#and adult fans aren't as active with fandom stuff

[melis-hellis]

y'all don't understand how goddamn happy i am....i love smiling friends!!!!!! i love smiling friends so so so so sooo much

[nonokoko13]

Hi, how are you? 😊💗

I just wanted to thank you for all the support through comments, asks, and tags. We haven't talked, but I'm still very grateful for the affection. Thank you dear 😭💗

You don't need to thank me!!! I love your art and you are a very nice person so I have to let you know! I'm happy my comments and tags can bring you a smile, it's the least I can do everytime you appear on my dash 💖💖💖

Also I'm fine, thanks for asking dear! Wish you have a lovely day too!!!

[theheirofthesharingan]

This is going to be a strange question, I think. I'm in the Naruto fandom peripherally. Kind of on again-off again, but I've always loved Itachi. I'm in another fandom as well, but I've run up against a similar issue in adoring controversial figures in the works. With your other asks, you come across as very much put-together. Seen it all twenty years ago kind of thing. So I was hoping for some advice.

How do you handle a fandom that treats a favored character poorly? It's not just the weird hatred, but it delves a little deeper. Like in fanworks that display the character as being a pedo even though it's not just unsubstantiated in canon, but pretty antithetical to the character himself. I can block and mute people on AO3 and other areas, but I guess it just gets to me. I know it shouldn't. Maybe I'm hoping for a coping mechanism or something.

Thank you for your time!

I think the deeper the love for the character is, the more it will piss you off. And the only way to survive this is that we grow a thicker skin. Even then, it can get under your skin, so I totally understand how you feel. I've always been drawn towards unpopular characters or the characters who were hated in the fandoms, so it's been hard for me to get into those fandoms, and if I did, staying in them was painful. Although, I've been active in only one fandom before Naruto, and it was exhausting there too.

The best way to deal with it would be that you ignore all the negative content on the characters and discuss things in your own little circle. When you write fics or create art, expect that circle to be your main audience. Everything else positive is just bonus. I avoid googling stuff about Naruto because I end up disliking most of the nonsense that's available on the characters. I haven't seen Itachi's portrayal as a pedo anywhere (are people writing that shit too about him, huh?), but I'm aware there are fics in which he's portrayed as a cold/abusive/manipulative person, which is completely not his canon personality. If there are people who believe those things, no way they're not writing anything like that in their fics, too.

And another thing he's a victim of (other than having a cancerous fanbase that measures his goodness as a person and a character based on his strength and skills instead of his complexity - which any sane fans of his would find disturbing) is all the misinformation about him. Why did they choose him to spread hate so much with all this. It's just so weird. These people aren't as intelligent as they think they are. And for me, it's super hard to take them seriously, because how do I take into account the opinions of the people who lack critical thinking and reading comprehension?

Sometimes I feel the foundation of the fandoms isn't love for the characters, but hypocrisy because so many feelings are involved and people don't realize when they're falling into this trap. They love one character for one thing in one fandom and then end up hating another character for the same thing in the same (or another) fandom.

For example, Itachi is an irredeemable criminal for killing people (after being groomed for years by adults around him) because he's pro-Konoha. But killing people if you're against the system is totally okay and characters like Madara/Pain/Obito shouldn't be antagonized for waging wars and dragging millions of innocent people into their ambitions more than Itachi ever did. Their manipulation, slow poisoning of the people's minds they influenced to achieve their goals is completely alright, solely because they're just trying to change the system. Similarly, Sasuke is "emo and edgy" for not being the sunshine after all the horrors he lived through and then wanting to destroy Konoha, but Obito waging war on the world makes him a "broken hero." These two species live on two different planes - one is dominant on Tumblr and the other on Insta (and both are probably on other platforms too, idk).

I guess it all will always be there. And so will the people who mischaracterize Itachi, Sasuke, and other characters. You can control some things but not everything. I've been in the fandom for a year or so, and I'm still ignorant about most of the things here other than ships. Basically this:

I might have gone off the tangent and I hope you got some answer you were looking for.

[princess-of-the-corner]

Ya know, I imagine if someone highlighted the difference between how a lot of fandom treats Lila & Chloe VS Gabriel & Nathalie the justification might be:

"Well, Gabriel & Nathalie are supervillain evil, unrealistic, Lila & Chloe are petty, annoying real world bad which is familiar & so less fun."

The issue is, Gabriel & Nathalie are 100% on the petty, realistic, annoying train of villainy and if anything are much worse & less fun.

What with Chloe on her evil train still needing to rely on Gabriel's pettiness to impact Adrien, or them commissioning Lila to damage Adrien's relationships. At least Chloe's dramatic & bombastic.

Not sure where I am going with this.

I think its just vexing to see fan stuff, especially really good fan stuff, give say, Nathalie a redemption arc, or Gabriel tons of depth. But then turn around and say Chloe & Lila are just dumb, nasty & or bad.

Even in stuff where they aren't portrayed as monsters they still tend to get shafted in favor of abusive adults who should have known better compared to kids actively raised to do bad things or led into it.

You're gonna tell me the 13-14 year old girl able to con at least 3 women into thinking that she's their daughter and keep up three whole identities while also getting dirt on the local supervillain to /become/ the new local supervillian

is more 'realistic' than a father who only sees his son as his precious little doll that should do whatever he asks without question?

