#altisian jedi

[greyeisacreativecolor]

Mar'uk is a master of the Altisian Jedi order. Proficient in a number of lightsaber forms, though he prefers combining Soresu with a blaster in most combat situations. During the Clone Wars he led the 778th legion, a joint force of clone and volunteers acting as a Mobile Army Surgical Hospital

[roninreverie]

At the risk of giving away all of my fun headcanons, I just wanted to get the ideas out of my head and hear your thoughts.

Which one sounds cooler to you guys?

1. Altisian Jedi Phee Genoa with psychometry/force echoes who was trained by 3000 year old Kaminoan Jedi, Kina Ha...

(OR)

2. Kiffar citizen Phee Genoa who hides her clan tattoo under her bandana and can still use psychometry on treasure hunts to get the force echoes in artifacts and the surrounding area?

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I went down a few Wookieepedia rabbit holes and blame all the Jedi Survivor for giving me psychometry ideas, BUT:

Phee could use Jedi mind tricks to get Cid to tell her about the clones from s2e1. Something that was supposed to be secret, AND Cid was known to help/ have ties with the Jedi in the past. -

She could have more reason for showing up AFTER Kamino fell specifically if either she or her master had seen a vision of its destruction. (Or oppositely if she just saw the echoes around Cid's bar and got curious.) -

She would just be a small branch of Jedi who the council didn't really agree with, or so far out of the way that Order 66 didn't directly apply to her. -

She has those weirdly specific bursts of strength all throughout s2e5 and plenty of places psychometry would apply. -

She could touch Tech's goggles and find out what happened to him post Eriadu incident! (cough-that he is alive-cough). -

OR when she touched his datapad, could have figured out where they were going and showed up to save Tech? (Adding it to my Tech is Alive theory pile...) -

And according to the wiki, Kina Ha's modified genes could be used to reverse clone rapid aging... There could be a poetic reason Rex and squad chose to decline it, but it could always be something for a good happy ending for the Bad Batch squad. -

But on the other hand, if she was just a Kiffar with the rare ability of psychometry, she could still use the force echoes and be interested in history, treasures, and such, and it would explain the lack of arguable places where she should have used the Force (especially in Entombed).

IDK? Let me know your thoughts on this, and if you want to write or draw anything for these headcanons specifically, tag me so I can both read/ reblog them!

I am hoping maybe I can write or draw something for these too, but the way my brain is working lately, I'm not holding my breath.

[bittybuttersliceontoast]

me when people say anakin was already basically darth vader or even an adult in the clone wars when he was LITERALLY NINETEEN when the clone wars started?? wdym he's an adult?? like maybe legally but he's in his freshman year of college?? he doesn't even know how to open a credit card yet? hes not allowed to live off-campus?

and ahsoka was FOURTEEN. Babies. Babies raising babies.

Yoda will truly NEVER have my forgiveness for making anakin train a baby in the middle of the war when the WHOLE COUNCIL agreed he was too young to be an actual master.

like, honestly, EVERYONE should have seen this coming.

the idea that Anakin popped out evil randomly that exists in the fandom is so crazy to me?

like. took this massively powerful kid and stuck him in the frontlines instead of, yk. making him take extra meditative classes in the temple or hang out in a library or something?

BUT, and I wish this went without saying, this is ALSO not Obi-Wan's fault?? He was a baby when they pushed Anakin on HIM. He was like early 20s at the absolute oldest. Yoda and Qui-Gon are bastards like no shit he didnt give Anakin all the fundamentals. THEY DIDNT FINISH TRAINING OBI-WAN EITHER??

Me and the Jedi Order have beef. If the Altisian Jedi have raised Anakin he would have been a normal fella.

[panther-os]

I can't remember where or to whom I infodumped about this before, but.

I don't think balance in the Force is about equal amounts of light and dark, I think light/dark and balance/imbalance are two different metaphors for the same thing.

And since one of my two heritage cultures holds that balance cannot be achieved without justice (or vice versa), I think they're a metaphor for justice/injustice.

Jedi haters will say what they'll say, I'm not looking to convince anyone, just to share my thoughts with similar-minded people.

The Jedi are a religious order focused on light, balance, and restoring the galaxy. We see them brought in as diplomats, mediators, and righteous defenders. We also see them restricted by the largest galactic political body, which is rife with corruption and would have reason to be very concerned if the Jedi had the authority or ability to correct their injustices.

The Jedi do have multiple denominations with different codes governing how to avoid injustice in day-to-day life, but ultimately they are all in pursuit of the same goal. Denominations other than the one based in the Coruscant Temple include the Green Jedi and the Altisian Jedi.

