#also the other symbiotes dying I am upset about that too

[schadenfredde]

Venom 3 spoilers:

I don't know why everyone seems so upset, did no one wait to see the end credits?

also note how in the first movie Venom says "goodbye Eddie" before inexplicably surviving the rocket explosion and in this one he says "goodbye for now"

he will come back to him like he did the first time. and I have a feeling Eddie knows that deep down too, that's why he's not too broken over it

and they can move back to their apartment and get their chickens back and the government will be off their backs because they all think Venom is gone

this is the best possible outcome

[sad-trekkie-life]

Long post. Rant. Open for discussion.

I’m complaining here because I actually LIKED the episode, it’s one of the episodes I have mixed feelings about. It’s kind of my personal favourite, or a guilty pleasure.

I’ve watched Metamorphosis (s2e9). It has some incredible moments. The poetic “I became a human just to touch you”, monologue about love of Kirk, the lighting and aesthetics of the set of the episode are exceptionally pleasing.

Although the idea, the concept, and the plot are vulnerably charming, it lacks logical reasoning in some crucial moments. And not only because it was made in 1960s.

First, an underrated moment:

Zefram being angry and disgusted that he has romantic relationship with an alien, Kirk and Bones being visibly upset about his reaction. Bones started protecting this relationship immediately, while Kirk suddenly became quiet and looked down while usually he’s quite vocal about injustice. Because Spock is an alien, and Kirk and Spock are very close, so for me it was a moment showcasing the affection of Kirk towards Spock and that Zefram’s reaction was taken personally by Kirk.

Here are some points that DID NOT bother me although DID BOTHER other fans:

- Companion possessing the body of Hedford. For me it does have a body horror element, but I do like this, because it’s… Very alien. Hedford was dying, and she expressed that she wanted to feel love, and she did express some interest in Zefram. Since Companion is able to communicate telepathically, I am pretty sure Hedford was ok with that, either that, either that she was dead already… Which is dark, yes, but kinda cool? In a pure fiction moment, you know what I mean? Now, Hedford can experience love she yearned, and be healthy, and Companion can be a human, win/win for both. Although I’d love to have a scene showing the consent. Bit IMO it’s more of a gray/alien morals issue.

- “Women didn’t make a choice”. I disagree here. Companion did make a choice herself. Kirk simply was explaining that she can’t hold the captive, I mean… love is a self sacrifice, and holding them captive is wrong.

Here are some points that DID BOTHER me:

1) “The alien is a girl! It changes everything!”

First, let’s state the obvious — males are able to love too, no? But. Even though the translator made them sound like a girl, characters still don’t know what gender/sex for this creature means. In fact to me it’s rather sexless/genderless. Didn’t it occur to the characters that the creatures all could just sound female or maybe the alien chooses to be female or male depending on their mood?

2) Even if they are a woman, it doesn’t mean they don’t see Zefram as a pet. Why does it automatically mean they see him as a love interest? Ladies can’t have pets? But at least thanks for Spock highlighting the difference of attitude toward them to Zefram. Couldn’t they just leave the moment like this instead of focusing on her gender?

3) Didn’t it occur to you, Kirk, that the alien could see Zefram as a child? They are much powerful then any human can be, they could see Zefram as someone who’s weak and small, therefore in need of protection.

4) Love is such a broad concept. The creature cared for Zefram. Doesn’t matter if they cared because they saw Zefram as a child, pet, lover, a friend. They could just simply love and care without giving their relationship any labels. Kindness and mercy are very strong feelings and motivation.

5) The creature is also lonely, or can be lonely. So it became affectionate towards an intelligent being mostly because of this reason.

AND.

This plot hole could be fixed with one simple moment:

That Zefram felt that every time he and Companion are symbiotic he experiences that he just has had sex. Trickorder could show that something like reproduction/lovemaking is happening there. Sex is referenced in ST quite often & straightforward so why didn’t they reference it there?

Bones could say “hmmmm it seems like Zefram experiences… Some biological processes”.

Even if lovemaking slightly implied by how Zefram reacts, they could better focus on this instead of saying “it’s a woman so she loves him”. Just simply cut the line of “oh she’s a woman”.

