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tls12lessthan3 · 2 months ago
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thinking about orvs metatextual engagement with its genre and specifically how that interacts with its women again. kim dokja is a self insert for the reader - what he thinks is largely meant to represent what we think, especially in the beginning before sing shong really fleshes out his character. kim dokja sees the world through tropes, directly acknowledging the genre around him and the cliches we expect e.g. the overpowered mc, the scheming villain, the beautiful heroine.
but a major part of his arc is deconstructing this reductionist view of the world in a way that parallels the author's deconstruction of the genre, and that plays really well with the way orv writes women. yoo sangah is perhaps the best exanple - shes introduced as the heroine, a one-dimensional pretty girl who in any other novel would become kim dokja's love interest. but the authors allow her to be her own character, directly challenging the stereotype of the heroine and calling attention to the genre's typical lack of depth for such a character. i think this undercurrent plays in the background often but really comes to the forefront when yoo sangah reminds kim dokja of her putting pepper in their bosses' coffee, a memory kim dokja had supressed because it didn't fit with the pretty girl persona he made for her.
i interpret that moment as yoo sangah pushing her way out of the mold of heroine often found in these stories, demanding a depth be added to her character, asking kim dokja - and thus the reader - to see her in her entirety, to see the heroine archetype for what she could be. orv is at all times in conversation with its genre, and its simultaneous writing of female characters with agency and depth and acknowledgement of the tropes these women are expected to fulfill is undeniably a part of that. and its a part i enjoy. most of the time.
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spinjitsuburst · 8 months ago
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“Nya and Jay both never say a word to the other ninja about Skybound” are you telling me Nya doesn’t TELL KAI THAT SHE DIED. ARE YOU TELLING ME NYA DOESN’T SEEK OUT HER BIG BROTHER AFTER A NIGHTMARE OR MENTAL BREAKDOWN OR IF HER CHEST IS A LITTLE TOO TIGHT THAT DAY. ARE YOU TELLING ME KAI CAN LOOK AT THE PERSON HE CARES ABOUT MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE WORLD AND NOT INSTANTLY KNOW SOMETHING IS DEEPLY, HORRIBLY WRONG??
THESE TWO RAISED EACH OTHER. NYA WOULD NOT KEEP THIS FROM HIM I AM PHYSICALLY INCAPABLE OF BELIEVING THAT
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existingingrey · 2 months ago
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When you and your homie forget you were supposed to be promoting a crime thriller not a romance thriller
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caroandcats · 2 months ago
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What I need at some point in the show is presumed dead Hen. First, because Hen doesn't get enough whump, and I need to see her hurt while trying with all she has to get back to her family.
But mostly, I love to get brutally murdered by Tracie Thoms's acting. So in this scenario, I need Chimney to be the one telling her about Hen being presumed gone. And I need Karen to tell him that if it's a prank again it's not funny. I need her to beg him to tell her that it's a joke, that Hen is fine, to tell him that it's okay, she won't even be mad when he tells her the truth, but just tell her the truth, please tell her it's not true.
And that's how we end up with the "Grant Gustin next to Oliver Queen's grave" meme, except it's Tracie laughing at the 911 fandom's grave.
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andradrawsstuff · 5 months ago
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-Before it all went wrong-
tpom ship week 2024, day 1: coffee ☕️
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Here’s some peaceful pre-whatever-happened-in-Denmark Skans watching the sunrise 🌤️
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lienwyn · 5 months ago
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@sofapup17 and I were talking and decided that it would be very interesting to see Ga On wear this sweater (which was originally worn by Woo Do Hwan's character in the drama Mad Dog). And, being the responsible artist that I am, I of course had to draw it.
And, I mean, with Ga On looking like that?
Yo Han won't stand a chance.
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melhekhelmurkun · 9 months ago
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I’m such a sucker for scruffy men with sad eyes 😭
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true-bluesargent · 4 days ago
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i'm seeing talk on twitter about how maybe maddie AND buck will both get kidnapped... this is how we can still have buck nde 2025
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dqmens · 8 months ago
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I’m fully convinced some fanfic writers took the writing room for 911 hostage and hasn’t let them go. I have no idea what to expect from the rest of the season, truly
1. Like best friend showing up at your first date with said best friends new friend. Said best friend that you might also be in love with and have thoughts of gay sex??
