in stars and time#loop isat#isat loop#isat siffrin#siffrin isat#loops agonies are so much fun to write when siffrins already in the group and like#imagine losing your humanity and guiding another version of you through time loops all while having VERY complicated feelings on him#AND JUST AS YOU DISAPPEAR ON A GOOD NOTE YOU GET ISEKAI'D AND APPARENTLY STARDUST HAS ALREADY BEEN HERE FOR 6 MONTHS#AND HE SAYS THERES NO WAY HOME ON PURPOSE AND YOU JUST GOTTA TWIDDLE YOUR THUMBS they are!!! agonized!!!#blessing and curse that siffrin was already there bc theyre both like 'i kinda hate it here BUT im relieved and upset youre here too'#'because now im not alone but damn i dont want you to hate it here too!'#uuuuuuuugHHHHHH siffrin and loop....their mutual illnesses..... IM ill......
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HYPER SPECIFIC REFERENCE GO-
[id in alt]
#in stars and time#isat#poorly drawn isat#isat siffrin#isat loop#its pertinent that you understand. they are both cheating.#no i will not elaborate on this. figure it out yourself.#im not even going to tag the other guy on account of i dont want to.#good bye#(robots prns are he/him to be clear lmao)
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Am I crazy? Maybe I’ve always been I've become what I’ve hated? Or maybe I never did!
ive been floating around various isat and hatchetfield ideas but this one gripped me and would not fucking let go. hehe. something about loop as the apotheosis makes me ABNORMAL.
#in stars and time#in stars and time fanart#isat#isat fanart#isat spoilers#in stars and time spoilers#siffrin isat#siffrin in stars and time#basil paints#im not 100% happy with this but were all gonna PRETEND okay.#im being more adventurous with posing recently and it makes things look fucky and i will be OKAY with it.#anyways. uh. loop eye jumpscare.#drawing sif with both eyes is SO strange it feels viscerally wrong
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puts ur funny little time loopers in the animal paint game
#tak does draws#in stars and time#isat#isat spoilers#isat act 6 secret encounter spoilers#isat a6se spoilers#siffrin#isat siffrin#loop#isat loop#'is this a chicory a colorful tale au mal' yeah lmao#i have been possessed by the whimsies. and games i like. soim stapling them together#theyre both fennec foxes and look kind of similar because. yknow. twohats.#but cantaloupe wouldve been the wielder before fritter and was like. im imagining kind of had their hand forced in giving it up to him#but i havent hashed everything out yet SO . LMAO
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AND ANOTHER THING. i know that on a meta level this is literally just How Video Game Bosses Work. but also with how well the game mechanics work into the story in many other cases i don't think it's unreasonable to look at it from an in universe perspective
SO
i think it really says something that loop only uses their stronger attacks in their second phase. i think it really says something that you have to bring them down to 0hp four (4) times, attacking them repeatedly + proving that you are willing to genuinely hurt/kill them, before they'll use their most powerful attacks on siffrin
#talk tag#isatposting#isat#in stars and time#isat spoilers#in stars and time spoilers#man i am wordy today huh#anyways. i think abt loop a normal amount can you tell. i think about twohats a normal amount can you tell#also wait hold on i just checked the stats page again for this post and. it seems like loop Cannot crit in phase one?#unless im reading it wrong. but like. gestures emphatically if that is true#id need to go fight them again to check but i dont think attack buffs would do anything (bc their attacks are percentage based)#which would mean if both of those things are true the max damage they can do in phase one IS genuinely just 17% of ur hp#+ even if attack buff DOES do smth thatd still only be uhhhhhhh#like 25%? but even then they can only buff once per loop in phase one + they only do that 17% attack once every 3 turns#so theyd only be able to get one of those. so im just gonna say 17% max for simplicity sake#guarding halves the damage down to 8.5% and for the other attack halves it to 5%. you heal 6% every turn with the memory#you could literally just stand there and guard forever and absolutely nothing else. and stay at almost full hp the whole time#if im doing the math right then youd lose a total of 0.5% hp for every three turns. by just standing there and doing nothing but guarding#loop! does not! want!!! to hurt siffrin!!!!!!!! thank you for coming to my ted talk. takes a bow#wait thats not taking into account attack speed actually hold on#okay so its gonna vary based on level obvs + also my sif has the scissors equipped which lowers attack speed and i cant. unequip them </3#BUT. opened up my act 6 save to check. his attack speed is 186 (at level 76) and loops is 170. so sif outpaces loop#which MEANS [clears throat] sif can probably outheal all the damage loop does given enough time#okay. thank you for coming to my ted talk for REAL this time. maybe ill make these tags their own post i fucking went off so much help m#was joking abt being really wordy today and then went and wrote a FULL ESSAY in the tags like okay
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okay .. take two !!!
