#also fuck you kris is dating berdly too

[zombvibes]

saying everyone who dislikes krerdly is gettig their shorts in a twist and krusie shippers are stupid for thinking they'd ever date each other unless it was a joke. jut doin your bit to promote shipping hostility I see lol

Assuming this is in good faith :

TLDR : LMAAOOOOOO I DIDN’T SAY THAT!! Anywho, have a lovely day! And I’m not saying this in a rude way, I genuinely do mean it.

Anyways :

What I DID say was AND I QQQUOTE : “Very glad I’ve never seen anyone seriously argue against kris/berdly. I mean out of all the ships to get upset at that seems the dumbest one to get your shorts in a twist about.”

You can reread yourself here : X

What I didn’t say was : “All people who dislike krerdly are getting their shorts in a twist about it.”

If you are ANGRY about krispy chicken then yes you’re a little silly. A lil’ goofy. It’s not that serious. If you just don’t like or care about krerdly, then that’s fine!

ALSO I FUCKING LOOOOOOVVEEE KRUSIE!!!!! Why would I call my fellow people stupid for wanting kris and susie to date?? That would be hypocritical of me because I also want them to date! They would just…date for the bit. In all seriousness though, krusie is one of my favorite ships and I hope they cuddle and hold hands. I was just poking fun at the ship…which is pretty normal for me to do. I do this with a lot of ships I like. You know how many times I goofed on suselle???? AND EVEN KRERDLY?!??????

AGAIN : reread the tags yourself : X

Anyways y’all taking shipping too seriously….CHILLAX!! Come, my friend…we can ramble about our favorite ships…together.

You and me. Me and you.

Also again for future reference, I goof on my favorite ships and people who ship them all the time. Like…didn’t I just call kriselle fans desperate for content like krerdly fans not that long ago?? And I also ship kriselle. Maybe if you goofed on your favorite ships too you wouldn’t be this upset with me idk…it’s fun you should do it.

[yousirname]

the fun gang

[susie-dreemurr]

Krerdly, for the ask game

Ship it / Don’t ship it

Why do you ship it?

The fan content tbh. Not the cutest fanart, specifically the comedy ones bc y’all are funny as fuck. Their meme potential doubling when they are together is real and true to me. And, also, it’d make some fun angst content with the snowgrave route, haha! ^-^

What are your favorite things about the ship?

The meme potential. The silly hahas. The funnies, even. Cringe gamers who think they’re cool and badass but, really, are just neuro-divergent teens Going Through It(tm) my beloveds.

They competitively play Roblox and Minecraft Minecrap together downing Monster energy drinks and totally info dumping about their fav games.

The majority of players hate Berdly (at least before blue bird) and if it’s the case let’s be real here, Kris the little shit prankster they are /lh would date him at least partly to annoy the player. Like this:

Imagine this: Kris uses puppy dog eyes on him so he can do their homework (canonically Not the type of nerd who cares about school lol) and what’s Berdly supposed to do???? Say no to his infuriatingly cute partner???? Not say “sure thing babe” and give them a little kiss???? Too bad because that’s exactly what he does, he’s also a little shit who, post ch2, is in the side of Ignorance And Stupidity now, failing all his classes 👍. Stop looking at me with that surprised pikachu face, bae your friends were the one who made me have character development! Don’t need to test me 😌 and then Kris considers snowgrave-ing him for a moment.

Is there an unpopular opinion you have on the ship

I don’t think so, no. Although I always see funny content about Kris being rude-ish to Berdly, guys pls I like Berdly but he’s such a little prick too lmao. Canonically was rude to Kris multiple times, let them both tease each other.

[impossiblyatomictiger-blog]

When Susie made the ... implication ... that her and them were making out, Kris's imagination started to run wild. And now it was nearly three in the morning, and they, still, were stuck on thoughts of Susie.

Of them going on dates with her.

Of them making out with her.

They needed to deal with these ... feelings. They hadn't felt them this strongly since ... Well, it's been a long time.

