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grimmjow · 2 years ago
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estrellami-1 · 2 years ago
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Steddie Week 2023
May 28th Prompt: Free Space
Day 1, Day 2, Day 3, Day 4, Day 5, Day 6
@steddie-week
(Warning for queer slurs, but spoken in love, if that makes sense?)
“I hate you,” Robin hisses, eyes glassy. She covers her mouth, shakes her head. “Steve. Holy shit.”
He’s looking at her with an unreadable expression. His eyes are also glassy. “Yeah?”
“Yeah. He’s gonna love it. Fuck. Fuck you, dingus, I didn’t want to cry today.”
He laughs, then, and gathers her into his arms. “Thanks for letting me practice on you, Robbie.”
“I’m never doing that again. Holy shit.”
Steve smirks. “It’s alright. I promise to cry whenever you practice on me for Vickie.”
She pinches his side. He elbows hers. “Let me know when you decide to do it, yeah? I’ll steal Jon’s camera.”
Steve snorts. “Just borrow it like a normal person, Robs.”
“Literally when have I ever been normal.”
“…Fair point.” He shifts. “You think he’s gonna like it? For real?”
“If he doesn’t like it I’m taking your nail bat and practicing with his head.”
“Robin, oh my god.” He laughs, probably more than the joke warrants—especially considering he’s not entirely sure she’s joking—but he’s so relieved. “I love you.”
“Yeah, yeah. Love you too, dingus. Just tell me when.”
“Um. Tomorrow night, actually. I’m taking him back to Hawkins, to the quarry.”
She makes a face. “Why there?”
“It was our first date. We had a picnic.”
“Oh my god,” Robin says, then her eyes widen. “Wait. Steve. Steve. You have a ring.”
Steve laughs, digs his hand into his pocket. “I was wondering when you’d ask.”
“Oh, fuck you,” she says, grabbing at his hand and peeling his fingers open, grabbing the ring as soon as she can, turning it and inspecting it. She frowns a little, looking intently at the inside. “What-”
Steve smiles. “I love you in Elvish.”
“You’re both suck dorks.” She looks up at him, smiles. “He’s gonna absolutely love it.”
“Yeah?”
“Yeah. You know he’s head over heels for you.”
Steve blushes. “I still don’t know how.”
“Because you deserve it, dingus, you’re a good guy. A really good guy. And, according to everyone who likes guys, you’re extremely attractive.”
Steve laughs. “Thanks, Robin.”
“You’re welcome.”
A key in the lock startles them, and Robin slips the ring back into Steve’s pocket a second before the door opens. “Hey, sweetheart,” Eddie says, smiling at Steve, before turning to smirk at Robin. “Hey, freeloader.”
She squawks and launches herself at him, clinging on like a koala. “I’ll show you freeloader.”
“Oh my god get off of me you weigh a ton, Stevie, baby, help me!”
Steve just laughs. “You brought this upon yourself, babe.”
“Ah!” Eddie winces. “Jesus, Robs, elbows! In my spleen! How the fuck did you even do that, you fucking contortionist?”
“Dick.”
“Dyke.”
“Faggot.”
“Jesus fuck,” Steve mutters, eyeing the two of them. “It’s impossible for there to be peace when you two are together, isn’t it?”
They both look at him and answer simultaneously. “Yes.”
They both laugh as Robin drops off of Eddie, pressing a kiss to his cheek as she ruffles his hair. He grins and kisses her forehead before moving to embrace Steve, wrapping him in a hug and kissing his temple. He sighs, long and content. “It’s good to be home.”
Steve chuckles. “Was today that bad?”
“No, just long. Dinner?”
“In the oven.”
Just then the timer dings, and Robin races past them, yelling over her shoulder, “I’ll get it!”
They both chuckle, then Steve kisses Eddie’s cheek. “Hey.”
“Hey yourself.”
“We’re going to Hawkins tomorrow.”
Eddie’s brows scrunch up. “What?”
“Hawkins. Tomorrow. I’m the one with hearing loss, babe.”
“Actually, with your hearing aids, I’m pretty sure you can hear better than I can.”
“Fuck off.”
“Mmm, no. Something about how you love me.”
Steve softens. “Something like that,” he agrees, pressing a soft kiss to Eddie’s lips, swaying them in place, like they’re dancing. “I already called off for you. And for me. It’s overnight, but just for a night. We’re gonna drive back the next day.”
Eddie smiles. “Am I ever gonna understand what goes on in your head?”
Steve laughs. “You already do. Sometimes you know me better than I know myself.”
Eddie nudged Steve’s nose with his own. “Something about how I love you.”
“Something like that,” Steve agrees, then lets Eddie seal their lips together.
That is, until a knitted potholder flies into their faces. “Dinner time,” Robin says brightly when they break apart, like she isn’t the reason for the airborne potholder.
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“And you’re sure you can’t tell me why we’re going to Hawkins?” Eddie wheedles for what feels like the millionth time.
“Nope,” Steve says happily, popping the p. “You’ll just have to wait. Enjoy the suspense. I am.”
“You’re only enjoying it because you know where we’re going,” Eddie argues.
“Exactly,” Steve says, then takes Eddie’s hand. “You’re gonna love it, Eds. Please stop worrying.”
“I’m not worrying,” Eddie says, then slumps when Steve just turns an eyebrow on him. “Okay, maybe I’m worrying a little. But only a very little!”
Steve chuckles. “Sure, babe.” A few minutes later, he reaches up to turn the radio down. “How’d you feel about no music for a while?”
“Okay,” Eddie says immediately, looking at Steve. “Are you okay? Headache?”
Steve smiles, brings Eddie’s hand up to his mouth to kiss it. “No headache, I’m okay. I was actually wondering if you’d read to me for a bit.”
Eddie raises his eyebrows. “You brought a book?”
Steve hums. “In the backseat, blue bag.”
Eddie reaches back and rifles around for a minute, then looks at Steve with a delighted expression. “I’m kissing you as soon as you stop driving.”
Steve chuckles. “Duly noted. Start wherever you want.”
Eddie blinks. “I’m in the middle of this one.”
“I know.”
“You won’t have any idea what’s going on.”
“I like listening to you.”
“You’re a sap,” Eddie says, even more delighted. “Holy fuck, I love you. Okay, um, I’m on chapter ten. The choices of Master Samwise. Frodo was lying face upward on the ground and the monster was bending over him, so intent upon her victim that she took no heed of Sam and his cries, until he was close at hand. As he rushed up he saw that Frodo was already bound in cords, wound about him from ankle to shoulder, and the monster with her great forelegs was beginning half to lift, half to drag his body away.”
He continues reading, getting more and more into it, affecting accents for the different voices, slowing down for some parts and speeding up for others, and Steve thinks his heart might burst for how much he loves this man.
They arrive in Hawkins before too long, and the first thing they do—just like every time they have to go into Hawkins for whatever reason—is visit Wayne.
Eddie blinks when he opens the door. “What the fuck?”
Steve and Wayne share a look borne of knowing Eddie. “You alright, Wayne?”
Wayne waves him off, makes a face at his cane. “Fine. Slight accident at work, fell wrong, banged my hip. I still get around fine and I didn’t want you two worryin’ none.”
“That’s our job, old man,” Eddie says, pulling Wayne into a hug. “It’s good to see you.”
“It’s good to see you boys, too.” He hugs Steve next. “C’mon in, make yourselves at home, y’know the drill. Steve, you wanna grab us some beers?”
“Love to,” Steve replies with a chuckle, following Wayne inside.
They talk and catch up for a few minutes before Eddie excuses himself to use the restroom. “Your stuff’s in the pantry,” Wayne murmurs to Steve. “Want to run it out to the car before he gets back?”
“Oh,” Steve says, like he just realized. “I asked after you’d fallen, didn’t I?”
Wayne hums noncommittally. “Not like I minded. Was just about goin’ stir crazy with the time off work.”
Steve chuckles, leans in to hug Wayne, and goes to put the bag in the car.
A few minutes later they’re hugging goodbye. “Robin’s here to take pictures,” Steve murmurs in Wayne’s ear. “I’ll get her to drive you up to Indy for the dinner tomorrow.”
“‘Preciate it,” Wayne says, clapping Steve on the back before turning to Eddie. “Get in here, boy.”
Eddie laughs and hugs his uncle. “Love ya, Wayne.”
“You too, kid. Take good care of ‘im, yeah?”
“Yeah,” Eddie agrees. “We’ll see you later.”
“Mhm. You kids have fun.”
Eddie narrows his eyes at Steve as soon as they’re back in the car. “That wasn’t what we came down here for.”
“Nope,” Steve agrees. “You’ll see soon enough, Eds.”
Eddie sighs and collapses back into his seat. Steve just grins, wholly in love.
Soon, though, he sits up again, interest piqued. “Are we going to the quarry?”
“Got it in one.”
“Steve,” Eddie says slowly, suspiciously. “What are we doing here?”
Steve doesn’t answer for a few minutes, just plays with Eddie’s fingers with one hand, the other on the wheel, his eyes never leaving the road. “Remember the first time we went to the quarry?”
“Must’ve been eight years ago, now, huh?”
“Just about,” Steve agrees. “We were just kids, terrified and halfway in love and no clue about how our lives would turn out. But we made it. Against all odds, we made it.” He glances at Eddie, smiles. “Thought it would be kinda poetic, coming back here.”
