#and im both siffrin and loop
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More ISAT doodles, i'm currently doing a play through with friends right now and finished act 2 a bit ago. I'm not sure what counts as spoilers since the game is still relatively new and gaining popularity so i'll tag for each act.
#in stars and time#isat#isat spoilers#act 2 spoilers#isat act 2 spoilers#lemme know if i need to update my tags#the draws#me and my friends are voice acting for funsies#and im both siffrin and loop#so voice a bit wrecked from monologues but its worth it
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Hi i’m reaching soo hard but.
It’s not a 1-1 match, moreso about the habits? Nervous arm clutch, leaning forward when mad, clasping hands a lot, the smug side lean. Loop shares the most similarities with Siffrin, but I like to think they picked up some habits from the party too (after all they had a looong time to memorize those😁)
#isat#isat loop#isat spoilers#2hats spoilers#listen. hear me out#sorry if someone else pointed this out already#the isa one is funny to me because they have the same tick but very differently#isa does it when he’s nervous or embarassed#loop does it when they’re uncomfortable or feel cornered#odile one is vibes only i looked at their sprites and went. this lean feels familiar. and then looked at hers. sorry if its a stretch😁🙏#Siffrin also does that forward lean. i like to think he picked it up from bonnie but the vice versa is cute too#mira and loop clasp hands very differently but. they both do it a lot#guys please im cooking please no dont go💔#in stars and time#isat odile#isat isabeau#isat mirabelle#isat bonnie
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sometimes everything just sucks real real real bad
#bonnie my beloved perceptive no filter bonnie my fucking beloved#divorce ass fucking ship dynamic. you are upsetting the fucking children.#isat spoilers#isat fanart#isat#in stars and time fanart#in stars and time spoilers#in stars and time#isat bonnie#isat siffrin#isat loop#siffrin#lucabyteart#sifloop#YES THIS GOES IN THE SHIP TAG. DIVORCE DIVORCE DIVORCE#anyway i have a lot of thoughts on loop and bonnie as im sure does everyone. both before and after they learn who they are#i think a lot about how loop has several lines gently reassuring siffrin that bonnie never actually hated them. they've had time to reflect#and while theyve not healthily come to terms with much... they seem to actually have come to understand that one... and yet...#they aren't siffrin anymore now are they?#anyway im off on my travels for the next 2 weeks ! my wips shall stay that way for a while! yes this is a fucked one to leave u with!!!#byeeeee !!! ill be back !!!!#sorry to the claude wip for being stuck in purgatory for like over a month im usually not like this <3#abuse tw#as requested
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[Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations.]
#Isat#sasasap#sasasaap spoilers#sasasaap siffrin#isat siffrin#isat loop#isat spoilers#two hats spoilers#in stars and time#HEEEYYYYYYYY YALLLLL.....#This is a lot bigger than I thought it would be but lmao here you go <3#sorry for how big it is I dont. know how to format this Tumblr wise???#I dont usually do big ass projects like this and then post them#Also if you get the reference youre fucking awesome as hell btw#despite both mira and Isa in frame.. I am not fucking tagging them <3#this is all about them but they are also not part of this so lol sorrryyyyy#also i made a slight mistake but you dont fucking see it so thats all that matters to me#(several mistakes Im ignoring because this took fucking DAYS)#Anyway hope this doesnt take over the dash my apologies ahead of time if it does </3
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Memory
Very much inspired by Infinity Train, thinking about memories always makes me think about the tapes.
I wonder how much of Siffrin's tapes would be static? If it'd hold memories they couldn't actually remember?
It'd be so easy to get stuck in a tape, knowing it has everything you've forgotten but once held dear. (Anyone else thinking abt an ISAT infinity train au or-)
#in stars and time#isat#siffrin isat#isat siffrin#inktober#isatober#sasasaap#loop isat#isat loop#isat spoilers#two hats spoilers#sorry im tagging both of them but i wasnt really sure if ppl would even notice i used Loop's memories so djdjd#yellow's art
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Can loop pls gets lots of hugs
DAY 99: yeas :)
#codacheetah#isat#loop isat#siffrin isat#mirabelle isat#isabeau isat#odile isat#bonnie isat#oh my gyoooooood i locked in and im still so close to timelimit wtf#drawing 6 ppl hugging is both difficult and timeconsuming. rahh#anyways. HUG THAT STAR THEY DESERVE IT :speaking_head:#isat spoilers#maybe#.