Susie was just big and butch and amazing! And they were ... the weird kid. Though, they thought, on the other hand, she was also an outcast in some way. Maybe they could work?

When Kris came to their mom, Toriel, was opening their blinds. Maybe they could tell her about their crush. They really didn't want to though.

The drive to school proved they wouldn't have to.

"Miss Alphys told me that you told her that you had lost sleep due to Susie, and, in her words, you said it with no 'negative intonation.' Do you have a crush on Susie?"

Fuck.

"Yes?"

"Oh, how my little one has grown! She was so polite last night, and she's been quite the good influence on you. Maybe you should ask her out?"

"Maybe."

"Don't maybe me, Kris. The two of you have become fast friends. Perhaps you'd be good partners as well?"

Their arrival at school ended the conversation.

"Have a good day of school!"

"You too. Love you mom!"

"Love you too, Kris."

School went as usual. Kris did their work: they had no desire to concede their battle for salutatorian with Berdly. It was ... much more pleasant to see him lose.

Lunch was much more pleasant then before. Now, instead of sitting alone in the tree furthest from school, but still on campus, they were sitting with Susie.

"Is this what you always see up here?"

The view was nice: Autumn trees stretched out as far as the eye could see, with some stretching far beyond their neighbors canopies. It was almost enough to distract them from looking at Susie.

"Yeah."

She punched them in the arm.

"You shoulda told me about this before."

"Ow," Kris said, rubbing their arm. They shoved Susie; she shoved back. A wrestling match had started. They shoved back and forth a few times, but Susie was much stronger than them. She ended up on top of them.

She was smiling so broadly.

Her teeth...

Her eyes...

They wanted to kiss her.

They stared into each others eyes for just a moment.

"You have red eyes?"

Kris's mind started to race, but before they could start spiraling:

"They're so cool!"

Oh. She liked them-- their eyes.

"You do?"

"Yeah! They're so pr-- um, nice-looking."

Susie put one hand behind her head.

"Uh, thanks. No one's ever said that before."

Susie was blushing. Was she flustered? Maybe they could actually--

"Wanna go on a date?"

Fuck. They really said it on accident.

"Yes."

Susie said yes. Fuck yeah!

[mymarifae]

relationship charts because. i’m mentally ill. dark and light world versions

things i didn't include because i was sick of drawing arrows / it would have been unreadable:

kris and noelle are trans childhood besties too ofc. they’ve drifted apart lately but the way they Instantly reconnect in the dark world... sniffles

lancer is like a little brother to kris too

kris has accepted queen’s adoption of them

kris and ralsei’s friendship is complicated. it’s hard to be friends when it’s like looking in a mirror, but instead of your own reflection, you’re looking at the version of yourself you always wished you could be. the red soul stuff doesn’t fucking help. ralsei wants kris to be his friend, but he understands that there’s a barrier between them that may never come down. he’s trying to be okay with that

noelle appreciates what queen tried to do for her, but is put off by her immediate familiarity. she still thinks she’s nice tho

spamton’s life is hard. it’s hard, being adopted as a pet hamster by a group of weird teenagers, and no one understands

see, kris loves toriel. but it’s a strained kind of love. kris has grown up hyper-aware that they are different from everyone else in hometown, and for all her effort, toriel has ultimately only contributed to that. they don’t like being coddled from what i can tell, and well. guess what toriel’s best at. they’re aware that it’s only because she loves them so much, but it doesn’t make it any easier

noelle is also (doing her best to be but her mom won’t let her dress the way she wants but she’s Slowly finding ways to manipulate her closet) goth occult buddies with catti :)

noelle and jockington are pals too. she’s the (goth) jock of susie’s dreams

speaking of, susie’s not as head over heels as noelle is, but the crush is definitely there. more of a baffled crush. like “why is this pretty girl so nice to me all the time??”