+ bonus doodles
#i !!!! like this design a lot more#kinda worried abt the cloak …. but !!!#what do we think ………..#oh. wait. also#-> tried to combine the v shape and the cloak#figured out how to incorporate the bottom half wing like design#they have tails !!! they like to sometimes pretend it’s like a bird#(loop running around bc swish swish flowy) (bats their eyelash) am i not the prettiest bird youve ever seen#also while the leg straps for knife was cool#i feel they. while it wouldd be easier to maybe access#anyone could take it !!! the way it was !!!!#into the holster and belt you go#OH and and#the little chains and pendants dangling from the belt ?? those are like keychains from all the things that remind them of their journeys#OH and they’re wearing. kind of leggings ??? for better agility#im trying not to overdo everything. so that it’s not so cluttered#but that. also Is this point. as fun as this outfit is most of it is just loop taking clothing items they first see and running off#“okay rogue time. i can do rogue.” tthey are a mess <3#they’re kinda in that stage of. between siffrin and figuring out who They are now after all of that. clinging slightly while also changing#(they absolutely did steal those little pins from sif btw <3) they thought it would be funny to see how long it took for him to notice. and#then it just stuck.#“why is loop okay with the cloak now?” bc !!! its not a one to one. and also. sif here found loop at possibly the worst spiral ever#it Would have brought equal comfort as it did discomfort if they wore both the hat and cloak then. and (their words) it would be much easier#to tell which siffrin was who !!!!!!!!!!#agh .. okay#lantern’s art corner#isat spoilers#isat
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I wanna take a crack at making some fake screenshot graphics for my Sif Odile duo loopers au but I do not feel confident enough in my ability to mimic isat's art style and I also have a crippling fear of drawing backgrounds
#rat rambles#stars posting#I wanna make a thing for odile's parallel scene to the bathroom scene were sif forgets odile's name#but it takes place in the traps room by the wood carving tools which isn't the worst room to have to draw ig but I still dont want to#I could just take the lazy route and just sketch the scene so I can get it out of my head and I probably will#but at the same time I also should draw more stuff with backgrounds even if it makes me want to throw up and cry#but yeah the scene is basically just odile having a derealization moment while thinking abt the wooden odile carving sif made for her#just her looking at it and feeling nothing and trying to look ahead at siffrin expecting to be reminded of what it's supposed to make her#feel and just being met with the same emptyness in her chest as she can barely even recognize the person in front of her until they look#back at her and their expression shifts into a extremely concerned one#does that make sense? idk if Im explaining it well but I hope it makes sense#but yeah smth smth them becoming less real to eachother overtime much to the horror of both#also unrelated but I need to start rotating loop in this au in my head more theres so much to work with here#I have some vague ideas and thoughts but I have been too odile brained to properly elaborate on those in my head#Im honestly just glad Ive finally made an au that I can actually get invested in fleshing out#I havent rly found a good headspace to rly play around with the main cast but this is actually giving me smth to chew on#usually most thoughts I have abt isat just lead to me thinking abt my ocs lol#regardless Im having fun with this au and I hope that I can bring myself to commit to it#also Ive been trying to think of a decent name for this au and Im half tempted to call it from the top or smth but I feel like Im tempted#to call like every story I make that so Im on the fense abt it#especially since thats what Ive been planning on calling the prologue for spiraling upwards#not that I cant just do both but I wanna see if I can think of any alternatives
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I can’t stop thinking about Loop. Imagine doing everything, anything, to get out of a traumatic situation but the price is you. Your body is gone, your name is gone, your family doesn’t recognize you, you feel like most of your memories of them are gone too anyway. Suddenly you’re denied your identity. It’s like YOU never existed… and someone else took your place. You, whose biggest fears are forgetting and being forgotten in turn. You, who’s hesitant to change and now you’re forced to. You can’t even really blame anyone else because you did get your wish, right?
It’s explained clearly in the game, but the implications of it just hit me extra hard sometimes. Siffrin is as much of a study of Loop as Loop is of Siffrin. They share(d) their fears too so mal du pays words essentially becoming the truth to Loop is just… 🪨🪨🪨🙁🙁🙁💥💥💥💥
What do you do when all you have is ripped from you, all your worst fears come true, and youre forced to just… come to terms with it?
#isat spoilers#isat loop#2hats spoilers#shaking you by the shoulders#i love siffrin and loop so much#’’wkb’’ consider: i am new and also stupid#yes ive KNOWN but i didint really GET it yk? like how horrifying losing you self is#they make me die#postgame loop makes it hit extra hard bc ppl are partially defined by their experiences#the longer siffrin and loop exist as separate the more they diverge#that must be TERRIFYING. to an extent to both of them#of course they’ll always have many similarities as they started as the same person but like#loop is just despair au siffrin#<- specifying postgame fics that explore loops identity bc canon had them fade out#which i love btw delightful angst i love everyones takes on loop#in stars and time#isat#i think genuinely in Loop’s shoes as someone who’s also hesitant to change: if I didn’t cry 24/7#i’d be clinging into who i was and still want to be in some ways. but as i’d heal i’d probably want to be distinct#like im me and always will be me but i want what i experienced to not be a footnote. i dont want to be a mirror#’’i am who that family loved but im also someone new’’ yk? its so hard to battle with those two opposites of ’’im []’’ & ’’im not YOUR []’
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Hmmm just gonna spit this headcanon out in text post form since A. I don't think I could exposit it well enough in image form and B. It's not actually textually/thematically substantiated and I don't like actually staking my stuff on just vibes alone*
But anyway. I'd say it's pretty evident that all the islanders forgot their names, right? King obviously. Because why the hell else would he do that, but also Siffrin No Middle Names No Last Name.