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i said in another post i was rping loop in a multifandom rp group and i'm having a lot of fun! so much fun that i made a giant doodle sheet of loop's glitch....that i haven't even gotten to rp yet but am so excited to im getting carried away. whoops
(in the context of the group, think of glitching like in spiderverse, they don't belong in this new world/dimension so their existence rejects it. we can do whatever we want for glitches so i just made loop's that they get their humanity back. yknow. for misery whenever they unglitch and go back to being a star [thumbs up])
i think my favorite here might just be the Go there Go Into the Dark catcrumb edit lmao
#isat spoilers#in stars and time#loop isat#isat loop#isat siffrin#siffrin isat#loops agonies are so much fun to write when siffrins already in the group and like#imagine losing your humanity and guiding another version of you through time loops all while having VERY complicated feelings on him#AND JUST AS YOU DISAPPEAR ON A GOOD NOTE YOU GET ISEKAI'D AND APPARENTLY STARDUST HAS ALREADY BEEN HERE FOR 6 MONTHS#AND HE SAYS THERES NO WAY HOME ON PURPOSE AND YOU JUST GOTTA TWIDDLE YOUR THUMBS they are!!! agonized!!!#blessing and curse that siffrin was already there bc theyre both like 'i kinda hate it here BUT im relieved and upset youre here too'#'because now im not alone but damn i dont want you to hate it here too!'#uuuuuuuugHHHHHH siffrin and loop....their mutual illnesses..... IM ill......
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HYPER SPECIFIC REFERENCE GO-
[id in alt]
#in stars and time#isat#poorly drawn isat#isat siffrin#isat loop#its pertinent that you understand. they are both cheating.#no i will not elaborate on this. figure it out yourself.#im not even going to tag the other guy on account of i dont want to.#good bye#(robots prns are he/him to be clear lmao)
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Am I crazy? Maybe I’ve always been I've become what I’ve hated? Or maybe I never did!
ive been floating around various isat and hatchetfield ideas but this one gripped me and would not fucking let go. hehe. something about loop as the apotheosis makes me ABNORMAL.
#in stars and time#in stars and time fanart#isat#isat fanart#isat spoilers#in stars and time spoilers#siffrin isat#siffrin in stars and time#basil paints#im not 100% happy with this but were all gonna PRETEND okay.#im being more adventurous with posing recently and it makes things look fucky and i will be OKAY with it.#anyways. uh. loop eye jumpscare.#drawing sif with both eyes is SO strange it feels viscerally wrong
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puts ur funny little time loopers in the animal paint game
#tak does draws#in stars and time#isat#isat spoilers#isat act 6 secret encounter spoilers#isat a6se spoilers#siffrin#isat siffrin#loop#isat loop#'is this a chicory a colorful tale au mal' yeah lmao#i have been possessed by the whimsies. and games i like. soim stapling them together#theyre both fennec foxes and look kind of similar because. yknow. twohats.#but cantaloupe wouldve been the wielder before fritter and was like. im imagining kind of had their hand forced in giving it up to him#but i havent hashed everything out yet SO . LMAO
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okay .. take two !!!
+ bonus doodles
#i !!!! like this design a lot more#kinda worried abt the cloak …. but !!!#what do we think ………..#oh. wait. also#-> tried to combine the v shape and the cloak#figured out how to incorporate the bottom half wing like design#they have tails !!! they like to sometimes pretend it’s like a bird#(loop running around bc swish swish flowy) (bats their eyelash) am i not the prettiest bird youve ever seen#also while the leg straps for knife was cool#i feel they. while it wouldd be easier to maybe access#anyone could take it !!! the way it was !!!!#into the holster and belt you go#OH and and#the little chains and pendants dangling from the belt ?? those are like keychains from all the things that remind them of their journeys#OH and they’re wearing. kind of leggings ??? for better agility#im trying not to overdo everything. so that it’s not so cluttered#but that. also Is this point. as fun as this outfit is most of it is just loop taking clothing items they first see and running off#“okay rogue time. i can do rogue.” tthey are a mess <3#they’re kinda in that stage of. between siffrin and figuring out who They are now after all of that. clinging slightly while also changing#(they absolutely did steal those little pins from sif btw <3) they thought it would be funny to see how long it took for him to notice. and#then it just stuck.#“why is loop okay with the cloak now?” bc !!! its not a one to one. and also. sif here found loop at possibly the worst spiral ever#it Would have brought equal comfort as it did discomfort if they wore both the hat and cloak then. and (their words) it would be much easier#to tell which siffrin was who !!!!!!!!!!#agh .. okay#lantern’s art corner#isat spoilers#isat
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art i did for my newest chapter of my fic, An Old You, A New You!! :3
#in stars and time#in stars and time spoilers#isat spoilers#twohats spoilers#isat loop#isat siffrin#isat isabeau#isat mirabelle#isat bonnie#minhmy art#aoyany fic art#i worked so hard on these and im rly proud of them all i can't pick a favorite but also. the last one is my favorite#i love drawing i love writing i love combining both
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I can’t stop thinking about Loop. Imagine doing everything, anything, to get out of a traumatic situation but the price is you. Your body is gone, your name is gone, your family doesn’t recognize you, you feel like most of your memories of them are gone too anyway. Suddenly you’re denied your identity. It’s like YOU never existed… and someone else took your place. You, whose biggest fears are forgetting and being forgotten in turn. You, who’s hesitant to change and now you’re forced to. You can’t even really blame anyone else because you did get your wish, right?