[gala-art]

Hi! I recently come across your art on pinterest and found your blog thanks to the link. I apologize in advance for the errors in the text, because I speak English poorly, I write through a translator (hello from Russia!). I just want to thank you for the atmospheric and cute drawings (of Daryl and Beth), I often review them. I am also an artist, I have an audience (1,500 people have subscribed to me on the VKontakte social network), and I wanted to ask you if you have come across any hate to the fact that you paint Bethyl? If you have encountered this, how did you react to it? On Pinterest, I often noticed people who strongly hate Bethyl, saying that they have a big age difference and other age-related arguments (in my personal opinion, meaningless arguments that can be strongly argued with, but it's still a shame when cute pairing is condemned from scratch). Because of such people, I'm a little afraid to share the art related to this couple. Your advice will be useful to me. Thanks in advance for the answer!❤️

Hello! Thank you so much for your kind words, and for your ask. I'm always excited to meet other artists and fans who support bethyl. They are a beautiful ship. I love to hear that you have a following for your art in your home country. I would love to support your art. If you ever consider sharing it on tumblr, or if there's a way for me to find it on pinterest or elsewhere, please let me know!! The bethyl community here is still active and very supportive.

In response to your question: Yes, I have received hate on my art. And I know that many of my friends and our fellow shippers have also received hate even just for posting their opinions about bethyl online. It's unfortunately not that uncommon, though as I've heard, it used to be a LOT worse. Unfortunately, there are people on the internet who think that they are a kind of "morality police." It's usually because they simply want another character to end up with Daryl in the show, so they use any excuse to invalidate ships they don't agree with. For bethyl, that happens to be the age gap. It often results in all kinds of bullying. Name-calling, harassment, etc. I've seen people refer to Beth as a "kid," even as that is clearly a lie.

As you said, and as we see here, there are of course arguments to be made, ie: Daryl and Beth are both adults, it's a fantasy, it's a fictional apocalypse setting, shipping something or liking something in fiction doesn't mean you'd condone it in reality, etc. etc. etc. Unfortunately with these people, none of that stuff matters. It doesn't feel good.

SO. The best way to deal with it is mostly to just ignore it. In the past, I've mostly just told people to go away. If you're being harassed, block the person, report them on your platform if possible. The last thing I try to do is argue with them, because it's pointless. I also try not to let it affect me and my love for bethyl and my experience as a fan artist too much. The thing to remember is that bethyl was and still is very popular. Most people don't care about the age difference. Most people aren't sitting around and thinking up ways to make other fans miserable. Being a part of a community, if possible, is the best way to fortify yourself against antisocial bullies. Having friends and mutuals on your platforms who lift up your art and support you, and who you support in return, is the best defense against haters. I have made many friends in this fandom who I will cherish always. That's why I am here.

On that note, try not to be afraid to share art of the couple you love. This is a hobby, a passion that we take part in for free. And there is nothing morally wrong or "problematic" with bethyl. Haters will make that claim, because they will say anything to bring other people down. If people are put off by the age difference, that is of course their right. They are entitled to their opinion. But that is JUST their opinion. It doesn't mean that their opinion is more correct or better than anyone else's, no matter what they say, and it DEFINITELY doesn't justify hate and abuse. So surround yourself with friends and a community of people you enjoy. Even if it is very small, it's enough! Ignore the haters, and block/report them if they become a problem. They will always be there, as haters are a fact of life. So we just have to persevere. That's my advice. I'm very flattered that you would ask for it ❤️

[zvtara-was-never-canon]

I don't understand why zutarans think that Dante Brasco and a writer or two shipping zutara means anything. This mostly applies to the writers, but do they seriously not understand that people who work on tv shows aren't a hive mind and are allowed to indulge in non canon ships for funsies? Like, pick any random tv show or movie or whatever with an active shipping scene, and that writer's room is probably filled with crack shippers. That doesn't mean they hate the main couple. Just means they're regular nerds like the rest of us. And just because they like a non canon ship doesn't mean that person secretly plotting for it to be canon. Like they have this bizarre fantasy of a cartoonishly evil Byrke looming over the writers and artists on the show with whips to make sure they don't write or draw Zuko and Katara making out like they all really want to. I've seen zutarans speak about the show's staff as if they deeply regret not making zutara canon and aren't deeply proud of the work they did on the show. I can't speak for the staff but I feel comfortable believing that they're perfectly fine with the outcome of the show, it's legacy and probably don't think Aang is the devil incarnate because he kissed Katara and not Zuko

As for Dante Brasco, yeah that dude can be weird about the zutara but he's just a voice actor. He has no creative input or control over the show and I think he only pushes zutara because it means more attention and focus for Zuko which means more attention for himself which he likes and probably hopes will somehow lead to a career boost or at least more Zuko work.

Zutarians are still obsessed with "winning" a ship war that they already lost all the way back in the mid 2000s. They cannot understand that to any sane person, the writers very much included, shipping is supposed to be about fun. They think any writer saying "I like Zutara" means "I hate Kataang/Bryke and hated working on the series" because they only work in extremes. "One us or one of them."