The show quite often explores love and affection in its different rich forms, most notably of Spock & Kirk. T’hy’la is also an example, but it might not be exactly fair for me to mention it as the term was invented later. But my point stands: it would be such an interesting topic to explore, as it was explored previously on the show. The City Edge Of Forever’s “you belong by his side” quote comes to mind. Even the famous Amok Time showcases that love could even over-win the Vulcan biology. Also, aliens could have different morals, concepts, even emotions, which is also an interesting topic to think about.

Idk just wanted to rant. At least it’s very aesthetically appealing and has some objectively great moments.

Kinda wish there could be the copy of episode with all the issues fixed so it could be a perfect beautiful episode that wouldn’t require me to switch off my critical thinking to enjoy it fully.

[dyns33]

The Miracle

Imagine : Venom x Eddie x Reader

(Yes I did that, sorry not sorry)

Of course, Y/N first fell in love with Eddie, who had no idea how to tell her about... his other partner.

Venom was a little upset that Eddie was hiding him, but he understood that he was a little scary, and since he liked Y/N, he didn't want to scare her.

Fortunately, proving that she was The One, even if she was a little surprised, Y/N accepted the symbiote and they formed a couple.

           "It's like having a baby." she joked sometimes.

           "I'm not a baby !"

           "No, Venom, not a baby."

           "I am the Alpha of the couple."

           "Of course Venom."

Y/N said this because she was sterile, so she couldn't offer Eddie any children, but he didn't mind. He was happy like that. And of course, she didn't really see Venom as their child, they did things... that you didn't do with a kid. It was only to tease him, as he often behaved like a child.

One day there was a miracle.

Well, a miracle that at first looked like a nightmare, since Y/N was throwing up, feeling tired, weak, weird, for several days. Venom smelled her scent was different, then he heard two heartbeats, and they all panicked.

A baby.

But a baby that wasn't... totally human. And who was eating her from the inside.

Venom was forced to go "talk" to him, to explain that he was in his mom, and that he should not eat his mom, or hurt her.

Y/N felt better. Venom was very happy. But Eddie was still scared.

He was afraid that the stuff in Y/N's belly would still hurt her without doing it on purpose, he was afraid of the time of delivery, he was afraid that Y/N would hate them and leave them because of everything.

           "Eddie." she said calmly, taking his face in her hands. "It's true that it wasn't planned and it's a bitscary, but everything will be fine. It's our miracle. Our baby, of the three of us."

           "... Yeah. But if this thing..."

           "Our baby."

           "Yeah ! If he's not normal. I mean, if he needs a body, to eat people, to..."

           "Normal and strong child !" Venom intervened. "With a body of his own. The best of both species. Will only need to eat more, and be able to do more things than you fragile humans. So... Not really normal. But he won't hurt his mum ! He loves his mum, she agrees to carry him, until he's big enough to come out."

Everything went very well for several months, until Y/N went to the hospital for a check-up with Dan. The baby was fine too. The Doctor told her that anyway, Venom and Eddie had come before and the symbiote had claim that he has checked both of his humans on a regular basis, so he would  know if something was wrong.

           "Really ? I didn't know he was doing this."

           "Oh. Yet he explained to us that he had taken care of several things. For example, he was the one who made sure that you could have children."

           "... What ?"

           "Yeah, he told Eddie it wasn't really a miracle, he knew you couldn't have a child, so he, I quote, fixed you."

Y/N then did not feel well at all. She was not a mom. She was a host, a hole, a womb, for Venom's baby.

And he had to "fix" her for her to be a good partner. It hurts and infuriates her.

But it was also Eddie's baby, who knew nothing about it. And it was too late anyway. The baby probably wouldn't have let her kill him. They had to tell him not to hurt her after all.

She decided not to say anything, to go until the birth, but suddenly she got very tired, and she started to vomit again.

Eddie believed this was normal, before he saw that she was no longer supposed to have morning sickness at this stage of the pregnancy. He panicked.

           "Venom, he's killing her again !"

           "Impossible !"

           "Go talk to him !"