It’s explained clearly in the game, but the implications of it just hit me extra hard sometimes. Siffrin is as much of a study of Loop as Loop is of Siffrin. They share(d) their fears too so mal du pays words essentially becoming the truth to Loop is just… 🪨🪨🪨🙁🙁🙁💥💥💥💥
What do you do when all you have is ripped from you, all your worst fears come true, and youre forced to just… come to terms with it?
#isat spoilers#isat loop#2hats spoilers#shaking you by the shoulders#i love siffrin and loop so much#’’wkb’’ consider: i am new and also stupid#yes ive KNOWN but i didint really GET it yk? like how horrifying losing you self is#they make me die#postgame loop makes it hit extra hard bc ppl are partially defined by their experiences#the longer siffrin and loop exist as separate the more they diverge#that must be TERRIFYING. to an extent to both of them#of course they’ll always have many similarities as they started as the same person but like#loop is just despair au siffrin#<- specifying postgame fics that explore loops identity bc canon had them fade out#which i love btw delightful angst i love everyones takes on loop#in stars and time#isat#i think genuinely in Loop’s shoes as someone who’s also hesitant to change: if I didn’t cry 24/7#i’d be clinging into who i was and still want to be in some ways. but as i’d heal i’d probably want to be distinct#like im me and always will be me but i want what i experienced to not be a footnote. i dont want to be a mirror#’’i am who that family loved but im also someone new’’ yk? its so hard to battle with those two opposites of ’’im []’’ & ’’im not YOUR []’
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Hmmm just gonna spit this headcanon out in text post form since A. I don't think I could exposit it well enough in image form and B. It's not actually textually/thematically substantiated and I don't like actually staking my stuff on just vibes alone*
But anyway. I'd say it's pretty evident that all the islanders forgot their names, right? King obviously. Because why the hell else would he do that, but also Siffrin No Middle Names No Last Name.
They're 'pretty sure' they've 'always' been 'Just Siffrin' 'as long as they can remember'. It's a pretty cruel twist of the knife to say that they don't even get to keep their birth name as a memento, which is why I'm saying as such.
My utterly unsubstantiated claim is I think it'd be cute to say that Sisyphus *is* the name Siffrin initially picked, assuming the myth of King Sisyphus is recontextualised as idk, just a play or something in the setting. But I like the idea of Siffrin going 'oh shit 🫵 he's just like me fr' at a tortured fictional character long before the irony kicks in.
As for how Sisyphus -> Siffrin. I think that chronic mumbler and emotional doormat Sif just did not correct people who misheard the name during their time travelling, and went through enough places with incompatible phonologies (pronounceable sounds in the language) without ever really writing it down that it just got kinda. Changed until it was unrecognisable, and Siffrin just went with it until the earlier pronunciations slipped out of their swiss-cheese brain. And they just kinda don't remember any of that.
Also, something something the horrid realisation that Siffrin also named themselves after a King. Just not as blatantly.
*(though I think there's something here about Siffrin, a guy from a belief system that seems to thoroughly disincentivise autonomy and self-motivated choice continuously having their hand forced to make changes/choices they don't want but have no choice but to... It's not solid enough to really back this up tbh, but it informs it.)
Anyway.