Also I've literally never seen Dante be "weird" about Zutara or any ship and each time people bring it up the exemple is always "Oh, he's an adult talking about a ship between children" like all the romance in the show wasn't written by adults, and like most of the fandom aren't adults themselves. Like you pointed out, talking about stuff related to one of the most famous characters he ever played is part of his job. He'd be weird if he was harassing people over it like lots of zutara fans do, but he isn't.

[repurposedmeatlocker]

🔥🔥🔥 abt beavising butthead...share as many hot takes as you want i'd looooove to hear your thoughts and feelings :3

OH BOY OH BOY *cracks knuckles*

Obsession with which character has the "highest moral ground" is tired and unnecessary. Especially for a program like Beavis and Butt-Head. I've noticed a lot in cartoon fandoms there seems to be a focus some people have on which character is "evil and bad" and which is "pure and good". I don't know where this concern stems from, but it doesn't interest or make sense to me. Real people, and therefore fictional characters, are more complex than that. The fact that this argument surrounds young/child characters is even weirder for me, because I find that age is rife with bad behavior. Back to Beavis and Butt-Head though, while I do think a lot of fans are unfairly harsh in their perspective of him. I don't think Beavis is "morally higher" by any standard. They are both horrible teenage boys that find beating the shit out of each other entertaining because there is nothing else to do.

(speaking about the original series here, since I haven't completed the 2011 and 2022 revival yet) While I think the writing got way better and funnier in the later seasons, I kind of miss the "natural edginess" of the earlier "crude era". It has this messiness that I find super endearing. I can really see how the show got popular with teenagers/young adults back in the day since it really did feel like the script was written by some degenerate boys rather than adults trying to figure out how high schoolers act. There is a lot of horrible topics in the earlier season related to intoxication, animal abuse, and general illegal activity. A lot of it is 100% shock value. I'm glad it moved away from that, but also I admire the...grungey realism, I guess.

A lot of older fans complain about Beavis and Butt-Head reacting to clips of TV shows in the 2011 season and Youtube videos in the 2022 revival. I personally love it. I think they should react to everything possible. Some of their best lines come from their impressions of this stuff. I don't care if it is just being used as a way to "promote" that content. The music video reactions are doing the same thing. It is all promotion. Just very creative and based on hating which is inherently more entertaining. On that note, I've also seen the complaint by OG fans going around about how Beavis and Butt-Head feel like they aren't "metal-heads" anymore? Or it is just not as overt in their characters anymore since they don't react to metal music as much as they did in the original run. Personally, I...don't think they are any less metal-heads now than they were before. Maybe they aren't exclusively defined by it like they were in the first episodes. I think the question of "why is there less metal music in the show" has more to do with music culture when the show airs than it does with the actual writing. Which is kind of interesting. Generally, metal and rock doesn't make up popular music spheres the same way it did in the 80s and 90s. There is still rock music, but I don't find a lot of popular stuff being extremely "heavy" starting around the mid 2000s when the 2011 series was airing. If you'll allow me to get deep for a sec. The choices of what Beavis and Butt-Head react to during the show's entire run is a pretty interesting picture of popular US culture, actually. Anyway...I do think they could hit a bit heavier and varied in their music choices in the new season. Have them listen to hyperpop or something. I think they would love 100 gecs.

[iamamythologicalcreature]

Holy fandom this shit is big.

Okay, so I've been exploring the Simon Snow fandom this evening, and now my head is exploding.

I feel kind of old. Or maybe just late. Or both. I mean, the last time I was active in any fandom was...a very long time ago. Things were smaller. Way smaller. We had forums, and email lists. (I hate how I'm likely dating myself, but I was very young and now I'm no longer so young. It happens to most people.) Anyway, you could be a part of a fandom and actually get to know just about everyone in it. Maybe this also had something to do with my choices of fandom, but it was also before the big explosion of social media that brought everybody else to the internet, clogging it all up. (I'm not bitter.)

So now, I'm adult-aged (I hate saying that though, it feels like there are expectations). And I just read this amazing trilogy of books, and I think to myself, "You know what? This is worth it. This is worth diving back in, because I bet this fandom is awesome."

This fandom is awesome. And big. Like. You all have wikis to keep track of things, but this stuff has exploded so quickly those wikis aren't even updated (no shame to the wiki-makers, at all cause as I'm saying, this shit is big). The AO3 count is off the charts. You have discord servers and about a million Tumblr pages, and screencapped memes that have become... What do you call it when it's fan-created and not canon, but it's so well known it's like canon? Whatever it is, there's a ton of it. (Everywhere I look, Penelope has purple hair.)

I have to say, I am simultaneously thrilled with this and intimidated as hell. Every time I think I have something new to say, I find someone else has already said it. This makes me a little nervous about saying anything because this thing is so big I can't possibly know for sure I'm not repeating something that's practically old hat to the rest of the fandom. Like, "Yeah, sure, we see your point, but we saw that point in 2019, here's a link to the original post."

*deep breath*

I will never catch up on fanfic. Not ever. (I'm going to try, and I'm kissing my goodreads yearly read goal goodbye to do it, but still.)

Curse me and my policy of waiting until all the books are out before reading them...

I've never seen anything like this fandom. I've never tried to throw myself into anything like this fandom. If you're at all concerned, I am absolutely still throwing myself into this fandom, and I'm going to write fanfic (slowly), and draw (eventually), and I will quite willingly wear the big HI I'M NEW HERE WHERE IS REGISTRATION? sticker on my forehead. Because, I mean, it's Snowbaz. What wouldn't I do for them?