“Yeah,” Eddie agrees softly, rapt attention on Steve.
“So,” Steve continues, shrugging. “There’s some stuff in the back. Thought it might be nice to have a picnic again. Just to take some time off and remember how it was back then, think about where we were versus where we are.”
“Ugh,” Eddie says, glassy-eyed. “What have you done to me, I used to be cool.”
Steve laughs. “You’ve always been a nerd, babe. Pretty sure I’m the only one who thinks you’re cool.”
“Well, joke’s gonna be on you when we have a kid and they think I’m the coolest dad ever.”
Steve blinks, smiling even as Eddie freezes beside him. “I bet they will, Eds.”
That small sentence is enough to release the tension coiling inside Eddie, flowing out and leaving him looking at Steve, besotted.
Steve parks and they make their way to the edge, a mirror of all those years ago. Steve unfolds a blanket and lays it out, thrusting the bag at Eddie. “Here, start getting the food out, please.”
Eddie’s eyebrows steadily climb higher as he unpacks. Sandwiches, fruits, brownies, and drinks. Both of their favorites, and Steve makes a mental note to do something for Wayne soon, because nobody deserves the actual angel that is Wayne Munson.
They eat and talk and joke around, and kiss—a lot—and just as they’re finishing, the first raindrop splatters down.
Steve looks up, dismayed, to see dark clouds all around them.
Eddie whoops and jumps up, packing everything up and stuffing it back in the car, before running back to Steve and swinging him around in a hug, laughing. “What,” Steve says, but he’s laughing too, because he can’t not be happy when Eddie’s happy.
Eddie stops, sets him down, and grabs both his hands, looking Steve in the eyes. “Do you remember a few days ago when we were watching Singing in the Rain?”
The last time they’d seen the movie was at least four months ago. “Sure.”
“And you were sighing, all forlorn, and I asked what was wrong? And you said you thought you would’ve liked to dance around with someone in the rain?”
Steve can’t help the laugh. “I’m in love with your brain. That was at least five years ago, Eds.”
Eddie frowns. “No, that can’t be right, that was like, a week ago.”
Steve laughs harder. He can’t tell if the water on his cheeks is rain or tears. He doesn’t really care. “It was at least five years ago,” he assures his boyfriend.
“Huh,” Eddie says, shrugging. “Okay, well, I waited and waited and waited and it never worked out. It either always rained while we were asleep or while we were at work, or if we weren’t either of those things, it was a thunderstorm, and I sure as hell wasn’t gonna take you out in that. So.” He grins, wide and unashamed, and bows, offering Steve a hand. “May I have this dance?”
Steve’s going to die and it’s going to be Eddie’s fault. His heart is just going to give out one day because it can’t take how much he loves Eddie. “Of course,” Steve answers, taking Eddie’s hand, and Eddie lights up, dragging Steve into a crushing hug and pressing their lips together in a bruising kiss. “I love you,” he murmurs against Eddie’s lips. His breath hitches. “I love you so much.”
“I love you so much,” Eddie responds softly, wiping away Steve’s tears. “Happy?”
“Beyond,” Steve answers, floundering for a way to tell Eddie exactly how he’s feeling. But then Eddie smiles at him, and his smile is wobbly, and Steve suddenly knows Eddie knows exactly how he’s feeling.
They sway together for minutes or hours or days, Steve doesn’t know or care, letting the rain on the leaves and the ground be the rhythm they move to, an unhurried dance that somehow means everything.
The rain eventually lets up, and Steve pulls away after a few minutes, so they’re holding hands. “I have a question.”
“Okay.”
“We’ve known each other for a little over eight years now. We saved the world and managed to fall in love in the middle of it. The Shire was burning, we defeated Sauron, and I carried you out of Mordor. Against all odds we made it out alive, and against all odds we made it out of the Shire, and against all odds we made it together. It’s been eight years and every one’s been an adventure. Every day has been an adventure with you. And I may not know what our lives may hold next, but I know whatever the adventure is, I don’t want to do it without you by my side.” He kneels, pulling out the ring, and Eddie gasps, tearing up.
“Stevie-”
“So,” he continues. “Eddie. I know we can’t legally get married. I don’t know if we’ll ever be able to, but I don’t care. I don’t need the government to tell me who I can and can’t marry. I love you, baby, and if you’ll have me, I’ll love you forever. Will you fuck the government and marry me?”
Eddie’s shaking. “That,” he manages after a minute, “was metal as fuck, baby.” He sniffs, shakes his head, and laughs. “Of course. Of course I’ll marry you. We’ll flip off the whole of the government together.”
“Hell yeah,” Steve says, grinning, and stands. “Before you put the ring on, though, there’s something I want you to see.” He turns it, points out the inscription on the inside, and Eddie tackles him with a yell, and they both go down laughing.
“Baby,” Eddie manages after a minute. “Holy shit. You’re the best thing that’s ever happened to me.”
“Yeah?” Steve asks rhetorically, and they both watch as he slides the ring onto his fiancé’s finger.
It’s a perfect fit.
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butwhatifidothis · 3 months ago
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it annoys me so much when people say "edel had no other choice" as a thought terminating cliche. like even IF that were true, how one goes about that is still a characterful thing that gets minimized to "so it's not her fault stop being mean to her she just did what she had to". like. does she feel regret? does she apologize ot the people she's hurting? does she view it as righteous? who knows, becuase the argument is only ever used as a "stop being mean to my wife" line and not a character thing.
Yeah cuz like. Okay so let's say that starting the war was absolutely not her fault because xyz circumstance robs her of any substantial say in the matter.
What about using Demonic Beasts? What about her siccing her army and different set of Demonic Beasts on her own "friends" so that she could make more Demonic Beasts? Stealing from a gravesite to do so? What about starving her citizens, and being the only lord TO starve her citizens in their route? What about killing Judith as she ran away from her? Hell, invading the neutral Alliance in the first place? What about helping the Death Knight get away with stealing Flayn if 25 turns pass? What about saying nothing about Kronya even after Solon reveals himself at Remire? What about giving Jeritza a hunting ground to enable his bloodlust and not, like. Professional help?
She couldn't even mention a means she's working on to do anything about her starving citizens? Did she have to blame Claude (and everyone really) not immediately bowing down to her as to why the Alliance was violently invaded, and not her violent invasion being the reason it was violently invaded? What about persecuting Church followers who didn't do shit to anybody, did she have to do that shit too? Never freeing Brigid and instead stationing her men there on her route and sending Hubert there off of it; that was forced on her too? Taking Byleth's credit during the siege instead of letting them get the recognition they deserve - what, just, fate forcing her hand once again?
Are we really going to sit here and say because the war "needed" to happen, Edelgard was forced to do literally all of that (and more)? That because Edelgard was "forced" into war, she was also forced to do literally anything involving the war?
Like you said, her stans saying that she "had no choice" but to start the war does nothing to say anything about her as a character, because they also reject everything else she did regarding her war as having anything to do with her agency. They treat "she had to do this" as a means to protect the moral purity they want her character to have so they don't feel bad rooting for the villain to win, not as something that goes on to mean anything for her.
And I'm not asking for her to save literally every single person ever from any harm ever to prove her care about not going to war exists, I'm asking for LITERALLY ANYTHING. Because she quite literally does nothing to mitigate harm from anybody in this war, and regardless of whether the war was "forced" on her hands or not she absolutely could have done something to make sure her people suffered as minimally as possible. Which damn sure isn't seen in her hiding behind them as she sits in her throne room (a thing Dimitri and Claude absolutely don't do, with either similar or less time to prepare to protect their people). Or starves them, a thing uniquely said about her route (as literally all the other ones have the army go with lacking food supplies). Or allows Thales to conscript them under threat of death. Or openly saying that she thinks weak people would only stay weak after her war because they're "too used to relying on others" - because when her war takes everything away from people, it'd be THEIR fault for staying weak, which is *chef's kiss* so kind and caring amiright guys. Definitely shows off that she understands and/or cares about the ramifications of her war onto the people, and not that she has her head shoved squarely and firmly up her ass.
What does it meaningfully mean for the war to not be Edelgard's fault, if she's not going to do anything to indicate that she cares about other people enough to want to not force war on them? Hell, when she very explicitly shows she doesn't particularly care about how it'd affect people, if it affects people in a way that doesn't align with her beliefs? When she very explicitly says she's perfectly willing to sacrifice her people for her higher cause, and then goes on to sacrifice her people for her higher cause? If she doesn't even try to help others because the war was forced on her, that at best makes her one of powerless victim or uncaring defeatist - neither of which fit the resolute caring ambitious revolutionary they paradoxically also want her to be. So, again, what does it actually mean for the war to not be a result of Edelgard's agency, if she regardless of that still shows callous indifference to those harmed by the war?
It's a question no one who posits this about Edelgard is able to answer, because as you said, it's not meant to be anything more than a shallow defense against her own actions. Letting Edelgard have even the slightest smidgen of agency in her own actions means accepting that she is a massive fucking penis. A huge gaping asshole. A plain ol' jerk. Which again! Is INFINITELY more engaging to watch than this marionette strung along by literally everyone around her into "looking" like a villain, only being her "true" self when she's feeding kittens and dwawing her cwush and burping her googoo gaga babyass girlfriend they also tend to make (f!)Byleth over her shoulder
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nthspecialll · 8 months ago
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Bill Williamson "being an asshole"
I hear quite a lot of people saying that they do not like Bill because he is an asshole but I actually don't think it is that true. Some of the points I am gonna run through are going to be shortened but I will link to longer explanations.