#theres also something one of my french-speaker friends said about siffrin's official pronounciation being the feminine way to pronounce -in?#which i dont know enough about to really corroborate and theyre busyyyy and havent started the game yet so i cant really ask#im sure someone else has already voiced this easy-to-come-up-with headcanon anyway but just in case nobody has i decided to post it#isat#isat spoilers#in stars and time#isat siffrin#isat loop#i also personally picture sif (and loop especially) being more hostile to the concept of changing themselves after The Encounter#both of them being big grudge-holders and that 'want' to control your own destiny being clearly against how they interpret the universe#as for whether they should be so hostile? probably not! but they appear to be anxious in fear of some kind of divine retribution should#they like. ever even dare to Want. and uh. well. that certainly went well for Loop. not sure they'd be gung-ho to do it again#so Loop being able to go 'oh well it wasn't my REAL name' as a salve for having to make a new identity AGAIN....#while sif is explicitly clinging to it as an anchor for Who They Are If Nothing Else.. they can upset each other and also mirabelle i think#lucabytetalks
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okay so its going to be impossible for me to write a full post about isat until after my 2nd playthrough and i have a bunch of notes, but i WILL be insane about how the senses are depicted, especially things siffrin smells, tastes and sees.
(spoilers for the whole game but when i get to act 4/5 ill put it under a cut)
because it starts off normal. everything that's experienced for the first couple of loops is alright, and that's because siffrin's mental state is still mostly the same as when they went into the house for the first time with the squad.
until the text starts commenting on little things, like how the cookies are getting old to the malanga fritters not being exactly the same as how sif is trying to remember, to how whenever they get to the end and talk to the head housemaiden how they smell burnt sugar just before looping back to the start.
the most jarring is the sight. slowly, throughout all the loops you start seeing an image of siffrin standing somewhere, such as in a hallway, before vanishing, and it gets a bit more common the more loops you've been through. it becomes more obvious the more things taste less like anything (and the more the game comments on how siffrin's stomach feels) and how easy it is to miss something new someone says (because you and siffrin are speeding through everything you hear), how quickly his mental state is declining.
(now spoilers for acts 4 and 5 because thats when it gets Real)
during act 4 it's possible (for some ungodly reason), when talking to bonnie at least for the first time in a loop, for the music to cut off and their sprite suddenly be half covered in black. because. why not. (this happened the second time in act 4 i talked to bonnie in dormont and i jumped badly)
the most probable explanation for seeing this is because of how the last moments in act 3 are of bonnie literally being crushed by the king's hand. probably siffrin remembering what happened and it starting to overlay in his vision.
it's probably also why you see other sifs throughout the castle, especially the further along you go. either he's seeing vestiges of past loops, or hallucinating. probably both. their mental state is getting more and more worse.
act 5 shows this even more, with blacked out sprites of the other characters and visions of them in places such as the break rooms, or getting their dialogue when interacting with objects despite siffrin being completely alone in their rampage throughout the castle. most notable is the mirror room dialogue.
how the initial picture you see during act 5 is with the whole family, until you view it and siffrin is completely alone. how the memories of the past loops are overlaying with the current one to the point where his senses are starting to become more unreliable.
during act 5 as well if you interact with any candles they smell sweet. before siffrin either didnt smell anything or it was something he didnt really know.
anyway. siffrin's own senses becoming unreliable reflecting his own deteriorating mental state is a brilliant touch to add to the horror in the story. (even without talking about how his relationship with touch is).
postgame our man absolutely would not be able to trust his sense with how the past looping affected his perception of everything around them.
#lemon time#isat spoilers#in stars and time#WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. FINALLY MADE AN ACTUAL POST ABOUT SOME THOUGHTS.#anyway. still trying to figure out if the ghost siffrins are glitches from past loops or hallucinations or both.#im leaning towards both.#i dont think i even need to mention how the sense of touch plays into the story. all That speaks for itself#i didnt even mention how the Acting plays into all that.#welp. right time to draw more frins.
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ive been playing the sims with the isat cast. also have the wicked whims mod so theres freaky awesome gay sex happening like 40% of the time. these sims want to FUCKK
#venustxt#the dynamics that are happening are great honestly. im doing sloopis but loop has the jealous trait which means i cant make them poly#i have to turn off cheating-related-jealousy for it to work. which i did. after isafrin flirted in front of loop. so that was an awkward ni#ht. i canonized it as they had a conversation about it. after i was done being annoyed that the jealous trait works the way it does#also sloop AND isaloop fucked before isafrin. even tho isafrin were an official couple first.#AND loop got pregnant. and then immediately got an abortion and announced the pregnancy by basically saying guess what im NOT pregnant anym#re. which ended up making both them and siffrin depressed as hell for a couple days bc of Complex Feelings#im having fun#anyways im gonna try to get siffrin pregnant. might post images because i know that would be a hit with the folks here
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