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sobasluuurp · 7 months ago

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Ok. About Tenko.

I understand why so many people are angry that he's dead. I really do. I would've loved for him to live as well. I cried when he died.

However.

Just because he's dead doesn't mean his character has been handled poorly. In fact, all things considered, this ending (even though it makes me real fucking sad) makes the most sense for both his character and his story. Let me explain.

First and foremost, there's the matter of Shigaraki's characterization and arc. It goes without saying, but he's an angry, used, and abused child who grew up into an adult who wants nothing more than for everything to end. His goals have always been destructive to an extreme and honestly, the logical end to "let's destroy it all" is LITERALLY everything, including himself. He's also had absolutely zero agency since the moment his parents even thought of conceiving him, and has been struggling to become his own person since the beginning of his arc. He, against his abuser, who covets immortality and eternity.

What better a way for a person such as himself to assert his agency is there than to go out the way he did? To shift his focus away from the faceless masses and to the (similarly faceless, lol) abuser who caused his pain in the first place? To destroy the control AFO has held over him and prove to him that he was always his own person? To say, this is who you molded me into. And because I am who I am, I will now kill you, and take myself down with you, and be glad for it.

(and in the process, destroy the worldview AFO showed us in the Star and Stripe arc, that the ones who survive are the victors. AFO has completely and eternally lost, but Shigaraki is victorious to his last.)

It's his first moment of complete agency in his life -- acting entirely against anyone else's wishes for himself or his actions. And he uses it to do the one thing he's been itching for his whole life -- to destroy the source of his pain.

It's a negative character arc, in a way. It's not what any of us would've wanted for him. In a perfect world, he would be able to recover and readjust, building a life for himself and his found family in peace. He'd be able to experience life fully for the first time, and see that the world is not so bleak after all.

(I'm choking up just thinking about what's been lost. It's a fucking tragedy.)

But not every character arc gets to end happily. Sometimes people do slip through the cracks. That's always been what Shigaraki's character is about.

....and what every other member of the League's characters have been about.

Because here's the thing. The story of Shigaraki's life and death would be incomplete without his relationship to his found family. He's their leader. Their symbol. Their All Might.

Shigaraki's death is not the grimdark, fuck-the-audience, senseless kind of tragedy. He is a martyr, yes, but the people he stood for will in all likelihood survive. He died for the League. His life -- his existence -- brought them together, gave them purpose, and showed them a bright future. It is my steadfast belief that he will be the only death among the main villains. Because this is a story about saving to win, after all. And given that My Hero doesn't like to kill characters off too often and each one of them still has a path to recovery, I think it's a safe assumption to make. Especially since (especially in Toya's and Toga's cases) each of them had a moment of reconciliation at the end of their fights -- the kind of thing that can help them move forward.

And to be honest, we've known for a very, very long time that BNHA is the kind of anime that likes to turn old cliches on their heads. Kacchan did not become a villain during Kamino. La Brava's literal power of love was not enough to win the battle. Deku fought tirelessly to talk-no-jutsu Shigaraki into redemption, and while he did get through to him, he still couldn't save him after everything that happened. It's nuanced and messy in a way that I've come to expect from BNHA.

So yea, Shigaraki died. But Shigaraki also lived. Despite everything that AFO and Kotoro wanted from him (despite the fact that he was never meant to really be alive in the first place), he lived on his own terms and fought so that the people he cared about would be seen. Because he lived, the old world was destroyed, and from his ashes, a better one can be built. He achieved everything that no one thought he could, and reclaimed his life in the process. What better ending could you ask for a tragic character?

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satancopilotsmytardis · 4 months ago

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I'm not sure if you're still doing the fact-au asks still, but the guided masturbation fic has me in a chokehold to this day. So I was thinking about something along those lines but in a stalker au? Like Dabi who doesn't have any experience in sex (for whatever reason) develops a crush on shigaraki, can't be normal about it, kidnaps him, only to find out shigaraki is worse and has also been stalking him. Because he can't be normal about a crush either.

Stalker 4 Stalker Au? Yummy! But I prefer one of them to actually be a victim/other flavor of crazy! I actually did stalker/yandere for the last round of 5 Fact AUs! It's going to become a 101 kink prompt when I have the chance. The long and short of that one is that Dabi stalks Shigaraki and breaks in to be creepy, gets caught, and Shig is a little more yandere and locks him up down in the basement and turns him into a 1950's housewife sub, which Dabi is happy to become. But this is a dynamic I can have fun with in another flavor so how about Stalker/Manipulator instead?:

Dabi gets obsessed with Shigaraki after his debut at UA. He wants to know everything about the guy who attacked his brother, who rocked All Might and left such a mark that the hero world is scrambling. He goes and finds him, and sees him being treated by the doctor who made that horrible hospital full of puppets and decides he absolutely can't let that stand. He doesn't want his new idol to end up being as empty and used up as the kids he burned. So, he kidnaps him.

Dabi was fully off the radar and Shigaraki is still out of commission because of the gunshots when it happens, leaving AFO scratching his head about where his fucking successor went. In the meantime, Dabi is so happy to have Shigaraki near. He makes him wear gloves all the time because 'he's not stupid', but he talks to him constantly, telling him about his goals and who he is, how he wants to destroy heroes just like Shigaraki does. He takes care of him and takes a lot of arson jobs and robs places that Shigaraki points him towards so that he can get the money he needs to ensure that Shig has better medical care than he ever bothered procuring for himself.

Shigaraki is not thrilled about this situation, of course, but Dabi is just a crazy villain who wants to do what he wants to do. He can work with that. And AFO taught him how to find people's pressure points and use them to break his targets. So he leans into the conversations with Dabi, watching him get all starry-eyed and leaning in closer to him when they're talking. The first time Dabi blushes when he says that he's good to talk to, Tomura immediately decides to go for the seduction angle.

He leans in hard. He's telling Dabi how beautiful his eyes are, telling him what a nice voice he has, praising him for how well he's survived all of this, hyping him up and agreeing that he has what it takes to show the world how bad Endeavor is. And one night, Shigaraki asks if he can kiss Dabi. Dabi is bright red and timid when he nods. Tomura kisses him, super slow and soft at first, but he deepens it and tells Dabi how good he tastes and Dabi gets even more confused and embarrassed because he's hard and he's never been hard while awake before (coma all through puberty, too much pain to trust anyone to touch him afterwards, no one interested anyway, and he didn't even really get what he was missing because of the knowledge gap).

Tomura tells him how to take care of himself, and keeps things very sweet with Dabi, and Dabi is absolutely head over heels for Tomura, doing anything he asks-- except letting him go, because he doesn't want to be alone again 🥺. Tomura tells him that's okay. He wants to stay with Dabi, and he'll be happy how things are until he is ready to trust him. Dabi timidly asks how he can make Tomura feel as good as he helped Dabi feel, and he teaches him how to suck him off, he gets Dabi to lengthen his cuffs so he can finger him open and even eats him out, and he dangles the possibility of sex in front of Dabi. He calls it 'making love' because he wants to show Dabi how much he cares about him now, and Dabi keeps trying to say he's smarter than that, that he won't fall for things, but he still takes Tomura to bed, and Tomura knows how to get out of handcuffs, he always has. He was just curious about this situation, and he still fucks Dabi, still slips the cuffs and could kill him and escape, but, well. Being away AFO made it very obvious that he was using his own manipulation tactics on him, and Dabi is such a good and loyal pet, doing anything he asks if he just gets a little positive reinforcement. Tomura can work with that.

#tanco speaks #ask #asks #5 fact au 2 electric boogaloo

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rokiyuu · 5 months ago

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14 Days of MHA - Day 12 (August 3rd)

Humor

Read it as chaotic as possible and imagine Midoriya repeating to his classmates everything the vestiges say (I'm not sure about this part) This ended up being long, even so, enjoy!

Class 1-A gets the opportunity to asks questions however, the vestiges can choose to abstain from answering.

Ashido: You were heroes, right? How were your heroes costumes?

Shinomori: Simply put, dress to camouflage with the environment. The less you stand out the better.

Ashido: You call that an answer?

Mineta: where the gals of the Dawn of Quirks era, irresistible babes?

Bruce: I doubt that was the first thought when crossing paths, kid.

Mineta: I want the juicy details, don't just tell me that!

Asui: You won't change, won't you Mineta.

Aoyama: Was is scary when you found about your quirk?

Yoichi: The society was in chaos and people with meta abilities were seen as monsters.

Hagakure: Was the luminescent baby the first person born with a quirk?

Vestiges: ...

Midoriya: That's ...

Iida: We are sorry if by any chance we offended any of you.

Bakugou: Tch... Stop beeing so considerate Prez, dammit. And stop asking stupid questions you all, we need to get serious and ask about details that allow us to defeat that bastard All For One.

Sero: What was that Bakugou? Aren't you feeling so confident about winning?

Bakugou: Of course we are gonna win and kick that bastard's ass.

Iida: Bakugou mind your language, if you would. Of course we are achieving a complete victory, right? On that note, does All For One has allies or it is just him using people, is there a way to outsmart him?

Yoichi: I will answer that. My brother told me that the luminescent baby was the first person recorded to be born with a quirk. He only views people as toys and games. His goal is to become the Demond Lord, I'm sorry.

Kirishima: Don't apologize dude.

Kaminari: Yeah. We gotta throw Bakugou at him, he will find a way to draw the Demond Lord nuts for sure.

Iida: That might actually work. Just don't let your temper get the best of you Bakugou.

Bakugou: Shut up Prez! Very well then. Here goes my question. Why did Shigaraki said in Jaku, his father told him heroes are people who hurt their own families only to help complete strangers?

Nana: I was trying to protect him because my husband got killed and I didn't want the same fate for him.

Bakugou: Hate to broke it into you but you utterly failed in protecting him.

Iida: Bakugou ...

Bruce: This one is a sassy kid.

Todoroki: Can I ask something related? You where All Might mentor, right?

Kudou: All For One seized the chance, that is what he does.

Midoriya: Kacchan, I will destroy that mass of hatred.

Ojiro: How do you plan to do that?

Todoroki: Will you help Midoriya in his decision?

Nana: If Tenko still can be saved...

Kudou: ... If that is the only way to end this.

* Mist Might flickers in agreement *

Iida: We deeply appreciate your cooperation.

Jirou: Which music did you like?

En: The one your class sang during the Cultural Festival. Was called "Hero too" I believe.

Kaminari: Did you see that? Jirou went all out, and we even got Kacchan to participate. How were your pals?

Bruce: Not as noisy as yours. We had not the luxury to share that much information with each other.

Sero: How did you find out about One For All?

Bruce: Leader?

Kudou: We will not elaborate.

* Bruce sighs *

Uraraka: Did you witnessed all the Sports Festival? Which was your favorite fight?

Shinomori: Yes. Obviously yours.

Yaoyorozu: My participation there was shameful.

Satou: Is there any food you would like to try?

Yoichi: All of it. I happily could die of an indigestion again.

Asui: What did you do on your free time?

Banjo: Swinging here and there, there were not that much restrictions back in the day, besides No one could beat Blackwhip.

Tokoyami: Did you ever have trouble controlling your quirk?

Banjo: I dare say that I didn't care about infrastructure collateral damage.

Kouda: Is there an animal that scares you?

Yoichi: Rats. They nearly ate us.

Class 1-A: ...

Vestiges: ...

Jirou: Yuck! not another word.

Shouji: Do you have any good memory?

Banjo: Scaring Shinomori.

Shinomori: Why you came up with that?

Kudou: Yeah. But the question has already been answered.

Hagakure: But more that one answered Todoroki's.

Ashido: Exactly.

Iida: Technically they can choose not to answer.

Bakugou: Which side are you, Prez?

Yaoyorozu: With kind of life did you enjoy?

Nana: A normal life I would say.

Midoriya: First, can you tell us more about Capitan Hero?

Todoroki: Midoriya, who is that?

Midoriya: A hero.

Uraraka: Deku has to know everything about heroes.

Asui: If it's OK, let's hear that story after finishing this.

* Yoichi suddenly exited *

Yoichi: My pleasure.

Ojiro: What was your greatest possession?

Bruce: My bandana.

Kirishima: Do you consider yourselves manly?

Kudou: What the hell does that means? No, I don't.

Kirishima: Because you admit that, you are a manly dude, I know it.

Bruce: Leader, if he thinks of you as manly, it's a good thing.

Kudou: Whatever.

All Might: I am here! What are you kids doing?

Midoriya: We were asking questions to the vestiges. They have granted us their full support now.

Bakugou: Well except that men—

* Iida chopped him in the head *

Iida: Would you like to ask them a question as well, All Might?

All Might: No need for that, Tsukauchi and I already are planning a strategy. If fact I've come to inform you kids that I plan to participate in this fight as we must defeat All Fo—

Bakugou: We know that. Are you gonna ask the question or not? I'm starving... Remember we are gonna achieve a complete victory.

All Might: Bakugou, kid...

* Mist Might nodes in agreement *

#14DaysofMHA #Day 12 #Class 1-A #ofa vestiges #questions #questions time #bnha manga spoilers

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villainsandvictimsalliance · 2 years ago

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Let's talk about the insane idea promoted by the hero society that self-sacrificing and sadness is better than hurting others and feeling rage. Or in other words, how dying for other and repressing your feelings even if they destroy you is better than becoming violent and letting your rage affect the course of the daily basis.

For the hero society, submissive individuals were better. Depressed as in being unable to act was better. Passive behavior was better. It's easier to feel pity and hold some mourning for the victims before moving on as if nothing happened.

Take Deku. If he had died by suicide only a few would care. He was an unimportant quirkless kid with no real potential to be a hero. Or if he had died saving Bakugo he would have become a martyr, a quirkless kid who got to be a hero for a day before tragically dying. The end.

That is why Aizawa is mad with All Might when he sees Deku. He could have died in the UA entrance test, it was impressive but what about Deku's life. That's also what Recovery Girl told All Might in the UA Sport Festival. That's what Deku needed to learn when he started using kicks instead of punches. Self-sacrificing shouldn't be idolized by the hero society. Ultimately, it is murder in the hands of the authorities who enforce such idea.