I just thought you should know. This is big. And I love it. But seriously, freaking huge. (Yeah, I can hear myself. "That's what she said." There you go. XD)

*ahem* Carry on.

(Edit to add: I've continued my dive since writing this and I literally am sitting at my desk, clicking, saying, "Oh my God, you guys are amazing." Just... over and over. And over. So many clicks. So much amazing. This fandom is dedicated and I love it so damned much.)

[metalcorebarbie]

Yuuppp. Everyone is focusing on the more egregious dm from the other account and ignoring the way he actively put one fan in the cross-hairs of a whole fandom. I don't think it was *malicious* but it was very predictable and unnecessary. (I'm also just very wary of when fans aren't able to acknowledge their fave may have made a mistake. I still love oliver! I just also think he messed up here.)

Yes exactly!! And he is an adult with lots of resources so lashing out should not be his only option, especially when it’s because of something that literally doesn’t matter at all.

I have said for years that he should figure out a better way to deal with his social media if it really takes this much out of him. He could hire a social media manager who posts for him and reads comments for him so he doesn’t have to. He should stop doing q&as or if he does want to do them, let someone else pick the questions for him so he doesn’t have to see the weird stuff. Disable all commenting. Set clear boundaries to how you want strangers to interact with you.

Obviously there should be a line that we should never cross when we interact with these people and all fandom stuff should stay in fandom spaces, that is also true. And obviously the more serious stuff like threats should never be tolerated. But I don’t think it’s that funny when he says something mean and there’s no real reason for it. If your tolerance for stupidity is this low you need to log off. Send screenshots to your friends and complain privately how insane your fans are. Now he basically sent those same people he thinks are insufferable to a fan’s account to wreak havoc.

I do love him too but I am not going to defend him when he acts like this. And I’m just seriously sick of people letting their faves get way with everything. He is a rich, white 33 year old man. He does not need me to defend him, especially when he’s also at fault in this situation.

[purgatory-hotel]

new pinned post ogh

hi everyone 😁 this is my blog for my hazbin hotel rewrite, purgatory hotel! I post updates on Instagram under the username purgatory_hotel. there's a mini hiatus since I'm working on finishing the first chapter then uploading it bit by bit

for as long as I've known about it, hazbin hotel hasn't really entered my mind like. at all. until the show came out. this is because I kept seeing other people's reimagining of these characters and so I got invested (and also I recognised Keith David so I decided to watch it 😭)

I don't really like the show to be honest. some bits made me laugh but it wasn't really my cup of tea, although the concept itself is good!

uhhh. uh byf and all that:

purgatory hotel isn't a project made from spite (even if the spite store arc of curb your enthusiasm was one of the funniest /silly) but it's just me fixating on something for no real reason and getting silly with it

I don't really post criticism unless it's relevant to my rewrite or if I feel like yapping. however I would like to run over Valentino and canon Stolas with a combine harvester. if that upsets you then I suggest you stay away

I don't think ph is "better" than hazbin hotel either. obviously I prefer it because it's my own project, but again this isn't a thing I did out of spite, even if I personally don't really like the creator

hellaverse fans are free to interact/follow, just be nice and civil

I'm an adult (20) this isn't an adults only account but I'd say it's like,,, 13+ for the most part? anything sexual will have a warning and obviously won't be for little uns, but I doubt I'll post anything that is explicitly 18+

dni. only putting this since I'm mainly on mobile and I can't block side accounts from the Tumblr app

being against certain identities such as neopronouns or xenogenders. obviously if you don't understand them then that's fine, so long as you're civil and try. I mean actively being a nob about other people's personal identity/expression

fairly obvious but transphobes, homophobes, racists, etc etc. typically I wouldn't put this but I've seen some pretty alarming posts from critics and fans alike

antis who are horrible to any and all hellaverse fans. if they're on your dni that's fine I get that, but if you harass them for liking a show then you need to get a job and/or hobby

tag guide:

#not ph - things that aren't related to purgatory hotel specifically

#viv crit - mainly reblog stuff. primarily for organisational purposes. just things for me to look back on and take into account when working on ph

#fan crit - same for viv crit but surrounding the fandom

#critception - some criticism is just straight up doo doo feces and I will waffle on about it

#other rewrites / other redesigns - self explanatory. things I like to share and/or take inspiration from

#ask to tag - if there's something that may need a warning but I'm not sure what to put. it's just sort of There. you can send me an ask or a dm telling me if you want me to put a specific tag on something. I'll tag almost anything aside from scars and food and I won't tag for more specific triggers. this is just to prevent me from getting muddled up in case I forget to tag something. this isn't me having a go at people with more specific squicks or triggers (I've many of my own)

[bluejayfiredancer]

Okay so I’m just now realizing that these books actually have a fandom? And like- more than the original three books?

