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thinking about orvs metatextual engagement with its genre and specifically how that interacts with its women again. kim dokja is a self insert for the reader - what he thinks is largely meant to represent what we think, especially in the beginning before sing shong really fleshes out his character. kim dokja sees the world through tropes, directly acknowledging the genre around him and the cliches we expect e.g. the overpowered mc, the scheming villain, the beautiful heroine.
but a major part of his arc is deconstructing this reductionist view of the world in a way that parallels the author's deconstruction of the genre, and that plays really well with the way orv writes women. yoo sangah is perhaps the best exanple - shes introduced as the heroine, a one-dimensional pretty girl who in any other novel would become kim dokja's love interest. but the authors allow her to be her own character, directly challenging the stereotype of the heroine and calling attention to the genre's typical lack of depth for such a character. i think this undercurrent plays in the background often but really comes to the forefront when yoo sangah reminds kim dokja of her putting pepper in their bosses' coffee, a memory kim dokja had supressed because it didn't fit with the pretty girl persona he made for her.
i interpret that moment as yoo sangah pushing her way out of the mold of heroine often found in these stories, demanding a depth be added to her character, asking kim dokja - and thus the reader - to see her in her entirety, to see the heroine archetype for what she could be. orv is at all times in conversation with its genre, and its simultaneous writing of female characters with agency and depth and acknowledgement of the tropes these women are expected to fulfill is undeniably a part of that. and its a part i enjoy. most of the time.
#ok trigger warning for discussion of sa in the tags#ive been thinking about this in context with my discomfort with sa in orv specifically#i think its sort of related to this i think sa happens in orv not because sing shong is at all interested#in exploring that topic or discussing its place in this genre#i think its one of those things that 'happens because it happens' if that makes sense#and like i dont blame sing shong for not wanting to explore that topic#but i think it does stand out to me#especially in contrast with orvs usual depth and it's willingness to engage with heavier topics#like its implied that if kim dokja wouldn't have saved her han sooyoung would have been sexually assaulted possibly to DEATH!!!#and its so brushed over she never expresses any real feelings about it#honestly im just rambling in here but like. yeah.#thats why we have tags babyyyytt#anyway. coughs.#orv#omniscient reader's viewpoint
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“Nya and Jay both never say a word to the other ninja about Skybound” are you telling me Nya doesn’t TELL KAI THAT SHE DIED. ARE YOU TELLING ME NYA DOESN’T SEEK OUT HER BIG BROTHER AFTER A NIGHTMARE OR MENTAL BREAKDOWN OR IF HER CHEST IS A LITTLE TOO TIGHT THAT DAY. ARE YOU TELLING ME KAI CAN LOOK AT THE PERSON HE CARES ABOUT MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE WORLD AND NOT INSTANTLY KNOW SOMETHING IS DEEPLY, HORRIBLY WRONG??
THESE TWO RAISED EACH OTHER. NYA WOULD NOT KEEP THIS FROM HIM I AM PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF BELIEVING THAT
#‘alright grandma let’s get you to bed’ I’M RIGHT AND Y’ALL KNOW IT#look out Han’s Skybound posting again#I JUST HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ALL THE TIME#BBNB UPDATING ISNT HELPING IM KINDA IN AGONY ABOUT KAI RN#I’m losing my mind y’all KAI SHOULD KNOW. KAI SHOULD KNOW THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED TO HIS SISTER#sniffles they just mean so MUCH to me dude#kai#Nya#kai jiang#Kai smith#Nya Jiang#Nya smith#Skybound#ninjago#spinjitsu screams
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When you and your homie forget you were supposed to be promoting a crime thriller not a romance thriller
#백설공주에게 죽음을#black out#BYH@GJ: I love you (outta nowhere) is just so funny to me#it's not their fault#they misunderstood the assignment#I mean it could happen to anyone#sorry I just miss them that's all#go jun#byun yo han#blackout kdrama
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What I need at some point in the show is presumed dead Hen. First, because Hen doesn't get enough whump, and I need to see her hurt while trying with all she has to get back to her family.
But mostly, I love to get brutally murdered by Tracie Thoms's acting. So in this scenario, I need Chimney to be the one telling her about Hen being presumed gone. And I need Karen to tell him that if it's a prank again it's not funny. I need her to beg him to tell her that it's a joke, that Hen is fine, to tell him that it's okay, she won't even be mad when he tells her the truth, but just tell her the truth, please tell her it's not true.
And that's how we end up with the "Grant Gustin next to Oliver Queen's grave" meme, except it's Tracie laughing at the 911 fandom's grave.
