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i'm still holding onto the faint hope that race/lineage also plays a role in determining last name and not just faction, but i would now like to evolve that speculation into "one of the human surnames had better be amell again"
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canon compliant amell-hawke family tree. feel free to use it as a base for your own. characters we don't know anything about and i named for my uses are revka's husband and their 5 children, that are all mages. (kinloch hold amell would probably be a bit younger than 22, as they're only getting their harrowing, but it wasn't fitting my timeline otherwise)
under the cut some background on the characters in my worldstate:
marian started as blue hawke, then aften death of carver in lothering and bethany in the deep roads she moved to red hawke. she's still kind to everyone she considers her family, but very protective of them, and often rude to outsiders. supports mage rebellion and anders' actions. she's a lesbian in a poly relationship with isabella and merrill. her weapon of choice is two handed ax, but she's proficient with all melee weapons.
lucas marin, son of antivan small-scale pearl merchants. his parents went into conflict with a competitor who had contacts amongst the house nero of antivan crows, who were then contacted to eliminate marin family. lucas managed to escape antiva fearing for his life, and in kirkwall met revka amell and tried to start a new life. when his eldest daughter showed magic potential and was taken by the templars, and soon after his wife's family collapsed and revka herself disappeared, he took remaining four children and kept moving: first across the marches, then to ferelden and finally orlais, but every single one of his children showed magic potential and ended up being taken by the chantry no matter how he tried to protect them. when he lost the youngest, twins, he decided to stay in orlais, not seeing the point of running any longer.
aderyn, eldest amell daughter, was taken into the gallows at some point in 9:10. by the time of 9:30s she was an enchanter specializing in force magic, she was also involved with the mage underground, helping other mages escape, especially ones that had the biggest threat of being made tranquil. she had the opportunity to escape herself, but stayed to secure a few more escapes, and was killed in the templar raid in 9:37, soon before anders blew up the chantry, at the age of 42.
yorath, the 2nd child, was brought to the ostwick circle where he befriended idris trevelyan and vivienne. unfortunately he was not skilled with magic enough for the circle's high standard and the templars decided him not able to attend his harrowing. he was made tranquil in 9:16 and worked in different circles since then. in 9:41 he was the first person to have his tranquility reversed by the inquisition, using the knowledge found in seekers' book of secrets.
gareth was early showing an impressive talent for spirit healing and learned under the tutelage of senior enchanter wynne even before taking his harrowing. yet soon after he helped his friend jowan escape, which marked him as a potential blood mage. knight-commander was still undecided whether to sentence him to tranquility or sent to aeonar along with initiate lily, but he decided to wait for the return of the templars and mages dispatched to ostagar. as soon as that happened though, uldred rebellion started, templars locked the tower until the arrival of the hero of ferelden. as tabris cleared the tower he encountered gareth fighting for his life, and learning about the situation, he invoked the right of conscription to get him away from the tower. gareth didn't go through the joining, but his close friendship with the warden and his actions during the blight granted him temporal immunity from the accusations. later he joined the rebellion alongside most of kinloch mages, and then became inquisition's main healer.
hefina was sent to the white spire and studied elemental magic under senior enchanter adrian, who also recruited her into libertarian fraternity. after the rebellion started hefina was dispatched to look for any displaced or abandoned mages andtranquil around the free marches. she was ambushed by a group of templars, but surprisingly saved by two passing antivan crows. the crows had an ulterior motive as they needed a help of a mage in their current mission and traded her life for assisting them. incidentally she also learned that her father was not, in fact, hunted in antiva, the hit was just for his parents and there was nothing personal going on. hefina helped the crows and then decided to stay in antiva to work with them more, giving the mage rebellion useful ties to the organization.
merfyn, twin bother of hefina, went to montsimmard circle where he aligned himself with the loyalist fraternity. he was progressing in his studies to become a knight-enchanter when the rebellion started and he joined first enchanter vivienne as a part of loyal mages staying with the chantry. he encountered a group of antivan crows who first took him for his sister hefina, which was when he learned that she is with crows, but he assumed that she was kidnapped. he asked vivienne for permission to go rescue his sister, hoping to recruit her to their cause, which vivienne allowed. when the twins finally reunited hefina explained that she is actually working with the crows willingly, and more than that, she is also a part of the rebellion. they were in the middle of a political argument when the news of the conclave explosion reached them, pushing their discussion to a later date.
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I'm really tempted to put one of the Amell siblings in the Gallows instead of another Circle but it only makes sense for it to be Tosława. Who was made Tranquil. It's so good narratively but it feels so cruel
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Amell Family Timeline Discrepancies
DA2 truly has a horrendous lore issue, and world of thedas does little to improve it.