You’re probably like “oh you poor little anon” but there’s sequels and stuff? There’s MORE? I’m screaming and laughing and crying over here dear god, I’m so incredibly out of touch

I read them years ago and loved them so so much and now desperately want to reread them all and find every single other book that goes along with them (and if you could provide like. A list of other books? Just explain everything that’s out there?). This is gonna be amazing

this made me smile so much haha, welcome to the party! yeah we definitely exist even if there aren't that many of us - I'm guilty of not being super active myself lately, but I've been a hardcore fan since the late 2000s (posted in an Inkworld-only forum and everything lmao) and am not planning on changing.

sadly it's really mainly the three books, but a sequel is coming sometime in the future, titled The Colour of Revenge. it's going to be Dustfinger and Prince-centric as far as we know, and I don't blame you for being unaware of it because I don't remember seeing much promotion for it in English, if at all. you can read an older (likely obsolete but still interesting) version of some chapters transcribed/translated by @schleierkauz (and other related goodies) here

in addition, Inkworld shares a universe with Cornelia's other series, Reckless, so that's also something you can also check out while waiting for TCoR.

I love rereading these books as an adult, they hold up really well and part of the fun is going 👀 at things you missed as a kid. I hope you'll dive in and join us in our endless, uh, fan activities here!! I need more Inkworld content and couldn't care less about what form it takes - fic, fanart, meta, shitposting, fan music, incoherent yelling, whatever!

[ohwiseswami]

Let's Talk Stans For A Second

This post is a long time coming (and will be very long by the end) but I've been thinking about it a lot lately. I'm tired of kpop stans treating adult idols with kid gloves, so here are a list of grievances on this point.

A lot of this mostly applies to bg stans.

Idol Critiques. It's fine if you wanna baby actual minors, but stop excusing every fuck up of adult idols. On the opposite end of the spectrum, stop admonishing other fans (or even casuals) who make entertainment out of the things your favorite member says/does. I don't really stan people but I do have favorite groups/members, so I'll use them for example. I like Yeonjun, some people find him extra. This is not my problem and I don't care. I like some NCT songs. Some people see them as a noise factory. Doesn't matter, it's not their preference. My point is, stop getting mad over people having opinions. As long as no one is like actively in Doyoung's face bullying him or something, I don't see the problem in critiquing/openly disliking something your faves do. And when I say bullying, I really mean bullying (like going to someone's face and harassing them for existing, calling them slurs, insulting them when they've done nothing wrong, etc.). Not stuff like being upset with Dream for constantly bullying Haechan for his weight and skin color.

Idol Perception. So many stans get upset when others' perceptions of their faves aren't the same as theirs. So-called soft stans get upset if you think an idol looks sexy with their hair pushed back. I don't usually see hard stans get upset at soft stans about too many things but I do think they can be very hypocritical about perceiving idols. For example, some hard stans will list out every single thing they want San to do to them but as soon as someone even jokes about Wooyoung being an icon for the bis they get extremely aggressive and protective (even when it's not coming from a sexual angle!!!). It's almost like they see anything non-heteronormative as inherently sexual, but even worse, it's sexual and perverted to them. Suddenly, they're all about protecting the idol's image/privacy/dignity when moments before they were talking about wanting him to cum in their eyeball. And don't get me wrong it happens with soft stans and gg stans too, but I wanted to point out the particular hypocrisy of straight bg stans.

Idol Image. This is very similar to the perception point, but more so about the way so many kpop fans think they know EVERYTHING about their faves including their faves inner thoughts. Do you all know how many times I've heard things like: "OMG!! Don't do/say that because Taehyun doesn't like it!! Source? Just trust me, I have an *emotional connection* with him!!" stated in complete seriousness? It's one thing to JOKE about idols becoming their real selves when they breathe the good old red, white and blue air, but to project your specific thoughts and feelings onto an idol (without clarifying that it's your headcanon) is too much. Y'all do NOT know these people. Joke (and hell even speculate) all you want, but it's obvious to everyone when you've have stopped joking and have crossed the line into wanting to literally just lying about what idols have actually said to fit your narrative of who they are (a good example of this is the unnie/hyung line raised the maknae narrative every fandom has).

Idol Image pt. 2. And on this note, I want to address the other part of the fandom who think any speculation/gossip about an idol is unacceptable/inappropriate/morally wrong. I feel like I've said this in the past but it merits repeating: if you are a public figure, you sign up to be discussed up to a limited extent. Clearly, people should not go out into the world and stalk/harass idols. It's just that idols are not immune from a little drama about being seen at a club or having a significant other, etc. Idols are celebrities. They have a public side and a private side. Obviously, fans need to know the line between harmless gossip (and even news reporting of actual crimes...) and harmful harassment. It seems like fans of non-kpop idols completely understand the assignment. For example, there's gossip all the time about Shohei Ohtani (especially now that he's being accused of federal gambling crimes), but his fans are not out here wearing capes about how you shouldn't discuss certain things because it's *private*. I feel like as long as you're being normal about it (i.e., not harassing idols) and treating gossip as what it is (unconfirmed information), it's human nature to want to know things/know the truth of things that have evidence. Examples of relatively normal gossip includes wanting to know: if an idol has recently had cosmetic/plastic surgery, if an idol is secretly an asshole (or a sweetie pie) off-camera, if an idol endured harsh training conditions (or, alternatively, if they were the golden child who got everything they wanted), etc. Where it crosses the line is trying to find out their address/phone number, unsubstantiated allegations of crimes (like what happened with Beomhan), etc. I feel like people engaging in gossip culture should and often do know the difference between those things but fans treat it all as harmful if it doesn't specifically serve their fave. I can personally attest to seeing the same fans who denounce gossip culture loving that very same thing when it supports their view of their bias. For example, whenever there's rumors about idols who treat staff very well no one has a problem with it. Or rumors about idols practicing all hours of the night (meaning they're a hard worker) or rumors about them being very close to their members (meaning they're a team player), etc. But let there be a harmless rumor that doesn't suit their narrative (like the idol having a romantic partner, the idol being a club bunny, etc.) and suddenly it's "all gossip is bad and I'm better than those who engage in it because what they do offscreen is none of my business." Meanwhile these same people have entire headcanons about their bias based on some cookie crumbs they heard about him being a good person one time. 5. What is a Koreaboo, anyway? In case someone needs to hear this again: liking kpop, being attracted to your bias, learning korean, being interested in Korean culture, and making friends who are Korean doesn't make you a koreaboo. What makes you a koreaboo is reducing korea down to kpop and othering korean things as utopian/godly/divine, when it's just...another country that's different from your own. Too many kpop stans will accuse someone of being a koreaboo when that person is just interested in kpop (or korea because of kpop) when that's not what a koreaboo is. It's like calling a korean person an americaboo because they want to travel to NYC or LA and love American entertainment (dramas, music, etc.). What would make someone an americaboo is if they had an unhealthy obsession with all things US to the point where they had wholly out of touch assumptions about the US and reduced the US down to those few assumptions. THAT's the difference. But liking American movies, culture, celebrities; wanting to learn english; etc. wouldn't make someone an americaboo... So just apply the logic in reverse.