The Sith are a religious order focused on dark, pain, suffering, and subjugating the galaxy. We see them torture people for fun, destroy lives and livelihoods, and become tyrants and dictators. We also see them take advantage of the Senate - both of their corruption and of their fear of the Jedi.

We are shown many times that the Sith and the dark side of the Force are inherently unjust, and therefore unbalanced. We see the Gray Jedi denomination who use the dark side, but while their end goal is still balance and justice, as a means, injustice inherently cannot create justice.

And then we see Jedi of all kinds constantly in the pursuit of peace and justice and helping people, refusing to compromise and use unjust means to arrive at a just end, except in the cases of such Jedi as Anakin Skywalker. They make mistakes, they are not infallible and I never see them claim to be, but the good Jedi own up to them, make restitution, and do better.

Other things that support my thoughts include the existence of non-Jedi, non-Sith orders of Force users who don't use balance or light or dark as metaphors and whose goals are neither justice nor domination. These include the Guardians of the Whills, the Baran-Do Sages, and the Witches of Dathomir (excluding the Nightsister Clan, who are shunned by other clans for largely adopting Sith teachings). Most of them simply aid and advise their people.

They (things that support) also include the repeated use of the concept of "restoring balance into the light" which only makes sense within this kind of framework.

In the end, a balance of justice and injustice would still be unjust, but a balance that is justice would necessitate there being no injustice. Thus, a balance of "light" and "dark" would still be "dark", but a balance that is "light" would necessitate there being no "dark".

But without understanding Jedi philosophy this way, by stripping the words of context and meaning, you get a contradictory statement that gray Jedi, most fallen Jedi, and most non-Jedi take at face value rather than asking for clarification or seeking to learn. And, of course, the Sith only encourage this lack of comprehension - especially from other Jedi - because it furthers their own goals.

[cola-canine]

The more I learn about splinter cells within the Jedi Order (in Legends) the more I genuinely think Yoda was just mad he was unfuckable and just made it everyone's problem.

Jedi like the Altisians that constantly questioned the Order on Coruscant are always so interesting. Even as far back in the timeline with KoTOR, you had Jolee Bindo talking about how "Love isn't the issue, passion is."

I hope we see this again soon. Show that even the peacekeepers of the Republic are also flawed.

[smhalltheurlsaretaken]

I know that you've written extensively about why forcing the Order to allow 'attachment' (which...99.99% of the time is either a misunderstanding of what that means and really just means "marriage is allowed") is not really Jedi positive (and I agree). I was wondering though, do you think there could be a way for fic to have the Order allow for marriage without totally disrespecting how attachment works in Jedi culture? I ask because there are married Buddhists and I have a few ideas how it may

Maybe.

I'm not familiar enough with Buddhism to comment on the real-world parallels here, but just from an in-universe perspective, there could be some wiggle room without disregarding everything that's established about the Force, how the Order works and why it works like it does. I can see two types of exceptions: - Jedi in situations like Kanan's (isolated from the Order, with his team as only support system, in a committed relationship - since there's no Order to be committed to - but aware of the risks; when feeling emotionally compromised, he asks other people to make the call, like Ezra in the mission to rescue Hera) - for a 'normal' Jedi in the 'normal' Order... intra-Order marriages. The way I figure this would work is that they'd be pretty rare and pretty regulated, but at least they've got a safety net in the form of all the other Knights and Masters who can point it out and step up if things aren't working out. They can be assigned to different missions when impartiality is needed and to the same when it's routine stuff and they work well as a pair.

Why just Jedi marrying Jedi? In an ideal case, both would be equally devoted to their duty, would understand that missions come first in daily life (so no arguments like 'you're never around for me, like Padmé and Anakin had) and that innocent lives come first no matter what (so no sacrificing other people for your personal happiness). I mean, Jedi do have very close friends and other Jedi they consider family and that's basically how they treat those bonds. What's different imo about marriage is that you promise to your spouse to always put them first, which is incompatible with the same vow made to your duty as a Jedi - but if they're both Jedi it might be like they'd be both married to the Order (which in essence is what being a monk is) and to each other. Risky, but who knows.

We see that Jedi raised within the Order from a young age tend to do leagues better than Anakin where dealing with loss or duty is concerned, so I imagine it could, hypothetically, work sometimes.

Ironically enough, that's how Karen Traviss' Altisian Jedi went about it iirc (minus the carefully making sure it doesn't go horribly wrong because 'there's nothing wrong with love ever')? She's not what I'd call positively inclined towards the Order lmao. I also vaguely recall that those relationships she wrote about ended rather terribly. Then again, the main philosophy behind her Altisians was 'Jedi bad, being free and not participating in the war and having sex good.' But as long as that's not the underlying idea behind the fic, yeah, it can work 😂 I mean, it's fic. Almost anything can work.