Take the League of Villains.

Ugly victims don't get help.

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Ask Tenko. Walking alone on a busy street, with blood on his hands and eyes totally lost. No one helped him. He was not a cute kid crying like Eri, he was monstrous like. His accident was not one caused by a victim. It was the abuse of his father and tje unfortunate awakening of his quirk that ended with him murdering his entire family.

If he had stayed sitting silently, unable to weep or talk or cry, he would have died and no one would have known. Society would be happy because there's no Shigaraki Tomura, right?

Touya died on a forest fire and life moved on. His dad became even more abusive and reached the number one spot on the hero charts. Like the past never happened.

Toga's neglected childhood pushed her to the point she exploded and drank the blood of someone, but because she was already a monster like looking child, she wad regarded as a danger and his parents erased her presence from their house. If she had died on the streets or gotten captured, people would just think "good, one less psycho, we can keep going with our days".

Visually, it's easier to sympathize with a crying victim full of sadness and wounds. Some animal instinct of who knows. I don't. BUT it's way harder to sympathize with someone who shows their hurt by being very disruptive, loud, angry, violent. Especially if they can't cry, singe people equals crying to regret or pain. If someone is unable to cry, there must be something wrong with them.

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The League of Villains goal in the narrative at the beginning of bnha is less Stain-like (there are a few bad apples in the basket we need to purge and everything will be good again) and more of Shigaraki's own ideology: society is rotten to the bone, even the greatest of heroes is corrupted and the cycle of violence is being used by the hero society as an excuse to control the public.

Funny. It was not a lie. With Lady Nagant's story and even with Hawk's we were witnesses of how the hero society was indeed rotten. And we saw a few paragraphs above why All Might was part of the corruption, if with good intentions, but still an important part of it.

There are two main responses to trauma in bnha. The hero society prefers the one that doesn't make them look bad.

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So, what's the kick?

What happened with the League of Villains would have happened eventually with any other group of individuals. It was a natural reaction to a failed system, one AFO took advantage of in order to further his plans.

There was the Meta Liberation Army, where many or his members were pro-heroes btw. There was the situation with Overhaul and the whole issue with the quirk repressing drug. You had Aoyama, the hospital full of kids Touya woke up to, etc.

In order for a change to happen, a reactive factor was needed. Individuals who were not afraid to threat the commodities of the population, their peace of mind, people willing to ne disturbing and people able to shake the hero society foundations. It's not coincidence that those individuals were the same victims who, after being passive for so long, decided peace was not an option.

Am I justifying the actions of the League and blaming everything on the heroes ? No, I'm not.

Killing is killing. Murder is murder. We're not going machiavelli on here and saying they had no other choice (both heroes and villains).

What I'm saying is that both sides were equally right and wrong. Many heroes and villains got used by bigger players in the game. Ultimately the fight started being between the institutions of power around the world and AFO. In Japan, it was the Hero Commission.

Like in any other war, many heroes and villains killed each other thinking it was the right thing to do in order to help society reach higher ground, get better, heal, be safe, whatever. Brainwashed for sure, loyal to a cause that's not loyal to them.

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The kick is in balance.

You can't take the blame of other actions and punish yourself for it. You can't make others responsible of your own actions either. You shouldn't be putting your life above others and you shouldn't be putting their lives below you.

Learning to separate the responsibilities, to notice the shades in which anger and sadness mix, to be able to say "we all matter equally" and know it means a victim can be an abuser too and deserves help as much as they should be hold accountable for. These are the struggles of bnha.

Good communication to avoid mindless violence.

There's where Deku and Tomura meet, in the middle of those lines. There's where Shoto and Dabi meet, where Toga and Ochako meet.

The Messiahs vs The Judas, assigned a role to play by society, either die or be killed tragically. The moment they can shed of those roles and see each other as human beings, that's the moment things will start changing for good.

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animeyanderelover · 2 years ago

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Maybe some Hero Au Shigaraki hcs? :3

It's fun to reverse roles from villains and heroes. By the way, there is a whole backstory I made up for him. It's tragic so prepare yourself.

Tw: Yandere themes, unhealthy mindset, unhealthy relationship, possessive behavior, obsession, stalking, overprotective behavior, paranoia, clinginess, abduction, mentions of past abuse because of his father, the committee being as corrupted as ever

Hero Shigaraki AU

✋Even against the vehement wishes and fear installed by his father, Tenko doesn't give up on his dream to become a hero. Maybe that is because Nao and Hana finally started standing up against Kotaro and defended the boy. When his quirk Decay awakes for the first time and he accidentally disintegrates whatever he is holding, Tenko panics and goes as far as isolating himself. He's terrified that he might accidentally kill his family and the increased amount of stress only worsens his allergy since he starts scratching himself a lot more to the point where he starts bleeding a bit. His father might even be disgusted when he realizes what his son's quirk can do, is against letting other family members near Tenko out of fear that he could kill them.

✋Meals are delievered in front of his door though he barely touches it and sometimes he accidentally destroys the plates or the fork when he grabs it with all five of his fingers. When he discovers that he seems to be able to touch everything as long as he doesn't use five fingers, he puts it to use though he's still against letting other family members see him. Hana cries whenever she stands in front of his door and doesn't let her in, his grandparents bring him snacks and drinks and remind him that he has to eat to grow into a healthy young man and Nao begs him to let her see him. Kotaro seems to be the only one who doesn't come, mainly because he just stares silently at the door whenever he comes. His feelings are conflicted and Nao gets in huge arguments with him because he doesn't give his child any support.

✋Eventually Nao decides to ask the committee for help, against her better judgement because she doesn't know who else could help her son. She's desperate by now, wants to help her beloved son. When they hear the problem, they seem to become interested in Tenko, ask her to bring him over so they can have a medical checkup on him. Initially Tenko refuses to leave and go to see them, he thinks of himself by now as some sort of monster and is far too fragile to face the possible disgust of others. Poor boy already believes that his father hates him. It takes Nao, Hana and his grandparents to convince him to go. He looks miserable with his pale and frightened features, his hair unbrushed and marks of his fingernails on his skin.

✋Hides behind his mother when she brings him over and he'd like to cling to her but knows that this wouldn't end good. Tenko keeps his head low the entire time, only speaks up when those people ask him a question. Those adults are sickenly sweet to him as they do their examination on him and he's terrified when they demand him to show them his quirk in action. His hands are shaking and tears are in his eyes yet he's pushed to active it. He spends hours in there as they force him through numerous tests to determine his quirk as good as possible. By the end of the day someone from the committee approaches Nao and Tenko, asks in a expecting tone if they would come soon again. Nao, realizing how terrified her son is, hesitates greatly until they say that they could find a solution to his problem which would allow him to touch people normally. Something that awakes hope inside of Tenko which might have been their goal all along.

✋Tenko starts spending most of his time in facilities where doctors do their tests on him and spectaculate how they can nullify his quirk. Nao seemingly turns overprotective, coddles her son and makes a fuss as soon as he looks like he's sad. Hana tries to cheer him up by getting her hand on candy he likes or drawing pictures for him, his grandparents tell him stories and only from Kotaro he still receives silence. This all doesn't sit well with him, the people in higher positions all of a sudden so interested in his son and he has a nagging suspicion what their end goal might be.

✋Eventually the day arrives where he finally gets rewarded with gloves that nullify his quirk and the first time he is able to grab something completely without it turning to dust he breaks out in tears and thanks the people in the facility endlessly, together with his mother who smothers him in a hug. Grows insanely clingy once he knows that he can touch his mother again, already glued to her hip. Both want to go home before suddenly a woman dressed in a suit asks for one last meeting to talk everything over, her eyes staring at Tenko with a keen interest.

✋Kotaro acknowledges the fact that his son can finally live a semi-normal life, is even glad about it but freezes when his wife tells him about the last meeting. They shouldn't have any business anymore and he's extremely pissed, tells her in a strict tone to not go yet Nao refuses. She has a bad feeling herself but would feel bad after all those people have done for her son and she isn't about to express her anger against Kotaro. He's done nothing for his son, he has no right to talk like he knows what's best for his son. Hana forced her brother into a long session of playing games and spending time together since it's been months and Tenko gladly tags along.

✋The bad feeling of his parents come true when the man in the office, someone who works in a high position in the committe, asks if Tenko would be interested in becoming a hero. Sure, his quirk is nullified as long as he wears gloves but they believe if he would learn to properly control his powers he might not even need them anymore and could save a lot of people. He's interested in becoming a hero as well, isn't he? Truth is, the people in the government are unwilling to leave the boy alone. His quirk is powerful and they would feel safer if they could keep an eye on him since it's devastating to imagine what would happen if he would stray from his path. Nao bristles against the thought initially but Tenko is silent as he thinks it through. It's been his dream to become a hero and he would wish to control his quirk fully at one point.

✋With enough gaslighting and manipulation he agrees himself since he wants to control his ability to not give anyone more troubles. His father is beyond mad when he hears about it from Nao, cusses the government and grabs Tenko harshly, telling him to instantly reject. The boy is terrified but His mother stands up for him, snaps when he sees how Kotaro treats his son and the threat of a divorce and taking the children under her custody leaves her lips which shocks the man. It's not even an empty threat, she's serious and the government would surely support her since they want Tenko.

✋I imagine him to be a lot like Izuku during his process of becoming a hero. He's more on the shy and insecure side, easily to amaze whenever and initally naive and innocent before turning more mature. The government treats him personally, deeming a school for heroes as unfitting. They probably reach out for a hero with a similar quirk so they can teach the boy how to properly use his quirk. They're extremely harsh and control his life afterwards. He rarely gets to see his family even if his mum and sister call him as often as possible and push him beyond human limits. He often begs to be allowed to go to a school like the U.A but his wishes are usually turned down as they explain coldly to him why their training is fit for him becoming a hero. The protests of his family fall on deaf ears.

✋He's introduced as a hero as soon as he's reached a certain age and has managed to control his quirk enough to finally be able to touch things with his bare hands. Works directly for the government who keeps him on a tight leash and by now he has a second name of sorts, Tomura Shigaraki. Tenko is sort of desperate to prove himself to the public since he still struggles to accept his quirk. He's undergone harsh training so he's without a doubt successful in taking down villains but the public has mixed opinions about him exactly because his power is terrifying. He pushes through though because he's resigned himself to this life and is by now aware that the government won't let him leave, not without doing something at least. His sole pillar is his family minus his father. Ever since he started his training as a hero, both rarely talk with each other.

✋It's astonishingly easy for him to become infatuated with his darling since they're witty, kind and don't mind him and his quirk. They're even a huge fan of his as they confess but treat him like a normal human being. Shigaraki isn't the best when it comes to conversing with others since he's more shy and his social skills aren't the best yet you don't get discouraged but aren't pushy either. He stares at you and even after you're long gone he doesn't move his eyes away. He's never had an interaction like this before and longs for something more the following days, especially with you. It's sort of embarrassing for him to realize that he already feels so strongly about you after one meeting but something just immediately sparked inside of him.

✋The second time he meets you, he wants to greet you but his words get stuck in his throat and instead he hides and watches you going about your daily life. His heart pounds in his chest and his hands are clampy because he's so nervous. His mind scolds him to just go ever and greet you but his body won't move. He's so nervous! It isn't until you suddenly turn around, the feeling of someone staring at you bugging you. You shortly catch his gaze before he quickly hides, heartbeat increasing and his face heating up out of shock and embarrassment. You just saw him staring at you like some sort of creep! When you suddenly appear behind him, his soul nearly leaves his body and he tries to come up with an excuse to why he was just staring at you but ends up stammering instead incoherent apologies. You just laugh it off and invite him to walk a bit with you since it isn't everyday you meet a hero like him, end up dragging him along when he's unable to answer. Really though, Tenko is happy.

✋You're so precious and he feels immensely protective, finds himself often wandering around the district you live in. The hero lingers near you a lot since he feels almost some sort of seperation anxiety when he doesn't see you. It's no secret that he gets attached fast and falls hard yet is too shy and nervous to confess. You get the sign that he wants to spend time with you when you meet him randomly and gladly invite him over to your house before someone spots him. It's adorable in your opinion how soft-spoken and bashful someone like him who fights villains really is. It's good to know that heroes are just people as well. It takes him a huge chunk of courage before he asks for your number, his face burning red when he does so. Always the first one to inform you when a villain attack has been reported and begs you to stay away. Often texts you how you are and if something happened and if you two want to meet. Your reply that you'd gladly hang out with him never fails to make his heart beat faster.

✋Nao and Hana notice that he radiates of more happiness than usually, his gaze distant and dreamingly and both women know exactly what happened. Hana teases him and asks who the lucky person is whilst Nao is exuberant with joy, tells her son that he should bring you over as soon as possible so she can meet you and willing to bring you two together. Her boy opens up about his struggles to confess since his nerves give up on him whenever he's around you and both her and his sister are willing to help him and give him advice. When he finally asks you out on a date and confesses to you, he's a nervous and bashful mess. He's stuttering, you fear steam will come out of his ears and his gaze barely manages to hold yours as his heart feels like it'll give up on him by looking into your gorgeous eyes. The silence that follows makes him anxious and he already thinks that you don't like him before you start smiling and admit that you've liked him for a while now as well. He could die out of happiness then and there.

✋Protective and possessive, especially since he works under the committee. The hero fears that they might interfere with the relationship and is unwilling to lose someone as precious as you to someone else as well. Introduces you soon to his family and his mother hugs you tightly as if both of you have known each other for years already, you're already part of her family. Hana isn't any different, teasing her brother and taking delight in the way his ears turn red out of embarressment before going back to chatting casually with you. His father seems cold and distant and it takes not a genius to realize that him and his son aren't on good terms, your boyfriend even tries to avoid leaving you alone with him.