this is an appreciation zone for noelle and berdly’s friendship. they both have bad habits of putting up a front when around their peers (opposite ends of the scale .) but they relax when it’s just the two of them. they grew up together... they are like siblings... and just like siblings, they annoy the hell out of each other sometimes but they’re inseparable (i feel so normal and ordinary about this)

kris was never as close to berdly as noelle over the years, but they’re still like, grudgingly friends..?? he’s easier to talk to after the dark world shenanigans at least

berdly does not have a crush on susie he’s just bad at deciphering his own feelings

i don’t think sans is trying to date toriel (not against the idea though) i just think it’s really funny if kris thinks that’s what’s going on and he goes with the assumption and teases them because he also thinks it’s funny

i would like to see catti and susie bond in a later chapter. i think they would be good pals.

fuck yeah nubert

[clambuoyance]

Deltarune Ch 3 Theory (Spoilers!)

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This will be sort of a ramble, and I’ll do my best to include screenshots, but this is my personal theory and thoughts on what’s happening and where Ch 3 is headed. Most of this stuff has probably been said by others, so this is mostly for me to come back to!

1. Kris

So there are a lot of moments that seems to hint to Kris’ homelife and I’ll just sort of go through them here. 

When you look through the room Queen trapped you in, there’s a calendar with a vacation date circled from a search query about when college has summer break. Given how close Asriel and Kris seem to be, I’m pretty sure Kris is really anxious to see Asriel and have his support back. 

Because Toriel and Asgore seem to have divorced fairly recently? Or at the very least, I think it’s still definitely taking a toll on Kris, and Asriel leaving does NOT help at all. It makes me wonder if there’s more to him leaving for college. 

There’s another curious thing where if you  decide to look through Asriel’s room, Kris shuts their eyes and seems to not want to see what’s inside, despite what the Player might want. Why? Afraid of what they’ll see? What could Asriel possibly be searching for that Kris would be afraid of the truth?

I think some incident happened in the past, one that’s related to the Dreemurr and the Holiday family growing apart, Noelle’s sister “Dess”, and Asgore apparently being removed from the police force. (If maybe he was powerless or cowardly to do something, this could have led to a divorce and Asriel leaving? I’m not sure, but I think Dess has died or its related tot he incident, and Asriel seemed close with them too so I’m sure it was also hard on him.)

(i didnt take a screenshot of the newsclipping with this info but ill put it here later lol)

Circling back to Kris, there’s several details that hint to Kris’ mindset, and basically, I think Kris doesn’t want to grow up because when you grow up you grow apart and don’t live out fun fantasies anymore. Maybe.

If you go to the flyer in the librarby,  and read the one about the ICE-E event that says “Where teens can still be Kids!” Kris is relieved, for some reason. Probably because they’re glad to hear they still technically count as a kid. 

Not directly related but if you go up to the upperright room and read the book about humans, Kris quickly shuts it. Given the similarities and hints to Chara from Undertale, it seems like Kris wanted to get away from other humans or humanity in general. Which also aligns maybe with Kris being fearful of the bunker. I really don’t know what to make it past this though. Crack theory was that the world of Undertale was just a Dark World Kris made as a kid or something. Or that when “Chara” fell, it was a fall similar to how Kris and Susie fall when entering a Dark World. Lmao probably unrelated though.

2. Dark Worlds and Escapism

The Dark Worlds seem to function as some sort of escapism, and it’s interesting that they’re all based on real life things. In Chapter 1, the Dark World was based on the classrooms various toys like checkers, chess, cards, dolls,etc. In Chapter 2, it seems even more so with Noelle. Queen actually wants the best for Noelle and is very nosy and always chasing after her, in contrast to Noelle’s real mom who is always busy being a mayor. After all, Queen does know how sad Noelle’s search history probably is. (Mainly from this post!)

(screenshots to be added lol)

Kris probably feels the same way, as both Noelle and Kris grew up together and seem to be suffering from dysfunctional families or some sort of drama.

And Queen directly says in the boss fight with Berdly that the internet and the screens provide comfort for many people, and she is well-intentioned in wanting to help make people happy. Maybe for Kris it’s video games or roleplaying or toys or silly things, kind of like how many people in the real world do similar things. I wonder if the next chapters will each focus on a different character and other forms of escapism or storytelling. 