I wouldn't want it to ever become canon - I prefer my Jedi celibate, tbh, I love that aspect of their characters (yesIknow in canon they don't have to be celibate, but from what we see most never choose to pursue a relationship and I love that about them and tbh I prefer no romantic relationships at all rather than flings) but if I had to write a fic that's how I'd do it. I don't know if they'd call it marriage though

[padawanlost]

Do we know of any jedi masters who were more liberal in their views besides Qui-gon? Wookipedia says Oppo Rancisis and Kit Fisto are conservative and Plo Koon has a “black and white” sense of morality, and Yoda is pretty bound by tradition

I don’t know about that. Qui-Gon liked to be bend the rules sometimes but he was still a member of a conservative group so, you know, the term liberal should be used very loosely. If we are talking about the Coruscant Jedi, I’d say no one close to the Jedi Council should be considered ‘liberal’, some of them were more open minded than other but in the end they all put a lot faith in tradition and saw any deviation as a potential threat. Now, the true ‘liberals’ of the Jedi were the Altisian Jedi, who actually welcomed changed and allowed a more individualistic approach.

[harpers-tartarus]

you've been hinting at a group of jedi called altisian (sp?) in recent chapters of asitf, can we get some more deets on them?

ABSOLUTELY! I love the Altisian Jedi almost as much as I love the Je’daii Order.

The basics are: The Altisian Jedi were a splinter faction of the Jedi Order headed by Master Djinn Altis. They held several precepts frowned upon by the orthodox Jedi Order, including the taking of multiple apprentices by one master and allowing families.Unlike the main Order, the Altisians were not all Force-sensitives; there were many non-Jedi that lived within their community. Leaving the Jedi Temple during the last decades of the Temple, Altis and his followers moved about the galaxy serving as relief workers on underdeveloped worlds and backwaters.

@padawanlost made a few great posts on them: here, here, here, and here :)

[thesummerstorms]

Etain’s confession (snippet)

“But how did you-”

“Survive? I shouldn’t have.”  Etain looks up for the briefest moment, green eyes too wide, one hand darting upwards and stopping just before her fingertips brush the scar. Then, as if it’s all just one step too far, she looks down again. “As it was, I spent months comatose. They say I spent so many weeks like that, that even after I started healing, against all the odds, they weren’t sure if I...”

The trembling hand becomes a closed fist, but her voice remains steady, flat even, as if she’s speaking from far, far away. “You know sometimes I think I remember it?” A laugh then, humorless, something to send adrenaline down the spine. “But that’s not possible, is it?”

She waits for something- an objection? a reassurance?- but when no platitude is forthcoming, her voice grows smaller.  “And I’m glad, really. It worked out. I didn’t want to die. I just... I guess I don’t really understand. But I guess I shouldn’t question it. I’m here. I have Kad’ika and Dar. That’s all I really wanted, right?”

[leias-left-hair-bun-again]

With all the hype from Celebration and the Kenobi series, I haven't read a whole lot, but I've been catching up today and I have thoughts!

First of all lmao Ordo's message to Kal - "I also married her" - like it's an afterthought or side note and not a huge freaking deal. That's so perfectly Ordo. Always business first with him. I adore him and Besany more than I can say.

Spaarti clones! Master Altis and his Jedi! I love seeing more of the old EU woven into this book (though I guess this technically predates No Prisoners). That's always been my favorite thing about being a hard-core Star Wars fan - all the little bits of a massive universe that tie together beautifully if you know enough of the rest of the story to recognize it but not in such a way that you can't still enjoy the story if you don't know all the other pieces.

(I have, hmmm, opinions on how current canon is doing on that front, but that's for another time)

The Nulls staging an intervention for Kal'buir!!! They love their dad so much and are so protective of him. I love that he got to finally adopt them all formally and it's especially poignant that it's right before his call with Tor. This book is giving me so many complicated family feelings and I love all of it.

yAY REPCOMM ANON 💕💕💕 it's been too long im so happy to hear from you again and ALSO i, too, have Opinions about disney's quote-on-quote canon >.> there is a reason i am finally and deliberately immersing myself in the EU instead lol but anyways -

yes!!! the altisians!!! i freaking love them, like - they were the new jedi order before the new jedi order was even a thing and they just sound so nice; if i was going to be a jedi i'd want to be one like them :DDD callista is an absolute sweetheart, her offering to help etain out is just. it's so jedi it's genuine and heartfelt and totally selfless and i love her for it

AND THE INTERVENTION okay i know this isn't part of it technically but this is possibly my favourite line in uhh relation to it slfjskf

"Kal'buir, are you feeling okay?" Prudii put his hand on Skirata's cheek. "Talk to to me, Buir. What's wrong?"