Let's drop directly into the one I hear the most "Bill is responsible for Sean's death," yes and no, but mostly no. A lot of people use the argument "how could Bill not see it was a trap?" however I think we forget it wasn't just him who couldn't. Micah, Bill, heck even Dutch could not see it, it is also mentioned around Lenny and Karen while they ride to Valentine, and they don't mention a problem with it either, actually, the only two characters who shows any concern are Sean and Arthur and yet they both go along with it anyways because they think they can handle it.
Quite a lot of times we see characters going on risky jobs even though it might not turn out well, including Arthur and Hosea going to the Braithewaite manor, which was literally turning up two people to a massive family with something they stole from them, but they do it anyways because they think they can handle it, and for the majority of the time they can. A job going wrong, a risky job, going wrong is not new, but as Bill points out "when you mess up it is just one of those things, but when I do it I am an idiot."
One of the many reasons why Bill is being called an idiot by many is because of the dynamite in chapter one that didn't go off, but a surprising amount of people forget that !!Arthur!! set that charge and even admit it! It is even stated other places that Bill is an explosives expert, now imagine some amature comes along, asks if you want help, you give them a simple task, they mess it up and now everyone blames you for the one thing they previously respected you for.
There are a lot of the others reason why he is being called an idiot in camp, but it is more complicated.
Bill is very eager to please, and that is not anyone, but Dutch, Bill owes Dutch everything. Bill got thrown out of the army for being homosexual and lost himself completely, completely lost faith in himself, completely lost confidence in himself, became the man he said he would never become, but Dutch saved him, pulled him out of that hole and gave him everything, just like Dutch gave Javier or Lenny everything they could dream of.
That said, Dutch does not replicate, he likes Bill, he trusts Bill, but he doesn't value Bill half as much as some of the others which weighs Bill down quite a lot. Bill also works hard for the gang, being of the gang members present at most jobs, six-point cabin, Valentine bank robbery, coach robbing, security job and so forth, he mentions it himself, while Arthur is out, so is he. He most likely does just as much coach robbing and stealing as we do.
The difference between Arthur and Bill though is that while they work about as much, Bill does not get the same recognition from the others, especially Dutch, whom he worships, this leads to a lot of jealousy and a feeling of unjustness. This is displayed as fustrated anger and snarking comments as well as the "when you mess up it is just one of those things, but when I do it I am an idiot," but also more visibly when he drunkenly speaks to John and says "everyone thinks you are Dutch's pet" - "or at least I do." He is jealous that those two have such a long leash and no consequences, yet a small mistake from him and he will never hear the end of it.
For seven entire years Bill tried to please Dutch but was only ever made fun of.
In chapter four if you meet Sonny (if you don't know who that is, be glad) Bill will come up and say "he seemed to know all about you!" a lot of people see this as Bill making fun of Arthur's sa, but taking in historical context and the dynamic between Bill and Arthur, that does not make sense, rather it sounds like Bill thinks Arthur had a consensual homosexual hookup and Bill sees a chance to bully Arthur with the very thing Arthur bullies him for. (A link to further explanation)
Then we have one of the reasons why I am not too fond of him and that while I can explain will not excuse, his abuse of Kieran. Now we are going back to the homosexuality because while this is a progressive gang, this is not a homosexual accepting gang, they bully him quite a lot and that isolates him quite a bit. Suddenly he finds a person in camp who he likes, but he doesn't know how to approach. The fustrations of being alone, as well as the lack of "protection" Kieran has, leads to these unfortunate events of him trying to flirt and show affection but not knowing how to. (Wonderful explanation)
I also see some comments on his general racism against Lenny and Javier (which he btw only does when drunk, otherwise he knows to keep his thoughts to himself), and this is very simple to explain. Bill is a man in 1899. That is it. We sometimes forget that people in 1899 were not like Dutch, they were not like Arthur, people in 1899 were racist. Finding an Arthur would be like finding a needle in a haystack, finding a Bill would be finding a haystraw in a haystack. Does that excuse it? No, but it explains it. (Edit; I have looked deeper into Bill's racism and realised it is not this easy, link to explaination here)
A Reddit post called "why I hate Bill Willimason" that I am using right now also mentions how he didn't get any leads at the majors party "because he is a massive idiot and struggles to fit in or get anyone to continue talking to him. Why on Earth was he even brought along to this event?" Because he wanted to, because he wanted to impress Dutch. Again, Bill feels in debt to Dutch, he looks up to Dutch and to some degree Hosea as well. Most likely it was only meant to be Dutch, Hosea and Arthur who went to the ball, but Bill valuneteered as well.
We hear how excited Sean is about going out with Charles, Arthur and John, saying "me and the big cheeses, love it!" This was most likely Bill's "big cheeses," he is used to going on jobs with Charles and John, but Dutch and Hosea? The important ones? That is special to him and he wanted to prove that he could do something, that he was worth something but he failed, why? Because he is not used to people, because he struggles fitting in, when you follow him around at the party you can hear him awkwardly trying to start a convosation but people judge him and ignore him. He is trying but the others are rejecting him.
I have also found this lovely sentence in the post: "Him not giving a damn about Lenny's death and never actually addressing it in the entire game reflects what a piece of trash he is." Bill Williamson grew up as a boy in the 1800, he was taught from childhood that showing emotion means he is weak, something physically beat into him in the military, and the fact that he is gay makes it even worse. Bill being gay, something seen as weak, makes him try to make up for it, he is not going to show a lot of emotion. It is not just Lenny who's death he doesn't comment on, and it is exactly because of this.
Then the redditor goes on to compare Micah and Bill and how they are both terrible but comes with this sentence: "The difference between them is that Bill is supposed to be one of the senior and more trusted gang members." But the thing this lovely person fails to acknowledge is that Bill is not given that seniority, he sleeps together with Lenny who says he "sleeps with the juniours" (even though he sleeps with Hosea? But point either way), Dutch mocks him by saying "yeah what about you Bill?" None of the other takes him seriously and he is talked down to.
Lastly there is the whole he sided with Dutch and he acused John of being the rat. Yeah, he sided with Dutch because Dutch is a god to him, Dutch is his savior, his everything and Bill trusts him, the idea of John being the rat itself was Dutch's idea that Bill just adopted. Now that said, he not completely blinded as some might think, as soon as the Pinkerton's show up in the end Javier and Bill are gone. You can use the camera to search all around camp and while Micah, Joe, Cleet and Dutch are very easy to find, Javier and Bill are not, you cannot find them. Most likely they ran away as soon as it started because they knew that the revenge was stupid and pointless and saw their own surivial more important, not to mention the clear, at least, annoyance that Bill has with Dutch in rdr1.
I am not going to go into talk about rdr1 because there he is a proper asshole, but rdr2 Bill is very defendable and I really dislike people just slapping the label "asshole" on him and calling it a day without looking deeper into who he is and why he does what he does.
Another not so fun fact, Bill's father was an alcoholist who lost his mind due to it, Bill hated it, hated all of it and his biggest fear was ending up like him... I don't think Bill ever liked himself for drinking.
(This is not a defending post and you can absolutely hate Bill if you want, this is an EXPLAINING post to make people understand him and his choices better)
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el-bellanaris · 2 months ago
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The lack of treatment of Solas as a human being in Veilguard lowkey drives me wild. I didn't really think about it until after finishing the game but the Veilguard really just take over his house?? Rook is sleeping in his meditation room, the room he uses to spend time in the fade and where if you made certain choices is his place of connection to the Inquisitor. He does have a bed upstairs in his office but I personally see that room as his bedroom due to how accessible it is.
Regardless of the exact details, one of the first things we do is move our stuff in as Rook into his room. We're supposed to feel a sense of belonging to the Lighthouse as shown through how the companions will make their rooms into their own. Adding new decorations, turning an empty shell into a home. But how audacious of Rook, of us, to believe our cause so good and important that we can take some man's house because he is "bad."
And I understand the themes at play, Solas originally stole the Lighthouse from Elgar'nan and used it as his base for the rebels who fought against the Evanuris. So now it's time for a new generation to take on this mantle but there's a huge difference from taking a fort from a king who has a palace somewhere else and likely has multiple temples and places to live in then taking away the literal home of a man who has nowhere else.
Solas is a god in the thematic sense yes, he is powerful and revered by many out of fear but he is still a person. Becoming the self-declared heroes of the world does not grant one the freedom to literally rob a person of their house.
And now at the end of the game he's basically no longer welcome in his own home. Everyone in the Veilguard basically hates him and then squat in his house making it their home when they all have homes and just expect him to take it cos hes a "bad guy." I remember thinking how sweet it was that Neve started to think of the light house as her home, how she and other people would start to invite others over to have discussions showing how this is now where others know to reach them.
But the fact that none of them feel any remorse about it is crazy, especially coming from Neve, Bellara and a Dalish Rook. You have Neve who works with the Shadow Dragons, an organisation that is founded upon the beliefs of freeing slaves and wanting to work underground to help those who are being oppressed. And she takes the home of a man who has no where else to go? A man who has lost his entire world? The Dalish know about how the world has mistreated them and how much they've lost so why do they not feel any remorse for literally stealing someone's home.