✋Tenko tells you everything about his childhood eventually, everything the public doesn't know about him and is clinging to you by the end of his story as he relives his trauma once again. Once you two are in a relationship, he grows even more clingy and very physically affectionate. Constantly wants to be spooned by you, cuddled by you and reassured by you. The man is insecure about himself, feels like there are lot of other people out there who are better than him and is easy to feel jealous when he sees you being sweet to someone else that isn't a friend or family member. Paranoid that he isn't good enough and that you will leave him so it's easiest to soothe over his fears by staying with him and showing your love to him.

✋Chances are that he turns erratic enough to lock you up in his apartment so he can spend some time with you to calm down. Whether that is because he is overprotective or fears that you'll leave him is up to question but it might happen not too seldom. Tenko is delusional since he believes that he can't find someone like you ever again for which you've become his other half. He can't live a normal life without you anymore. He feels partly guilty, ends up spoiling you as an excuse to make up for his behavior. Honestly, I see his mother being sort of delusional as well after all she went through with her son. Nao wants her son happy, doesn't even see his feelings as wrong which is why he talks with her about his worries and problems.

#yandere my hero academia #yandere mha #yandere boku no hero academia #yandere bnha #yandere shigaraki #yandere tomura shigaraki #yandere tenko #yandere tenko shimura

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haleigh-sloth · 2 years ago

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How do you think Horikoshi will go about giving both the heroes and villains what they want? How does Midoriya become the hero who saves everyone if Shigaraki wants to destroy everything? How does does Shouto become a hero at all when Dabi wants to kill him and have Endeavour's attention to himself? How does Uraraka become a hero who saves heroes when Toga wants to kill all of them to live the life that only makes her happy? Unless this isn't what the villains want at all.

How indeed! You're asking the same questions the story is asking, and trying to answer currently. How? Well, it's a narrative challenge for the hero kids to overcome, so it makes sense that we wonder HOW.

**There is one statement in your ask here I disagree with but I'll get to that.

You listed out all the villains wants, and then raised the idea at the end that this isn't what they want at all. Nice job! Because you basically explained:

What the hero kids were led to believe at first, and are only now questioning those beliefs----->The conclusion/end point that the hero kids NEED to reach, and are currently heading toward.

Let's look at what the villains seem to want:

Shigaraki: Currently Midoriya isn't sure what is really going on inside Shigaraki's head, but the end goal is to learn that. But the only solid, outward impression he got of Shigaraki was of someone who wants to destroy/get rid of things he doesn't like. But the question is, is that actually what Shigaraki wants? I mean, Shigaraki tells us yes, but literally everything else in the story tells us no. First, Shigaraki wanted to make a world without All Might. Well, during Kamino he got exactly what he wanted (or thought he wanted). But instead of being elated about it, he further sunk into the idea that he's just bound to be miserable forever. So was that really what he wanted?

Touya: Shouto knows more, but he doesn't understand it. He sees Touya wanting revenge for the abuse Endeavor inflicted. Which on the surface is actually true. But if only that was the case, then why would Touya not be satisfied with completely wrecking his dad's name and playing a part in wrecking the society that worships him? Or actually, why not be satisfied with just killing him? Why die WITH him? Does he actually want revenge?

Toga: The belief Ochacko has is that she just wants to kill and be allowed to do so. But we see from Toga's actions that she keeps chasing after people who continue to reject her. Why do that? It's because she wants to. So is all she really wants, just to kill people?

Now let's look at what the villains really want:

Shigaraki: No, his deep down desire isn't to destroy everything. That's the result of being manipulated and gaslit into believing that that's all he is capable of doing. That's the result of believing that the only purpose he serves as a human being is to destroy and bring mourning unto others. That's the result of believing that there is literally no other option for him. What does he actually want? He's said it and shown us a bunch of times. Someone to show up for him, be there for him. He suffered a tragedy (that he currently believes he caused purposefully/believes it was inevitable) and nobody gave a shit at all. He wants someone to give a shit. What he NEEDS is another issue altogether. He NEEDS someone to help break free from that belief he has of himself so he can be set free, and also start to actually grieve, move forward, and heal--rather than marinate in a bunch of terrible feelings constantly. How does Horikoshi please both sides? It's easy--Midoriya helps him break that mindset (I can only destroy) and from there, Shigaraki acknowledges that what happened to his family was an accident. And as a result he stops hating himself so much, stops believing he's only useful to destroy, and starts seeing some sort of value in himself as a living person--all of which is necessary to break free from AFO. The answer is easy as to HOW both sides get what they want. Shigaraki never had anyone save him, but he wants that. Midoriya is the hero who shows up when nobody else will (a la chapter 1), and is the hero who wants to save everyone within his reach. Both get what they want, because it's like filling in a missing piece of a puzzle.

Touya: Yeah sure he wants revenge, but we also learned that he currently thinks his family just moved on from him no problem. We learned that once Touya was convinced his family was content without him, he became suicidal. So, is revenge all he really wants? Or does he actually want what he never got as a kid--a family who wants him and showed him that? This includes Endeavor. He doesn't just want to kill Endeavor out of vengence. He wants a moment where Endeavor is fully acknowledging their relationship--father and son. Touya can't die until he gets that. So...this tells me that no, Touya doesn't just want to simply kill Endeavor. But Shouto views Touya's ambitions as vengeful, rather than seeking something he wants and never got. He points out to Touya that he himself acknowledges Endeavor was abusive to the family, and Touya still wasn't phased by that acknowledgement. Because....yeah, Touya is Endeavor's victim, and Touya sees himself in that light. But Touya isn't looking for someone to acknowledge that Endeavor was abusive, he's looking for Endeavor to acknowledge him. And Shouto just doesn't understand that. His life was different from Touya's. He wanted his dad's attention OFF of him, Touya wants literally the opposite. Shouto doesn't get that about his brother, and therefore his first attempt missed the mark. But the next step for Shouto is seeing what Touya's real pain is. Touya wants that acknowledgement, and Shouto wants his family restored. Both get what they want.

**The statement I disagree with though....idk, saying that Touya wants Endeavor's attention "all to himself" is just incorrect. He wanted his dad to pay any sort of attention to him at all. His backstory showed us that his dad basically cut him off. In Endeavor's mind, spending time with Touya was pointless because he wasn't going to be able to excel in training, so he stopped. He also avoided all of the early stages of Touya's mental deterioration--widening the gap even further, damaging Touya even further. I think it's just putting way too much of a selfish, self-centered light on what Touya was actually struggling with to say that. Sorry, I just am not a fan of that phrasing.

Toga: We saw from her past that literally just because of the quirk she was born with, she was outcasted from her family--while she still lived there. We saw in chapter 341 something pretty much a metaphor for self-harm, showing Toga's negative view of herself. Which also results in her just wanting to BE other people she loves. Her feelings toward people have escalated to her wanting to disappear into their identity, rather than maintain her own. Her interest in blood started out as genuine curiosity, but over time began getting combined with her emotions. And when her negative emotions from constantly being talked down to and rejected by her family boiled over, that's when she snapped. So does she actually want to just kill people, or does she want people to accept her for who she is? She keeps fixating on Ochacko, Izuku, and Tsuyu. She relates Izuku to her first crush, the boy she stabbed--the beginning of when her life REALLY went downhill and fast. It's like she keeps trying to seek some sort of validation from that moment of weakness in her life where she snapped and couldn't help herself. She sees how Ochacko and Tsuyu were trusting friends of each other, and she sees how Ochacko and Izuku trust each other, a lot. She wants those things, and she wants those things from the part of society that keeps turning her away. Because she wants acceptance from--you guessed it--the part of society that most people are a part of, the part she was outcasted from, the part her family still exists in, the part she used to exist in. How is this resolved? Ochacko learning what really hurts Toga is a good start. Toga already tried explaining why her life sucks, but Ochacko just heard a bunch of excuses for why Toga hurts others. Ocha now has a more open mind, and based on the last time we saw her, it seems like she's ready to truly listen this time, to why Toga hurts. Reaching that understanding is a good way to lead into them working together, and giving both sides what they want.

Assuming the League end up helping the heroes fight against AFO and whoever chooses to remain on his side (which is what I think will happen), then indirectly--Midoriya did save everyone. Saved Shigaraki from AFO's control, and by proxy everyone Shigaraki helps save can be considered something Midoriya contributed to.

To me, the trajectory is easy to see happen. The details of how I obviously don't know, and can only make guesses at. But the necessary events that are needed for both sides to get what they want are pretty clearly laid out for us.

#bnha #bnha asks #anonymous #boku no hero academia #shigaraki tomura #todoroki touya #dabi #toga himiko #league of villains #it ended up being long #but yeah

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marunalu · 2 years ago

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The close up of bakugous face in the last picture of this chapter strongly hints that bakugou isnt done yet. His sweat is glistering and the more he sweats the more powerful his explosions become. So something will happen.

But now I want to point out, that the narrative of the manga told us over and over again that bakugou and endeavor are parallels to each other. Not only in personality, similar quirk, goals and their relationship with their rivals (all might and izuku) but also their plots in the story. Bakugous fight against shigarAFO is a clear parallel to endeavors fight against afo. And we all know how it startet and ended.

At first afo seemed to have the uber hand in battle, plays and taunts endeavor and beats him up badly, till jiro managed to make the vestiges inside afo rebell against him. From that moment he startet to "lose".

Then after a comment about touya and hinting that he was the one who found his burned body, endeavor completly LOST it! He went into rage mode and WRECKED afo so badly, that afo even startet to panic. And after endeavors final attack, burning afo to a crisp, the fight seemed finally over! Afo was dead! Endeavor won!

But! Oh wait! Plot twist! Afo actually is in possession of eris quirk and in the last moment he uses rewind on himself! By that turning himself back to his old overpowered glory, before his face got smashed in by all mights fist.

So in the end endeavor, while being a complete badass in this fight, made things WORSE in the end, because he forced afo to use rewind on himself, something he didnt planed at first, because of the quirks danger.

And now we have the same things happen in bakugous fight against shigarAFO.

The heroes stand no chance against him, bakugou comes up with a new move just to be easily overwhelmed, gets completly DESTROYED and shigarAFO plays with him like a cat with a mouse, till mirio saved bakugous ass and even manages for a moment to help tomura back into control, after he mentioned the word "friends". For a small moment tomura was able to gain control over himself again, because this simple word reminded him of his own friends. For a moment he rebells against afo, just like jiro managed to make the vestiges inside afo rebell against him. But we know what happened. Afo managed to overpower the vestiges inside him, exactly how afo inside tomura managed to take control over him again.

The end of the chapter shows bakugou, beaten up but determinded and not giving up yet. The same happened with endeavor. At first he seemed beaten, but then he lost it after afo taunted him with touya. And in bakugous case, he was terrible humiliated and shamed by shigarAFOs insults.

"Your nothing."

"The only interesting thing about you is your close relationship to izuku midoriya."

"Youre nothing more then izuku midoriyas shadow."

"You will never beat ofa."

ShigarAFO literally calls him a big loser to his face. Tells him how much better izuku is! How he is nothing but a small ant under his feet! And thats something bakugou wont accept, because he WANTS to be better then izuku!

So my prediction is, that just like endeavor he will go all out in the next chapter. Comming up with something new and beat shigarAFO up just how it happened with afo. He will give him hell and it will look like as if he killed him. But just like in the endeavor vs afo fight, shigarAFO will have an ace up his sleves. Because if the real afo has rewind, who says shigarAFO doesnt? Or some kind of other emergency plan?

Just like with endeavor it will look like as if bakugou won and killed/defeated shigarAFO, just to find out the hard way he made everything worse! This will be bakugous great moment hori talked about and both bakugou fans and haters will enjoy! He will be a badass and still fail horrible at the end, because we all know shigaraki will be defeated/saved by izuku and no one else!

#bnha #chapter 360 #chapter spoiler

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linkspooky · 4 years ago

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THE TOP THREE HEROES ARE ALL FAILURES

In the sense that Enjdeavor, Hawks, and Jeanist all embody the failures of the hero system. The first clear sign that all three people who were set to inherit All Might’s Legacy would fail in doing so, is that none of them really understood what kind of hero was in the first place.

Endeavor only ever saw All Might’s Strength, and thought All Might’s genuine desire to save people was just him playing to the crowd. Hawks thought Endeavor’s desire to surpass All Might was heroic, and what made him a better hero because he didn’t give up when everybody else said it was hopeless, but we the audience know Endeavor gave up early and took it out on his family instead. Best Jeanist thinks what’s most important of all isn’t saving people but rather “The Image” of Heroes to the public. Except, the only reason All Might was a hero obsessed with image is because he wanted even those he could not reach to be able to live in peace and save themselves.

The top three heroes are all lacking in what All Might had, in that none of them actually believe that Heroes should save people. Enji believes in strength above all else, Hawks in sacrificing one’s self for the faceless masses, and Best Jeanist in the image of heroes to the public.

It’s really showing that the option of “Saving Dabi” did not even occur to them once, despite the fact that they are completely willing to give a helping hand to the man who made Dabi.

The current number one, two and three heroes are all obsessed with All Might’s Legacy, however all of them are failures to All Might’s Legacy as well because they don’t understand the underlying ideal of heroes saving people. All three of them represent the failures of hero society, which is why they aren’t shown being overly concerned at hero society’s victims. Even when it’s revealed that one of hero society’s greatest villains Dabi, was actually one of hero society’s greatest victims too, created by one of their own, their beliefs barely change.

1. Enji Todoroki

Enji was never concerned with saving others being the job of a hero. His one and only focus was just to be the strongest. He even has a shallow view of All Might’s ideals and goals because of this. He thinks the reason that All Might won number one was because 1) his all powerful strength and 2) his popularity with people.

Enji never once mentions that All Might became the hero he was, because his number one priority in every situation was to save as many people as he could. Because, Enji doesn’t view it as the job of heroes to save others.

Toshinori worked so hard because he genuinely wanted to be the shining light for others. He didn’t become the number one hero because it was his own personal dream, but rather because it was others needed of him. All Might isn’t a perfect hero either, but there’s still a difference between someone who wanted the number one spot because he genuinely thought it would save the most people, and someone who wanted the number one spot because he wanted to be the strongest.

Even after Endeavor’s supposed revelation where he saw Shoto being gentle with flames, rather than forceful and violence, Enji became the exact same kind of hero he was before.