#😃👍#don't mind me i just rewatched tomorrow so i'm in my henren feels lmao#of course this all happens in the course of one episode and karen can't believe it so she doesn't tell the kids yet and so denny and mara#never have to find out that one of their moms was believed to be dead. we just see them visit her at the hospital or taking care of her at#home at the end of the episode. because these kids have had enough.#911#henren#karen wilson#hen wilson#chimney han#*
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-Before it all went wrong-
tpom ship week 2024, day 1: coffee ☕️
Here’s some peaceful pre-whatever-happened-in-Denmark Skans watching the sunrise 🌤️
#tpomshipweek2024#tpom#the penguins of madagascar#penguins of madagascar#skans#tpom skipper#tpom hans#I’m honestly so curious about what happened in Denmark to make them hate each other THAT BAD#like they were probably so cute and peaceful and then they weren’t 😭#WHAT HAPPENED DREAMWORKS I WANNA KNOW#I mean the only plausible scenario is that they were together and went through a messy breakup#no one can convince me they were just friends#like only bitter exes act the way they do 💀
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@sofapup17 and I were talking and decided that it would be very interesting to see Ga On wear this sweater (which was originally worn by Woo Do Hwan's character in the drama Mad Dog). And, being the responsible artist that I am, I of course had to draw it.
And, I mean, with Ga On looking like that?
Yo Han won't stand a chance.
#The Devil Judge#Kim Ga On#Kang Yo Han#Gahan#Art#Fan Art#KDrama#Ga On is the softest boi#And Yo Han would be SO MAD#Because he hates it when he's not in control#And he wouldn't be able to help himself#Because Ga On is just too cute#And it's all just too tempting#Grumpy Yo Han is grumpy#You have no idea how many times Photoshop crashed on me as I was working on these two images#And how much progress I lost whenever it happened#We're lucky I'm so goddamn stubborn#Otherwise they might never have seen the light of day
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I’m such a sucker for scruffy men with sad eyes 😭
#i cannot stop myself#they are everything to me#cassian andor#obi wan kenobi#boromir#arthur morgan#elendil#love him in rings of power he’s just so#*chefs kiss*#fucking Gabriel Van Helsing#the one Hugh Jackman plays specifically#talion from shadow of Mordor/War#boba fett#Karl Heisenberg but that’s less a ‘sad eyes’ thing and more a ‘criminally insane’ thing#Will Graham happens to fall into both categories congrats dear William#Han Solo to an extent (I mean he sets the template for scruffy-looking but that’s an emotional trash pile I would not get involved in)#I have SOME standards despite what this list says#James Norrington also fits those standards he’s just so babygirl#I’ve noticed a lot of these are Star Wars guys#hm#maybe bc I’m on a SW kick rn
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i'm seeing talk on twitter about how maybe maddie AND buck will both get kidnapped... this is how we can still have buck nde 2025
#no but seriously this would be so much more interesting to me than just maddie getting kidnapped again#because to be honest we've SEEN maddie do all of that#between the doug thing and the taking of dispatch 911 and stuff we've seen her in these kinds of situations and she can take care of herself#but we should stop putting her through stuff. but obviously that won't be happening#but buck and maddie both being kidnapped and in danger together and working together about it... delicious i would love that#and the buddie and madney angst possibilities are endless <3#911#evan buckley#maddie buckley#maddie han#chimney han#madney#eddie diaz#buddie
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I’m fully convinced some fanfic writers took the writing room for 911 hostage and hasn’t let them go. I have no idea what to expect from the rest of the season, truly
1. Like best friend showing up at your first date with said best friends new friend. Said best friend that you might also be in love with and have thoughts of gay sex??
2. THE FUCKING CHIN LIFT WHEN TOMMY WENT TO KISS BUCK????
3. literally the whole basketball scene
4. Maddie and chim not knowing but not saying SHIT
5. EDDIE AND BUCK STILL NOT TALKING BY THE END OF THE EPISODE!!!! I HATE THE MISCOMMUNICATION TROPE FUCK
6. Quite literally buck rambling and spiraling and Tommy shutting him up with a kiss
#this show is so unserious#I have no idea what’s gonna happen#I’m just enjoying the ride now#911#911 abc#911 spoilers#evan buckley#chimney han#eddie diaz#maddie buckley#tommy kinard#buddie#madney#blue speaks
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Day 7: Brother in Law
@subscorp-week
#day 7: brother in law#subscorp#subscorpweek#subscorpweek2023#hanzo hasashi#scorpion#kuai liang#sub zero#bi han liang#noob saibot#okay THIS ONE WASNT ALSO FOR THE WEEK BUT IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO COINCIDENTALLY FIT-#kuanzo#kuaizo#this is my humor#laugh.
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Blessings Abundant | Explicit | 5.5k
“Let’s get this done.” “What?” “You want my first born.” “Indeed, I asked for it.” “So we’ll need to make one.” “Oh.” - Yoojin makes a deal with a fae to find his brother and is prepared to pay the price right there and then.
