#and for fucks sake this is a fictional character

[royalcommunistthor]

tell you what these people neither care about thor nor they care about loki. they just need to WOOBIFY loki that's IT and who is the closest to loki and affect loki? thor. yes, poor loki loves their abuser and sends destroyer to kill his brother (and you will also find these people justifying this by saying loki wasn't in right mind)

they will often mention that they love thor but no one is falling for their bs. what do you mean that being an abuser makes thor more interesting. I think you have an affinity towards abuse babe if you should get help. projecting on a fictional character is not going to help in long run

thor keeps being thrown under the bus every two weeks because of his association with loki. dude's only fault is that he couldn't stop loving that greasy weasel even after enduring countless abuse from loki. loki clearly ruined his life

tbf woobifyng has been around since the beginning of time so like they had to do it to him i guess. i will never understand why it's such a persistent and universal fandom phenomenon lest of all why anyone would do /ALL THAT/ for a man played by tom hiddleston. but. that's not any of my business.

don't even get me started on the whole jotun thing. MCU LOKI DOES NOT EXPERIENCE RACISM, MCU LOKI DOES NOT EXPERIENCE MARGINALISATION OF *ANY* KIND, MCU LOKI IS NOT BULLIED BY THOR, HE IS CERTAINLY NOT BULLIED BY HEIMDALL. can't believe this is something that apparently STILL has to be said- over and over might I add- despite the movies spoonfeeding it to you. the deleted scene has loki torment a servant, another scene that has been kept in has loki saying a guard should be FLOGGED for *gasp* taking too long. mans talking about subjugation and birthrights for like 3 movies straight. HE IS THE BULLY, BITCH!

what loki's jotun heritage reveal in the mcu does is RECONTEXUALISE LOKI'S RELATIONSHIP WITH POWER (which is 😘🤌) it doesn't mean that loki hadn't been wronged but it also doesn't make him experience racial discrimination! if anything, loki is time and time again shown to have everything back to front (which is honestly what makes him fun)- he grossly miscalculates thor's 'golden child' status, he spits that odin could never have a frost giant on the throne of asgard and then sits on that very throne a heartbeat later BECAUSE HE IS SECOND IN LINE! he thinks thor will never forgive him or see him in the same light as before - AND THOR FORGIVES HIM AND LOVES HIM, LOVES HIM EVEN WHEN HE'S ANGRY WITH HIM OR FEELING BETRAYED. it's literally the constant in loki's life.

thing about mcu thor & loki is that they essentially start in the same place, i mean it LITERALLY & FIGURATIVELY. we see them orbiting their father, eager for his attention and praise; their flashback as children running parallel. THEY GROW APART AND CHANGE IN DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS which is THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT, as you know...a basic storytelling device, but they're very clearly raised as equals, yes odin says they were both raised to be kings but we don't really know what that means; was loki meant to be a puppet king of jotunheim or a different client kingdom? were thor & loki meant to co-rule? was he meant to be thor's advisor/shadow co-king? was this a line from an earlier version of the script that just didn't get amended or taken out? we might never know, but one thing is certain; being the second son of a royal family is not oppression. the way this fandom talks about him you'd think he's fucking cinderella.

i hate the whole abuse debacle but for argument's sake like a person who manipulates you into being punished and then also tries to kill you several times would be the abuser. thing about thor is that he doesn't see himself as a victim and i think that's overwhelmingly a good thing because it makes him a more interesting character and it makes his relationship with him family more complex, he's anchored in by that deep personal connection no matter what happens - not to cringe quote star wars here but he loves his family more than anything they can do wrong. and BOY, wrong they do.

[uptolovegood]

specially james.

don’t get me wrong, i love him. but he was a child? there was no way in hell this kid was genuinely going through so much and never once considered exploding. there’s no way james never shouted in sirius’ face because of frustration or got angry at remus and said something he didn’t mean. being a teenage boy— a scared, traumatized and frustrated teenage boy— doesn’t make him any less good of a character. while i love the whole james being a good person narrative, i also think it’s inhumane, at times. he can get angry! he can say mean shit! he can be rude! and all of it will never change who he is

Let the boys be prats.

Let James be tone deaf and inconsiderate.