Anyway.

[golbrocklovely]

I’m not in the snc fandom by any means and I have no plan to do so but being just a causal fan of them, I have seen the way their fans act towards them, especially Colby. It always leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.

I sincerely wish these guys would start setting more boundaries with their fandom. There are sometimes where I see replies to their tweets or just looking up their users on twitter because I’m a nosy rosey sometimes and the things some of their fans say to them, especially Colby is just horrendous and down right yucky. It seems to be getting worse in my end too. The way some of their fans treat Colby likes he’s stupid, slow or like a child is just so gross. He’s a human being. It’s one thing to make a joke, but it’s another thing to treat him like he was born literally yesterday. It sometimes feels like infantalazation. Like this is a huge problem and I just wish that Colby would put his foot down about it. Hell, when everytime there’s a girl involved in his life everything goes haywire towards him. I just feel so bad for him at this point. if I had fans and they were pulling stuff like this, I wound definitely say something, and start muting/ blocking people if it started getting too much. Maybe Colby hates confrontation which I can totally understand. Maybe he hates drama as well. But if his fans keep getting away with basically being overbearing and weird, they’re never gonna treat him like a human.

I also have a hunch that he might be neurodivergent and has anxiety. I see a lot of myself through him. He does a lot of things I do. But I don’t wanna diagnose him because I personally don’t know him like that. I just hope he has a good head on his shoulders when it comes to this type of stuff. and I also just hope one day some of his fans grow up and stop treating him like he’s a dummy when he’s a very intelligent person. It drives me nuts when people do that to him. He clearly is very smart and very empathetic. A bright soul who deserves so much better. 🩷

this ended up being extremely long so... sorry about that haha

i getchu. i understand not wanting to join this fandom. tbh i only really enjoy the fandom on here and that's about it. insta there barely is a fandom, the tiktok fandom is too young and just makes shit up 90% of the time, and twitter…. is insufferable lol

and i completely agree with you about the treatment of colby. it's a weird mix of both treating him like a sex doll and treating him like a baby, which makes both behaviors all the more gross.

like i'll be honest, i don't love all the decisions he makes, and i have talked about that on here countless times. however, i don't actively tell him on social media how to live his life (aka i don't @ him on twitter when he does something that annoys me like a lot of other fans do). and at the end of the day i accept whatever he wants to do with his life. me complaining on here about some of the questionable ppl he has in his life isn't even half as bad as what i've seen on twitter, especially when it comes to some of the girls he occasionally is seen with.

over the years it's gotten worse, and i'm not sure for what reason. it feels like the fans started out on the right foot. they care about colby and don't want to see him get hurt. and i get that, i feel the same way. but at the same time, he's an adult. and in life you're gonna make some dumb decisions, and be friends with dumb ppl that you shouldn't have been. and that's your choice. and that's your mistake to make.

i think part of it is a lot of fans think they are owed a part of colby's life and having a say in it. maybe bc they've put time, effort, and money into being a fan, maybe it's bc they feel like they are friends with him and thus think they can say shit that a friend would say even tho they are a complete stranger to him. and while i can understand somewhat why someone would feel that way briefly, it doesn't change the fact it's not true. you aren't owed anything just bc you've been here a long time or bc you buy merch. so what. you aren't special in either one of those regards.

and when it comes to colby and his dating life… oh boy, that's where most of the drama lies. again, a lot of it comes from fans not wanting him to date a questionable girl. understandable. i get that protectiveness. however it has become very apparent that NO GIRL is good enough for him. fill in the blank on whatever reason, it doesn't matter. there is not a single girl that exists that everyone in the fandom can agree on. and that just shows that a lot of the concern comes from both jealousy and, if we're being completely honest, misogyny.

certain fans are jealous they will never get a chance to be with him, no matter how many y/n insert fanfics they read. and no girl is good enough bc nine times out of ten the reason is bc of something sexist like she's a slut or a gold digger or isn't pretty enough or is too pretty or isn't as good as other girls.