The symbiote went inside Y/N's body. It wasn't long before he returned to Eddie, where he refused to come out. Eddie spoke with him, before being silent, answering visibly in his head. He was making a funny face.

           "What is happening ?"

           "It's alright, babe. You're alright."

           "But what's going on ?"

           "... The baby is dying."

           "What ?! Why ? Everything was fine last week !"

           "Don't panic. It's not your fault."

It was Eddie's voice when he tried to lie. So it was her fault.

And while normally he would always come around and lick her face when she was scared, Venom didn't come out.

As if he was disappointed. Because even if he had "fixed" her, the baby was dying. She was not a good partner, a good host.

Y/N started to cry, as Eddie called Dan to come help them. Venom still didn't come out.

When the doctor arrived, he confirmed that although she seemed tired, Y/N was in good health.

Eddie asked Venom to go back inside her to try to find a solution. But when the symbiote touched her skin, something happened.

A little purple liquid pushed him away. Venom jumped.

           "He just rejected me !"

           "What ?"

           "He rejected me ! The baby rejected me !"

           "It's weird." Eddie said putting his hand on Y/N's stomach.

Nothing happened. Dan did the same, and he had no problem. Y/N either.

But when Venom tried again, he was pushed back. Everyone was completely lost.

Then Y/N understood.

           "Oh !"

           "Babe ?"

           "The baby feels that I'm mad at Venom !"

           "What ?!" cried the symbiote. "Mad ? Why ?"

           "Maybe because you put an alien baby in my womb, who doesn't even consider me his mother since he tried to eat me, after you fixed me, because a sterile mate is not a good mate, and now you refuse to talk to me because he's dying, proving that I'm really not a good mate anyway ! Oh, don't make that face, Dan told me everything !"

           "... I just said you healed her." Dan explained when Eddie and Venom turned to him.

As Eddie came to sit next to her to take her hands, Venom looked embarrassed.

           "... I thought you would be happy."

           "To be considered a laying hen ?"

           "You talk about baby all the time. The TV says people are really happy when they have kids. And since you couldn't have kids, I thought you would be happy. I just fixed. Didn't plan when that would happen. Or that the baby would be like me. That's why I didn't know he would panic in your womb. We don't make children like that on my planet. We don't have ... mom. He didn't know what it was. But he was really happy to have a mom. And when you thought it was wrong that he was there, he considered that you wanted him to die."

           "... I never said that."

           "He thought it made sense. And now he considers me a threat, because you're sad because of me, and he refuses to let me touch you. He's protecting his mom. I told him that was what he had to do."

           "Oh, V... There was a huge misunderstanding."

           "That's why you always have to ask before doing something to someone's body." Eddie sighed. "Remember my organs."

           "Yes. Sorry."

Y/N kissed Venom, then Eddie.

After that, the baby again let his symbiote father approach, and he was healthy again, until the birth. He seemed normal, until he tried to bit the doctor's fingers.

[lee-scribbles-and-doodles]

S3 ep5

Current emotional status: FEAR

Cthulu Max has been on the rampage for a whole week!?

Ew, the narrator

Oh man, are they sending the airforce after him?

I really like Cthulu Max's design

Momma Bosco 💗

Oh hey, Norrington and Papierwaite are alive.

Superball are you saying you tried to send the Maimtrons up Max's--

Also he's acting president while Max is... deposed of.

Superball is only giving Sam until 6am :(

Featherly!

"Wandering around the moleman tunnels is no fun without Max."

"You got it all wrong, we're trying to help Max." "We will help him... to a generous serving of ass whooping."

"That is one rabbit who will be multiplied... into 2,000 smoldering pieces."

Carol ran off with Blustet

"I only want her to be happy, is all." Aw, Curt

Superball just admitted to having separation anxiety from Max

Ok Momma can't come but Papierwaite and Norringron can.

I like Norrington :)

GASP

Is it?

It is!

SYBIL!!!!

RETURN OF THE QUEEN

Oh, she is very pregnant

She was a wizard at one point?

She's gonna help!