i just. i LOVE SEEING THE BOYS TAKING CARE OF THEIR DAD i love them taking care of each other too!!! we get so much family bonding time in this book, i'm so so SO with you i feel like this is one in which the characters are the family-est they've ever been!! we've got etain and laseema lifting each other up as sister-in-laws and laseema being the darlingest mummy to kad and the nulls sitting kal down and making him let them take care of ruusaan (also i love prudii's implication that they've tried to get him fix his ankle for a while now XD kal is STUBBORN bless him) and delta having a gossip sesh and jaller being the hero of the freaking century risking everything to protect his friends and ordo being jealous over kal and besany and ordo learning how to be married to each other and -

I LOVE THIS BOOK SO MUCH i know it's painful, but there's so much hope and love mixed into it i just - oh. it's the BEST. except for the near-the-end bit which destroys me to much to reread slkfjldsfj i won't spoil it but - i'm so happy you're liking the book so far!!!

also yES the adoption scene has to be the cutest thing, it's so mando XD ordo's businesslike to a fault but he didn't come by all of it naturally, i love that kal just casually adopts his lads over dinner. i've a feeling singing happy birthday is just not a thing in mando culture and personally i think they've got their priorities straight

[jasontoddiefor]

Summary: In a world where the different Jedi sects co-exist, Ahsoka Tano and her Master Obi-Wan Kenobi are waiting for a stranger in the desert.

AN: I have started a new WIP.

Ahsoka had learned quite a lot since she had become her Master’s Padawan. Mostly she had been taught how to fight, take down opponents twice her size, how to defend and protect others by building walls higher than anyone could climb, and not get lost in the screaming, tear-stained horror of war. Perhaps it was not the padawanhood that Ahsoka had imagined, but she wouldn’t trade Obi-Wan for any other Master. He was patient, kind, and never lost his temper with her, even when Ahsoka made a foolish mistake, and the day had been longer than a week.

Her Master always kept busy, running around organizing one thing or another. The evidence of his exhaustion was visible in the bags under his eyes he didn’t quite manage to hide behind meditations anymore. He was relentlessly trying to find a way to end this war earlier, to save more people, to lessen the burden on each and every person he loved. Ahsoka would be glad if they could cease fighting within just a few short months, but even she knew that the chance of peace was dwindling with every life lost on either side.

And they certainly weren’t on Tatooine to talk about peace. At most, they were hoping to negotiate non-involvement from the Hutts – at least superficially, of course the Hutts would continue with their underground dealings, even the GAR relied on it – and use of their hyperspace lanes.

“General, if you don’t mind me asking, who are we waiting for?”

Ahsoka was glad that Cody had spoken up. She wasn’t sure if she would have been able to keep her silence much longer. She hadn’t wanted to pester Obi-Wan with questions, but she was curious why they had landed in the middle of the Force-forsaken desert in the middle of the night and not anywhere near Jabba’s palace.

“We are waiting for an informant,” Obi-Wan said. “An old friend, if you will.”

Ahsoka opened her mouth to ask what kind of friend Obi-Wan had on Tatooine of all places when she saw a figure approaching on a speeder. Immediately, everyone looked up. When a few of the more blaster-inclined clones of their small squadron reached for their weapons, Obi-Wan gave them the hand sign to lay low. They exchanged curious looks but dropped the guns, trusting him completely. Ahsoka hoped that she could inspire such trust in her someday.

The person parked their speeder just outside of their camp. From what Ahsoka could see, they were dressed entirely in dark robes, cut not dissimilar to those of a Coruscanti Jedi, while their face was covered by a dark scarf. Various trinkets hung from their belts and arms, as well as twin blasters, making the barest of noises when they approached the camp. Golden jewelry glinted in the light of their fire, feathers, pouches, bells, and something that could be bones chimed sweetly with the wind. The figure stretched, then they took notice of Obi-Wan. Quicker than Ahsoka could have stopped them, they had crossed the remaining distance and thrown themselves at Obi-Wan.

“Obi-Wan!”

Her Master just barely managed to keep his balance as he accepted the hug of the other person. They embraced tightly, an eternity passing in which dark leather-gloved fingers dug into her Master’s back, then let go of each other. The figure removed the dark scarf from around their head, let it fall around their neck, revealing tanned skin, a human face, and dark blonde hair that was framed by little golden feathers tugged behind his ears.

The person smiled openly, rolled forward on their toes and only then spoke. “It’s been a while.”

Their voice was surprisingly soft, melodic almost.

“That it has,” Obi-Wan agreed, smiling just as welcoming, the Force lighting up in reciprocal. “It has been too long since we last saw each other, Anakin. Thank you for meeting us here, even if the circumstances are not ideal.”