The truth is that for a time they were, and in writing them as these saintly figures you not only make them static, but you are also disrespecting their growth. The moments were the war catch up to them — where it confronts them, those are pinnacle moments where we see their characters as they truly are. That is to say that writing them as the reckless, arrogant, cowardly, inconsiderate teenage boys that they were makes you appreciate even more who they grew up to be.

[xanderscollection]

"Growing up is realising a (random ship) you loved is actually weird and bad"

Yeah? Is it? Great, I love it even more. The worse it is the Better.

[mikalilys]

I absolutely HATE when people see their favourite character making a bad decision/messing up/having questionable morals in a fic and go

“that’s not my sweet little -name- they’re perfect and can’t do any wrong and this fic is now horrible because I don’t agree with how you wrote the characters”

like your right that’s not your sweet little -name- it’s theirs!! It’s the person who wrote the bloody fics characterisation and if you don’t like it then don’t read it omg

[luna-the-cretar]

You guys know on how, after Electrum Chef (not the episode but the event), Torbek and Frost (under the effects of the potion that made them into parodies of famous irl chefs) went off into the other room to fuck, and then when they came back the potion had worn off?

Do you guys think the potion wore off before, during, or after the fact?

[kasaraku]

What the hell is happening here.

I'm seeing people mad and being overly weird with Tsukasa's popularity. I mean, sure, he's a boy and he's also cool, but to having to find out the fandom is misogynistic (I am too late for that), is downright making me want to just never know about this fandom at all.

What's wrong with people in PRSK rn??? I'm seeing Tsukasa as the least favourite in the fandom and always get into problematic things when they're someone who's a Tsukasa fan. I mean. Come on guys. Let peeps like us have fun. You leave our boy.

I mean, sure, I can see that people like Tsukasa because he's a boy, but the number of people I've seen that also likes to make Tsukasa a woman and wear feminine outfits are a LOT. Clearly, it doesn't make us falter about liking him if he were to be a different gender (maybe there's some, but I'm talking about those I've seen on the internet). Some say he wouldn't be forgiven if that's how he acts in the main story as a female, yet there's still a lot of people out there who still didn't forgive him as a male. They can get away calling their faves (boys mostly) ugly, annoying, 'hate', and other stuff, but girls not?? I've been calling my girls Mafuyu, Minori, and Shiho dying hamsters and dependant bitches, so seeing how people won't accept that kinda upset me.

Please, and I mean it, PLEASE, stop being a misogynist and actually try to learn about that character and why people like them. Don't just think about gender for ONCE.

(If there's a mistake, correct me.)

[australet789]

some popular people on twitter being like "episode 2 of Hazbin Hotel makes the audience relate to Valentino even if he is a rapist"

And I'm like... it does not? Just because a villain says ONE joke doesnt make it relatable? I have yet to see ONE post defending the moth bastard, EVERYONE in the fandom wants him dead.

Sure, some are lusting for him, but that happens with villains with good character design.

I dont know, I feel this people, specially on twitter, REALLY lack critical thinking and instead of doing a good analysis, just fail into "this one line makes this villain a more dimensional character, therefore, they are endorsing whatever bad action they are doing" and that's not it

[somewhereincairparavel]

I'm actually appalled at how gatekeeping, aggravating and Percy obsessive the pjo fandom is when you say you like Jason as a character or say ANYTHING good about him at all. I've had such horrible experiences, like why the dirty look ffs? I'm not a "true" pjo fan if I like Jason?? Bffr it sounds like something an 8 year old would say

Like I came across a YouTube comment appreciating Jason and Nico's closeness as friends and the replies HAD to be "oh L take. Imagine liking jason. Percy was much more brotherly and affectionate with Nico than Jason was" like ??? This is isn't about Percy?? Not everything revolves around him?? People can like and appreciate others too? How come I NEVER see these comments in a Leo or Nico post?

Or those stupid Instagram reels where ppl go "The people who like Jason isn't one of us" like this ain't a cult ma'am you aren't special for for making Jason lovers feel unwelcome. It seems to be some kind of trend.

Liking Jason isn't a fucking disease and people aren't obligated to have Percy as a favourite. Get over it, the world isn't going to end. I swear I didn't want to come off so aggressive here but this is seriously a very toxic and offputting trait the fandom has that NEEDS to fade over time.