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#sctir#jinjae#han yoojin#sung hyunjae#my fic <3#I wrote most of this yesterday and finished at 4 am#I estimated maybe 2k when I started but they just wouldn't get to the point why would this happen <- writer in control of the characters#also it turns out writing Hyunjae pov is scary.#but I did it#also sorry to Kang Soyoung who deserves birthday wishes way more but I don't have anything for tomorrow#a crime for which you may execute me if you so wish
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I love singNsong again reminding people in Side Story that Dokja wanted other people to read TWSA (he wrote reviews and comments! It was his first wish), and he only stopped bothering because people harassed him for it. He didn't gate-keep the story. When he's avoiding talking to Sangah about it at the beginning of ORV, it's because he knows what happens when he tells people about the story, not because he's gate-keeping it from her. He notes he's not proud of his hobby (likely because he's been bullied all through his life, including for reading the thing he loves): he finds it embarrassing to talk about, and better respects her studying Spanish in her free time (learning another language is a generally accepted thing in society). He assumes she won't care or will look at him funny (or worse) for when she learns about the novel he's into.
Basically anyone writing "let's gatekeep ORV" posts because of the anime announcement or because they dislike the manhwa or some other weirdness, y'all are the villains in the scenario.
The literal climax of the story is about sharing ORV with as many people as possible. What story were y'all reading?
#orv#really tired of the stupid gate-keepy bs in some parts of this fandom#omniscient reader's viewpoint#kim dokja#side story spoilers#it's been quite fascinating seeing novel fanatics come out of the woodwork against potential anime fans#while showing how much they hate the manhwa and manhwa fans too#the only actual official English translation we have is the manhwa#acting like we're all in this together like no#I adore the novel and the manhwa#and folks who started with the manhwa or just happen to also like the manhwa but also like the novel see you for what you are#avoiding talking about something is not gatekeeping#it's often recognizing various social cues#like oh this person probably isn't familiar and I don't care to explain#or I'm worried they'll treat me badly if they know#when you're trying to connect with someone you tend to look for things you share not stuff you don't#if Dokja heard about people trying to gatekeep orv he would be disgusted#also NOT gatekeeping orv is literally the climax of the story I am so deeply confused by people encouraging gatekeeping of it#you're making han suyeong mad#she didn't nearly kill herself writing orv in order to share it to everyone they could find so people could gatekeep it#that is literally the opposite of the goal#it's not bad to ask if folks have read the novel because for a variety of reasons folks may not have#but it is bad to act like reading the novel is a fandom requirement especially given all we have is a fantranslation using MTL#or you must love the novel above others or the novel only#I want singnsong to get fucking rich from this story they shared and which I and many adore#gatekeeping does not make that happen#also good luck getting people to buy the Yen Press novel translation when it comes out when you act like this#the manhwa is available in at least seven languages officially fuck off with this gatekeeping crap#don't get me started how a lot of y'all don't even know what twatf is and a good chunk of y'all who won't even touch it when you do know#and that doesn't exactly bother me but it does bug me when book purists get all high and mighty
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Found this thought it was funny.
Reporters: Please do a *fighting* cheer.
#백설공주에게 죽음을#black out#not them fighting hard for that hand#they are such children#and so unserious#i love them your honor#just my thoughts#about what is happening here#go jun#byun yo han#blackout kdrama
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Me after A Certain Mister Sung’s Birthday arc:
#there is so much to unpack there#i cannot even comprehend it fully#i certainly didn’t expect THAT#i said mister sung likes to cause chaos just for fun but that is kinda a new level#yoojin asserts dominance#and then cutely sings him a happy birthday song with little cake#like hello?#and PARTNERS#it finally happened#from my item to my partner pipeline#he saved a possesive part#fucking simp#i stopped reminding myself that it isn't a bl and just consider it a romance now#jinjae#han yoojin#sung hyunjae#sctir#tsctir#my s class hunters#the s classes that i raised#sctir novel#sctir spoilers
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orv sketchdump while i try to recover from midterms burnout
#orv#omniscient reader's viewpoint#orv spoilers#han sooyoung#yoo joonghyuk#secretive plotter#oldest dream#art i made#is the text legible?? wtf happened to the resolution#i wanted to do a version of the traumatised and sparkly traumatised as yjh and kdj but i ran out of space and also patience#genuinely love that 1863 hsy canonically smokes bc WOW thats hot <- insane#most of this is just me clearing leaves out of the drain stopper but i'm actually proud of that ONE 1863 hsy. god i love her#anyway go check out my translation of eternal loneliness the chorus is very 51%kdj coded#kind of a weird thing to say about a song thats so much like. quotes from soure material by volume (its a tv show ost) but like. its true#世界隐隐作痛 像永恒孤独 你却留下爱 恒星如灯塔指引我重生 can apply to so many orv characters tbh#yoo joonghyuk? check. the oldest dream? check. 51%kdj? check (kinda)
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"In a pinch? Pretend to be a hamster!" Tune in next week for more advice from your favourite serial cheater skz fam Han!
#so much happened#it was such a mess#it was so perfect#ayen never not slays a role#i loved it#stray kids#han jisung#skz family#i love how han was always between happy to be there and sad to be there cause his fam can't stop shading him#just like he can't stop cheating apparently lmfao#his character is a walking red flag but we stan#skz code#september 2023#hanster#jeekies#glasses
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