Think of the way Enji fought Shigaraki, burning him alive. He made several attempts to kill him during their fight, even though the rule is heroes absolutely must not kill, that’s what makes them different from villains. Heroes prioritize the safety of people, and saving civilians, except for Endeavor apparently. Endeavor as a hero is the exact same kind of hero he was before, and the flaw with that is if he had fought Dabi the same way he had fought Shigaraki.

He would have burned his own son alive. Enji isn’t even concerned in the least with saving people, even when the person most in need of saving is his own son. He sees villains as an absolute evil for him to punch and beat up in order to prove his own strength. The only way Enji knows how to be a hero is violently taking down crime and no one has ever challenged this, even though it’s the exact attitude that led Toya to his death.

Enji, only ever taught Dabi how to turn up the heat, because Enji wasn’t actually that concerned with his son’s well being. Toya was only worth something to him when he was strong, so Enji only ever taught Toya how to be the strongest hero and nothing else that a father should teach his son. Even now, Enji doesn’t let go of this idea of his that he has to be the number one hero, and being the strongest hero will solve all of his problems.

Endeavor has used playing hero again and again as an excuse to run away. Now that Hawks is giving him another chance to be hero, he’s enabling him to run away again.

It’s incredible how still even after the reveal, it’s always Toya who has to pay for the consequences of Endeavor’s mistakes. Toya is left alone to burn to death and spends the rest of his life covered in burns forgotten by his father, and it’s Endeavor who gets the unconditional support and love Toya needed as a child offered to him, just because he happened to be a hero. If he was a villain he would have just been locked up.

Endeavor is framed as the hero who does not give up, and yet, he very easily runs away and lets Toya take the blame for the majority of his actions. If Toya had been able to carry his dream he would not have abused Shoto. If Toya had not died that day he would not have doubled down even harder on Shoto. Toya’s the reason they could not come together as a family. It’s never Endeavor’s actions, it’s always, somehow, Toya who is blamed, and Toya who is burned as the consequence of Endeavor’s actions. Now, Toya is the one who needs to be stopped when Enji is just as guilty.

I’m not saying that Enji should not be given a chance to get better, but why is the good side of Enji’s actions expressed over and over again and not Toya’s? Toya is trying to reform all of society. Toya is trying to hold his dad accountable for abusing him and neglecting him to the point that he died. That’s murder. Someone who lets their children die because they couldn’t be bothered to supervise them can be charged with involuntary manslaughter in a court of law. Enji has killed too, but rather than admit to his own flaws it’s must easier to cast Toya s the villain that needs to be stopped and himself as the hero that needs everyone’s support.

Toya deserves the same chance that Enji got.

2. Hawks

Hawks only saw self sacrifice in All Might’s actions. He saw someone harming himself over and over again for the sake of others, and that’s probably why he admired Enji’s pursuit of strength more because it was the opposite of him.

If Enji is the extreme result of the attitude that villains can’t be saved, only stopped by putting themselves down with violence, then Hawks is the extreme result of self sacrifice. Hawks seems like the ideal hero on paper, he would do anything, and give up any part of himself to save a faceless stranger just like All Might. However, Hawks also has decided that he has the right to sacrifice others as well.

Hawks is self-destructive. That’s the extreme end of self sacrifice. However, unlike All Might who took the burden entirely on himself, Hawks will choose others to sacrifice as well. If Hawks sees himself as a tool for the greater good he will extend that to others as well. If Hawks sees himself as a bad victim who turned his back on their parents, he extends that to others as well.

So basically, Hawks’ number one problem is with himself. He can’t reconcile his past. He feels guilty for being abused by his parents. He feels guilty for not forgiving the same abusive parents. He puts everything he has into being a hero, and yet, he doesn’t feel like he himself is a hero. Hawks’ only way he knows to feel good about himself is to continuously sacrifice himself for the sake of others.

Because he learned when he was young the only way to be good was by sacrificing himself to protect others. He only received the help he needs because he showed he was “one of the good victims” but deep down internally he feels like he’s the bad one, for not being able to do anything for his mother, for not reaching out to her.

Hawks can’t see himself as a victim and it messes with the way he sees other victims as well. He divides them into good and bad, and then tells himself that he’ll offer to help the good ones, the ones willing to improve. Hawks’ represents Hero Society’s own willingness to throw the bad victims to the dogs.

It’s specifically Hawks who Twice calls this out on. So we have a number one hero who thinks the only way to deal with villains is to violently suppress them, and the number two hero that thinks the only people who deserve to be saved is the ones he deems as “Good” or “Trying to be better.”

It’s all because Hawks has this really self destructive idea of what kindness is. That kindness is somehow destroying yourself for the sake of others, that it’s being overly forgiving and not holding any resentment at all.

It’s like how Deku acts like forgiving his father is a kind act. However, at the same time implying that holding onto resentment would be an unkind one.

Even though the reason Natsuo won’t forgive is because Toya is dead, and Enji never showed any apparent remorse for it, and didn’t try to fix anything. Even though one son died because of Enji’s training, and then Enji just decided to train the one remaining son he had left a thousand times harder. Natsuo is attempting to hold his father accountable for his actions, but Deku acts like blanket forgiveness would be the kind thing to do.

Even though Deku himself is willing to overlook all of Enji’s past abuse of Shoto, and his murder of Toya, but at the same time stresses how unforgivable Toya and Shigaraki are.

Deku just saves people in a self destructive way. He breaks his bones to save others, thus mirroring Hawks who just saves people without genuinely thinking through who needs to be saved. They save people, because that’s the way they hurt themselves to prove how useful they are. However, neither of them actually goes through the trouble of thinking who genuinely needs saving, and that’s why they’re able to carry such a false double standard. Enji needs help because he’s trying to be better, whereas Toya’s not trying to be better. Ignoring the fact that you know, Enji tries to be better by just, forgetting everything he did in the past and sweeping his past actions under the rug, whereas Toya is still suffering from the scars of Enji’s abuse, permanently on his body.

However, between Twice a person willing to die to protect his friends and act of complete selflessness, and Enji who can’t even bring himself to think that maybe he should try to save the son he let burn to death on a mountain peak which one do you think was trying to be better? Enji who spent ten years, even after Toya had already died to his training, training up Shoto instead even harsher. Enji who referred to Toya as “a failure” and “almost perfect” when talking to Shoto about his death.

“I’m going to help anyone trying to be better” is just an arbitrary line that Hawks draws.

That’s even the critique that Twice levelled at Hawks. Hawks doesn’t care because he never actually tried to see the good sides of the other people, but Toga was someone who comfotred Twice and understood him. Toga was someone who made the league feel like home. Hawks labels Twice as the only good one, because he just didn’t bother to see what was good about the other villains. Yet, at the same time he strains himself to see the good in Endeavor, to the point where he constantly apologizes for Endeavor’s actions and sweeps them under the rug. Endeavor is a good man who is just misunderstood in Hawks’ eyes, who just went wrong somewhere, but Hawks can’t ever offer up the same sympathy to the worst victims of society. Who lash out and hurt other people in the same way that Endeavor did, except Endeavor’s is excusable and there’s isn’t because...???

Hawks is in denial, because he refuses to look at the good sides of the villains. Twice didn’t choose to accept his offer of help, so obviously he didn’t want to be better, therefore Hawks is perfectly justified in putting him down. Notice though how Hawks mentioned prison time for Jin, but not for Enji (neglecting a child to the point where they burn to death is... still a crime).

Hawks is still in denial about himself. He thinks he’s offering people a helping hand. However, from Jin’s perspective we see how manipulative he is. Hawks didn’t offer Jin a hand, he held him at gunpoint and told him to surrender and betray his friends. Hawks is just lying to himself, because he didn’t go out of his way to save Jin, he ruthlessly manipulated him, and then betrayed him. He’s not framed as a hero trying desperately to save a villain, but rather a friend betraying another friend who trusted him. Because, Hawks does not just sacrifice himself. He’s the extreme result of self sacrifice. Self sacrifice turns into self destruction. Self denial. Hawks sacrifices other people. He forces himself to dirty his hands, because he believes this is the only way he can be a hero. He’s too weak individually, so he has to manipulate, pull strings, and even kill in order to achieve the results he thinks will save the most people. However, by doing that he ignores the suffering of the victims right in front of them.

Not only that, but he ignores what contradicts his simple black and white narrative. Enji was trying to be better so he deserves help and support, Twice didn’t want to be better so Hawks revoked his offer of support away.

He’s willing to give support to a man who abused his family for no good reason, and who continues to evade any consequences or legal punishment for his actions, but then insists that Jin who was pushed to his actions by poverty and not wanting to starve to death just did not want to be better. He’s like, so unaware of what the problem actually is with society, he can’t possibly think why Enji leaving his own son to burn to death might have left his son a bit miffed. Enji is just a person who made a few missteps along the way but genuinely wants to be good, Dabi is just a selfish person who doesn’t want to be better, so says Hawks.

Nevermind how hard Toya tried to be a hero, and how he never gave up on earning his father’s love. Nevermind how hard Twice tried to be helpful to other, and how much he loved the people around him he was willing to sacrifice his life. Twice’s last action was to save his two closest friends. Enji’s actions are always just to beat up villains to prove how strong he is. Enji is never concerned with anyone. Hawks does want to save people, but he never thinks about the people who need to be saved.

Therefore, heroes are always good. Even when heroes do bad things, Hawks contrives some way to not hold them responsible for it ever. Well, Enji isn’t like that now. Well, we don’t need to announce that Enji was an abuser, because that will just upset the public.

The actions of Enji are apologized for over and over again. Because rather than holding him accountable for his actions. Instead of pushing him to actually fix his mistakes, it’s better to keep sweeping the problem under the rug. Because, as is repeated again and again heroes don’t save people. When a hero fails to save someone, rather than trying to fix that mistake it’s easier to blame the person who didn’t get saved.

Even if it was your own son that you left to burn to death. That is somehow miraculously alive. That has given you a second chance to save the person you should have saved that day by just, showing up, and actually acting like a father for once.

Enji will just choose his job over and over again. Because heroes don’t actually have a responsibility to save people. Being hero is just a job. Enji, Hawks, Jeanist they consider it a profession, not a responsibility. Which is why all three of them are willing to blame Dabi for his own actions, but not Endeavor for his. Which, just proves Dabi right.

Heroes aren’t actually concerned with saving people. Heroes don’t think about who is most in need of saving, and who the real victims are. Heroes just protect their own.

Enji, Hawks and Dabi are all murderers. They have all killed someone in pursuit of their goal. Not only did Enji murder a child by neglect, he also tried to kill Shigaraki several times over, and even tried to murder Pop Step in vigilantes. Hawks killed Twice in pursuit of a goal.

However, Hawks and Enji need to be supported, whereas Toya needs to be stopped. Because they are heroes, and Dabi is a villain. But sure, watch Dabi continually burn his own body over and over again and push himself to the very limit so he can achieve a society where another hero will never get away with abusing his family like Enji did his, and say that he doesn’t want to be good. Watch Toya burn himself over and over again as a child just trying to be a hero because he thinks it’s the only way to earn his father’s love, because he genuinely looked up to his father and wanted to be just like him, and insist that Toya just stopped trying to be better, that he was just a jealous child, that he was never good.

Jeanist isn’t a fully developed character so I’m not going to talk about him as much, but he represents the attitude that heroes “only pretend to save people” because they fuss ove image, rather than doing the actual work of helping victims.

The thing is someone who is genuinely trying to be better would listen to Dabi’s words, to Shigaraki’s words. However, Jeanist, Hawks, Enji all think of themselves as the hero, therefore they assume they are good and that their actions are good.

Whenever someone contradicts this, they just flat out ignore any criticism. Heroes don’t save people. Heroes just protect their own image as heroes, because they assume that’s what is necessary for peace. Even now, Hawks and Jeanist aren’t focused on the innocent people suffering from the victim break outs, but rather taking down the man out to ruin their reputations.

They pretend to see those they haven’t protected. Even when that person is Endeavor’s own son, his pain gets swept under the rug, because the image of Endeavor as a shining hero is far more important than the responsibility he has to help his own son, that’s in pain and need to saving.

#mha 303 #mha 303 spoilers #bnha 303 #bnha 303 spoilers #mha meta #hawks #takami keigo #endeavor #todoroki enji #best jeanist #dabi #todoroki toya

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hamliet · 4 years ago

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Dabi’s Missing Heart

So I’ve been seeing two main responses to Dabi’s character as portrayed in BNHA 292, both of which I feel touch on a very surface understanding of his character and role in the story despite seeming like opposite takes.

Take #1:

Dabi is an unfeeling monster created to show the redeemability of Shigaraki and Enji in contrast with his true eeeevil villainy! He will never be redeemed!

Take #2:

Dabi is a sweet softy who did nothing wrong! He will never be redeemed because of this chapter which is so out-of-character!

Note how they both have the same endpoint. I’m not actually gonna address the redemption question much because I can’t fathom what this panel foreshadows if not Touya’s salvation (alive):

I’m not looking to debate this either; I’m just putting it here because I know it’ll come up if I don’t.

Instead, I wanna address Dabi’s character. He’s my favorite, and I’ve been asked a few different times whether I enjoy him as a villain or as an uwu poor baby, and my answer is always both.

Dabi is a villain. This chapter’s rampage is, in my opinion, not remotely out of character for him. But neither is it the summation of his character, and he surely is not meant to make Enji look good by comparison.

So, who is Dabi?

Dabi is kind of a flaming jerk, and that’s why I like him. He’s an abuse victim who gets to be angry and crass and sharp. He pushes people away because he doesn’t want to open up to them and get burned (heh). He’s just like Shouto in that, except with a dose of murder.

Believe it or not, this is a very realistic response to abuse, and very common too. It’s good to see that representation. If the writing was indeed just “he’s bad get rid of him,” well, that would of course be a terrible representation. But seeing a mean victim get redeemed? Now that’s some good sh*t I’m here for.