2. THE FUCKING CHIN LIFT WHEN TOMMY WENT TO KISS BUCK????
3. literally the whole basketball scene
4. Maddie and chim not knowing but not saying SHIT
5. EDDIE AND BUCK STILL NOT TALKING BY THE END OF THE EPISODE!!!! I HATE THE MISCOMMUNICATION TROPE FUCK
6. Quite literally buck rambling and spiraling and Tommy shutting him up with a kiss
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den-kunn · 1 year ago
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Day 7: Brother in Law
@subscorp-week
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transsongtaewon · 3 months ago
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Blessings Abundant | Explicit | 5.5k
“Let’s get this done.” “What?” “You want my first born.” “Indeed, I asked for it.” “So we’ll need to make one.” “Oh.” - Yoojin makes a deal with a fae to find his brother and is prepared to pay the price right there and then.
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fallloverfic · 3 months ago
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I love singNsong again reminding people in Side Story that Dokja wanted other people to read TWSA (he wrote reviews and comments! It was his first wish), and he only stopped bothering because people harassed him for it. He didn't gate-keep the story. When he's avoiding talking to Sangah about it at the beginning of ORV, it's because he knows what happens when he tells people about the story, not because he's gate-keeping it from her. He notes he's not proud of his hobby (likely because he's been bullied all through his life, including for reading the thing he loves): he finds it embarrassing to talk about, and better respects her studying Spanish in her free time (learning another language is a generally accepted thing in society). He assumes she won't care or will look at him funny (or worse) for when she learns about the novel he's into.
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Basically anyone writing "let's gatekeep ORV" posts because of the anime announcement or because they dislike the manhwa or some other weirdness, y'all are the villains in the scenario.
The literal climax of the story is about sharing ORV with as many people as possible. What story were y'all reading?
#orv#really tired of the stupid gate-keepy bs in some parts of this fandom#omniscient reader's viewpoint#kim dokja#side story spoilers#it's been quite fascinating seeing novel fanatics come out of the woodwork against potential anime fans#while showing how much they hate the manhwa and manhwa fans too#the only actual official English translation we have is the manhwa#acting like we're all in this together like no#I adore the novel and the manhwa#and folks who started with the manhwa or just happen to also like the manhwa but also like the novel see you for what you are#avoiding talking about something is not gatekeeping#it's often recognizing various social cues#like oh this person probably isn't familiar and I don't care to explain#or I'm worried they'll treat me badly if they know#when you're trying to connect with someone you tend to look for things you share not stuff you don't#if Dokja heard about people trying to gatekeep orv he would be disgusted#also NOT gatekeeping orv is literally the climax of the story I am so deeply confused by people encouraging gatekeeping of it#you're making han suyeong mad#she didn't nearly kill herself writing orv in order to share it to everyone they could find so people could gatekeep it#that is literally the opposite of the goal#it's not bad to ask if folks have read the novel because for a variety of reasons folks may not have#but it is bad to act like reading the novel is a fandom requirement especially given all we have is a fantranslation using MTL#or you must love the novel above others or the novel only#I want singnsong to get fucking rich from this story they shared and which I and many adore#gatekeeping does not make that happen#also good luck getting people to buy the Yen Press novel translation when it comes out when you act like this#the manhwa is available in at least seven languages officially fuck off with this gatekeeping crap#don't get me started how a lot of y'all don't even know what twatf is and a good chunk of y'all who won't even touch it when you do know#and that doesn't exactly bother me but it does bug me when book purists get all high and mighty
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existingingrey · 2 months ago
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Found this thought it was funny.
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Reporters: Please do a *fighting* cheer.
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rikan-oo · 9 months ago
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Me after A Certain Mister Sung’s Birthday arc:
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astranauticus · 9 months ago
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orv sketchdump while i try to recover from midterms burnout
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five-star-stay · 1 year ago
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"In a pinch? Pretend to be a hamster!" Tune in next week for more advice from your favourite serial cheater skz fam Han!
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