my favorite phrase, highkey, is when a girl is seen with colby, ppl start hating on her and then when asked why someone doesn't like her they respond with "idk she just gives me a bad vibe." lmao happens like clockwork.

all of this is to say that a lot of fans, while they love colby, don't respect him. they don't trust him to make his own decisions bc in their minds, he can't make the "right" ones. and thus needs to smothered into making the right one. and if he doesn't do that, then he deserves to be bitched at for eternity.

tbh i'm surprised colby tolerates half the fanbase at this point. if the fandom isn't yelling at him for breathing wrong, they're making fun of him. and while it's fine to be playful and banter with him, there's a difference between a one off comment and constantly picking at everything he does down to whether or not he has facial hair. like… why are we talking about his body hair? yall are weird for that one.

if i was colby, i wouldn't have fans anymore. bc i would blocking ppl left right and center. idc that you supported me for a long time, if you're mean to me, you're gone. and i ain't gonna listen to (usually) a child yell at me for fucking a random girl (or maybe not even fucking a random girl). that's why last year i wanted him to go chaos mode. i wanted him to fuck every and any girl that said yes strictly so fans would come to the realization that YOU DON'T CONTROL HIM.

get over it or gtfo. it's really that simple.

and as for whether or not he's neurodivergent, that's obviously something he would have to explore himself. i personally have always thought he might secretly have depression and definitely anxiety since he's talked about that part himself. there's a lot of things he has done in the past that make me think there might be something under the surface and reminds me a lot back when i was in denial of what was going on mentally. and there are times he gets into funks, and you can just see the light drain out of him for a bit. but in the end, that's for him to explore and seek help for if he so chooses and feels the need to. i would hope if he truly did ever feel bad he would ask for help.

he's a very strong person and has such a love for life. i just hope he lives it to the fullest. i truly just want to see him happy.

[danganfan42069]

About me

hi im danganronpafan42069. he/him 20↑ latino

some tags: my post and stuff - my opinion and stuff - big mood - for me <3 - ask - my negative tags for you to block if you want to masterpost

Danganronpa is one of my biggest guilty pleasures, i can count on my fingers all the things i like about it and genuinely think are well made. But i like some character's concepts and sometimes the dialogue and story are so ridiculous and absurd that i end up having so much fun.

Im not that active on the fandom and barely consider myself to be a part of it because almost all my opinions about ships, characters, storylines and the game/anime in general are very unpopular. I'm just happy minding my own business and vibin in my corner ^_^

Feel free to disagree with me and/or block me if something here makes you uncomfortable, but please don't try to start a discourse. I don't intend to change my opinion of anything and i don't want to change yours (unless you're respectfully asking my more detailed opinion about something), we're just going to waste our energy and waste our time on this.

i am very happy following this mentality here and i think you should try it too!

My favorite friendships and hcs of their relationships (WIP)

ps (this is kind of obvious but i think it's important to make it clear): i don't think these characters or ships that i don't like are problematic (i mean with exception of haiji i think) or think fans of the ship/character either (whole game is problematic if you think about it), it's just not my cup of tea

Tiny Q&A:

What are you referring to when you say "anti"? It's not the ant1 vs pr0ship discurse, it's someone who is "anti-some-ship-that-is-totally-fine-and-legal-by-law", the problem happens when this person in question is too immature and can't respect other people's opinions so they are chasing those who like their notp being inconvenient and annoying (and sometimes they even trivialize very serious social issues and topics)

Are you pr0shipper or ant1? I'm a grown ass adult. I work, I have a family, I have better things to do than use these internet bubble terms and discussions. I think incest and mainly minor/adult (ped0philia) ships are really fucked up even though they are fictional and/or trauma coping but I also think it's really fucked up to harass and make death threats??????? I don't want any of that on my screen so i block them all (and i also report if I think it's too fucked up)

My little disclaimer i have on any post of mine:

My little disclaimer i have on my opinions/headcanons post

A few warnings first, since you're here to read it I recommend reading these paragraphs extra to avoid stress for you and me :)

Almost everything I'm saying here about the characters is obviously MY OPINION and how I feel about the characters and their actions and not a concrete fact. I just want to express my opinion as many people in the fandom express their negative opinion about my fav characters and I respect that, so why can't I do the same? I know my opinions are unpopular, but that doesn't make them any less valid because opinion is something personal and there is no right or wrong

I'm censoring character names because I know some of my opinions are negative so I don't want to spoil someone's good time by having my post appear in the character's main tag. I'm also even saying in the title if it's a /pos or /neg analysis and I have a unique tag for my opinions (which you can block if you want), so you're proceeding at your own risk

I don't need to be so respectful with the characters because they aren't real, but I think we all should be respectful with who likes or doesn't like the character, because these are real people and have feelings.

And obviously I don't think someone liking or disliking this character doesn't make them a "bad, stupid, inferior or problematic person", it's just their opinion and deserves respect too

To be honest I'm not posting my opinion with the intention of changing someone's opinion or starting some kind of debate, I just want to express my opinion and that's all. It's like a public diary, it's one of the definitions of a blog after all ^_^

(About my headcanons) This isn't exactly a theory or an attempt to change anyone's mind and I know that none of this is canon and most likely not intended as I see it. I'm just want to talk in more detail about my headcanons and my lines of thoughts on them.