3. The Knight

So at the end of Chapter 2, Kris rips out the Player Soul and slashes the tires to Toriel’s car. Then later Susie talks about how cool it would be if they could bring Ralsei and Lancer and everyone to their world and hang out with them. Then Kris takes the Player out once again and pulls out a knife, fills the “Blade” with their “Will”, aka Determination, and creates a new dark fountain that encompasses their whole home (and maybe even the whole town). 

(screenshot laterrrr)

It seems that the tires were to ensure Toriel stays inside the house though, so maybe it’s just the house. If that’s the case, and Kris really is the knight, I think Kris wants to envision a better home where things are better. Escapism right inside your own home.

If it’s the whole town, then maybe Kris already had Susie’s idea and really is going to take everyone in a new Dark World so everyone can be together. That or Susie inadvertently gave Kris the idea..it makes me wonder if we’ll see Toriel in her outfit from Undertale, or something like that. The other reason I could see it being a town-wide thing is because now Kris has the knowledge of the Roaring (thanks to Ralsei).  I’m not too sure what their stance would be, but maybe they see a benefit to it?

After creating a fountain, a smile flashes on the tv, so I think the next chapter will be television based and feature a tv villain (though it does look like flowey...). Again, i wonder if each chapter will be some form of escape for some people. or maybe it’ll be a different theme.

Also, I just want to add that I really don’t see Kris as malicious or doing thing for a sinister reason. Or maybe it’s still fucked up and selfish, but not the evil people imagine. If you do the snowgrave route, Noelle doesn’t even recognize it as Kris’ voice. The sinister voice in that route seems to be the Player rather, being cruel and making Noelle make these traumatizing choices. Which is why I wonder if Kris is the Knight, or if it’s a red herring. Not sure. 

4. ANYWAYS

There’s a lot to unpack. Too much to unpack, like there’s a whole thing I could say about Big Shot and Jevil and Gaster. The way maybe Kris also knows the world is just a game (maybe thats why they hate humans?? were just like go puppet go lol). But i have no idea so this was just focused on Kris mostly, and Maybe i’ll talk more but I finished the game a few hours ago and I just had to get these thoughts out even if others probably already figured it out or think its obvious. It’s just really cool! Again, most of this comes from this theory, cus i havent looked much at others (YET) since i just finished today. Anyways, FUN GAME! 

If anyone has useful screenshots or whatever please feel free to add lol

[theuniversedreamteam]

You know what...? Everyone is out here making big deltarune lore theories, how about we just do some small headcanons for once...?

Collection of Small Deltarune Headcanons of mine (Chapter 1 & 2 spoilers)

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By the end of the game, Catty and Bratty will be best friends and will have gotten over their rivalry. Look they already had that moment at the beach. I’m willing to bet that within two chapters their views will have changed of each other

Kris could be a top student easily but doesn’t feel like putting in effort so they’re not. Look Berdly already calls them the classroom number three. That means that out of the whole class, other then him and Noelle, Berdly sees Kris as the smartest. Kid can be very good at school but cannot being themselves to put in the effort.

Kris is dramatic as fuck. I mean, you see that pose they do while sitting down...? Tell me they ain’t dramatic (Also with some of the pranks they played on Noelle...? They be super dramatic. Like, how many kids will put fake blood on themselves to scare their friend if they weren’t dramatic as fuck??)

Toriel will at some point invite Sans over to the house. Why? Well that’s for us to find out

Kris will only find even worse places to put us (the Player) when they yeet us out. Please Kris find better places to put us then the fucking couch. We can so easily escape from there. The cage is good enough.

Basing this on the popup fight alone, Kris is into monsters. Like in a dating way. Makes sense though given the fact that they’ve lived around monsters their whole lives.

Also based on the popup fight, Ralsei is into Lightners, same way Kris is into monsters

Asriel will come home in chapter seven.