If you want a sweethearted, misunderstood soft victim, there is one in MHA, and that’s Shigaraki. Dabi is not these things, but that does not mean he’s not a victim or that he’s somehow an unfeeling monster.

You see, Shigaraki is a heart character. Dabi’s the mind. (Heart and mind characters are a literary pattern that is utilized in literature across the globe; it’s not an eastern/western cultural thing. It has its roots in alchemy.) The problem is that you can’t have a heart without a mind nor a mind without a heart. If you lack one, you’re missing half the picture, and you won’t accomplish anything.

We see this with Shigaraki in his quest to look for ideals, something to believe in, purpose to justify/enable acting on his feelings/emotions.

Dabi, in contrast, has conviction and ideals, but eschews any kind of personal connection and care.

So, both Shigaraki and Dabi struggle to unite heart and mind--but they need to do precisely this.

It’s not a coincidence that Shigaraki expressly envisions both Dabi and Himiko when musing on what his purpose is.

Yet Shigaraki is able to unite more easily with Himiko as opposed to Dabi because Himiko is also a heart character. She claims to be motivated by extreme empathy that warps around to become a lack thereof (wanting to be who she loves).

Shigaraki’s motivations are basically revenge for hero society not saving him--which encompasses both a deep internal and external (societal) need for empathy and a need for better ideals. Shigaraki needs Himiko and Dabi. They’re a trio, and all of them need each other to grow. But Himiko, being similarly driven expressly by emotions, is easier for Shigaraki to understand and work with.

The irony is that Dabi is actually a very, very emotional character as well. But what he does (as is typical for a mind character) is repress them, compartmentalize, dissociate. He constantly pushes people away, yet admits privately, to himself, that he’s primarily (and paradoxically) motivated by family. This is emotional, yet Dabi claims he “overthought” and, according to other translations, “snapped” can be actually be read as “went crazy” as a result over overthinking (note: both are mind allusions).

Dabi repressing who he is--Todoroki Touya--is symbolic of him repressing his emotional side, because again, family and emotions are tied together for his character. Now his identity is acknowledged, and Dabi claims to be losing his mind (again), claims that he can’t feel, and yet is completely consumed by emotions. Like, does anyone think he’s being methodical and calculating this chapter?

It’s not just negative emotions (rage, hate) that drive Dabi in response to his family. His seeking belonging and emotional connection is present even in a chapter where he tries to murder two members of his family and laughs off the risk to the life of another.

See, Dabi first asked Shouto to validate his pain:

But like, given the circumstances, of course Shouto doesn’t really respond well. How Shouto responds is this:

Shouto’s words are triggering. And keep in mind I am not blaming Shouto: he’s in shock and he’s a kid. I’m merely trying to explain how it likely comes across to Dabi.

You’re crazy. Your feelings don’t matter. You don’t really care about Natsuo! You’re a villain and that’s ALL you are. Not a brother or abuse survivor. Just a villain.

So, uh, yeah, Dabi then retreats back to being unable to feel, dissociating as has always been his coping mechanism. But that’s not all: Dabi’s been repressing for so long that of course he’s gonna go a little insane in response to the dismissal of everything he’s trying to point out. Why wouldn’t he? His family dismissed his pain back then and now again, and so, without that heart, without those emotions, principle is all Dabi has. This has been present since long before Stain’s ideology came into his life:

Now, he answers this question of existence through Stain’s ideology. Purpose is all he has, and to him, Shouto and Best Jeanist are dismissing that too. Why are they dismissing it? Best Jeanist dismisses him for an ideal: the overall good of hero society. Shouto has a mixture of this ideal and also like, genuine shock and pain.

Back to Dabi. Dabi’s summation of himself and his purpose is incorrect and harmful to himself and others. I’m not excusing him or justifying, just explaining. It’s a tragic reflection of what Endeavor raised both Touya and Shouto to be (and thereby ironic that BJ uses an ideal to dismiss him):

Instead of being raised to be the symbol of hero society--as Endeavor intended--he exists to destroy it. The root is the same: Dabi assumes he exists for hero society, as a tool. He dehumanizes himself, hence why his quirk physically harms him (which also fits his almost religious zeal for Stain’s ideology). But it is not all Dabi is. He’s not a tool, he’s a person, but to acknowledge he’s a person involves acknowledging his heart/emotional desires, and that gets to my next point.

Dabi’s not a reliable narrator about himself. At all. I’ve written about Dabi and dissociation before. So let’s look at Dabi’s devotion to his ideals, the ideals he puts above people and claims he only cares about... because there are moments where Dabi goes against those ideals.

For one example, Dabi’s gone against those ideals when he’s allowed his personal need for revenge (an emotional/heart motivation) to overcome his longterm plan. Like, he was fully about to get himself killed here, even though that would likely mean no one would know the corruption of the Todoroki family and hero society, just for the chance to prove to his father that he hurt him.

In addition, I’ve talked before about how Dabi’s the only character in the entire damn manga to comment that maybe using child soldiers is not okay. While it’s not explicitly stated, it’s reasonable to conclude that Dabi considers the abuse of children in hero training a sin of hero society that ought to be purged (hence, part of his ideals).

That said, I have also pointed out that Dabi has gone after children in the past when it benefits his mission (Bakugou would like a word). So let’s look at four examples of Dabi and his principles concerning kids--since, after all, he claims to be motivated by heroes who hurt kids.

Firstly, Dabi’s “save the cat” when he spared Aoyama.

Why did he spare Aoyama? We can only speculate, but it seems quite likely there are two reasons: 1) hurting Aoyama would not add anything to his overall goal of downing hero society, and 2) a terrified, cowering kid might just have been a teeny bit familiar to Dabi. Here, his ideals--destroying hero society--either take a backseat to a reflection of his personal pain (and)/or his ideal of not abusing kids directly contradicted his ideal of bringing down hero society. But the important part is that in this instance, Dabi chose mercy and the goal of bringing down hero society was jeopardized as a result.

So then why did he attack Tokoyami, Nejire, and Shouto this arc? Well, Dabi does things he knows are wrong for the sake of accomplishing his overall purpose. He does things he knows hurt himself for this purpose. This isn’t new. If he can’t be acknowledged, can’t exist as a person with emotions, then he at least will ensure he still has a purpose.

In addition, let’s look at what sets Dabi off in all of these instances. (Again, this isn’t me saying “well actually Dabi’s justified.” He’s not. I’m just pointing to what’s in the text to explain the machinations beyond “bad guy do bad.”)

Dabi tries to reason with Tokoyami, pointing out that Twice was doing essentially what Tokoyami is doing: trying to save his friend(s), but Tokoyami doesn’t listen (also again: not me saying Tokoyami should have listened--realistically, in this situation, it makes sense Tokoyami trusted his mentor!)

Only after his reasoning was rejected did Dabi go to flames mode. He could have just let Tokoyami save Hawks, but instead he really wanted to kill Hawks and that overrode his other principles. Was this just because of his furthering his goal--killing the #2 hero would help destroy hero society--or because of a sense of personal revenge for Twice? That’s open for interpretation (in my opinion, it’s likely a mixture, because again, it tends to intertwine more than Dabi likes to think it does). His principles and/or emotions are brushed aside, and Dabi Does Not Like That.

Dabi does this again with Shouto this chapter, asking him where he stands on their family issues, and gets brushed aside, and then Shouto goes into his rage mode and Dabi responds. Again, not saying Shouto is rational here or that he should side with Dabi’s murderous plan, but like, his words really don’t come across well to Dabi.

Dabi going after Shouto after explaining things, asking Shouto for help, and then having his pain dismissed is pretty much a repeat of Tokoyami. When Dabi’s pain is dismissed, he says fine, let’s aim for the highest principle possible: making Stain’s will a reality, and damn any emotional ties.

Dabi’s obsession with ideals, you might say, is a smokescreen to cover his own pain. Far from feeling nothing, he feels very deeply. (I promise I’m getting to Nejire.)

So what does this indicate? Well, that Dabi does have a heart and a conscience. But when he lets his heart act, when his heart reaches out, he gets burned. His heart jeopardizes his overall purpose, so he most often dissociates himself from it. But by pretending he doesn’t have a heart, he dehumanizes himself, and he projects that dehumanization onto others (see: seeing Shouto as an extension of Endeavor, when that’s actually the precise image Shouto is trying to shed).

It’s not a coincidence that Shigaraki has been unconscious during the entire confrontation with Endeavor, nor is it a coincidence that Himiko has been MIA. But, Shigaraki wakes up a bit this chapter not only when hearing Dabi spout about how hero society needs to burn, an ideal/the thing Shigaraki lacks, and through a less important but still-ideal-driven character in Spinner asking him to accomplish his supposed ideal of destruction, but when Dabi saves Shigaraki and Spinner.

Dabi doesn’t burn Nejire for lols (not that this makes it better because it doesn’t) or even for ideals. He burns her to save Shigaraki and Spinner, because they are his links to full humanity right now.

(Again, this is also dissociation and projection: Endeavor did this! No, Dabi, you did. You’re perpetuating violence against kids rather than stopping it.)

But anyways, when Dabi calls upon heart, Shigaraki wakes. He lends Gigantomachia and thereby Dabi and the league power.

Dabi can only grow and actually accomplish anything related to his ideals (fixing hero society) through accepting a heart--even though that will likely mean some painful surgery to shift his ideals to accommodate said heart, because pure ideals don’t leave much room for humanity. He needs to feel to actually change anything, because right now he’s just making things worse (hence, the need for saving and redemption).

I know the League aren’t the protagonists of the serIes, but their complaints aren’t exactly incorrect either (if anything they’re almost a little too valid). But through growing together, Dabi, Shigaraki, and Himiko might actually be able to accomplish something, and get themselves in a place where they can be reached and saved by Shouto, Deku, and Ochaco. Because to be saved, the kids will have to acknowledge the villains’ pain and complaints, and do something about it.

#bnha 292 #bnha meta #mha 292 #mha meta #dabi #todoroki shouto #todoroki touya #todoroki enji #hado nejire #toga himiko #shigaraki tomura #shimura tenko #best jeanist #boku no hero academia #my hero academia #bnha theory #mha theory #league of villains #spinner

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makeste · 4 years ago

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So you mentioned you had this theory about AfO giving Shigaraki his Quirk, and having a more...direct influence on his backstory. Was there a previous post about this theory I could read, or if not, do you mind elaborating on it?

I’ve talked about it a bit here and there (for instance in my chapter recaps for chapters 235 through 237, and in posts like this one), but I haven’t really summarized it all together yet, so I’ll give you the short version, since I have no idea when I’ll finally get around to writing up the long version never mind lol this turned out long enough that we might as well just designate it the long version and call it a day. anyways, the basic idea is that there are far too many coincidences in Tenko’s traumatic backstory for me to believe that they are anything other than planned -- particularly since every last one of those coincidences directly benefits AFO in some way.

the fact that Tenko -- who oddly enough had been diagnosed as quirkless right up until the point where he suddenly wasn’t -- just happened to develop the perfect quirk to ensure that he would accidentally kill his entire family.

the fact that this quirk also doesn’t seem to have anything to do with either of his parents’ quirks. not that we ever saw said quirks, admittedly, but we know Kotarou’s quirk likely had something to do with Float because of genetics. and also we saw both parents touch things with all five fingers, so we know that neither of them has a touch-based quirk like the one Tenko spontaneously developed. hence the assumption that Tenko’s quirk was a mutation. but if so it’s an extremely convenient one.

the fact that all of this shit happens to their yard and house,

and not a single soul turns up to investigate. no neighbors, no cops, no heroes -- nobody. it’s not like they didn’t have neighbors, either!

it’s Japan, lol, everyone’s right on top of one another and nobody has any personal space. you can see the two neighboring houses only a few yards away on either side. and yet nobody in either of those homes heard or saw anything?? no one turned up afterwards curious about what had happened, and looking for the family?

the fact that not a single person stops Tenko on the street other than that one old lady. no one else spares so much as a glance. you could argue they were all too afraid and/or all just figured “someone else will take care of it”, which of course is exactly what Tomura thought happened as well. but putting aside the depressingly pessimistic nature of that take (and the fact that there have been actual studies conducted that show that the so-called bystander effect is actually bullshit), even if we assume that this is that one-in-ten situation where no one was willing to help, the fact that no one was even nosy enough to investigate further, and there were absolutely no heroes or other authorities in the area even after the incident at his house (again, you’re telling me no one was out there searching for the missing family?) -- all of that absolutely screams tampering to me. there’s just no way.

the fact that out of all the people who could have finally discovered him, it just happened to be AFO, and he just happened to already know exactly what had happened. (and for that matter, the fact that Ujiko made it to the crime scene in time to gather up all of the family remains and wasn’t caught or interfered with.)

and last but not least, the fact that the child who experienced all of this extraordinarily convenient misfortune just so happened to be the grandson of AFO’s arch-enemy.

so yeah. just one extremely improbable event on top of another. and now add to that the fact that all of these crazy coincidences just so happen to line up perfectly with AFO’s goals:

he wants an heir whom he can raise up as his pawn to eventually defeat OFA.

he needs that heir to harbor an extraordinarily powerful hatred.

while this is still unconfirmed, it’s heavily implied that said heir would need to be quirkless in order to be an ideal vessel for AFO (AFO probably figured this out a good deal sooner than the OFA vestiges because he has a lot more experience with forcing quirks onto other people).

this isn’t a requirement per se, but it sure is a nice bonus if that heir just so happens to be a close blood relation of one of the OFA successors whose lives he’s so determined to thoroughly destroy.

so how exactly does one go about cultivating a strong enough hatred to defeat one’s annoying brother and his persistently stubborn quirk? easy!

(1) identify a suitable target child (preferably one who’s the grandson of your hated enemy). preferably very young so that they’re easier to mold in your image, and also because it’s important for them to have not developed a quirk yet.

(2) ensure that the child is quirkless (this is easily done if you’re a guy who has the ability to steal quirks).

(3) keep close tabs on the child (whose father you’ve indirectly traumatized by killing his mother years and years ago, leading to his taking it out on his own children years later) and wait until you feel like the time is right.