I was also thinking about sad it is that my Inquisitor or generally any Inquisitor was never able to visit the Lighthouse in game but now all I can think about is how sad of an experience that would be for her. For my Inquisitor who loved Solas who has chased him down for years to stop him and is finally able to see into his heart, his mind more intimately through seeing where he lives and it's taken over by a group of people who hate him with such a passion that they barely see him as a person anymore. They all want to put him on trial for his crimes whilst sitting on their high horses inside of his house.
Back to my Inquisitor, she's been to Halamshiral, she knows the haunting feeling of walking through the halls of a place taken over by those who did not build it. She's walked the Emerald Groves and the Exalted Plains, she has seen the graves of her people overrun by humans who just desire power and war and want to burn the Elves from their history. To make the world think of them as savages to justify violence and destruction.
Now thinking about her walking through the halls of the Lighthouse that is so intrinsically Solas's and seeing it become the homes of other people would seem so gut wrenching. To hear them talk about his most wretched memories and dissect his thoughts just so they can figure out how everything is the way it is whilst also just taking everything from him. They're stripping him of his humanity for their own personal gain and it would seem so ignorant, so cruel. They take his table and remove his seat and then expect him to be live with it because they can blame the world's suffering on him.
We play as Rook, we are the hero of this story. The one who chose to step up and take down the last gods that remain in this world. But can we truly be good as Rook if we are just allowed to treat this guy like a stepping stone. To treat his entire life, the only things he can say he owns after a couple thousand years of his world decaying, as a means to an end with no remorse. How are we different from Solas who betrays Rook over and over when we just sleep in his bed, when we just steal from others to get to the "good" ending. Taking his Lighthouse was just an inconsiderate move not too dissimilar to how Solas will only consider his actions as a means to an end. But we're the good guys so it doesn't really matter right??
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tipsyjaehyun · 3 months ago
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The biggest plot hole of this show is its characters' lack of accountability. Why is Joke the only one to face consequences of his actions? And no one else does. In ep 1, he robs and lies to Jack for which he is abandoned by his family, he has to go to jail and Jack also beats the fuck out of him. We all know what happened in ep 10-11.
But what about others? The three pigs gang steals from Aran, he is literally thrown out of his home and then what? Just because he is taken in by Tattoo they are all a happy friend group now, Aran forgives them and never mentions it again. They literally ruined his life.
Tattoo betrays them twice, Hoy and him drive away leaving Joke behind, Tattoo calls the police on his friends. Had it not been for Jack (in ep 3), Joke would have probably been killed off. But what happens after that? He is forgiven by everyone, because you know his "upbringing and circumstances".
Jack, who says oh so painful things to Joke time and time again, treats him like dirt, and is literally the first one to break their promise of leaving the shady life behind but of course, a sweet cuddle is enough for people to forgive him.
Save!!! He poisoned Jack's grandma, literally played with the lives of the entire community, someone died because of him but what happened? All he had to do was tend to Jack's bruises and play the fucking game and suddenly he's a hero!
But no, of course Joke does not deserve forgiveness! He does not even deserve a chance to explain himself. It's as if everyone else is living in some kind of mystical land where actions have minimal to almost no consequences and Joke is the only human out there.
I love this show with all my heart and it's probably gonna end up as the best show of the year for me but this kind of dualism towards Joke really pisses me off.
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godfrey-the-chaos-duck · 2 months ago
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Glomgold Night Highlights!!
as @violetganache42 is on vacation, I'm taking on the highlights post for tonight! Now, I missed a lot of the later part of the night so if anyone has any particular moments they want to add in a reblog, please do!
The Ballad Of Duke Baloney! (DT17)
Me finally showing up on time for the start of the thing for once!!!! (buuut i had a black screen for the whole entire thing, Le Sad)
@hueberryshortcake and @luckyduck-main crocheting during this movie night, we love to see it
Everyone LOVING Zan Owlson (as we SHOULD)
Me: "so glad i can follow this with just audio" @hueberryshortcake: "have you tried not being in Ireland" (idfk why the black screen happened but it's not the ireland thing lmao)
(When Glomgold put the fish in the wedding attire and the dynamite out of the boat) @puffyducks: "HE'S TARGETING THE BISEXUALS"
@writebackatya, @hueberryshortcake and I straight up Goncharov-ing a new (and controversial!) DuckTales episode wherein Glomgold was an unassuming pastry chef, the Pep factory is involved, and Gladstone gets killed with hammers. Twice.
The weird-ass dream sequence and the rise of Duck In A Top Hat Thursday (Sunday)
@smugrexx: "Glomgold is just Duke Baloney's self insert OC that he's been cosplaying as for years without end" Me: "nonono, Glomgold is his drag persona, think Chappell Roan"
also @smugrexx posted this
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During the scene where Scrooge and Glomgold make the bet, I quoted "And no-one else was in the room where it happened" (i'm a hamilton girlie)
Master Of The Djinni (DT87)
People saying the genie sounded like King Candy from Wreck-It Ralph
@puffyducks "trying to get some ice cream and my BITCH rival is there too"
SCROOGE AND GLOMGOLD IN DRAG
The 87 Cent Solution! (DT17)
me being insufferable about tennant's voice as per usual (this episode is my absolute uncontested favourite) @tealottie I carried the torch for us both. also i was quoting the episode to myself as we watched cause I know that bitch by HEART
@hueberryshortcake "This is literally me every time I get sick I am so annoying sorry, I'M LITERALLY FINE" (i can relate)
Me, to Scrooge: "My good sir. Denial is a river in Egypt."
@writebackatya "Scrooge should get robbed more often, just to keep him on his toes" @smugrexx "Honestly pretty good company test, like any random day of the year one random employee steals like a cent from him and we see how it goes."
@luckyduck-main "BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM ZAN" (YESSSS)
@alex31624 "chicken soup in front of gyro" (duck logic amirite)
Scrooge muttering angrily to himself while the kids count his money
Me, at the scene on the bridge right before the plane crash: "HE AIMS HIS PISTOL AT THE SKY! wAIT--!" (again, hamilton girlie)
@luckyduck-main finding the script for me cause I was curious (thanks btw!)
"Et tu, Headless Man-Horse?" (BEST LINE)
ALL I DO IS WIN WIN WIN NO MATTER WHAT
@puffyducks (about Glomgold's tomfuckery)
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A Whale Of A Bad Time (DT87)
Everybody spamming "A SEA MONSTER ATE MY ICE CREAM" in chat. Well done, guys
Navy Donald shoutout
Raiders Of The Doomsday Vault! (DT17)
One Piece jokes in chat
LUDWIG VON DRAKE, EVERYONE'S BELOVED
"STAND OUT, ABOVE THE CROWD, EVEN IF I GOTTA SHOUT OUT LOUD" (powerliiiine)
Glomgold and Scrooge on the ice being a Toxic Yaoi Moment Of All Time
GlomTales! (DT17)
EVERYONE jokingly Della-hating cause that discourse is Ridiculous
people quoting the GlomTales intro in the chat yeaaaa
@spamtoon typing. very oddly
FAMILY IS THE GREATEST SCHEME OF ALL
anyway this night was SUPER fun, omfg THANK YOU
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charmac · 1 year ago
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They’re not allowed to read fanfic? Darn, I kind of assumed Rob found your Twitter handle from reading your fic since he didn’t seem to do anything else on twitter when he followed you
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So it comes down to the basic idea of copyright. It’s not illegal or technically even banned, but since RCG are creators, writers, producers, etc. on Sunny and not just actors, it’s really a dicey area for them.
The copyright laws/legality of fanfiction is actually really interesting, there’s a long, messy modern history of fighting for the right to publish and protect fanfiction from studios and/or creators claiming copyright infringement. This use to be a huge issue where authors would send cease and desists to websites like Fanfiction.net to take down all fanfiction of their work. OTW (Ao3) kind of spearheaded the right for fanfiction to exist apart from what it's derived from. The T standing for Transformative argues that because fanworks ‘transform’ the content they are based off, they are exempt from copyright law, as long as there’s no profit. So we cannot find ourselves in legal trouble for publishing fanfiction. As long as it's transformative (aka you're not just republishing source material), it's new/original content.
So that means fanfiction kinda has its own protections in return. As long as you're not profiting off of your work, you have a right to claim that your fanfiction and the ideas that are new/original belong to you. Which means if there is ever any proof that a creator read your work and then a later episode (or sequel, book, etc.) reflected anything you wrote that was not already in the source material prior to that, it can get very messy, in that there may be grounds for you to claim they profited off of your work. So most creators (writers especially) avoid reading fan works.
You can see why for a show like Sunny they might be especially careful reading anything, since there’s so much you can do in that show. If RCG have an idea for something as simple as The Gang Goes Camping, for example, but they’ve previously seen or read a fan work that hit that plot they’d be pretty inclined to never make the episode.
The basic idea being that you don’t want to hinder what you can in good conscience, with no legal issues, write, so you avoid fanworks all together.