Lancer will gain more dads through each and every chapter. Steven from Steven universe had many moms, Lancer gets many dads. He deserves it.

Berdly will not get over his crush on Susie. Unfortunately for all parties involved.

The reason why Kris eats so much weird stuff is because they are a human living off of monster food. Since monster food is not physical, it causes Kris to crave for more solid stuff: like moss.

Susie is a boss monster but doesn’t realize it. I am basing this off of the fact that she said that “everybody bleeds” when, assuming Deltarune follows Undertale logic, no the hell they do not. Monsters do not normally bleed unless you’re a boss monster... or if you’re Sans but we don’t know his deal. So Susie is a boss monster but does not know she is and just assumes it is normal for monsters to bleed.

This may also be why she’s so into physical food too. Because she’s part human in a way.

Now this may be me being hopeful but: Ralsei unlearns his harmful rhetoric saying that Darkners’ purpose is to serve Lightners. Because as soon as I heard it I thought that that sounded very sus and I’m worried for ma boi.

Speaking of Ralsei, the reason why he acted so weird when Susie asked him aboht his room is because he does not have one. He didn’t need one before Susie and Kris came because he had the whole castle, but now he put so much effort on making this place good for everyone else, he didn’t make time to make his own.

Even if he did make one though, Ralsei wouldn’t know what to put in it. He doesn’t have much sense of self.

Oh yeah and Ralsei also has problems with repression because I said so

Lets give this boi some angst-

Oh and Ralsei has tiny claws that can hurt.

Kris lets their nails grow out so that they too can kinda have claws like the rest of the family.

Ralsei does not have parents

Onionson is probably going to become important soon.

Asgore is probably going to have a character arc of moving on from his divorce

Noelle is going to face her mommy issues with her real mother instead of just Queen

Every single kid in class is going to go to the dark world at some point

Yo how cool would it be if Monster Kid gained like magic arms in the dark world...? I would be so happy for the kid

Like in Undertale, Monster Kid grew up with a tripping problem but he grew out of it.

We are going to have to deal with Snowy’s mommy issues at some point when they eventually go to a Dark World with us

We are going to find out that Jockington isn’t actually that cool

Burger pants- uh, Pizzapants’s girlfriend is going to be fake (I’m sure we all knew that though)

Sans is just going to be a normal dude for the whole game

Susie and Kris fail their project (what is the project even on??)

After seeing the soul turn yellow in the Spamton fight, I get the feeling that the soul will at some point turn every color throughout the game like in Undertale.

At some point, the game will close on us as game feature and open up to some fucked up shit. Or to a troll. Either-or works when you’re dealing with Toby.

Mettaton will find their self-confidence again at some point by the end of the game.

We are going to make Ralsei eat moss and he is going to fucking like it

[redsoul-kris]

uh huh! she also said pretty much everyone else in the class was at the diner too. even berdly! wonder what they're doing there...

Kris: ohhh shit huh

Ralsei: Kris, Susie, you should probably go! It would be fun!

Susie: eh, we're basically the class outcasts

Ralsei: Susie, aren't you dating the class star?

Susie: i mean fuck if i know how i did that

Kris: eh... tbh i kinda wanna chill here. i cant get frisk back in front of everyone anyway

Ralsei: Are you sure, Kris? It's a good opportunity to bond with everyone.

Kris: i'd kinda rather bond with you.

Ralsei: O-oh! Well, if you insist...

Susie: eyyyy they got you there, haha

[mymarifae]

i took like 5 benadryl to help me get sleepy so now i’m getting those Sleepytime Images and i knew i’d need to share this one w u bc it involves ur epic girlboss giselle so here we go:

i kno u mentioned how toriel and giselle have a very tense relationship and how kris and berdly dating Might pose some problems for giselle so just. imagine if you will. kris and berdly decide to go to the sadie hawkmans dance (or prom or whatever big dance of ur choice) like As A Thing. not just as friends but like. yknow. Going Together. and giselle’s happy on one hand bc ohhh her little boy is growing up he has a date!!!!! but on the other hand she’s like ah fuck. now i ACTUALLY have to talk to toriel (not for like. permission or anything. but esp w a big dance u gotta like coordinate outfits and meeting times and who’s taking pictures at What House—idk i went to prom alone but i remember this being a thing for a lot of my friends in relationships)