[graysongraysoff]

We talk a lot about the puriteens reinventing sexism and stuff but sometimes I feel like we're getting close to an extremely selfish and hedonistic anarchy on the terminally online zillennial end of the spectrum I'll be honest

[shinraelectricpowercom]

Current Events in Silm fandom rlly reinforce my feeling that, despite claiming an ethos of acceptance/tolerance of anything that doesn't hurt ppl, a lot of ppl in the section of Silm fandom I frequent do follow a set of socially-agreed-upon mores about what concepts are "not acceptable" to discuss or propose (or the ways in which certain topics must be discussed to be acceptable), that you all seem to have agreed on despite the things those mores restrict not being harmful to anyone.

And when someone does say smth that violates those mores, the response is disproportionate to the amount of harm done (which is typically none, imo). I know it's tempting to say "but we just want people to be comfortable and safe", but treating ppl badly for the sin of sharing thoughts you dislike is NOT the same as preventing people from doing things that are harmful. The former is much more of a harmful behavior than the sharing of the thoughts that sets it off. Fannish etiquette, people: you shouldn’t act like someone’s meta makes them morally suspect just because you disagree with it; save the “this is morally bad” for things that are ACTUALLY harmful. We're all stuck on this website together & if you want to have any sort of community, you need to ACT like you're in a community, and that means letting other people say things you dislike. Block them if you need to! I block people all the time because i know it's better for me AND for them if we can both blog in peace.

I am not particularly comfortable with the young-queer-on-tumblr silm fandom rn due to this tendency to rebuke things that are uncomfortable rather than harmful. Maybe that's fine with you. But if your goal is to make all fans feel comfortable and accepted, you need to actually do that. If your goal is to make people who share your unwritten rules comfortable in your space, you need to admit that, and write those rules down, and curate your space so it follows them.

Edited 8:10am PST to clarify the specifics of the behavior I find concerning.

[obessivedork]

It's been years and I still can't get over Naruto's disbelief that Sasuke choses revenge over returning to Kohona during the Kage Summit arc. Like bbgirl he left the village to train with Orochimaru -A MAN WHO OPENLY WANTED TO TAKE HIS BODY FOR HIS OWN- to get strong enough to kill his brother, you think he's gonna NOT double down when he knows he's already fucked up any chance of him having a future in Kohona anyways? My GUY!!!

[i-cast-zone-of-truth]

*me reading any literary fiction* God these people are miserable

[padfoot-lupin77]

Characters will show basic human kindness once and be labeled as the softie-cute-pure-baby meanwhile they could easily murder someone and probably curse like a sailor, they’re just *also* kind

[djsangos]

//y'all ever see a post in your fandom tags so godawful that you feel yourself entering rage mode for JUST a moment and then you're like. oh wait. i don't fucking care about you. ignored.

[schroedingerscryptid]

okay honestly...let me be real here for a quick second

i see a lot of people hating on capvers shippers and like...okay, i see where you're coming from, but at the same time...they do have a right to ship it imo. sure, it was a glimpse of his backstory, and honestly there's not much you really can be doing with it, but why the fuck should that make you tell people that they're dumb for wanting to write or make art about it?

ultimately, the dynamics between havers and the captain aren't discovered all that much, while pat and caps have much more grounding and depth. but at the same time, by saying that people shouldn't be at the VERY least writing or making art about it to express their thoughts is a pretty shitty move.

fandom is about letting people have fun, and saying shit like this just because "you're correct" is inherently what has and will continue to affect the experience in the long run. and personally, even though i myself am not someone who ships it or really knows where to go with their relationship (to put it simple), i'm not going to shame people or make them feel bad for finding this largely underdeveloped relationship interesting or having fun with it.

[creat1vecreature]

This is Henry

sorry but i’m tired of books/media with softcore trans guy protags who are wimpy and anxious and never stop thinking about how trans they are and have a flowery little romance with a guy who calls them cute. like that’s all good and fine but where are my trans guy protags who are straight up gross. evil. covered in dirt and blood all the time. give me a trans guy character who spits and kills people and fucks to the death and doesn’t give a shit about shit PLEASE i am begging you