It's truly sad what happened to the Amells, isn't it? I still remember Grandmother talking about the balls that Lord Aristide used to hold at their estate and the Antivan violin players and dancers from Afsaana. No expense was spared and no one would dare miss it, lest someone think they weren't worthy of an invitation. And then poor Revka had the child. Magical talent, running in one of Kirkwall's most prominent families? The templars had considered Lord Aristide to be viscount after Threnhold's arrest. Can you imagine the scandal had he been chosen? They whisked the child away to the Circle, and the Amells simply had no luck after that. Leandra ran off with a Fereldan mage and then Damion was accused of smuggling. Poor Lord Fausten almost bankrupted his family trying to get the charges dropped, but I hear Viscount Marlowe simply wanted the Amells out of the picture. And it worked, too, didn't it? By the time Lord Fausten got sick, there was only young Gamlen left and a mountain of debt.
I spoke to Dulci just the other day, and apparently Gamlen is now living in some Lowtown shack—sounds like the sort of character you'd cross a street to avoid! And let's not even talk about the estate.
Mother says we should remember the Amells because that sort of thing could happen to any of us. You know the old saying: "A Marcher's fortune rises and falls with the tide." If you ask me, this is just another misfortune that magic brings to honest folk. Andraste help that poor family, whatever lies in store for them.
—Excerpt from a letter written by Lady Amelie de Montfort
The Amell Family codex states several things; Aristride was considered likely to be Viscount following Threnhold’s arrest. Revka’s mage child prompted a scandal that interrupted this, and that Leandra ran away with Malcolm soon after.
Some dates for starters:
Chivalry Threnhold becomes Viscount in 9:02 Dragon.
Malcolm and Lenadra meet in 9:05 Dragon, they court in secret for several months
Leandra discovers she is pregnant, they run away; making Hawke born in (most likely) 9:06
Aristride dies in 9:11 around the time Bethany and Carver are born. Lady Bethann dies a year before.
Perrin Threnhold becomes Viscount in 9:14, 3 years after Aristride dies.
There is a noted timeline inconsistency when looking at the Amell codex: the codex appears to be suggesting that Aristride was being considered for Viscount following Perrin’s arrest (by Meredith Stannard in 9:21 Dragon). However, if this were true; then Kirkwall would be considering electing a very dead man as Viscount (10 years past the expiry date as it stands). However, there is another potential explanation:
What we know of Chivalry Threnhold; and the Threnholds in general is from Codex: History of Kirkwall, Chapter 4; “The Threnhold family assumed its foreboding control of the city at the very onset of the Dragon Age, less than a week after Maric Theirin retook the Ferelden throne from Orlais….Viscount Chivalry Threnhold was a vicious thug who took power through a campaign of intimidation, and his son Perrin who succeeded him in 9:14 Dragon Age was even worse.” According to this, Chivalry was near-just as bad as Perrin who succeeded him; and therefore, it’s possible to imagine that the arrest mentioned in the Amell Family codex is actually referring to Chivalry rather than Perrin.
There is also an error in Malcolm’s WOTV2 entry. Leandra and Malcolm are said to meet at a ball held for Grand Duchess Florianne’s visit in 9:05 Dragon; held by Viscount Perrin Threnhold. What’s this? “But Perrin became Viscount in 9:14,” you say, “so how can he be Viscount in 9:05?”
Easy. What we’re dealing with is politics. Consider the possibility of a political vacuum, one not too dissimilar from the one you find Kirkwall facing under Meredith after Marlowe’s death by Qunari. In this case, the title of Viscount might have been unofficially considered Perrin’s (there is, perhaps, the possibility of a provisional appointment similar to the one occupied by Bran Cavin). However, Lord Aristride would then be considered a popular rival candidate… at least until Revka’s child is found to be a mage. In this case, you can assume that he was still a relatively popular candidate but now with a much more divided base (likely further weakened when Leandra ran off with Malcolm), and with any other possible rivals in contention, the stalemate continued until Perrin was finally officially elected in 9:14.
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see it's probably for the best that one twin dies in the prologue, else the end of act one could've been reaaaaally awkward
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#dragon age#carver hawke#leandra amell#bethany hawke#hawke#garrett hawke#m!hawke#leandra hawke#da2#dragon age 2#my doods#hawke family
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runs in the family.