I'll give you an example based on what happened with Charlie: he was in public and surrounded by fans and one fan hands him his spec script, or plot idea for an episode. If he had read it, all of a sudden whatever was on that paper becomes a legally grey issue in the writers room. If they liked the plot idea or dialogue (or whatever was on that paper) and end up using something in an actual episode, what claim does the fan now have? Everyone at the event could potentially tell you that this fan contributed to the show, so it's best not to read it. Don't risk ruling out a plot line you may have wanted, don't risk accidentally stealing from a fan, don't risk the show ending up in a legal battle.
Also, first anon: I still don't know why or have any solid proof as to how Rob found my account, but at the time he followed me I did have a 5hr old Tweet with ~15k likes reposting one of his TikToks and calling him the cringiest person alive. I didn't tag him or name him, he didn't like it, or interact with it or any of the replies or literally any other Tweet that day, but I have to imagine he saw it and that's why he followed me. Degradation kink overrules everything else.
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classyruinsbarbarian · 22 days ago
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I’m lowkey sick rn lmfao so out of curiosity:
How do you think various villains would act while sick?
(You can pick who to talk about but you know who I wanna hear about lmao)
Reason
I would imagine that he will prepare for the worse and hope for the best. Well Rhyme is freaking the FUCK out and tries to take him to the hospital whenever the cough is worse then usual.
He'll stay out of crime even if it isn't bad to avoid it either getting worse or getting someone else sick.
He stays home and rests and if he's bored do a crossword, do a chore, or just write a poem.
He is so used to the cold however that as soon as he gets a fever, he will just want Rhyme near him all the time because oh my goodness I feel like shit.
Reason would wait a day or two after he doesn't feel sick just in case.
Let's be honest they would realize that they have literally NOTHING to help with illness (idiots forgot to steal medicine while traveling)
He loves soup a lot and now he has a pretty good reason to thrive off of it for multiple days.
Victoria Best
You will NOT believe how far she will go to hiding this sickness from anybody just so she can keep her best status and if someone finds out she'll just pull the she only has a headache/stomachache and that wouldn't stop her, but if you keep pressing, she'll say "I'm the best at not looking sick unlike everyone else!". Or just use her recorder.
IF HER PARENTS OR BROTHER FINDS OUT? OH BOY.
Her parents would scold her for being sick (the shortest lecture was 38 minutes) and they would try to get her to practice something, but to avoid her from getting anyone sick they give her pain medicine and cough medicine and just leave her.
Her brother will gloat on how he's the best at NOT getting sick. He wouldn't tell their parents, but he wouldn't get her any medicine. He will leave and will have a smile on his face for the entire day.
She is actually pretty good at making sure that no one else gets sick so it wouldn't be traced back to her. (please just wear a mask, you could say that one of the butlers was ill)
If Leslie finds out, missing posters of Victoria is going to show up because Leslie took her back to her house to look after her (this has happened multiple times and no one traced back to Leslie yet)
Invisibill would give her medicine or a ice pack, he would also ask if she wants somewhere to stay, but she always said no. (then Leslie nabs her anyway)
Big Left Hand Guy
He would feel really bad for Invisibill because now he wouldn't be able to help on crimes (especially if they were planning to do one)
Invisibill would pamper him as soon as he realizes that he's sick. (This has a 90% chance of him also getting sick, this is also a reason to cuddle with him because hey! He's not going to get out of bed anytime soon)
He would try to get Invisibill to stop because pup's going to get sick, but most of the time this doesn't work.
His back and left hand starts feeling sore all the time when he's sick; it's one of his least favorite things when it comes to being sick.
The thing is, is that they are in a apartment where most of the residents are ghosts and ghosts can sense sickness so many of their neighbors end up showing up with cards, food, and other things.
Invisibill tries to make him soup, he somehow burns the water in the process.
Left gets annoyed by how much attention he gets while sick however, he rather sleep instead of having to deal with neighbors or other villains showing up. (he is a light sleeper)
Invisibill
He usually gets sick from Big Left Hand Guy.
He adores all the extra attention from everybody (though to make sure that his boyfriend doesn't suffer, he wouldn't tell anyone, just have them find out manually unless if it gets real bad)
But Invisibill cannot handle being sick, he hates it so much.
This ends up with him becoming a grumpy old man in attitude.
He still tries to do crime and ends up regretting it (he didn't even get to the place he wanted to rob)
Chip & Harry (Seymour's brothers)
Chip hates living while Harry is trying to make sure she doesn't drink too much cough medicine again because he wasn't paying attention or mistaken it for a different type of medicine (it happens again)
Seymour ends up buying a lot of things; from their favorite foods and drinks, to a shit ton of medicine, to weighted blankets and plushies.
Chip is always the one that ends up being the most sick out of all of them. Thus making xe want to avoid them so they wouldn't get sick.
Harry would be the one to drag Chip out of hiding so they can try to do something fun instead of trapping themselves in a room.
They play uno, casting shadows, or some other board game if they can; Seymour and or their mom will make something to eat.
Once Beau dates Seymour again: he brings some ice packs, medicine, and makes a dish because he usually stays until midnight.
Despite how shitty it is being sick, it's nice for the family to come together and end up doing a shit ton of stuff. (they always do this multiple times a week anyway even if they aren't ill)
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myths-tournaments · 1 year ago
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Awful Characters Round 3 (3/8)
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Propaganda under the cut!
BENNY GECKO
The first thing that happens in new vegas is that benny fucking shoots your character in the face, steals your shit and leaves you in an open grave. Benny is by all accounts a bastard. He kills you, steals from you, he killed his last boss, he is the single most duplicitous man around. His gang are all about honesty- except him. He's a lying, cheating bastard. The guys who helped him catch you? He skipped on paying them and left them to get shot to death. His new boss, mr.house? He stole his robot, broke it open, got someone to reprogram it and decided to use it to TAKE OVER THE WHOLE OF VEGAS. Benny literally kills people, lies to people, steals their shit and takes charge. That's all benny does. He gets fucking CRUCIFIED if you don't help him out just because so many people fucking hate him. And yet. And yet. Benny is the single most compelling character in the whole game to me. He's just a little guy! He's just there! You can get shot in the head and come back and he goes "what in the goddamn" and then if you try and flirt with him he's like "uhhh sure? Okay?" And leaves you a polite note in the morning. He's fancy. He wears a stupid suit. He has a tiny gun with shitty bullets. He's catholic. He talks like an old timey news presenter. Literally nobody else in the entire game does that. He's got an intelligence of 3. He's my funtime boy. My silly little man. He's so funny. The antagonist in this game is a guy dressed like a tablecloth who looks at all times like a confused dog who doesn't understand what a tv is. And like. He's compelling. He robs from you, shoots you, but…. he never seems to actually wish you harm. He kills and robs and lies but like. He apologises for doing it to you. When he sees you again he doesn't attack you, he's just… confused. He tries to defuse the situation. You can convince him to talk to you, alone, with no guards and it's not that hard. If you spare his life, he doesn't go after you, like. Even if you sleep with him he doesn't take advantage of that and kill you, even if you try to. He… he just leaves. He gives you an apology. If he gets kidnapped by Caesar He just… apologizes again. He tells you his whole plan to take over the city, too. He thinks he'll die, and he wants something of him to survive. He's happy that you made it. And if you let him free, he just… leaves. He knows he's beat, he doesn't want to cause any more trouble. He walks out and leaves. The NCR will kill you if you cross them. The legion will crucify you. House? He'll blow you the fuck up. But benny, the guy who lies and cheats and schemes, he's honest. He's polite. He's… harmless. You can kill him with a single shot if you want. And he can't kill you. He doesn't kill you the first time, and he'll never really hurt you again. Benny just wanted to win. When he knows he's beat he just leaves. No lingering, no harm, he's off, off into the desert heat, and never seen again. Isn't that just insane? like have you ever known an antagonist so polite? He just leaves!! He offers you a drink!! His plan is genuinely probably the best one for the people of new vegas!!! He's. Benny is Benny.
Anyway if you want to see some REAL propaganda go to the blog letmebegaytodd and look in the #benny tag. You'll Understand < https://www.tumblr.com/letmebegaytodd/717051175751614464/in-another-life-i-wouldve-really-liked-just> <- look at this shit man
AEMOND TARGARYEN
I've seen twitter (and tumblr) users call every HotD character fans bad people (because obviously everyone who doesn't support the same side as them in the show is evil) but personally Aemond is my favorite little war criminal. He's murdered a child (his nephew(14yo)) because he stabbed his eye out when they were younger (very stable family), all of that kickstarted a full on war. He's also thought about murdering his brother to become king instead. He does have drip though (replacing his missing eye with a sapphire), and he's his mom's favorite child (aka the only one who ever has an idea what's happening). And we're not that far in the show yet but he also gets a hot witch girlfriend. (Also everyone in HotD is a bad person, just pick your favorite war criminal like the rest of us)
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nixshiimin · 7 months ago
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⭑.ᐟ : StrayKids with dc Characters :>
。𖦹 : I loved this a bit too much.. / mentions of crashing, DC!AU, swearing, NSFW at Seungmin's part lmk if I missed something :]
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. B.C
He would definitely hang out with batman. I stand with that.
They would get along so well.. until Channie crashes the batmobile T_T
Definitely the type to wear bats his costume and then say it stinks due to batman his sweat.
"Do you even wash this thing..?"
Bruce will be so fed up, but hey, he raised so many kids. He can withstand it all.