(4) give the child a new deadly and uncontrollable quirk.

(5) sit back and wait for the slaughter.

(6) ensure via one of your many quirks and/or your numerous connections as the head of the criminal underworld that no authorities show up to rescue the child in the aftermath, or to basically investigate the crime scene in any way. same goes for the people on the street the next morning.

(7) wait until the child is good and traumatized and at his most vulnerable, then come to his rescue, and also make sure to point out how none of the heroes cared enough to bother.

and then the rest we basically already know lol. AFO gives him his family’s hands to ensure that the trauma stays fresh, and repeatedly drills into Tenko’s head the idea that he is a born killer, and that he can only find peace in destruction. he raises him to despise heroes in general and All Might in particular. all so that he will grow up to become AFO’s perfect vessel.

tl;dr, it was all AFO from start to finish. everything that the adult Tomura believes about heroes and society and even about himself, he believes because AFO carefully implanted, reinforced, and nurtured those beliefs in him. and that is precisely why Deku isn’t wrong when he senses that Tenko is still in there somewhere, and that he can still be saved. the key to Tomura remaining under AFO’s control is that he continues to believe AFO’s great lie that the tragedy of his life was inevitable, and was the heroes’ fault. but if and when he ever discovers the true extent of AFO’s involvement in every aspect of his childhood misfortune, whatever remains of that control is going to shatter completely, and once again AFO’s own arrogance will potentially be his downfall. it’s all well and good to go about creating monsters for your own personal gain -- until they finally come knocking on your own door. I for one would love to see Tomura be the one to personally deliver the final blow. but we’ll see!

#shigaraki tomura #shimura tenko #all for one #bnha meta #tomura meta #bnha theory #bnha #boku no hero academia #bnha spoilers #mha spoilers #bnha manga spoilers #makeste reads bnha #asks #anon asks #long post

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problemswithbooks · 3 years ago

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Yea I think hori is going in that direction too but it should have had a better set up back in the plf war. Plus with all the nonsense in between the 2 wars, we currently have a mess on our hands.

The whole Villain arc really confused me honestly, because I very much expected Hori to use it to distance the LoV from AfO. To give the League, and Shigaraki in particular a set of goals that were better then AfO's.

And to an extent Shigaraki does, sort of have better goals then AfO--because he wants his pals to be happy, but it's in a very 'shrugs shoulders' do what you want, sort of way. The only real drive we've seen Shigaraki have is for destruction, the one thing AfO groomed him for his entire life.

It also kind of makes Shigaraki look dumb. I was kind of shocked that he had his flashback, and in said flashback he hears AfO say he could have manipulated his memories, and remember AfO being incredibly cruel to him, and not start to question his 'master' more.

Realistically, I guess it makes sense, but from a story perspective I don't think it works well. Mostly because by the time Shigaraki gets taken over I don't really see much of a difference between him and AfO. Shigaraki and AfO want almost exactly the same thing--end Heroes and destroy everything. Their only differences are that Shigaraki's goals are those things +friends, while AfOs are that +personal world domination.

When Shigaraki got possessed nothing really changed, Shigaraki would have tried to kill everyone regardless--was already targeting Izuku. It doesn't matter who the Heroes lose to because the outcome is nearly the same and it becomes a battle of pick your poison. Especially when you consider that Shigaraki's original plan was to let the PLF take over once he destroyed everything, so it really would have been Dictator (megalomaniac flavor) Vs. Dictator (eugenics flavor).

I also just feel like the Hero/kids stories and the Villain stories are to disconnected. Hori could have introduced more stuff in the MVA arc and it still wouldn’t have helped if nothing touched on during those chapters was backed up by stuff in the Hero chapters.

Take the whole Mutant Quirk discrimination. Before the Villain arc, it was there, but only through some one off insults that were treated no differently then how those same insults (lizard, dog, monkey) would be seen today. They were rude, sure, but didn’t seem to be that terrible.

But the MVA arc had a cult that dressed like KKK members, who wanted to kill all mutants. I’m not sure how much Hori knows about the history of the KKK and how much using that aesthetic would change the tone of the story for western (specifically American readers), but it very much does. Now those rude, but ultimately harmless insults become slurs, and due to the KKK references, implied to be on par with the N-word. Suddenly Shinsou, Dabi and Shoto have become retroactively people who use slurs--which I don’t think was Hori’s intent.

But this is even more of an issue because when we go to the kids/Heroes, this doesn’t even seem to be a problem.

Some people try to say that it’s because the kids are sheltered and blinded by Hero worship, but that doesn’t make sense narratively or from a RL perspective. Sure Izuku and the non-mutant characters could be blind to this discrimination, but the mutant kids would not, and it doesn't make much sense that they wouldn’t bring it up on occasion. Like say, Ojiro being pissed that Shinsou called him a slur, and Shinsou needing to apologize to him for it. Or one of the Mutant kids being annoyed, but unsurprised that Gang Orca was picked by the HPSC to play the villain during their test.

And if Hori really does want to present it as the kids being ignorant/blinded by Hero Society, then the narrative has to play into that, by showing that they are ignoring obvious issues, and later giving them a revelation about it.

None of it has been framed that way even when it was eventually brought in the Hero/kids story. When Izuku saved the Mutant woman he didn’t realize anything about the oppression of Mutants--he acted the same way he would when saving anyone. He doesn’t even think or comment on that fact Mutants are being thrown out of shelters based solely on appearance. It just feels really shallow and off.

And this is a similar issue in all of the villains backstories/reasons for being villains. Those problems just aren’t shown as problems--even in the background, when we focus on the main characters. In fact a lot of what we see on the Hero side contradicts what the LoV say. So the LoV’s issues have become very tell don’t show, or worse, tell and show contradicting material. It’s just a mess and it makes me sad because it’s such a waste of potential.

#ask #thanks for the ask!#mha #bnha #bnha critical

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todomitoukei · 4 years ago

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Japanese vs. English Shigaraki - A Look At The 281 Speech

Thanks for reading!!

The speech from 281 is really interesting, especially considering that despite Shigaraki talking about heroes in general - specifically in regards to his own situation - it parallels Endeavor and the Todoroki family situation, so I’m going to talk about his speech, compare the official English translation with the Japanese version and also explain how it relates to the Todoroki family.

First things first, this speech can be treated as one long sentence. I’m breaking them all up by speech bubble/panel, but just keep in mind that these parts all string together and are building up on another (I am including the full speech at the very end of this!).

Right off the bat, Shigaraki’s speech starts with a sentence that, although about himself, is a perfect parallel to the Todoroki family.

「ヒーローというのはな。。。他人をたすける為に家族を傷つけるんだ。」

「ヒーロー ; hiro 」-> hero

「というのは ; to iu nowa」-> the meaning of … is~

「な ; na 」-> ending sentence particle to express emotion or an opinion

「他人 ; tanin 」-> other people; stranger; unrelated person

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「たすける ; tasukeru 」-> to save

「為に tame ni 」-> for the sake of

「家族 ; kazoku 」-> family

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「傷つけるんだ ; kizutsukerunda 」-> injuring; hurting someone’s feelings

= “The meaning of ‘hero’ is someone who hurts their family for the sake of saving strangers.”

What’s interesting is that the panel shows Shigaraki’s dad, showing that Shigaraki recognizes that he wasn’t the only victim in his family. Instead, his whole family was hurting as a result of his grandmother, a hero, leaving to help others.

“You heroes... pretend to be society’s guardians.”

「ヒーロー（おまえたち）は社会を守るフリをしてきた。」

「ヒーロー ; hiro 」-> hero

「おまえたち ; omaetachi 」-> you (plural)

「は ; wa 」-> sentence topic marker

「社会 ; shakai 」-> society

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「守る ; mamoru 」-> to protect; to guard; to defend

「フリ」-> pretending to

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「してきた ; shitekita 」-> to have continued to do something

= “Heroes have continued to pretend to protect society.”

As you might have noticed, the official translation says “you heroes” whereas the fan translation I read just says “heroes” - which is due to the furigana (omaetachi) that differ from the actual reading of the word (hiro). In a case like this, the furigana represent what the character says, whereas the kanji (or in this case the katakana) represent what the character actually means. The official translation always either decides to include both words or just goes for one of them. So here, Shigaraki says “you” but the katakana let us know that he is addressing this solely to all heroes, not all of society, thus showing that Shigaraki doesn’t blame all of humanity. Even though his goal originally was the destruction of everything, he has since grown to care about the League and has already promised that he wouldn’t destroy the things they care about. With that, he clearly knows not everyone is to blame - there are people out there who are in the same boat as him, who are also victims of the same corrupt society. The heroes are the ones to blame and so he is going to directly address them.

Another difference is that the official translation says “pretend to be society’s guardians” - personally, I don’t think there is much difference between using the verb (to protect/guard) or the noun (guardian) here, but the Japanese text uses the verb.

There is, however, an interesting subtle nuance in here: shitekita. Shite means to do and connects to kita (past of kuru, which means to come). This form can express a continued change in a state for something that moves toward the speaker (doesn’t have to be physical). In this specific case, it means that the pretending has been going on until now, though it’s not specified whether it will stop or continue to be. It can also imply the involvement of the speaker. Not only is Shigaraki trying to put an end to this facade, but there is no telling when exactly the pretending is going to stop.

This next panel shows Endeavor, which is all too fitting considering the text: “Fow generations... you pretended not to see those you couldn’t protect... and swept their pain under the rug. It’s tainted everything you’ve built.” Sound familiar?

「過去。。。何世代も。。。守れなかったモノを見ないフリして」

「過去 ; kako 」-> the past

「何世代も ; nan sedai mo 」-> many generations

「守れなかった ; mamorenakatta 」-> couldn’t protect (negative past potential of 守る)

「モノ ; mono 」-> used to indicate a common occurrence in the past (usually written in hiragana)

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「見ない ; minai 」-> can’t see

「フリ ; furi 」-> pretending to

「して ; shite 」-> did

= “In the past… many generations… have pretended to not see what they couldn’t protect.”

An interesting nuance here is the word mono. As already mentioned above, this word is usually written in hiragana, whereas here it is written in katakana, which is done to emphasize the word. The word itself when used after a verb in the past tense as is done here, indicates a common occurrence in the past, in this case, it means that the inability to protect was already very common in the past. The use of katakana emphasizes even more that this wasn’t just a few cases here and there - instead, it was almost normal.

This line can also be seen as a reference to the Todoroki family, with Endeavor having been unable to protect Touya, yet the public doesn’t know about this - nor does he acknowledge what he has done to his family and how his own actions have led to Touya’s “death”.

「傷んだ上から蓋をして」

「傷んだ ; itanda 」-> damaged

「上, ue 」-> above

「から ; kara 」-> from

「蓋 ; futa 」-> cover; lid

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「して ; shite 」-> did

= “Covered up the damage from above.”

The fan translation worded this as “silently swept the filth of society under the rug” similar to the official translation, which basically expresses the same notion here - that of covering up the damage, pretending that it doesn’t exist instead of acknowledging the heroes’ failures.

This is also a continuation of the previous line: Not only does he pretend not to see the one he couldn’t protect (Touya), he is also sweeping that whole situation under the rug. He doesn’t give interviews, doesn’t let the public know about how he has treated his own family and the trauma he has given them.

「浅ましくも築き上げてきた」

「浅ましく ; asamashiku 」-> shallowly; miserably (adverbial form of 浅ましい)

「も ; mo 」-> adds emphasis, criticism, or commentary of the speaker to the whole sentence

「築き上げてきた ; kizukiagetekita 」-> to have (continued to) build up

= “It was built up shallowly.”

As already mentioned above, the mo in this sentence adds emphasis to the sentence, in this case, to show just how bad everything that has been built up has become.

The kita at the end of kizukiagetekita is similar to the shitekita in the very first sentence. In this case, it means that what has been built up shallowly has continued to be built up until now and it’s also unclear whether the process ends now or will continue even after this.

Again, this sentence can be treated as a reference to Endeavor, who has been building up his career, even more so since becoming the Number One, but it’s all so shallow, being the greatest hero, despite all the ghosts in his closet and despite his whole career being built on his selfish obsessions.

The official English translation wrote this as “it’s tainted everything you’ve built” which doesn’t quite capture the nuance of the actual phrase or the fact that what has been built up has been meaningless from the start rather than it having been tainted later on.

Shigaraki, in the English translation, then goes on to say “That means... your system’s all rotten from the inside... with maggots crawling out. It all builds up... little by little, over time.”

「結果中身は腐って」

「結果 ; kekka 」-> result; consequence; outcome

「中身 ; nakami 」-> contents; substance

「は ; wa 」-> topic marker

「腐って ; kusatte 」-> to rot

= ”As a result the contents are rotten.”

This refers to the whole “covering up the damage” part. Much like with food left in an opened container, the contents eventually spoil. Covering up the crimes and failings of the heroes doesn’t make those hidden secrets go away. If anything, it only makes them get worse over time, until -

「蛆が湧いた」

「蛆 ; uji 」-> maggot

「が ; ga 」-> subject marker

「湧いた ; waita 」-> hatched

= “Maggots hatched.”

Dabi rose from the ashes of Touya. Yes, I’m suggesting Shigaraki is more or less comparing Dabi to a maggot here (rude), but it’s nothing personal because he is also referring to himself; essentially him referring to all villains. People who society tried to silence and erase, but the villains are those that didn’t just become rotten as a result, but those who turned into a new person; one strong enough to stand up and fight back.

So while Endeavor had spent years not admitting to how his selfishness has led to the death of his own child and in a way pretended that never happened, the remains of Touya didn’t just stay in the box; they crawled out as a new lifeform - Dabi.

「小さな小さな積み重ねだ」

「小さな ; chiisana 」-> little

「積み重ね ; tsumikasane 」-> accumulation

「だ ; da 」-> to be

= “It’s a small… small… accumulation.”