The newly named Anakin just shrugged. “I was in the area and really, making an extra stop at Tatooine for you is no trouble.”

The two looked ready to forget about just everyone else still standing around the campfire, watching them, and so Ahsoka decided to do her duty and coughed. “Master, would you be so kind as to introduce us?”

“Ah, yes, of course. Apologies, Ahsoka.”

“Ahsoka,” Anakin mumbled, then snapped their fingers, alight with recognition as they faced Obi-Wan. “Your Padawan, correct?”

Obi-Wan nodded and Anakin grinned, pointing at Cody next. “And then that must be Cody. It’s nice to meet you, I’m Anakin Skywalker, he/him.”

He bowed formally with both his feet firm on the ground, one hand clasped over his heart, the other on his back. Delighted, Ahsoka copied the gesture. It had been ages since she’d been at the temple and someone had greeted her with all the respect Jedi usually gave each other.

“It’s nice to meet you too,” Ahsoka returned his greeting, still trying to figure out who this Anakin was that her Master had decided to talk to him about her.

“Anakin here is a Teepo Paladin—”

“Sort of,” Anakin interrupted Obi-Wan, tilting his hand and shaking it in a so-and-so matter. “I haven’t been back to our temple in years, so I’m still not technically a Paladin, but still a Knight on their Search…”

He stopped talking when he realized that nobody had any idea of what he was talking about. Ahsoka didn’t know much about the Teepo Paladins. They were a relatively small group, and unlike the Altisian or Corellian Jedi, they hadn’t joined the Republic Army and stayed mostly on their own, following the Force. Ahsoka had learned about them, and all the other groups the ordinary sentient threw under the header Jedi, in her classes, but she’d never actually met a Teepo Jedi.

“Doesn’t matter,” Anakin said, shaking his head. “How can I help you?”

“We need to negotiate with Jabba,” Obi-Wan said, not wasting a single minute. “Do you think you can tell us something that would be useful?”

“Uh,” Anakin put his head in his hands. “Yeah, he’s a bastard and gates my guts. If he sees me around you guys, it’s definitely not going to be pleasant.”

“What did you do to him?” Ahsoka asked, curiosity taking ahold of her tongue before she could stop herself.

Anakin didn’t seem to mind the interruption; he only eagerly continued his narration. “Decided to steal his latest shipment of slaves and then some. With Coruscant, Corellia, and the Altisian bores—”

“Anakin.” Her Master’s voice rang out sharp, reminding Ahsoka of the times he scolded her.

Anakin rolled his eyes. “Fine, fine, the Altisian Jedi all running the Republic army, the rest, who hasn’t sworn allegiance to a planet or a system, is just doing damage control all around. I’ve wrecked a couple dozen pirate ships already, or so it feels, at least. But yeah, long story short, I won’t be able to help with Jabba, but I can provide backup if it goes sideways?”

Obi-Wan sighed, but even so, he still felt happy and comfortable to Ahsoka’s senses as he hadn’t in weeks. “We’ll take what we can get. I’ll call the Council. Do you want to stay with us for the night?”

Anakin gave him a thumbs up. “Already told my mother I was staying. And I brought my own food, so you don’t have to spare your rations. I think I might even have some sweets.” He glanced at Ahsoka and winked conspiringly, making her giggle.

Obi-Wan’s expression softened. “Alright, alright, I see, you’re set for life. Get comfortable then.”

He turned around to walk a little away from the camp, but from the way his shoulders twitched, Ahsoka assumed that he definitely heard Anakin’s shouted: “Not without you!”

As her Master had ordered, everyone who wasn’t on watch gathered around the campfire and broke out the rations. Anakin did, indeed, share his candy with her and handed out more of the local food to the clones.

“My mother packed it,” he said when he shared more of the salt-covered blackberries. “It would be a waste not to share it.”

Sitting around the fire with them, he fit right in despite not looking much like a warrior. If anything, his attire, decorated with trinkets that had to stem from various planets, reminded Ahsoka of a traveler. But if she were to believe his stories, he must be quite the fighter. Ahsoka knew that more and more pirates were growing powerful and influential without Coruscant’s oversight, but she hadn’t known that the other sects had stepped up to deal with it. She wondered if the Council knew. Though, Obi-Wan hadn’t seemed surprised by it, so they were probably aware.

“So, do you not carry a lightsaber?” Ticker, one of the younger clones, asked. “I only see your blasters. I didn’t know Jedi carried those.”

“The Coruscant sect doesn’t,” Anakin agreed and then turned to Ahsoka. “Though, I think you’re still all taught how to? I know Obi-Wan’s wickedly good with a sniper rifle.”

“Of course,” Ahsoka replied quickly. She got her blaster sessions with the best marksmen of the 212th, who all ensured she should be fine if she ever lost her lightsaber.