Will definitely talk about how raising kids is hard .
Chan will also steal batman his gadgets, and one of them ends up almost exploding ! ×o×.
. L.MH
Catwoman. (Act surprised)
He will ask if she's an actual cat and he will be disappointed when she says that she's an human being like him.
"Why are you called catwoman if you aren't even a cat?"
Selina will teach leeKnow how to steal, and he will be so proud after he robbed someone until he realizes that he literally robbed someone and gave them a trauma.
Selina is not surprised when he mentions that he has 3 cats himself and even shows pictures and shit.
Definitely hang out a lot in cat cafés
. S.C
Surprise, surprise...superman! Who could've known. ^^
Binnie will definitely ask for his workout routine.
Clark is honestly impressed by Binnie his body. (Slightly jealous aswell)
Bin offers Clark a protein shake and he loves it (he doesn't but he can't make binnie sad)
"You are so strong, holy fuck. I don't know if I want to be with you or be you"
Definitely go to the gym together and impress everyone.
Shy binnie gets flustered when Clark gives him compliments about his body or him in general. ּ ֶָ֢.
. H.H
I have multiple for jinnie so let's talk about them!! ; poison ivy, batgirl, katana, starfire or raven :>
I think I'm going to talk about raven for now!
He will be so fascinated about her and will truly listen to her.
Raven will be so grateful that he is quiet and not loud af (even tho he can be loud at times)
They understand each other, and they both appreciate it.
I can see hyunjin painting raven when she is meditating, yun trying to paint very slowly until he drops his paintbrush on accident >_<.
He will be so sorry while raven comforts him, saying it's okay (he feels so guilty)
"I'm so sorry! I'm okay with buying lunch for us? I insist!"
. H.J
the flash [:
Now listen, they really share the same braincell. (And humor).
I bet han doesn't believe he's the fastest human alive and asks him to get stuff from other countries .
"If you're so fast..get me a water bottle from America!"
"Okay.. I believe you..for now"
Barry and Han hang out a lot (trust), they go literally everywhere Han hasn't been. (Certain countries, etc).
They game. A lot. With so many snacks from different places (Han's idea).
Finds it interesting how Han can sleep everywhere and even does research about him.
L.YB
I think he would also hangout with the flash or starfire !!
The flash and Felix would definitely match eachothers energy but I think barry fitted better with hannie!
Felix screams starfire vibes.
Star would ask so much about Felix and how he lives, etc.
Felix? He would do the exact same .
They would spend the day shopping and doing girl things idc they deff would.
Felix would show star things he likes to do and she copies him!
"So you have laser eyes? fucking awesome?!"
Best friends, maybe even family :>
K.SM
I'm lowkey biased with this but..JASON FUCKING TODD.
SKIP IF UNCOMFORTABLE
Imagine AK!Jason and seungmin just degrading you like you are their little toy >< you are their hole for them to use!
Doggy lovers at it's finest.
MANHANDLING I REPEAT MANHANDLING.!!!
Aftercare is so sweet, they shower you with so much kisses and praise.
"You took us so well, hm? " FUCK.
SFW
Definitely go on a killing spree for fun.
They act like THOSE teenage boys you see at the mall yk.
They are so sweet behind the scenes tho.
Jason Definitely teaches seungmin about fighting and stuff .
. Y.J
Robin or nightwing :>
Dick will show I.N all the flaws of becoming a superhero and will even show him the batcave if he wants to!!
Best buddies, and you can't convince me not.
they fight crime together, like real brothers :)
"Im so bad at this nightwing"
"You'll get it, don't worry Jeongin."
BROTHERS4LIFE, AND YOU CANNOT TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME
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it-is-i-zim · 1 year ago
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A little bit of a rant but I really don't like it when non-Captain Boomerang try to portray Captain Boomerang as this like cold hearted, stone cold killer. I understand why it could possibly appear that way to someone who knows absolutely nothing about Captain Boomerang, outside of this one character in 2 different comics, but like as a fan of him, it's getting annoying to see people act like he goes around murdering people on purpose. Hero or not. Presumably he'd probably be more uncomfortable with killing children or teenagers.
"But what about Hack???" I hear no one yelling but just to cover all of my bases... HE CANONICALLY FELT LIKE SHIT AFTER THAT!!! He literally states "I can't believe I just did that" with a clear look of shock, and possibly horror, on his face. He literally cannot believe he killed someone. But he feels that he has to because he's "the bad guy." And bad guys kill people. That's what they do so he feels that in order to be a good criminal, he has to kill, even if he fuckin hates it. Even if he feels bad about it.
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And not too much longer after this, Harley notices that it's eating away at him. She doesn't know what specific, but she knows he's distressed about something. So she asked if he was okay.
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His response is very telling, "... I did a bad thing, Quinn." He looks so guilty about the whole thing. It's also clearly meant to sound like he genuinely feels bad about what he's done.
"What about Jack Drake" I hear probably no one asking still, but just in case, again, covering all my bases here. This is a bit more of a complicated thing. Especially considering the fact that the comics was written 15 years ago by this point but it's recently come to people's attention as a result of a new comic called Robin: Knight Terrors, where issue 5 of Identity Crisis is referenced in issue 1 of Knight Terrors: Robin.
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I want to make something very clear. Knight Terrors isn't meant to be taken absolutely literally. It is simply exploring character's fears through the lense of a character's nightmares while at the same time trying to tie it to this new villain, Insomnia or whatever his name is.
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These aren't meant to be taken as what literal canon events. These don't accurately portray what happened in the slightest. These are just Tim's perspective on the events, combined with the trauma that Tim Drake received because of his father being murdered.
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First thing I'd like to point out, no words were said at all. Captain Boomerang literally didn't even see it coming until it was too late. He was only really there to break in, steal stuff, and leave. Still not necessarily something Captain Boomerang would do, he's more of a bank robber kind of guy. This is something well established but I don't want to waste everyone's time showing every single time he's robbed a bank or a jewelry store or convenience stor. Cuz that's what Captain Boomerang does. He steals from establishments, not individuals.
In Identity Crisis, Captain Boomerang is literally falling over after being shot 3 times in the chest as he's throwing the boomerang at Jack Drake. Jack Drake fired first. It was not Captain Boomerang's intention to kill anyone here. Cuz that's not what Captain Boomerang does. He doesn't kill unless he's trying to defend himself or he feels like he has to. He's not a killer.
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To add to this, in issue 6 of Identity Crisis, Tim literally did not get there until after his father was dead for some time. He did not witness the events that took place at all. Knight Terrors: Robin is based on how Tim would view the situation though a nightmarish lense by having his father die essentially on loop.
In short, Captain Boomerang is a thief, not a killer. He doesn't kill unless he feels it's necessary for one reason or another. He's still a bad guy, I understand that, but he's not murdering people at random and I'm kinda tired of hearing people thinking that that's his thing. Cuz believe it or not, Hack and Jack Drake are literally the only 2 examples I have for Captain Boomerang that aren't specifically part of a Suicide Squad assassination mission. Which if you don't know anything about the Suicide Squad, they literally have to do so or their head gets blown off. I guess technically Hack was killed cuz Harcourt and Captain Boomerang are working for The People, an organization trying to be just like the Suicide Squad, so presumably, the brain bomb situation still applies here, but on the other hand it established that I guess he volunteered or something like that? But my point still stands. He's existed since at least December of 1960, the publication date of his first appearance.
If Captain Boomerang was an actual killer, you would have definitely heard about it by now.
And I haven't even gotten into the fact that, at least like... 10 years ago or whatever, that Flash Rogues kinda have a code against killing and doing drugs and such. And Captain Boomerang is a Flash Rogue. It's not really physically shown anymore, but he still is. I mean just look at Aquaman and The Flash: Voidsong, issue 1. Right there, he's back with the Rogues.
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And even then, this isn't the best interpretation of the Rogues. Because contrary to popular belief, they don't kill Speedsters. This is yet another one of their established rules. They just don't kill. It's not at all what they do.
I feel like a broken record having to explain this time and time again. Because these guys are riddled with writers who just don't understand them. Writers often just use them as Bad Guy Numbers 1 through 15 or whatever, despite the fact that they are Flash's (at least Barry's anyway) main villains. And all they do is rob from banks mostly. Maybe a jewelry store. They don't go out of their way to murder people for no reason, even during a robbery. They don't go out of their way to kill heroes for no reason. I don't even think they've gone out of their way to even fight the Flash for any reason. He just shows up when the commit crimes. That's it. They aren't trying to kill him. They aren't trying to actually put people in danger. It's not what they do. And once again. Captain Boomerang is still one of them. Therefore he's not doing any of those things either.
This honestly wasn't necessary to explain, but I feel the need to share by perspective as a Captain Boomerang fan. There seems to be a Captain Boomerang Misconception™ that I've kinda witnessed within the Captain Boomerang tags alone with a bit of discussion involving Knight Terrors: Robin from Tim Drake fans in particular and Captain Boomerang isn't portrayed very will in comics about Tim Drake.
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queersouthasian · 1 year ago
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Jack&Joker - U steal my heart!
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One of the most popular Thai BL cps, Yinwar, are back with a heist themed BL after a long hiatus since Love mechanics.
*taps mic*
I refuse to spiral into insanity all by myself, so here is a thread of theories or rather poorly made assumptions regarding the characters and plot.