Fun fact about this sentence: This exact phrasing first appears in chapter 236 when we get Shigaraki’s backstory in reference to his feelings, particularly his hatred, piling up over time when his family kept telling him to not cry:

And here’s the Japanese version for comparison:

This time, it refers to all those little maggots (=villains) mentioned before, who have come together and joined forces to become the League of Villains, who then grew in numbers even more by uniting with the Meta Liberation Army to form the Paranormal Liberation Front.

Reusing that same phrasing is basically saying that history will repeat itself if nothing gets changed. But every time, the pile gets bigger and so do the results.

“You’ve got the common trash, all too dependet on being protected,” Shigaraki says next in this panel showing random civilians, aka the “common trash”.

「守られる事に慣れきったゴミ共」

「守られる ; mamorareru 」-> to be protected

「事 ; koto 」-> nominalizer (similar to adding “to” or “-ing” in English)

「に ; ni 」-> express object of verb (similar to を but used for verbs with a nuance of motion/direction)

「慣れきった ; narekitta 」-> was too used to it

「ゴミ共 ; gomidomo 」-> garbage; scumbags

= “Scumbags that are too used to being protected.”

Narekitta consists of the words 慣れる ; nareru (to grow accustomed to) and the suffix しきる ; shikiru (to do… hard; to happen to the maximum) and added together they mean that someone is too used to something.

This part emphasizes the fact that those heroic acts create a false sense of security for society, with absolutely no one questioning anything. People want to feel secure, so they don’t see the flaws around them.

“And the brave guardians who created the trash that need coddling. It’s a corrupt, vicious cycle,” he continues, now showig a panel of heroes rescuing civilians.

「そのゴミ共を生み出し庇護するマッチポンプ共」

「その ; sono 」-> that

「ゴミ共 ; gomi domo 」-> garbage; scumbags

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「生み出し ; umidashi 」-> to create; to bring forth

「庇護する ; higo suru 」-> to protect

「マッチポンプ共 ; macchipanpu domo 」-> match pump; stirring up trouble to get credit from the solution

= “A match pump that creates and protects those scumbags.”

The words for garbage and match pump in Japanese both end with domo, which is a pluralizer. This shows that Shigaraki is making it clear that this is not just a single exception, but something that happens numerous times.

Match Pump is an interesting and fitting term to use, as it refers to someone causing a problem to occur, ensuring no one knows who the actual culprit is, and then solve the problem they caused to appear as the savior. The words themselves refer to an example of this, where someone sets something on fire with a match and then pretends to just arrive at the scene and pump water onto it, thus appearing as the hero that put out the fire, despite them being the one to start it.

In the case of the hero system as a whole, it’s because the heroes are the reason the citizens need them. Because some heroes cause the existence of villains, protect citizens from those villains and get thanked as a result. But citizens wouldn’t even need all that protection if it weren’t for the heroes that create the villains in the first place.

In other words, a pretty obvious parallel to the Todoroki family. Endeavor, being the one to have trained and then abandoned Touya. Touya then dying in a fire which - although not directly caused by Endeavor - represents Endeavor, a father who allowed that situation to happen. Touya died and became the villain, Dabi, which in turn gives Endeavor work and opportunities to present himself as a hero to society by taking down villains. The most notable example of this is his first proper debut as Number One, as he defeated the Nomu sent by Dabi. But that Nomu wouldn’t have been sent by Dabi if Endeavor hadn’t created Dabi, to begin with. Society can’t help but appreciate his work as a hero, despite not knowing that villains like Dabi wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for people like Endeavor.

The official English translation added the phrase “it’s a corrupt, vicious cycle” which doesn’t appear in the original Japanese text, but it is actually a pretty fitting statement.

“Everything I’ve wittnessed... this whole system you’ve built has always rejected me,” Shigaraki says in the official translation, which isn’t necessarily wrong, but the word “rejected” isn’t exactly what he says, nor does it capture the point he actually makes.

「これまで目にした全ておまえたちの築いてきた全てに否定されてきた」

「これまで ; koremade 」-> so far

「目にした ; me ni shita 」-> saw; witnessed

「全て ; subete 」-> everything

「おまえたち」-> you (plural)

「の ; no 」-> particle to indicate possession, works like an apostrophe

「築いてきた ; kizuitekita 」-> have been building

「全て ; subete 」-> everything

「に ; ni 」-> by

「否定されてきた ; hitei saretekita 」-> has been denied

= “So far, everything I’ve witnessed has been denied by everything you’ve built.”

The kita at the end of hitei saretekita is, much like the prior sentences, showing us that this denying has been continuing up until now.

That whole hero facade and the heroes pretending their failures don’t exist by sweeping everything under the rug is the reason why people don’t see the League as victims. Little Tenko wasn’t helped and has become a villain as a result of that, but heroes don’t admit this. They don’t care about what Shigaraki has to say; they refuse to see the dark sides that he has seen and then label him as the bad guy instead of recognizing that their system is flawed. This is also why the English translation isn’t really that great here. It’s not just about him being rejected, it’s about the fact that his truth is being denied. The system doesn’t just turn him away at the door, it doesn’t acknowledge his existence, to begin with. An existence that is filled with injustice and pain.

“Now I’m ready to reject it. That’s why I destroy. That’s why I took this power for myself. Simple enough, yeah?”

「だからこちらも否定するだから壊すだから力を手に入れるシンプルだろ？」

「だから ; dakara 」-> so

「こちら ; kochira 」-> this

「も ; mo 」-> also

「否定する ; hitei suru 」-> to deny

「だから ; dakara 」-> so

「壊す ; kowasu 」-> to break; to destroy

「だから ; dakara 」-> so

「力 ; chikara 」-> strength; energy

「を ; o 」-> direct object marker

「手に入れる ; teniireru 」-> to obtain; to procure

「シンプル ; shinpuru 」-> simple

「だろ ; daro 」-> I think; don’t you agree?

= “So I also deny this, so I break it, so I obtain strength. Simple, don’t you agree?”

Heroes have denied the pasts and pain of the villains, so now the villains refuse to accept this society. They deny this system the same way it has denied them all this time, too. And although Shigaraki is referring to himself, you can also exchange the “I” for “we” to refer to the other villains like him:

We deny this - The villains oppose the current hero system.

So we destroy - When all else failed and no one would ever listen, their last option is to break everything so they have to make a change.

So we obtain power - By showing people the truth, the villains obtain power instead. They get their voices back and get to live again.

“I don’t care if you don’t understand... that’s what makes us... heroes and villains,” is the end to Shigaraki’s speech and yet this is where a big change is made.

「理解できなくていいできないからヒーローと敵（ヴィラン）だ。」

「理解 ; rikai 」-> sympathy; comprehension

「できなくていい ; dekinakute ii 」-> don’t have to be able to; it’s okay to not be able to

「できない ; dekinai 」-> unable to

「から ; kara 」-> because

「ヒーロー ; hiiro 」-> hero

「と ; to 」-> and

「敵 ; viran 」-> villain

「だ ; da 」-> to be

= “You don’t have to be able to understand. Because you are unable to, there are ‘heroes’ and ‘villains’.”

This is a very interesting statement and one that is entirely accurate. Shigaraki says it’s okay that the heroes are unable to understand the truth. After all, his goal is not to educate them, but to destroy the hero system. But it’s because of their lack of understanding that there are heroes and villains. If people like Endeavor didn’t exist, then villains like Dabi wouldn’t exist, either. If people knew and understood the truth about Endeavor’s past, then he wouldn’t be a hero. What is the difference between someone like Endeavor and any other criminal? The divide doesn’t make sense when the sides are so blended together.

Overall, this speech is Shigaraki addressing the heroes to call them out for this ongoing facade they put up, pretending not to see the truth, not to see the victims that aren’t good enough. And despite the fact this speech addresses heroes as a whole, it perfectly describes the whole Endeavor/Todoroki family situation, too. And what’s interesting is that during all of this, the heroes prove the accuracy of this speech by ignoring it completely. Particularly Endeavor, who should feel called out here, who just thanks Shigaraki for the monologue so he could regain some of his energy.

Endeavor himself needed to see what Shigaraki was talking about since he first shows an actual reaction once Dabi revealed himself to be Touya. Shigaraki hit the nail on the head, yet Endeavor chose to not listen and instead continued to pretend not to see, but Dabi doesn’t let him continue to pretend.

In a way, it’s fair to say that a continuous theme of this story is the whole “actions speak louder than words” - Shigaraki could write a whole book talking about the problems with hero society, yet Dabi had to show up and reveal to Endeavor that he’s Touya; that the first-born failure of a son that got tossed aside when he was of no use anymore didn’t just die for no one to find out what really happened.

All these months of Endeavor regretting the past, yet not changing anything, not even acknowledging his wrongdoings; so now his own past came back. Because throwing Touya aside wasn’t the end. From the remains of Touya came a new lifeform - Dabi, who only exists as a villain because of Endeavor.

And with Dabi’s existence and Shigaraki’s existence, they can destroy the system that denied the pain of Touya and Tenko.

It’s such a good speech that perfectly captures the problem of the hero society, yet both heroes and some fans ignore it. Still, ignoring isn’t enough because now it’s time for the villains to strike back and put an end to a system that creates victims, labels them as villains, and then pats itself on the back for putting them in prison instead of admitting who the real culprit is and instead of helping the victims back on their feet.

As I mentioned at the start, the entire speech is essentially one long sentence, so here’s the full text both in Japanese and English:

「ヒーローというのはな。。。他人をたすける為に家族を傷つけるんだ。ヒーロー（おまえたち）は社会を守るフリをしてきた。過去。。。何世代も。。。守れなかったモノを見ないフリして傷んだ上から蓋をして浅ましくも築き上げてきた結果中身は腐って蛆が湧いた小さな小さな積み重ねだ守られる事に慣れきったゴミ共そのゴミ共を生み出し庇護するマッチポンプ共これまで目にした全ておまえたちの築いてきた全てに否定されてきただからこちらも否定するだから壊すだから力を手に入れるシンプルだろ？理解できなくていいできないからヒーローと敵（ヴィラン）だ。」

“The meaning of ‘hero’ is someone who hurts their family for the sake of saving strangers. You heroes have pretended to protect society. In the past… for many generations… you have pretended to not see what you couldn’t protect. You covered up the damage, shallowly built it up. As a result, the contents are rotten and maggots hatched from it. A small, small accumulation. Garbage, too used to being protected. A match pump that has created and protected that trash. Everything I’ve witnessed so far has been denied by what you’ve built. And so I deny this. And so I destroy this and get power from it. Simple, isn’t it? It’s okay if you can’t understand. It’s because you don’t understand that there are ‘heroes’ and ‘villains’.”

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The great book of sayings

PAIRINGS: Tomura Shigaraki x FemReader

SUMMARY: He looks at you, his scarlet eyes fixed on yours, burning a hole through your head, every bit the predator he is, but you are as tough as it gets, so, against your better judgment and any well-founded logic, you answer his silent threat, the animalistic look he gives you with nothing less than a fearless smirk, irises burrowing into his pupils.A clever girl. He thinks, finally labeling you inside his head, cursing himself in the very moment he allows his brain to think of you as more than an asset. He is sure (he knows himself enough to know) he’ll think of this moment many times from now on.A clever pretty girl.

Reader is a typical college student until she gets herself tangled with the league of villains.

WARNINGS: Unhealthy/complicated relationships, violence, Tomura being Tomura, mentions of murder, heroes’ abuse of power, smut, dirty talking.

A/N: This chapter is shameless smut, you are warned. Minors do not interact. go and read a book or something.

Any misspelled words, english is not my native language so i’m trying Helen.As always, let me know what you think!

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Chapter 14 / Chapter 15

Lovers ever run before the clock.

Overhaul really is just an uptight pretentious asshole, but Tomura lets his insulting remarks slide, trying his utter best not to snap.

He was supposed to be in a good mood today, but by the time Chronostasis puts the gun against his white locks, he swears that he will do anything in his power to completely ruin Shie Hassakai for this mess, already struggling to keep his temper at bay.

“I don’t want you to get hurt. That’s all.”

He’s never one to get distracted but it is difficult to stay focus when he cannot erase the feeling of her thighs caging his hips, her words rumbling inside his brain like a prayer for him to come back and take what’s already his.

It enrages him far more than he would like to admit, but he can’t go back if he gets killed, can’t he?

Luckily for them, Tomura kinda lacks that self-preservation impulse at the face of danger, so he stays there completely stoic and delightfully petty between Chisaki and the gun. The thought of her crying because he got his pretty brains scattered all over the Shie Hassakai immaculate floor makes him realize that he has yet another reason to hate Overhaul.

Really, what’s the matter with these people? they just keep adding points to their list, but sure, he will work with what he has (as always) by sending Toga and Twice into their ranks to gain some reliability after Chisaki told him about this ridiculous plan of curing society of quirks like it’s an illness.

And he thought que was an extremist.

It’s a dumb concept, really. People decide to be assholes, to be heroes, villains and such. There is a choice in excluding those like him from society meanwhile hero violence is idolized. But quirks? People don’t get to choose. Shit just happens. You can develop a cute little nice quirk that allows you to make bubbles or something ridiculous like, dunno, destroying everything you touch; but people can help it, it’s just the way it is. Nobody asks for it. Not even Overhaul, not even him.

And, even when Tomura can understand what Overhaul is saying about society being unfair based on quirks, his plan still sounds pretty nonsensical to him, who wants to destroy everything with his own hands, after all is that why he was born with such deadly weapon at the reach of his fingers. It would be nothing short but hypocritical and, despite the irony, he likes to think of himself as an honest person. His goal clashes directly with Overhaul’s, so no, he will keep the league interests to himself and for now will trust Toga and Twice to do what they do best without rising any suspicion about what he’s up to. Chisaki is more stupid tan he looks if he thinks Tomura will make blind eye to the audacity of his challenge and his continuous lack of propriety.

Oh, poor Overhaul. He doesn’t know it yet, but he already lost.

In the meantime, he’ll keep himself busy on more important and exciting matters. Hating Overhaul is something he can use as a motivation for more than just inner monologue, because you see, Tomura has a revenge to plan and a truck to steal.