[dessert-archives]

Hi welcome to my blog where I post vore art and reblog vore stuff, you can call me Dessert! In this pinned blog we'll go over my dni, my sona and boundaries, as well as the fandoms I'm in!

Dni

My dni consists of the typical list:pedos,zoos and other degenerates aren't welcome nor are bigots like homophobes and racists.

A quick disclaimer any vore things posted on here are non sexual, not to be confused with sfw I personally still consider it nsfw due to the fact I would rather die then show my boss this. So most of my content will be tame but I may do some more suggestive stuff either on here with tags or on a side blog. Now I don't mind folks who view it sexually interacting but request it be kept respectful

But also I do not want minors, adults who interact with minors and ageless blogs to not interact as well. Ageless blogs will get a bit of grace if they interact with other adult only blogs since I feel like I can generally trust that but if I find any of them interact with minors I will block and warn said adult blogs at their discretion in private. This is mostly for my own comfort as I don't feel comfortable with my content being interacted with by minors at all, failure to respect this boundary will result in a immediate block. If you really want to interact wait until you're actually 18,seriously otherwise you will not be getting a second chance.

Sona

This is my current sona, of course there will probably be variants due to context but this is the general idea of what I'll use to represent me. Their name is dessert and can go by any pronouns, however I would prefer they/them or it/it's to be used unless the post says otherwise or I tell you I am comfortable with it.

Quick set of boundaries

-fan art is welcome

-interactive/roleplay replies/art will be limited to mutuals only, you are free to ask permission for this however

-fatal vore is a extreme hard no for this character unless discussed in private

-as stated before people who view vore sexually are welcome to my blog but I would rather my sona not be sexualized, if I feel this boundary has been broken I will block you

Fandoms

Honestly I kinda hop to fandom to fandom so I'll just list ones I'll probably make content or head cannons for that have characters I'm invested in. I will be just using a acronym and the tag I will probably use or censor the title of the fandom

-TMA, probably one of the oldest fandoms I'm in. Probably not a lot of current content but if I have something in mind it'll be under #The Nom Archives

-re8, also an old one I have a fic I might rework as well as some idea for head cannons so it'll go under #Resident Prey or something like that

-pres///sure,honestly no tag for this one yet and honestly kinda falling out of it but if I post I'll probably come up with something and update it

-op, uhhh honestly this one is on and off for me, but I'll probably use #Nom Piece

-cotl, most recent obsession so gonna be using #Cult of the Nom

So that was it, I've been on here for a while but been really needing a new pin so here it is! Really excited to hopefully be more active on here and get some mutuals!

[jamesgreycaster]

I completely agree. I'm not into reading rpf myself but I don't begrudge that it exists, nor do I even judge writers/readers into it who put it out there. Unfortunately with nouveau fandom I fear this kind of situation will keep happening because you have millennial and younger public figures like the boys and Huge who grew up on the internet but not in fandom, who don't know that typically there's meant to be a forth wall boundary protecting fans from their fan works being accessed by the people it's about.

These fics aren't being written with the intention of it being accessed by these guys (nor are the writers pretending what they're writing is fact, it's fictional stories based on fictional perceptions of real people), and these guys need to stop actively seeking out content that's clearly labeled with what it is if they know it'll make any of them uncomfortable. You chose to search for dead doves, opened links labeled dead doves, then were surprised to see dead doves in there.

Like people who write taskmaster fic even tag their stuff Alex do not read, yet we know he is still out there, accepting the adult content disclaimer and then being surprised it made him uncomfortable. Like how is this not a lesson y'all aren't learning.

For anyone on Tumblr that's heard the Hugh Davies Off Menu episode, what did you make of it? It's the one where guest Huge brings in some Ed/James fanfiction that he found, and reads excerpts he found funny to them. Ed was fine with it, James did not take it too particularly well, at the time I found it funny if a bit awkward and just felt kind of bad for James, but shrugged it off as 1) fanfic is very seldom written with the view that the people involved are necessarily as they are in real life, rather than that they're characters with a backstory inspired by real people, because of course no casual comedy fan that listens to/watches a standup, TV show or a podcast actually knows that comedian as a person, and so it cannot possibly reflect who they are as people. And 2) fanfics are not meant to be read by people they're written about, I suppose. Whatever.

I stumbled across the Reddit discussion about it a while ago, I'm surprised that they got so heated about it. Especially with the whole 'how do you as a person make something and so confidently put it online' thing. I wouldn't think of AO3 as a 'published' site. It's not too different from scribbles in your diary or a standalone blog, is it? In the sense that AO3 isn't promoting or pushing your writing out to anyone else, nor is there any incentive or gain in writing these whatsoever. I'm also personally not in the habit of bullying amateur writers, but I wonder if that's just because Tumblr has pulled me out of that sort of berating thinking entirely.

Off Menu reddit seems to think the author 'crossed a line' with this one, I think if any lines are crossed, it has to be either Huge or the Off Menu creative team deciding to go ahead with reading out that fanfic despite James' comfort levels. Like James has full right to be uncomfortable with people's depictions of him, but the line here lies with whoever decides to read out parts of it to him.

I don't know, what did you all make of it?