#1 Joker and Lupin
You know what Joker reminds me of, or rather who? Arséne Lupin.
Arséne Lupin AKA the 'Gentleman Burglar' is a French fictional book character,
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There is a French live action drama on Netflix called 'Lupin' where a guy named Assane Diop, a long standing fan of the books, imitates Lupin to avenge his father's death.
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Now, why am I mentioning Lupin out of nowhere? I remember binge watching the live action and wishing that one day we would have a BL with a similiar theme. The BL gods heard me lol. Joker, seems to be very similiar to Lupin/Assane. He is cocky, witty, bitchy, sassy and chaotically evil yet cares and loves beyond one may speculate.
And If Joker is our queer Lupin,
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Tattoo is our Benjamin,
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Benjamin used to replicate intricately made precious jewels/jwelery which helped Assane to rob the original and replace with the cloned item which looked indifferent to the human eye.
If that's that, if tattoo makes shit which gets used during heists, then maybe he was the one to create the gas which puts everyone to sleep. Literally anyone can argue that it could have been chloroform, something that's easy to access. BUT, considering the amount of 'chloroform' which flowed through the ventilators, people would have been dead. Atleast Anan. That shit results in muscle breakdown and can put people in coma.
And if we have the Assane, the benjamin, do we also have the Ganimard?
#2 Cards and Ganimard
Cards play an important role in the world of Joker, it's everywhere,
In his description
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on the loan papers
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It's his signature, of course.
But you know who else has a card related description?
Yes
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Jack has what we call the "ace of spades"...
Now this is where this gets interesting,
If the joker is the 'harlequin' which symbolises chaos, unpredictability, wit and intelligence; who exactly what Joker is, The Lupin, then Jack is THE ace of spades, which symbolises intellectual power or spiritual growth BUT carry the reputation of being the 'Death Card' popularised during the Vietnam War. It's a die or domino with a single pip.
And If Jack is the 'ace', he can be the queer Ganimard,
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This makes me think, either Jack will be the hindrance or guidance, maybe both.
It could be that, the only history Jack and Joker share is Jack getting conned by joker. IF joker did scam Jack on the 'superhuman project' which was assumbly his dream project yet Jack helps him, then he can be called inhumanely loyal and hopelessly in love.
"You are still kind and haven't changed"
And if Jack can cooperate with Joker so well (the whole fight scene against the guards), he would be the only one to know how Joker works or atleast have an idea. And If that's what it is, he would either directly join the heist by pretending to stop it and Joker, or he is actually going to do it 'cause, he is the "death card"
He is either with you, or against you.
The vibe till now seem very contrasting to Partners in Crime, while the later was more like a social commentry where two lovers rob the exploited, the rich. But this one is more like a cold witty thief who finds an extremely loyal admirer and falls for him BUT this could turn into a love story with betrayal. This show either is going to be chill, cool and quirky and little bit angsty OR extremely twisted and angsty. Let's see.
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quinnslogan · 2 years ago
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This movie feels so surreal, the quogan content we got after decades!!! But we were robbed of so much when it easily could’ve happened.
1.) I hate how we didn’t even get to see the ceremony?? They could have easily fit in the vows, the movie is based off of THEIR wedding. Give us more insight on their feelings for one another. To tease Micheal giving a great ceremony and not show it is cruel LOL.
2.) how the rehearsal dinner speeches about them were cut off / zoeys ruined because of her reality tv show dude. would have been a perfect moment to get some history about quogan. how their friends felt when they found out, etc.
3.) Quinn and Logan’s parent basically being furniture, again could have been good background to some history.
4.) the lack of any alone moments of them, besides the cute but quick makeup scene.
5.) Logan’s second little proposal was so short (sweet) but short. I needed a “we fell in love here” kind of thing. There was 0 mention of PCA being significant to their story and why Quinn loved the set up so much.
6.) chase and Zoey telling their stories to the jewelry store workers should’ve been quogan
I guess you can relate all this to being a movie with Zoey as main compared to the series where everyone had subplots. After years I can’t complain too hard but we did get the absolute BARE MINIMUM. It’s sorta sad.
Yeah I def agree ESPECIALLY about the ceremony. I can get over the lack of Quogan alone scenes because I got more than I expected but tell me how you make a movie about a wedding and don’t show the actual ceremony. It becomes especially frustrating when you realize Micheal’s role in the movie was basically he’s their officiate and they didn’t even let him do that??
We know there are deleted scenes I would bet good money they did film their actual wedding/Chase’s full speech but cut it for time reasons. It’s annoying bc literally who’s watching this movie for anything other than quinn and logan but alright. I will say though I am a quality > quantity person and I absolutely LOVE the scenes we did get so I’m not super disappointed just kinda annoyed personally but I do get where you’re coming from
ALSO THE JEWELRY THING! When that happened I wanted so badly for Zoey and Chase to continue pretending to be Quinn and Logan and tell the jewelry lady their love story but instead they told their own lame one 🙄
FOR THE REPROPOSAL I HAD SO MANY EXPECTATIONS but also I don’t think anything Logan said would’ve beat I love Quinn Penksy I love Logan Reese so again I could live with it 😭
The parents annoyed me so bad the number of scenes Logan’s dad was just standing there and didn’t say a single word was hilarious tbh😭 like he was basically just an extra they could’ve had their parents not there wouldn’t have made a difference. I do think again they did have lines but they were cut probably
But yeah overall a few more lines AND A TWO MINUTE CEREMONY would’ve made such a difference and I too am annoyed and blame j*mie tbh. ALSO CAN WE TALK ABOUT ZOEY AND CHASE GETTING BACK TOGETHER AT THEIR SECOND WEDDING LIKE WAY TO STEAL THE SPOTLIGHT?? I hated both of them this movie like sorry
But I’ll make my peace because this scene I never expected and i’m irrationally obsessed with it
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The Amazing Candy Canyon Kingdom (Super After)
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(Of Course, Spoiler Alert! Watch This V.D.O.(Virtual, Dynamic, adventurOus.) And If You Know Me And Gooseworx Well, You Can Understand This Lolli-Post.)
Howdy, Everyone! I Told You Before, I've Been Waiting For This For A Long, Long Time, So I'm Going To Be Watch This For The Next Three Days. But I Couldn't Waitin' Three Days. (Cuz I Like Caine And Pomni)
This Digital Amastic (Amazing And Fantastic) Show Is Goin' To Have Episode 9. Because Jax's Voice Actor, Michael Kovach Wanted Episode Featuring The Sea.
Also, I Found 6.4 Another-Advanced-Adventurous-Advantages In This Eclair-Pisode.
1. It Was Revealed Why Caine Sent Pomni The Nervous Clown, Jax The Dreaded Hare, Ragatha The Jax Caller, Kinger The All-Possible King, Gangle The Smiley-Misery-Saddery-Tear Master. (Zooble Did Not Join This Adventure. Because She Hated It.) Because Candy Canyon Kingdom's Most Valuable Resource, Maple Syrup Been Robbed! (I Was Shock-Prised Again, I Like Maple Syrup. Personally, I Like Chocolate Maple Syrup The Best.)
2. Brand New Goofy Characters. They're So Geeky As A Gloinks! Gummigoo Is Leader Of "The Syrup Bandits". They're Tryin' To Steal The Maple Syrup Truck. Princess Loolilalu Is The Queen-Shaped Princess. She Is Cheered By The Mannequins Of The Candy Canyon Kingdom. And My Favorite Character In This Kingdom Is "Fudge Monster", "Fudge"! He Can Doin' Too Acrobatic Fudge-Moves! With Melting Voice, Interesting Design, Ravenous Mouth, Blobby-Spits. And Totally Greatest Dinner END!!! (I'm Not Jax. Just, Whatever.)
3. Dashing Mad-Maxing Truck Scene. Rollcake Truck VS Snack Truck! It Was Such A Cool Scene! Jax's Waffle-Zooka Shot The Max. Gummigoo Shift The Engine To "Rocky Road". Max's Continuity Poses To Follow The Snack Truck. Gummigoo's Western Tough-Voices. Pomni's Double Swearing With Ugly Faces. (Jax, You Booty...! (Yes, I 'Hear'ded.) Are You Guys Trying To (Small Boink Sound)UCKING KILL ME?!) Kinger's Life Buoy And Anchor With Ropes. Drift-Fallout! And Fudge-Splorch!
4. Gummigoo And Pomni In Literally Digital World Scene. There, Gummigoo Realized That His, His Family, His Memory, And His Life Were All Just A Fake. I Thought This Sounded Weirdo-Noncence. But I Understood His Felling Feelings A Little. And The Scene Where Pomni Was By His Side Persuading And Comforting Him Felt Quite Fainting Paint. Kaufmo's Funeral Too.
5. Jax Seems To Have Become Twice Or Thrice As Evil Genius! He Wants More Violence. He Blamed Gangle. Hate Wholesome. He Think Bad Point Is A Great Point. He Hope Most Among The Worlds Caine Creates Is, "One Big, Final Battle. Bloodshed. Death. CHAOS!" And Unbelievably Disappointed By Fudge Monster's Death. He Didn't Even Attend Kaufmo's Funeral. And Fudge Monster Revived, Kingdom Doors Opened, And Candy Canyon Kingdom Was Turn Into CANDY CANYON KILLDOM!! What Can I Say, I Think He's Becoming More And More Like Me. (Not A Joke) Except For Blaming. I Have No Complaints There.