Not that Ahsoka was planning on it.

“Right, my Order carries blasters additionally to our lightsabers.” He moved his robes and revealed his lightsaber. “I just keep it a little more hidden away. It makes it easier to work sometimes if people don’t see from a mile away that you’re a Jedi.”

Ahsoka found herself agreeing with him. It made sense and she knew that there had been at least five missions that would have been easier if their target hadn’t immediately spotted that she was a lightsaber. She knew that her Order carried the blades openly purposefully so that they could be easily identified, they had to be as they were an officially recognized member of the Republic, but Quinlan and Aayla didn’t. Most Covenant Jedi actually didn’t, ensuring they could do their work in the shadows. Occasionally, Ahsoka wondered whether she was supposed to know so much about how they operated, or if that was just a benefit of Obi-Wan being close friends with Quinlan.

“And where’s the difference between your… everything and the General’s?”

“Don’t ask me for details,” Anakin said. “Haven’t had one of those discussions in a while, but our differences aren’t that huge. Most of the differences stem from the Republic backing of the Coruscant sect, I think. The members of my Order just also carry blasters and fight entirely submerged in the Force. We also don’t really do missions, which sucks for budgeting because we still have to get funding, and just go wherever the Force takes us. We don’t really have the numbers to provoke the big changes, that’s more up Coruscant’s or Corellia’s alley. We try to help the small people on the ground and hope the big guys make sure we can leave one planet in safe hands and travel to the next.”

That sounded familiar to Ahsoka. The Coruscant sect was the largest, so they had the most influence, even if too many Senators only played pretend at listening to their suggestions. At least the Chancellor trusted them.

“What do you mean, fight submerged in the Force?” A different clone, Storytime, ever the curious, spoke up. “Is that different from the General and the Commander?”

“Oh! Right.” Anakin laughed. “So basically, we cover our eyes and ears during a fight?”

“You do what?” Cody’s alarmed tone made Ahsoka only snort. She still remembered his attempt at getting Obi-Wan to wear a little more armor by pointing at the Revanchist folks that had accompanied them on one mission.

It had been an absolute train-wreck, but they had managed to succeed. Somehow.

Anakin only grinned in reply and reached for the golden feathers behind his ears. He took them off, revealing that they were not, in fact, feathers, but electronic devices with small buttons. 

“I tap these, and they block out any and all noise and cover my eyes. Then I trust the Force to keep me safe and tell me where I need to pay attention.”

“That sounds… risky.” If Ahsoka didn’t know better, she’d say that Cody was having a heart attack. His assessment of that fighting style had been exceedingly polite given that he looked as if he wanted to cuss it out.

Anakin shrugged as if it were no big deal to him and, having grown up in such a way, it probably wasn’t. “It wasn’t that difficult to get used to. I grew up here on Tatooine. The sand and the heat steal away plenty of your senses already.”

“You weren’t raised in your temple then?”

Anakin shook his head. “No, not really. We do have a temple, a rather small one, not even a tenth of Coruscant’s size. We raise children there, but most of the time, everyone is just on their Search.”

He emphasized the last word so that Ahsoka concluded it must be a special ritual that wasn’t like their Search for younglings.

“My Master was on his Search when he found me and since the Force didn’t call him home, he continued to travel with me.”

That sounded like a strange childhood to have. Ahsoka hadn’t known anything of the galaxy but the temple walls and Ilum until Obi-Wan had accepted her as his Padawan. Since then, she had seen plenty of other planets, even if she hadn’t had too much time to appreciate their beauty. She wondered how Anakin had gotten his education. Ahsoka had attended many classes of dozens of teachers in the temple. His childhood didn’t appear to resemble hers a lot, but she could easily picture a small human boy trailing after another masked Jedi, chatting with just the same cheer he was talking now.

“Sounds fascinating,” Storytime breathed. 

“Once the war is over, feel free to come to visit us. I know of at least one other Paladin who has attached himself to a Clone squadron and is planning to take them home for a visit at least once.”

“That would be very kind,” Storytime replied.

“No problem.”

Anakin then suddenly turned his head, his motion so rash that the clones instinctually reached for their blasters. Thankfully, they recognized Obi-Wan quickly enough that nobody got hurt accidentally.

Obi-Wan only blinked at them and then sat down next to Anakin. “What a lovely greeting.”

Some of the clones sheepishly packed their blasters away while others just shot back a look that was as dry as Obi-Wan’s words. They were on Tatooine; it made sense to be even more on guard than usual.

“And? What did your Council say?” Anakin asked, handing Obi-Wan a plate with food.

“Coruscant is not taking any responsibility for any outside agents who might get involved in this mission,” Obi-Wan replied, the flow of his words so steady that he had to be reciting the words of another.