#garrett hawke#rhys amell#warden amell#hero of ferelden#dragon age#da2#handers#morriwarden#helplessly devoted to questionably driven apostates in spite of controversy….. the amell family tradition#anyways um. i have a lot of thoughts about the hof and hawke being cousins. like that’s soooo fascinating to me all things considered#second cousins i guess. but im still being crazy about it
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Amell Siblings
(Constantly thinking about how Warden Amell is 1 of 5 sibs so this is for Rodaine specifically)
Annika— she/her. Eldest. She was taken from her family when she was seven and sent to the Gallows. She kept her head down while there, studying hard and looking every ounce the innocent to avoid further Templar attention. As she got older, she began trying to keep tabs on her family, mostly those that still remained in Kirkwall. Hearing about her brother killing an Archdemon through the grapevine almost gave her a heart attack.
Rodaine— he/him. Second oldest. Very serious and studious. He discovered his magic not long after Annika was taken and was very careful to hide it. Unfortunately he got revealed while trying to dispel magic from his younger siblings, who all manifested their magic publicly and at the same time. All four were taken away in one go. He's jaded and blunt but a really nice guy if you actually get to know him. Most people at the Circle didn't bother to so he's mostly just ride-or-die for Jowan.
René— he/him. I'm still developing the non-warden siblings but this guy is the jock of the family. Voted most likely to become an arcane warrior (extra funny because Rodaine actually is an arcane warrior.) I have been thinking of him as a loveable himbo.
Rosalie— she/her. Oldest of a pair of twins. A bit of a wild child. She loves animals and would absolutely love shapeshifter magic if she had access to it.
Serenity— she/her. Babiest. Lives up to her name, generally quiet and reserved but sweet-natured. Most likely to be a spirit healer
Like I said I'm still developing the non-warden sibs, especially the younger ones so I might add information as I think of things.
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family
— (hawke, bethany & carver)
#marian hawke#fem hawke#bethany hawke#carver hawke#hawke family#malcolm hawke#leandra amell#dragon age#dragon age 2#haverdoodles#haverdoodles oc#sketch#art
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revka amells children
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tragedy of the amell family
The desire demon offered love, freedom and reunion with her family to the first daughter. She never woke up from the fade.
The second daughter couldn't even find a window in the high tower, so she tied her self a noose, with a templar's child in her womb.
The fourth daughter performed blood magic. Her dreams, emotions and ambition were stripped away along with her dignity. She was degraded to a plaything and died from beating.
The youngest daughter led a happy and peaceful life, became a prominent enchanter in Ostwick circle. But her life vanished in the explosion, along with lives of thousands of mages and templars at the conclave.
The third daughter survived, ended the fifth blight and saved a country, but she could never save her long lost family.
#dragon age#dragon age 2#amell#the amell family#warden amell#mage warden#hero of ferelden#headcanon#dragon age oc#as a chinese imo the only reasonable explanation for why revka had so many children is that they were probably expecting a boy#yes i follow the conspiracy that quentin is warden amell's father#da2#dragon age 2 quentin#revka amell#cornelia amell
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I cannot get the idea of a da2 au where Malcolm is the surviving parent instead of Leandra. Would both of the twins have made it out? I think they would. Because like. Malcolm, unlike Leandra, can actually fight. I don't think either of the twins would have felt the need to protect him. Would the deep roads expedition even have to happen? I assume they would probably be worse off in this au since I don't think Gamlen would lend his aid. Obviously ignoring the very valid reasons why Malcolm would NEVER take his children to Kirkwall, or anywhere near it, how different would it be? Idk why it's plaguing my head rn but LORD
#dragon age#specifically thinking about this with lucio#malcolm seeing his eldest fall head over heels for an apostate healer: huh. must be an amell family trait or something#i think things would go so different#no amell fortune for them to claim#idk if they would even be able to get INTO kirkwall but like assuming they do#i think malcolm would take a much more active role than leandra#leandra was used to a life of luxury so of course she would struggle finding a good payibg job especially while grieving for her child#malcolm is an apostate i wholy believe he can get shit done#malcolm hawke#hawke da2#carver becomes and templar and malcolm spends a good five whole hours yelling at him#like yeah a templar may have helped him escape but. his SON??? a TEMPLAR??? fuck no#i wish we saw more of malcolm he fascinates me#<- person who is notorious for getting overly attached to dead dad chatacters
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both amell and tabris were raised by single fathers. revka amell disappeared some time after 9:11, and if amell is only getting their harrowing in 9:30, they would be very young, maybe not even remember her, so their all memories from before the circle would be only of their father and siblings. comparably, the timeline of when adaia died is weird - she trained tabris in fighting, so they at least had some time together - but last several years it was just cyrion taking care of both tabris and shianni. if tabris is around 20 in 9:30 then possibly most of their teens were just with their father.