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6. Do You Watch The "POMNI WAKE UP TIME TO GO ON AN ADVENTURE"? In This V.D.O.(i said, Virtual, Dynamic, adventurOus.) Showing Kinger With A ShotGun! Jax's Minimum Wage Labor! Orbsman! Recorder! Ghosts! But Episode 2, There Were No ShotGun And Minimum Wage Labor And Orbsman, Recorder, And Ghosts. Well, I Understand Because I Gets Complicated If Glitchworx Put All Of This At Once. I Hope Episode 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, And 9.
6.1. Zooble Always Replaces Its Zooble-Parts Every Hour And Day, And Stores The Parts In The "Zooble Box".
6.2. Who Knew Gangle Could Drive A Truck? I Guessed Jax.
6.3. Do You Know About "Fudge"? Fudge Is A Soft Sweet Candy Made From Sugarly Sugar, Buttery Butter, And Milk. It Resembles Caramel, They're So Brown Like A Thick Mud.
6.4. JAX!!
And That's All I Know About The Amazing Candy Canyon Kingdom And Other Things I Found.
Episode 3 Is Said To Be Zooble's Episode, And Since I Find Out Zooble Was A Tattoo Artist Before Joins The Amazing Digital Circus. There's A Possibility That The Amazing Digital Zooblore Will Be Based On This Past.
And It Looks Like Episode 3 Will Come Out Around September Of October.
SO LOOK FORWARD TO IT!
[TO BE CONTINUED IN THE AMAZING MYSTERY OF MILDENHALL MANOR!]
P.S. https://www.glitchprod.com/thewackywatch
P.S.2. (Not A Playstation2)
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This Is The Triumph.
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violets-and-books · 1 year ago
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I also never received my goods. Please I want to read this so bad 😭 I'll take a nap for it 🙌
Here's the answer, Lore (literally, the full synopsis of my work, start to finish). Now go to sleep
I'm adding a keep reading because there is going to be a lot
Okay, so first of all, it's set in the show universe and this is for a very good reason, I promise you. In Shadow and Bone s2, Wylan is introduced. This is important because they speed up wesper's arc (which a lot of people are mad about but I don't honestly mind, I feel like it was still in character and I love the way they did it and, hey, they were the only happy couple in s2 so-). Anyway, the important thing is that at the end of s2, the Crows don't know Wylan's a Van Eck. Apart from Kaz, he does hint at it
So, basically, my fic idea (Bow Before Your King is the title, I'm quite proud of it) is set in the show universe. At the start of the fic, we have like one chapter of everything being alright for wesper. Kaz says they've got a new job. (Matthias is still in jail, btw, this is pre-Ice Court) They've got all the Crows apart from Matthias. Kaz's job is pretty big money and also surprisingly easy. There's a new exhibition coming to the Ketterdam Museum of Culture about an ancient Zemeni king - from long before the monarchy in Novyi Zem was abolished. Supposedly, a lot of the exhibit is solid gold. All they need to do is rob it.
Inej doesn't like it. Neither does Jesper. They've still got to go but Inej doesn't believe in stealing sacred artifacts, she thinks no good will come of it. And Jesper grew up in Novyi Zem, he learnt all about the legend and urban myths of curses and ghosts these kings protected their treasure with. Either way, they've got to do the job tonight.
Jesper nips round to Wylan's workshop for some distraction, where Wylan is packing for the job. Jesper notices some post on his table. Wanting to be helpful, he scoops it up and flicks through it. Most of its bills but one letter catches his attention. It's thick and good-quality and written on expensive paper. It's sealed with a wax crest with a laurel crown on it. A Mercher's writing to his boyfriend, but why?
Jesper asks Wylan about it. Wylan gets terrified and begs him not to open it, tells him it's just junk. Jesper calls absolute bullshit and opens it anyone. Out loud, he reads
Wylan, My son, if you can read this, know that I miss you and am begging you to come home. Please, if you can read this, come back to where you belong. Your father, Jan Van Eck
Jesper explodes at Wylan (which is honestly, quite understandable). He feels betrayed and lied to and they have this massive fight, Wylan defending himself and Jesper saying he thought he could trust Wylan to listen to his truth and tell the truth. (at this point in the series, we know Jesper's a Durast and about his mum and everything). I've got a brilliant little piece of dialogue which is just *chef's kiss*
Wylan: I learnt very quickly you had to lie to survive in the Barrel
Jesper: This isn't survival, Wy. This is us
^^^ This is how they go to the job. Keep that in mind while you read the rest of this
They go to the job, pissed off and not talking to each other. Inej notices and sidles up to Jesper, checking he's okay. In whispers (cos they're in a museum at night), Jesper explains the whole thing to her. He asks if anyone knew Wylan was a merchling. Inej says that she knew
J: What?!
I: Kaz knew too. And where do you think he gets his information from?
J: So does everyone know about my boyfriend's past but me?
It doesn't exactly make Jesper feel better (especially considering he was going to tell Wylan he loved him-). In this state of mind, he's feeling pretty reckless
They split off into groups when they reach the exhibition to find what they're looking for, which is a solid gold altar. Inej and Nina go off on their own while Kaz, Jesper and Wylan explore another side of the room.
Jesper finds the altar. Wylan tells him to be careful. Jesper scoffs and, true to book form, snarks at him and calls him 'merchling'. He leans his hand on the altar and tells Wylan that "nothing's going to happen."
Jesper gets possessed. By the soul of an ancient, young Zemeni king called Rhamani III, who was killed on the very altar Jesper leaned against. Once they all get over the language barrier (which involves a very annoyed Nina and Wylan slapping Rhamani, at Nina's insistence), they realise what a massive problem this is.
Not only does Rhamani have a Zemeni accent, he acts nothing like Jesper. He doesn't stand like him, he doesn't talk like him, he doesn't have the same opinions. He doesn't even know how to fire a gun. The only thing Jesper and Rhamani have in common is flirting with poor Wylan (who is, at this point in time, still in a relationship with Jesper that he's very committed to, despite them having fought)
Kaz insists Rhamani needs to stay out of the Barrel while they sort this out and instructs Wylan that he'll have to share his workshop (which is on Rozenstraat, a little way away from the Barrel) with Rhamani. Rhamani is delighted, Wylan is not.
While Kaz, Nina and Inej try and find a way to un-possess Jesper, Rhamani spends all of his time flirting with Wylan and distracting him from his work. Oh, and trying to convince him to break up with Jesper because, apparently, "Jesper lacks security as a lover. Security I can provide." He also thinks Jesper's powers are a curse, which he states. Multiple times. Yay... Jesper can still hear everything that's going on, by the way.
(so he also hears when Wylan turns Rhamani down and admits to him that he loves Jesper, for everything and despite everything)
Kaz brings a load of old Zemeni books to Wylan's workshop for Rhamani to work on. Rhamani, after Wylan asked him, said he wanted to help find how to 'free Jesper'. He starts reading one of the books and finds something. Wylan notices it in his face (he's very bad at hiding his emotions) and asks him about it. Rhamani accuses him and says he could just read it for himself. Rhamani is a king, not a commoner who reads to people. Wylan admits that, no, he couldn't just read it himself and if Rhamani has access to all of Jesper's memories (which he does) why didn't he know that already?
Rhamani makes up some excuse and Wylan accuses him of lying. They have a row and Wylan leaves. He heads to the Crow Club, where he finds Kaz, bleeding
In Kaz's words, he "walked into a fight I couldn't walk out of". Wylan gets him to admit that he needs Jesper just as much as the rest of them.
Wylan goes back to his workshop. Rhamani doesn't apologise but he doesn't mention the reading thing again. He tries to make a physical come-on to Wylan and Wylan very possibly breaks his nose. He runs again.
When he gets back to his workshop with Inej as backup, he finds the place is trashed. Chemicals and glass are strewn about the floor and the vapour makes him gag. Rhamani's passed out inside and Wylan saves him, much to Rhamani's surprise. They go to the Crow Club and lock Rhamani in Jesper's room. Wylan cleans up his workshop and tries not to cry about it.
Back at the Crow Club, the crows are trying a variety of techniques to get Rhamani to tell them how to lift the curse and free Jesper. He won't talk. When Wylan gets there, he appeals to the side of himself that Rhamani's always shown. He kneels beside Rhamani's chair and implores him, as a subject would, to return their friend to them. Rhamani concedes and tells them. The other crows are incredibly surprised at Wylan being able to do that. He just admits that A) he's grown up around men like that and B) you just need to know what side to appeal to to seem helpless
They go back to the exhibit and Jesper gets un-possessed (idk how yet but shhhhhh). Jesper and Inej have a little reunion but Wylan hangs back with Kaz. He wants to run to Jesper and hug him and cry that he's alright but he doesn't. He's scared to.
(also, in a deleted scene for the show, Jesper asks Wylan to move in with him so, that's what this next scene is about)
That night, when Jesper's in his room, there's a knock at the door. It's Wylan, bringing him some tea and coming to collect his stuff. When Jesper asks why, Wylan admits he didn't think Jesper would want him after what happened. They talk about the fight and it's all very cute and very soft and they make up. The end!
Now, you've got what you wanted. Please go to sleep
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