so she decides to be the mature adult abt things and invites toriel and kris over to her house for dinner (w berdly there of course). and Oh My God does it go poorly. shit is just AWKWARD right off the bat like giselle will try a joke and it just Does Not Land w toriel and so she just has to laugh it off while thinking “jesus christ is this how asgore feels???” like idk i don’t think toriel holds active animosity but i’m sure whatever lore u have for them both means toriel isn’t giselle’s biggest fan. esp w seeing berdly being so emotionally shut-in and independent. and it’s awkward for berdly and kris too bc they want this dinner to Work bc they want their parents to Like Each Other so things aren’t Weird but they’re also not rlly sure how to help??? and also they’re just nervous in general bc now the parent of their partner is here in the room w them so they both must be on their best behavior

this is mostly bc i’m picturing a dinner scene a la shrek 2 and i think it is so real it hurts. it’s made even better by the thought that giselle is probably so not used to cooking big meals since she mostly orders out (or berdly cooks for himself—he’s actually pretty good) so the cooking scene is a nightmare and it rlly colors the dinner scene So Well. by the end of the night things do get better tho. i think giselle and toriel sit w wine while the two kids play video games in berdlys room and they talk abt life and being single moms and giselle gets like. rlly honest?? which is New for her. and toriel can tell she means well and rlly is taking big leaps in being a strong presence in berdlys life so they forge a kind of bond. maybe a friendship! maybe not. up to u honestly it’s ur character i just like playing in the space and had to share :-)

eating a salad rn and the shrek 2 bit made me inhale a piece of lettuce because every time i think of that scene i think about this specifically now

so i was just imagining giselle spinning around in her office chair - that she for some bizarre reason decided to bring to the dinner table instead of sitting in a normal chair - while toriel glares daggers and kris and berdly watch in awkward silence. and it killed me

ANYWAY IT'S FUNNY YOU BRING THIS UP because i was actually thinking about the same scenario. berdly actually didn't tell giselle he was going to the dance with kris as a Date at first, because just. habit of not talking to her about important things. and then he belatedly remembers they're on better terms so he tells her, awkwardly, and he's like BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT OR ANYTHING, it's just a silly little dance.

much to his despair, giselle does make a big deal about it and she's like pestering him with questions about what he's going to wear, what kris is going to wear, are you two coordinating??? you two better be coordinating-- by this point she's known they were dating but if they're serious enough to go to the dance together, aka something that is really not up either of their alleys AT ALL,

maybe she should do that thing she's been putting off for a while now. talking to toriel. establishing just a bit of common ground with her. and so Dinner

toriel doesn't hold active animosity at all !! it's more so something giselle has fostered like - SHE responded to toriel with unnecessary hostility and toriel was like ok that's the game we're playing...?? basically toriel reached out to her a long time ago, when berdly was in her elementary class, because she had concerns about giselle's parenting and was worried she was letting work eat up too much of her time. stuff like giselle always being the last parent to come pick up berdly after school, berdly's marked aversion to joining the other kids in play, etc.

giselle's kind of a young mom? i guess if berdly is like 15-16 she's like... 34. so when this confrontation happened, she was still quite the hotheaded, spunky youngster (she's mellowed out a lot now). and she didn't take kindly to toriel's "overstepping" and kind of. blew up. "berdly is an incredibly capable child and does not need me smothering him the way YOU smother your own children."