They're 'pretty sure' they've 'always' been 'Just Siffrin' 'as long as they can remember'. It's a pretty cruel twist of the knife to say that they don't even get to keep their birth name as a memento, which is why I'm saying as such.
My utterly unsubstantiated claim is I think it'd be cute to say that Sisyphus *is* the name Siffrin initially picked, assuming the myth of King Sisyphus is recontextualised as idk, just a play or something in the setting. But I like the idea of Siffrin going 'oh shit 🫵 he's just like me fr' at a tortured fictional character long before the irony kicks in.
As for how Sisyphus -> Siffrin. I think that chronic mumbler and emotional doormat Sif just did not correct people who misheard the name during their time travelling, and went through enough places with incompatible phonologies (pronounceable sounds in the language) without ever really writing it down that it just got kinda. Changed until it was unrecognisable, and Siffrin just went with it until the earlier pronunciations slipped out of their swiss-cheese brain. And they just kinda don't remember any of that.
Also, something something the horrid realisation that Siffrin also named themselves after a King. Just not as blatantly.
*(though I think there's something here about Siffrin, a guy from a belief system that seems to thoroughly disincentivise autonomy and self-motivated choice continuously having their hand forced to make changes/choices they don't want but have no choice but to... It's not solid enough to really back this up tbh, but it informs it.)
Anyway.
#theres also something one of my french-speaker friends said about siffrin's official pronounciation being the feminine way to pronounce -in?#which i dont know enough about to really corroborate and theyre busyyyy and havent started the game yet so i cant really ask#im sure someone else has already voiced this easy-to-come-up-with headcanon anyway but just in case nobody has i decided to post it#isat#isat spoilers#in stars and time#isat siffrin#isat loop#i also personally picture sif (and loop especially) being more hostile to the concept of changing themselves after The Encounter#both of them being big grudge-holders and that 'want' to control your own destiny being clearly against how they interpret the universe#as for whether they should be so hostile? probably not! but they appear to be anxious in fear of some kind of divine retribution should#they like. ever even dare to Want. and uh. well. that certainly went well for Loop. not sure they'd be gung-ho to do it again#so Loop being able to go 'oh well it wasn't my REAL name' as a salve for having to make a new identity AGAIN....#while sif is explicitly clinging to it as an anchor for Who They Are If Nothing Else.. they can upset each other and also mirabelle i think#lucabytetalks
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ive been playing the sims with the isat cast. also have the wicked whims mod so theres freaky awesome gay sex happening like 40% of the time. these sims want to FUCKK
#venustxt#the dynamics that are happening are great honestly. im doing sloopis but loop has the jealous trait which means i cant make them poly#i have to turn off cheating-related-jealousy for it to work. which i did. after isafrin flirted in front of loop. so that was an awkward ni#ht. i canonized it as they had a conversation about it. after i was done being annoyed that the jealous trait works the way it does#also sloop AND isaloop fucked before isafrin. even tho isafrin were an official couple first.#AND loop got pregnant. and then immediately got an abortion and announced the pregnancy by basically saying guess what im NOT pregnant anym#re. which ended up making both them and siffrin depressed as hell for a couple days bc of Complex Feelings#im having fun#anyways im gonna try to get siffrin pregnant. might post images because i know that would be a hit with the folks here
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earlier when I said I was normal now while playing isat that was a lie I'm miserable trying to fall asleep. wtf. I'm on some type of shit. in this moment you are loved. friendship is magic and solves anything type of thoughts I have here
#i need to experience that scene again :(((#the last snacks spot before you beat the king hsving tbe friendship quests done for the first time#im so so so sooo normal#usually i mean that in a hell fucking. wow. ighdjfjdkce i hate these guys#but this time im actually so so sad i KNOW it doesnt get better and itll FEEL so DIFFERENT if i do it again in this save#even if nothing changes it wont feel like.... right. ykwim#its not the first time. you(and siffrin) have seen this before#but also it adds a new layer#if i were to go do it again and the game DIDNT change any dialogue(which i doubt) then theres an extra something if both the player and sif#know this isnt going to work its not gonna break the loop#but also#it doesnt matter#because youll do it anyway. because. In This Moment. You Are Loved#it doesnt matter how many times you do it#arrrgh. i need a diagnos8s#isat spoilers#(in the tags but theyre still there)
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