“That’s council speak for ‘let him do whatever he wants’, right?”

Obi-Wan paused with his meal to confirm his question. “Yes, Anakin, that means you can do whatever you want. But if you get invited by the Republic for a hearing, we’re not backing you up either.”

“Yes, yes, I had expected nothing else from you sticker-to-the-rules Coruscanti.”

“Says the head-in-the-clouds Teepo,” Obi-Wan retorted in the same manner, matching Anakin’s intonation, quoting old stereotypes that used to be hurled as insults but have since only become something almost akin to terms of endearments.

“So, when are we going to leave?” Ahsoka asked. She wanted to know if she should go to bed early or prepare herself for a long night.

“Tomorrow before the sun rises,” Obi-Wan said, glancing at Anakin for confirmation.

“Yes, best to leave early on Tatooine. I’d also suggest trying to get some sleep. Negotiations will be exhausting.”

Obi-Wan hummed in agreement. “You know what that means, Ahsoka.”

“Yes, yes.” Ahsoka stood up. “Bedtime for me. I’m not a little youngling anymore, Master. I know when to get my sleep.”

She bid them goodnight and headed back towards the ship, ready to sleep curled up in the small med-station of their transport that was as close to a proper bed as she could get. She didn’t know how much longer her Master and his friend stayed up, but both looked well-rested when she got up the next day. Her Master, perhaps, even a little less exhausted than usual.

[bh-52]

SkySnips apprenticeship thoughts.

How often did Anakin just out of nowhere cut short her lessons or skip them so he could go see Padme or Palpatine?

How long did it take him to really accept her as his Padawan? He was still whining about it in at least one of the audiobooks following the events of the clone wars film.

How long did it take for Anakin to make Ahsoka really feel welcome as his apprentice?

Does Anakin even know Ahsoka's birthday?

Anakin making her his gunner was probably revenge for her taking the wheel when searching for Plo.

Was Anakin trying to humiliate her by making her his gunner?

Did Padme ever have to call Anakin out on his treatment of Ahsoka?

Did he angrily rant to Padme or Palpatine about having a Padawan assigned to him when he didn't want one, as soon as he got back from rescuing Jabba's kid?

Did Anakin try getting out of having a Padawan, behind her back, after they got back from Tatooine?

Was Anakin trying to make Ahsoka mess up at the Citadel? He wouldn't stop whining about her being there or asking if she was really assigned the mission.

At the citadel, Ahsoka probably closed their bond to stop him telepathically berating her for coming, every few seconds.

He regularly takes her into warzones and on suicide missions, but he has a problem with her coming on a rescue mission?

Why couldn't he look her in the eyes and tell her how proud he is of her on Mortis?

Dark Ahsoka wasn't wrong when she said Anakin never really believed in or trusted her, since his attitude, behaviour and over protectiveness often proved that true.

Did he ever tell Ahsoka about what he did to the tusken raiders?

Does Ahsoka ever call him out on his habit of leaving in the middle of campaigns to talk to Palpatine in his office?

Did Anakin and Ahsoka ever consider joining the Altisian Jedi?

Shmi would've loved Ahsoka like a daughter.

Anakin is a hypocritical teacher.

Ahsoka should've gone to Dathomir with Anakin & Obi-Wan when looking for Savage.

[orpheusilver]

hold on altisian jedi like. rule

[americankimchi]

So I mean speaking from the point of actual star wars lore the jedi are an extreme just like the sith they're the opposite and dont actually balance the force the way they claim to and theres a bunch of issues and corruption within the jedi (I'm not saying they're as bad as the sith by any means) and there's actually a third order known as the gray jedi order which focuses on understanding both the light and dark side of the force and maintaining proper balance between the two

is that not......... fanon. i’m like 85% sure that’s just fanon. please correct me if i’m wrong there’s so much sw legends lore i could’ve just missed it but yeah... there were gray jedi (i hatteeee that term so much but. it exists. i’ll deal with it.) out there in the galaxy but i think they were all rogues who never really consolidated into a single organization... although you can be a force user without being a jedi. and if you’re not part of a jedi order (even if it’s not the coruscant one) then you’re... not a jedi. you’re a force user of a different kind. so i mean.