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Things are different next time he sees you. Something primal and strange born from a sick sense of belonging that fills your interactions after the night you slept together, soothing his temper and bitterness into something warmer and far more intense that pulls and twist and burns to be close to each other.

It's been four days since they left the apartment to prepare the backhand against Overhaul and Tomura is sure that by that hour tomorrow Overhaul will have failed, leaving him as the great winner of his sensei’s title. (Not that he ever needed to prove it, but if Overhaul wanted to pick a fight, he would not be the one to deny his wishes.)

Tonight, however, has nothing to do with all that, not when he’s finally back.

You’ve been waiting for his return by the window, searching for his frame in every shadow, a mug of chocolate warming your hands as the soup simmered over the stove. A warm meal made for him every night in case he decided to return, guessing he would be hungry and cold, wondering if it isn’t too much (but you care for him, so you do it anyway).

A supposition that turned out to be true, but Tomura had another solution in mind.

He’s a starving dog all hunger and demand, a wild vicious thing that looks at you feral and maddened, dripping with want and something far scarier that you don’t dare to name (but you do know, don’t you?).

You are no better than him, not when your fingers had traced patterns with his name across your body, spelling dreams and fantasies from your lips, remembering the way his fingers filled you and you wonder if he touched himself thinking about you too. The answer comes rather messy the moment his jagged mouth whimpers how much he missed you between whispers and moans that to you sound like poetry.

And he takes and takes and takes with deaf hands and sharp teeth, leaving bruises with the shape of his fingertips burned all over you as he bites and scratch and pull-out whimpers and pants from your mouth that echoes the frantic tune of his heart slamming against his ribs because he missed you so much it was painful.

So, he had kissed you feverish, stomping you against the wall desperate and needing for your attention until you had pull him by the neck of his shirt to drag him into the bedroom, his brain completely forgetting about Overhaul’s existence the moment you push him to the edge of the mattress to sit in his lap, pulling the hem of his shirt for him to take it off, too focused in the heat prints your hands leave on his pale shoulders as something roars inside of his chest urging him to imprint his existence on your skin and possess the being that lives inside your bones.

Tomura paints a plethora of purple kisses over your neck and chest as a mark of his touch and your belonging. Something dark and twisted reverbing inside his ribs, inside his brain.

Mine; his mind repeats over and over again until he’s dizzied from the words, drunk in touch as your hands slither all over his sides, his chest and shoulders. His eyes marveling in the way skin holds together every angle of your flesh and the parts where your bones show from inside of your figure when he finally takes off your dress.

So soft, so beautiful and all his.

His kisses become raw and sharp and painful like the electric bond that ties you together by the ribs, all roughness and need, bruising lips and sinking teeth. Your moans and pants mixing now and then with some pained yelps and hisses of his name to call out on his harshness, but he chooses to make deaf ears to your pleas, too busy trying to gorge on your taste.

His teeth sink on your skin leaving marks like crescent moons that he kisses after you cry, pleasure and need pooling between your thighs, a tightness that burn inside your belly as you tangle your fingers in his hair, thinking briefly between the fog of your thoughts that it has grown, that it looks painfully beautiful on him like a crown of silver and moonlight.

Soon enough your legs lock around his bony hips, the choir of soft mewls and pants has become something far more animal; cries filling the room with each touch. White underwear remaining as the last barrier to your skin, leaving a wet stain over the fabric of his jeans.

The room turns unbearable warm as your kisses become more slopy and open, letting him take your mouth just how he likes it as he registers the way the skin of your torso presses against his bare chest, your warmth spreading over, suffocating him.

Hooking a finger on your bra cup, Tomura pulls down and reveals the flesh hidden under the layers of lace, deciding already that this is his favorite image of you. Covered in love marks, wet and underwear ruined, your bra tucked under the curb of your breast. Something obscene and desperate about it, more crude than mere nakedness and it’s exactly how he likes it.

It looks lewd, it looks nasty. It looks like everything he wants to make of you, so he tightens his hold on your waist, making your back curve a little up to latch his mouth to your breast, sucking hard enough to draw a loud moan from your lips as you dig your nails on the muscle of his arms, delight shooting through your spine.

“Ow…fuck…” you pant with each pull of his mouth, and he chuckles darkly against your chest, amused and smug because he has you and he knows it, a sinister part of him (the vengeful scary one that wants to kill and maim and destroy) screaming that you belong to him from now on, that you’ll never leave, that he’ll never let you.

Mine, and mine alone he thinks and the thought sounds jarring and loud inside his head as he leaves bruises all over the skin that surround the buds of your chest, making you gasp over his lap.

“What? Wanna say something?” Tomura teases watching your expression, your eyes going wide the moment he slides your panties to the side and press his fingers inside you without warning.

“T-oh…Tomura…fuck…ow” you try to articulate but the words come out as blurred whispers.

“No bickering now?”

“Oh god…Tomura…please” you cry trembling, mouth watering with every touch of his palm over your nerve.

“Please what.”

You hide your face on the crook of his neck to bite him hard enough to make him bark an excited laugh, rejoicing in the fact that you are marking him too, before hooking his fingers inside you to make you moan loudly; hips moving automatically as one of your hands reach the hem of his pants and unbuttons his jeans to touch him back.

“I want you inside.”

He lets out a pretty hiss the moment your fist close around his length, caressing him tentatively until finding a pace, giving you a little victory over his rough teasing.

“I wanna tear you apart” he growls reaching deep inside of you, a wolf like grin slicing across his face baring his sharp teeth “you are a mess. All wet and begging for me to fuck you.”

“Tomura…”

“Fuck…you are so wet, all for me…my good girl, my good girl.” The words pour out of his mouth in feverish tone as his other hand clear the hair off your face before catching your lips on his again.

“Tomura, please…”

He snaps, turning you onto the mattress to climb over your body, throwing his jeans to the floor before leaning between your thighs as his hardness brushes over your clothed center. His patience has run thin though, so he yanks the panties by one side, closing all five fingers over the piece of fabric that flews to the floor before transforming into dust.

He lines up with your center, feeling the intimate touch before thrusting deep into you, ripping out a high moan that makes your eyes roll back and your nails dig into his shoulders, leaving scratching marks all over his pale skin in an attempt to steady yourself as your walls burn with the stretching.

No, he isn’t gentle this time, he just can’t bring himself to be soft when he feels like the awful infatuation he’s been harboring inside is about to tear his ribs open, pouring out for everyone to see the bloody mess you’ve made of his heart. So, he thrust hard like punishing you for it, snaping his hips fast and deep into you, trying to leave a bruise mark inside as well as one of his hands tangles between your hair, pulling and making you scream to the rhythm of your creaking bed.

He bottoms out the moment his arm hooks under your knee, as you tangle your other leg over his waist, giving him deepest access into you, his tip planting kisses against your cervix, rough friction and raw closeness sending you over the edge because he’s fucking you hard, making sure your screaming can be heard from the hall of the building.

It's brutal, yet you give him everything he wants and more because you like it like this, you like it because is him. The warmth of his body covering yours and you wonder if he can feel it too.

The terrific need of holding onto his body, his wicked smile, his bruised heart. The horror of your attachment to a person like him and what this represents, at the brim of ruining your life for love…

Love.

You are so in love with him.

“Look at me” he demands pulling your hair, a feral snarl across his sharp face darkening his features before kissing you hard, his tongue filling your mouth in lewd motion. “Fuck, you are so tight…I wanna split you in half.” His voice is a coarse and maddened sound against your lips, so close and intimate it’s scary because he’s sinking so deep it feels like he’s trying to rearrange your insides and his words do nothing but intensify the heat.

“Fuck…Tomura…it hurst…you’re so rough…so rough” You manage to blurt out, eyes boring into his.

“And you love it, don’t you?” he snarls tightening the grip on your hair. “You like how it feels…like I’m gonna split your pretty cunt in two. Huh? Say it, say it…”

“Fuck…yes…yes”

“Yes what.” He barks in a particularly harsh thrust that makes you scream like a wildling.

“I love it…fuck…like that…I love it…I love it.”

“You are mine…you hear me?” he prays over your mouth half ordering, half begging for you to go down with it and say that yes, that you’ll never leave him, that you’ll stay with him “All mine to fuck, mine, mine, mine, MINE!” he growls with every thrust as the bed slams hard against the wall until you are a babbling incoherent mess.

His brutal pace and words get you quiet soon, too much to even make a sound and hardly even allowing you to breathe, too concentrated in the feeling of his length and him smashing into your ending wall as the overwhelming touch of his hips and his abdomen on yours burns your skin.

The brush of his hair and ragged breathing fanning over your cheek is the only compass of time while the tightness in your belly threatens to snap the moment your teary eyes meet his, mouth on mouth without even kiss, but you smile to him, your warm hand caressing softly the skin of his jaw as he tears into you, feeling incapable of telling him what the voice of your mind has been playing over and over again.

I’m in love with you.

Like sensing your thoughts, his hands abandon your hair. Four trembling fingers cuddling your cheek, carefully and almost scared before closing his eyes, letting his forehead rest on yours as he whispers sweet words of praise only for you to keep, still forcing himself in and out of you. His mouth watering to the sight of your bouncing breast still trapped by your bra.

“ow…I’m gonna..Tomura…I’m gonna…”

The snap of his hips become erratic when finally you come undone on him, eyes rolling back and a cry that tears your throat open when your walls clench around his hardness making him moan as he keeps thrusting in and out, reaching his own end soon after; his hand closing tightly into a fist over the mattress as he grunts with his face hidden on the crook of your neck, filling you warm and slick until he goes soft inside of you.

Tomura pulls out and rests his head on your chest, his heart hammering against your belly, still trying to catch his breath; his fingers tracing mindless patterns over the shape of your waist, as your hands slide between the tangled locks of silver, lips laying little pecks over his crown.

Time slows down, minutes passing and quiet settles, he notices.

Quiet inside of him.

This is all he wanted from the moment he crossed the umbral of your door months ago. The insufferable itch silenced by the calming thump of your heart, fluttering softly behind the gate of your ribs and he wonders if maybe you’d have a room by your core where he could lay his bones to finally rest for a minute from all the rage and hate that burdens him.

Maybe you do have one, hidden and unspoken, a mirror of the one you occupy in the graveyard of his chest where he holds you beautiful and bright and…everything he doesn’t get to hate.

Yeah, he thinks you do. After all, he’s lying in your arms, isn’t it? You had caressed his face and marked his neck and back, all teeth and nails, to then crown him with a wreath of kisses, your body soft and still under his weight, while your hands brush carefully through his scalp.

He knows the feeling, he’s not stupid…but he doesn’t get to speak its name yet.

Is not that bad, after all. Being attached to you and the lullaby of your heartbeat could make him better, smarter, stronger. You could be another reason to fight and destroy. After all, in a society as rotten as this one, you’ll never be allowed to walk by his side if not by putting a bounty on your head too.

What the media would say about you? Would they catalog you as an S class villain? since your quirk is as deadly as it gets, you would be feared and hated. You can practically kill by just looking at someone and he’s not even sure if you really need to look to your target, after all.

And yet you are the kindest person he knows. If someone of the hero commission knew about this, you’d be hunted down despite your service as a doctor, despite your resolution to help whoever needs it, despite caring for those rotten and downthrown. And since you are critical of the system, you’d be reduced to just another animal to put down. Just like him.

Tomura swears he’ll decay every single person on the world before let that happen.

“Tomura…”

He rises his head to look at you, a question drawn across his face.

“Can you…move a little? My bra is killing me.”

“Ow…sorry about that.” He apologizes, curious eyes over the mark that the elastic has left over your skin as he sits by your side.

“Can you help me? I can’t reach the clip…”

“Sure…”

You bend over to give him better access to your back, feeling his fingers brush over your skin carefully, before liberating you from the elastic straps incrusted on your flesh.

Tomura leans forward, placing soft kisses between your shoulder blades, letting his forehead rest over your spine and the touch is so sweet that it makes you wonder if maybe he does feel the same as you.

You get your answer when his hand moves forward to cup your breast, middle finger carefully up, as the other slides down between your thighs, making you sigh, feeling his hardness brushing your hip.

He nuzzles against your cheek, until you turn to kiss him deeply, warmth pooling between your legs again as his fingers play lazy between your slick entrance and the bundle of nerves. This time though, you take your chance and turn over, sitting on top before taking his wrist to lay kisses over the soft skin of his pulse.

Your quirk flares alive and before Tomura gets to catch on your intentions, his hands stand secured high against the headboard.

“What the…ow fuck!” He moans the moment your hand close over his length, pumping until he’s losing his breath, a ragged laugh scaping his jagged lips “fuck…you are an evil woman.”

“I should be proud if you say so.”

You accommodate over him, lowering until he fills you, pushing his previous release deeper into you.

Your pacing is torturingly slow and intense, soft moans and sweet whispers between languid kissed. Tomura watches hypnotized how your hips ride over the place you two connect, his crimson eyes half lidded as he lets you take him, before finally releasing your hold.

He touches you carefully this time, palming over the curve of your hipbone and your belly, index finger up as he wonders how deep is he, trying to feel himself from the outside, before pushing down to sink deeper into you, hitting the fragile spot where he makes you cry.

“I like you like this…” he speaks softly, looking you up from behind his eyelashes as you ride him slowly.

“How” your word is a whisper against his lips.

“Bare…” he rasps, his voice luring you into his embrace, spilling sweet nothing into his ear as he mumbles over and over again.

“My good girl…you are so good for me…”

This time you reach your peak softly. A sweet thing that fills you gently; walls fluttering around his oversensitive length while you keep rocking him until he stuffs you again, finally both falling back into the mattress side to side, already drifting into sleep, both tired and content.

A light touch catches your attention before falling unconscious. Tomura´s pinky hooks on yours as a silent plea, so you spill a peck over his shoulder before resting your temple on it, a sweet gesture that makes his heart tremble with fear and excitement for all the right reasons.

So, he does what he wants, sliding his arm under your neck and moving your head to rest on his chest. Over his heart he lays a fist for you to grip gently by the wrist before finally crowning you with soft kisses as the steady beat of his heart lulls you to dream.

Chapter 16 (soon)

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