Superball there's no such thing as acceptable losses

Abe has his body back

"Four score and seven tons of raw power"

HE CAN FLY NOW!?

Sybil, I love you, but why did you mod someone else's car???

Grandpa Stinky I love you

Oh, he just handed us the recipe for once.

Asdfff the spore maxes swarming Grandpa

They stole Grandpa's hotdogs

"We must feed the host! Piglets and sphinkters make us stronger!" "We regret nothing!"

Grandpa hasn't slept in three years

Sam just casually taking the last of Grandpa's corndogs

The spores are trying to get it

Lol Sam slapped them

Sal's alive!

He's hiding from Sam :(

Lol we can control Cthulu Max with Corndogs

Ew, the cornstarch got mixed in with the giant puddle 🤢 Looks gross

Love how Sybil completely ignores the Flaming Max head

Also the look of disappointment on the spore's face made me laugh

Fifth trimester???

The way the one Max spore by Grandpa's truck is bobbing in circles with his mouth open is making me laugh.

Sam showing concern for Sybil because she’s preggers 🥺

Her being pregnant with Abe's child implies that statues have working genital in this universe

She put a weiner scented airfreshener in the desoto

At least Sam and a Max spore seem to like that (of course they do)

"Sybil you're the best!" Hell yeah she is!

Sam's mind went to the color bar codes to prevent being traumatized by Sybil's oversharing

We drowned the desoto

Asdfgh Sam just botched slapped one of the spores for trying to say "that's none of your damn buisness."

Ew, Max's spine is pointing out

Oh hey, Satan and Jurgen

Why is Jurgen wearing his old fashioned clothes instead of his emo clothes?

Lol Sam snuck into frame to shout "Go Mets! New York rules!"

"--besides it's just a good and noble thing to do." "You're not familiar with my previous work, are you?"

"Sam, what happened to you to make you so cynical?" Gee, Jurgen, I wonder what could have possibly happened.

Oh so the water tower counts as vegetable oil because Momma did something to it

Pfft we can replace Satan's microphone with a corndog

Omg they jumped off the building to avoid Max

Oh, they're fine, and the oil is in the giant puddle.

I'm thankful to Featherly for giving us an egg but I'd have preferred not to watch him lay it. Granted it was just in a cartoon way but he still made weird noises

Also TRANS FEATHERLY 2021

"I desperately wanted to see that, sir. Ask him if he'll lay another one."

Oh hey, the Flaming Max heads helped heat up the giant desoto corndog

Since I'm playing this in 2021 the Maimtron's song references are super dated, which defeats Superball's efforts

Oooh! A unique opening sequence???

Oh this music is jazzy af

Sam really doesn't like the Max spores

Sam how do you already know what Max's insides look like???

"Even when he's not a collasal monster Max's food comas can last for weeks."

Ok we wake Max up with the coffee beans, right?

Yup!

The gi Max spore is so sad he doesn't get to come 😢

"But I'm a horrible monster!"

"I suppose Max's brain always looks like a living room?" "Well, Max is host to all kinds of weird parasites, and he likes to he a good host!" WHAT

No really, this brings up so many questions about lagomorphs. Are they some kind of Symbiote or something?

And a previous episode confirmed Max is amphibious

Max has tumors!!!

It shocked Sam!

"Eugh! Get away fake Max!" "Do you find my warmth... alarming, Sam?"

"What do nightmares taste like, anyway?" "Pepsi"

Max wants to be author 💗

He also writes fanfiction about Flint 🤣

I'd unironically read his books.

Tina Belcher voice: Friend fiction

Max has an experimental fusion jazz band???

"He just killed a great white shark--"

Max being completely unable to describe a woman is very gay of him. Good for him.

Max's brain teleported everyone to different parts of the body.

Found Sybil in the gym/legs

The brain is broadcasting Sam's thoughts???

Sam couldn't think of a joke for the medicine balls :(

"Wow Max is looking pretty buff. Would it be too weird if I asked him to turn around?"

Sam! Stop thinking bad things about Sybil's pregnancy she can hear you you putz!

She's upset with him now

"Can you believe this guy?" "I find the entire situation to be very contrived and misogynistic." Same spore Max, same.