..........that’s not the point of this ghfj mOVING ON,,

saying the jedi are an extreme is... i mean yeah, i guess from a certain point of view they are??? depends on what you think is extreme. imo i don’t think they’re extremists honestly i think they did pretty well... all things considering.

side eyes the clone wars............

i don’t think they’re extreme at all i think they’re pretty reasonable

it also depends on what faction of jedi you’re talking about bc the jedi order on coruscant isn’t the only jedi order out there (shoutout to the corellians ayyy)

even in the jedi order on coruscant itself were splinter groups (alll....tis...??? altisian??? i. don’t remember. seems i have an approximate knowledge of many things ghfhgj) and other dissident voices like. it’s a philosophical order that’s borderline religious at times. there’s absolutely no way they all agreed at all times. case in point: qui gon jinn jsjsjssksk

but even qui gon for all his rebellion and his constant critiques of the jedi order was a very well respected member of the order. again: they’re all philosophers at heart. debating on the nature of the force and the application of the code to their lives is like. jedi 101.

was there corruption in the order? it’s an organization. organizations and corruption go hand in hand and judging by the size of the jedi order at its peak it’s no surprise there. although. wartime didn’t really help.

were the jedi strict? oh without a doubt. without a doubt. they had to be what with the ability to literally crush tanks with their minds. but they also weren’t jailors. if you didn’t want to be a jedi you could leave, and leave freely. (now if you leave by Falling, that’s an entirely different beast. that’s not leaving the house it’s leaving the house and setting it on fire behind you)

honestly i think the main problem with the jedi order was that they became too political. they’re a spiritual order who tasked themselves with keeping the peace across the galaxy but by the end of the pt era they were so entrenched in the republic’s politicking that they couldn’t move without getting tripped up by red tape

palpatine’s instigation of the clone wars didn’t help and do you see a pattern here. the clone wars. the cloonnneee waaarrrrssss

what do you get when you put a group of people whose abilities to directly affect the world/reality around them with the force are heavily influenced by their mental and emotional wellbeing directly into a high-stress, high-trauma environment for decades without giving them time to breath and decompress

/willsmithpose.jpg at the crash and fall of the jedi order

this ask kind of ran away from me. where am i going with this.

the jedi order doesn’t really ask much from its members imo??? 

control your emotions but don’t ignore them (ignoring them leads to hidden resentment leads to anger leads to hate leads to the dark side), do not form attachments (which is not!! love!!! attachments are simply the inability to let go), and don’t let your biases inform the decisions that you make especially when another’s well being is on the line.

there are more obviously but those are like. the Common Themes. the jedi, simplified.

tl;dr: jedi order = extreme? depends on your definition of extreme.

[smhalltheurlsaretaken]

What are Altisian Jedi? I tried searching it up, but I didn't get much. Are they Canon?

No, they’re not, thank goodness.

They were a branch of Jedi from Legends invented by Karen Traviss, who wrote the Republic Commando book series as well as tons of other old EU stuff. She was absolutely, relentlessly anti-Jedi. Not even in a “oh they were flawed but they had redeeming qualities” way. She hated them. I really don’t want to get into it because she was pretty awful but @jedi-order-apologist has tons of stuff on that if you want.

The Altisians were basically the OCs she created to incorporate Jedi in her Clone Wars stories - Master Altis and his followers left the Order because “love makes us stronger and Yoda is blind for not seeing that :((( we’re gonna be good Jedi somewhere else and not fight in the Clone Wars because wars are bad.” 

(It’s pretty ironic, because reading the books her good Jedi had all the self-control and spiritual clairvoyance of Dark Siders... Soooooo... Also yeah basically their idea of being ‘good Jedi’ is just being free to fall in love and have sex, not fight, and hate the Council together.)

Every time they appeared Traviss would have them lecture “our” Jedi on how attachment is good and healthy, and on how leading armies made them completely morally decadent - demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of the Star Wars universe that is very unsurprising, considering she almost never bothered to read books from the EU that weren’t her own, was completely obsessed with her Mandalorian OCs, didn’t watch the prequels all the way through, and ragequit writing SW books when she realized Filoni & Co weren’t going to make TCW compliant with her Clone Wars books past season 1.

Unfortunately, a good chunk of Sith-loving pro-old-EU “real Star Wars fans that know more than you” (as in frustrated reddit incels who don’t get why they’d have to choose between being a lightsaber wielding superhero and having a girlfriend) really loved the Altisians, and they really were more well-known than they had any business being. 

They’re altogether a very poor exploration of the idea of allowing committed romantic relationships within the Order - because I do believe such an exploration could be done in an insightful and respectful way - and I just detest having them thrown in my face as a “ah ah” kind of thing, like somebody’s badly thought-through paid fanfiction in any way invalidates Lucas’ worldbuilding and lore. 

Again, they’re so not canon I doubt George even know of them. 

[padawanlost]

Serenity, my backside. Passion. Passion and anger and love. That's what this galaxy needs, not serenity. Passion for change. Anger at this brutality. Love-buckets of it, for everyone, love between child and parent, between spouses, between brothers and sisters, between friends. We need more attachment, not less. Attachment can stop us from tearing ourselves apart.

No Prisoners by Karen Traviss,