in my non-canon main worldstate gareth amell is not a warden, and he is friends with hof tabris, who is also an apostate, so i would love for gareth to find his father (lucas) and perhaps introduce him to cyrion. lucas was living on the run with his kids ever since they left kirkwall, up to the point when the youngest were taken to the circles in orlais, hoping that if they were moving constantly he would protect his mage children from being discovered. and in this au with shartan being an apostate, it's doubly painful, bcos yes, cyrion managed to hid his son's magic from the chantry - and that's because he had support and protection from his community, he wouldn't be able to do it if he was on his own. community is so important for the city elves, bcos everyone around them is hostile towards them, so they have to stick together and protect each other.
lucas first left antiva when his parents were killed by crows, then left kirkwall when his daughter was taken and wife went missing, and then he lost the rest of his children. he is completely uprooted and i just want him to finally find some stability and community, possibly in a new place that doesn't have any bad memories the way that antiva and kirkwall do, denerim would be as good place as any, esp considering that his son is friends with the literal king of ferelden, no one would dare to bother him again.
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Working on my Amell family tree and timeline I realized the one put together by BW doesn't make any sense. Like, there are things directly contradicting itself but also if Human Magi from DAO is supposed to be Revka's eldest child, they would be approaching 30 yo during the Blight. Which is obviously wrong. Which means I can do whatever I want to make it all go together nicely
#it's not a problem for me personally Sambor doesn't become a Warden so he can be a little older#I may have his siblings be born a bit later though#amell family
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oh merrill...
#I LOVE YOU MERRILL YOU MAKE ME INSANE#she did something mountainous and nobody cared. she reversed the effects of the blight with blood magic!!!#the lengths she went to to try and rediscover elven history...marethari how could you blame her when you were the one who taught her?#you told her how important elven history is#can you blame her for listening#i think isabela would understand.#merrill did something people didn't want her to do#and just like that people turned on her#her whole clan wanted her dead and the party slaughtered them..........augh#the banter between merrill and fenris after you kill the elves...fenris have you no heart#fenris! she LOVED THEM she did it ALL FOR THEM#you know what it's like to be betrayed by family#you know what it's like to kill the people you loved!!#yes i am talking about his sister#i believe he loved her#oh merrill.#merrill is so empathetic and powerful and perceptive. if you think she's stupid YOU are the stupid one#she might be the only one in da2 that knows what's going on#she is so? kind. even when people (anders and fenris) treat her like a child to be chastised#anyway. temporary companion amell who learns of what merrill's doing to fix the eluvian#and realizes that blood magic could hold a cure to the calling#my amell is like. neutral good. but it's been so ingrained in her that blood magic is dangerous and bad that she shies away from it#her holding a dagger to her hand squeezing her eyes shut and slashing her hand open#blood pours and circles around her like a hungry animal#dragon age you haunt me like a wronged spirit that craves to be heard#merrill#merrill art#dragon age#peren procreates#calm down per
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i need to wynnepost. somebody has to
#its crazy how people will assume she is all the tropes she subverts and then ignore her#also how sympathy for circle mages’ indoctrination only lasts until they get old i guess and then fuck them#because its not as if they were ever a terrified child who’d never had anything better than a single templar’s mildest kindness and any kind#of home even if it was the tower#so an orphan kid who had no memory of anything but scurrying between farmsteads and hiding in barns#didnt want to leave. what a shock. you guys dont get the place comfort has in keeping circle mages complicit#so it’s violent and terrible and you never have privacy and your children get murdered and you’re always watched and hated#its also a warm bed and community and a chance to succeed#do you honestly think every kid from fucking THEDAS knows theres anything better out there#that doesnt make the circle good. it makes it horrific that they prey on vulnerable kids to teach them the world hates them#and only the circle is ‘safe’#i just think there should be some sympathy for those kids and what they grow up into#its easy for the player to walk in and say their character would hate the circle and never have listened to the templars#its easy for say an amell or even a surana with a family back home to not fear what they left behind#wynne genuinely thinks without the circle mages would all be murdered and she’ll fight and die protecting her fellow mages#from the right of annulment#yes its a flaw that she goes on to teach others the circle must be tolerated and that is precisely how the circle is perpetuated ove#over generations#but its amazing to me to just act like its her fault#well. this is more tags than i expected it to be
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In the event that the whole "left in the Fade" doesn't work out- which it probably won't- I hope Emmit got to see his sister and parents again in the end.
He was just so tired of everything.
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