Sam stop being so mean omg!

"I changed Sybil, I totally get the whole parenthood thing now." "Really now?" "Tax deductions."

In Max's inventory now

Y'know, I never really thought about it as a storage house

Hit The Road reference :3

Baby roach hatched in

"Pa..papa?" "Now I am little champion, now I am!"

Max has a Maximus shrine

Sam turned into a roomba!

Aw, he named it Sam Jr 🥺

We won Sybil back through his love of Sam Jr

Found the conjoined twins

Huh, Max lost as eye. Does that mean he has a glass one, or do lagomorphs have regenerative abilities?

Pfft we have to play twister to control his arma

The brain is messing with things again

Oh, we need a roach to operate the game because of radiation

Well, let's kidnap Sal

Oh, poor Girl Stinky. She's really going through it

Aw, Sal feels bad

Sal?

Honey, are alright?

He's dying???

He's not immune to irradiation!?

Oh no, he's gone

I'm so sad 😞

Gotta pick up Sam Jr. Before I control Max

They mad Max do a magical girl pose

Ugh the narrator is back

Wait, what?

He's Max's brain??? SUPEREGO???

WHAT

"I was always ignored" Yo if my super ego was as pretentious as you I 'd ignore it too 😤

He wants to kill himself and Max???

I know Max had a self loathing complex but holy shit

The super ego is perfectly fine with destroying half the east coast what a jerk

Just noticed Sam's tie is red. Had no idea about this while drawing PI!Sam lol

We have to help Max get his memories back to use the ASTRO projector

Skunkapes has three Sam clones imprisoned

Sam had canon ocd?

Gasp Gordon???

No, it's Sammun Mak

I love him, little child tyrant

Just make him a mobile brain in a jar and let Sam and Max adopt him

Why is Grandpa here?

He isn't talking like Stinky

Too polite

Sam sees it too

He's a space gorilla

They switched brains?

Found the cloning g chamber

Let's go to Momma's first

CONE OF SHAME CONE OF SHAME CONE OF SHAME

Superball is "wracked with guilt"

"Keep it together Superball. Sam will be able to save the day. He always does."

Ok, let's go to the cloning facility

I'm still thinking about poor Sal yo

FLIIIIIINT!

He's punching space apes!

Girl Stinky really playing up the evil Mistress role

The doggleganger has a bomb on him!!!

Wait so Girl really is a mermaid??? I thought that was just her aestetic

God I love Flint

Haha we tricked Skunkape with scooby doo villain tactics

Got the robot

Her water broke... and it was pennies

Max wants to save Sybil! 😭🥺💕

Super Ego is here

Oh now he wants to save Max

The only thing here are those records

Super Ego waved goodbye

Cthulu Max is cute when he cries

Wait What?

His head is on fire!

The maimtron hit him!

He waved goodbye... and teleported away.

He exploaded!!!!

He promised he'd take Sam with him and he didn't!!!!

AAAAAAH

I thought the dead Max thing was popular angst fanon fic thingy!

We're cloning Max?

It didn't work 😭😭😭😭😭

Superball ran off crying

Oh God the credits are just Sam walking sadly what the hell

He's not even stopping to fight any crime 😢

💔💔💔

God the way he's clinging to himself

What?

The elevator???

MAAAAX

he's back???

Past Max???

He blew his Sam up???

Wait hold on I'm glad they're together again but this doesn't fix anything

There's so much trauma from this season

All the horrible things that happened during 301-304 happened in like 3 days tops, then Sam had to deal with Max being a monster for a week before watching him die!

And the new (?) Max had BLOW HIS SAM UP!!!

And they left the franchise like that for a decade????

What the hell?

I want to be happy but this shit is going to consume my brain for the next week at least what the hell

Aaaaaaah!

Like maybe they really do just brush it off but it feels unlikely

I know Max has a connection with his other selves so it'll be easier for him to adjust but certainly Sam is going to notice the discrepancies since he doesn't get the same deal

Someone told me there were multiple endings hold on

Aw, they walked off into the sunrise together

But still

AAAAAAAAH