yeah idk it's basically a butting of heads over parenting styles. toriel believes a child needs constant nurturing, and giselle believes a child needs Room to grow and needs the space to do their own thing. both of them take their respective approaches too far - toriel IS in fact smothering, and giselle is too distant. toriel has always been more mature than giselle and has been open to reconciliation from day one, if giselle will bow her head and take the steps to pursue it. which she hasn't been humble enough to do Until Now

the dinner is a bit of a mess. giselle is not a good cook and underestimates how long food takes to cook, so kris and toriel arrive a long time before anything is ready. berdly is Trying to help. he's begging her to let him help because she's so bad at this it's painful to watch. she keeps shooing him away - "i'm being a mom right now okay?! I'M going to cook for YOU." and once kris gets there she bans him from the kitchen entirely ("what is kris going to think? go spend time with them!")

i was thinking toriel actually helps her finish dinner instead ^^ which eases some of the tension and makes it easier for them to connect a bit later, when the kids aren't present. because when a teenager feels awkward they have this special power of making everyone else in the room feel 10x more awkward than they do. it's painful to sit through and berdly and kris eat as fast as physically possible and excuse themselves and i really do like the idea of toriel and giselle sitting together over a glass of wine or two... they'll never be besties but they have the potential to become decent friends once giselle sets some of her fiery pride aside :)

[mymarifae]

*holds berdly in one hand and holds asriel in the other* one nakes games n the other plays games, they r friends/big n lil brother

i think they get along :) but like. really awkwardly. whenever they have a conversation anyone else who happens to be within earshot is like "oh god when will it end *shrivels up into a raisin from secondhand embarrassment*" but meanwhile both berdly and asriel walk away thinking "fuck yeah. totally nailed that social interaction. go me!"

i don't think asriel really gets to know berdly until like.. post-deltarune. but he Knows Of berdly and his feelings are mixed, to say the least. he first met berdly shortly after the spelling bee, when berdly was still on the quieter side. he didn't really see much of him during that time period, because he was mostly noelle's friend, and the spelling bee was after dess's disappearance, and dess's disappearance caused a rift between the holidays and the dreemurrs, meaning asriel didn't see noelle as much as he used to.

and then come the early days of kris and berdly's "rivalry" - berdly is now an uppity, snobbish kid who won't stop bragging about his grades. rude and startlingly condescending for someone his age. for some reason he still keeps coming over to play video games with kris? this results in lots of yelling and name-calling from both sides and fighting over a controller. (on multiple occasions asriel wraps his arm around kris's shoulder after berdly leaves and is like, "do you want me to give that kid a talking to?" and kris just smiles and shakes their head.)

and then during kris's senior year asriel comes to visit during a holiday break, and now berdly has mellowed out just a touch. he's still loud and overdramatic, but the arrogance has been replaced with a conscientiousness. he has learned to listen and be a better friend. and also he and kris are dating now. to say that asriel is baffled would be an understatement. (no kris did not just neglect to tell asriel about this until he's back home for break. they DID tell him but he didn't believe them because [see previous descriptions of berdly's behavior] and he was like "funny joke kris 😂😂😂😂" and it's not until he's in hometown and the reality of it is undeniably shoved into his face that he's like oh they weren't joking.)

to put it succinctly they aren't 100% sure how to act around each other. berdly would like asriel to think well of him. he's already passed the Toriel Test, the Asgore Test, and the Rudy Test (kris's second not so secret dad), so he would really like for asriel to like him too..!! and while there's no longer (...much) animosity on asriel's part because the changes in berdly are Palpable, he's still kinda left reeling by how much things keep CHANGING while he's away at college. (he has yet to fully recover from the shock of coming home last fall [after the events of the game] and discovering that he has a new sister and her name is susie and she is very purple and big)

they find a common ground over obscure video game knowledge and like. glitches and speedruns and stuff. once they both start going on that topic it just. never ends. and even kris, who is a nerd themself and has a high above average tolerance for excessively nerdy rants that last for hours, is like "...christ." after a few of those back and forth overexcited rants tho they're good friends <3

also if we go with the idea that asriel is majoring in like. art and game design and is going to fulfill his dream of making a game that's fun because. i think berdly goes into video game writing, plot development and stuff. so one of berdly's first like, jobs in that field is actually writing for asriel's game! :)