#also I've never heard of whale star but that sounds neat!!

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I had a thought about the implication faye tried to help the dwarf rebels. What if the failed coup was her finally accepting that maybe she should accept fate, at least until she changed her mind upon having Atreus/meeting kratos. Did she have a few Midgard giant friends who survived to help her with the rebellion?

Did Faye poison anyone, even an innocent dwarf, out of fear of being ratted out?

I keep thinking about that backstory and comparing it to the Korean historical drama/tragedy Whale Star, which is about a young girl caught in a crossfire between Korean rebels and Japanese colonialism/rule.

Just imagine all the tragedy as the rebellion falls apart, with durlin believing Faye ditched her comrades in arms. And Faye herself trying to save the people she loves, but they’ve either disappeared from the nine realms altogether or died, mostly died.

I keep having these ideas on how even Faye herself wasn’t really an angel/hero most characters remember her as, that she to hurt people. And I’m not just talking about her fight with Thor.

Also, I want a romance between a dwarf and a giant. Specifically a giant woman.

Okay no but it's funny you say that [fic spoilers I guess if anyone cares] because I'd actually considered the possibility of the failed uprising being Faye's "last straw" but like, in a different flavor? Because for the way I've been writing her (still don't know to what extent this is canon but it's how I've started the series so I'm sticking to it), she doesn't know about a lot of the prophecy until she's pregnant already and is by and large resistant to caring about prophecy specifically because she's seen how obsession with it ruins lives. But even if you go with that, there's major amounts of tragedy there because something like that failing so spectacularly would hurt. Like after so many failures, the giants being unable or unwilling to start their own revolt, she finally gets together enough people that maybe something can be done and...

It can't. Odin and Asgard are too strong. After that, what's the point in doing anything? Why keep struggling, when it just ends in failure? So for the way I was picturing it, it's less about the prophecy and more like the helplessness of fighting against a much stronger opponent and how that can wear you down over time.

100% agreed about her not having been the perfect angel/hero, though, like my girl definitely had some rage issues and I feel like a lot of even her heroic actions could be read as reckless and self-destructive (that's how I've been reading them lol). And I really think that works because besides just making her more two dimensional, it's a great parallel to Kratos? And would explain why she was so willing to take a chance on him (regardless of when you personally think she knew about the prophecy). She's been there. She knows.

(Also I choose to believe that most dwarves who knew Faye were in love with her lmao, IDK if I can picture her reciprocating due to my own headcanons about her headspace at the time but they definitely were. Like I write her and Sindri as platonic but it was really only 95% platonic let's be real with ourselves-)

[angstandhappiness]

@haveievermentioned One thing for me is... I think Faye changed when Kratos insisted on naming their son Atreus, not Loki. Like that was a crack in the door of fate. If their son is both Loki and Atreus... what else can change?

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I had a thought about the implication faye tried to help the dwarf rebels. What if the failed coup was her finally accepting that maybe she should accept fate, at least until she changed her mind upon having Atreus/meeting kratos. Did she have a few Midgard giant friends who survived to help her with the rebellion?

Did Faye poison anyone, even an innocent dwarf, out of fear of being ratted out?

I keep thinking about that backstory and comparing it to the Korean historical drama/tragedy Whale Star, which is about a young girl caught in a crossfire between Korean rebels and Japanese colonialism/rule.

Just imagine all the tragedy as the rebellion falls apart, with durlin believing Faye ditched her comrades in arms. And Faye herself trying to save the people she loves, but they’ve either disappeared from the nine realms altogether or died, mostly died.

I keep having these ideas on how even Faye herself wasn’t really an angel/hero most characters remember her as, that she to hurt people. And I’m not just talking about her fight with Thor.

Also, I want a romance between a dwarf and a giant. Specifically a giant woman.

Okay no but it's funny you say that [fic spoilers I guess if anyone cares] because I'd actually considered the possibility of the failed uprising being Faye's "last straw" but like, in a different flavor? Because for the way I've been writing her (still don't know to what extent this is canon but it's how I've started the series so I'm sticking to it), she doesn't know about a lot of the prophecy until she's pregnant already and is by and large resistant to caring about prophecy specifically because she's seen how obsession with it ruins lives. But even if you go with that, there's major amounts of tragedy there because something like that failing so spectacularly would hurt. Like after so many failures, the giants being unable or unwilling to start their own revolt, she finally gets together enough people that maybe something can be done and...

It can't. Odin and Asgard are too strong. After that, what's the point in doing anything? Why keep struggling, when it just ends in failure? So for the way I was picturing it, it's less about the prophecy and more like the helplessness of fighting against a much stronger opponent and how that can wear you down over time.

100% agreed about her not having been the perfect angel/hero, though, like my girl definitely had some rage issues and I feel like a lot of even her heroic actions could be read as reckless and self-destructive (that's how I've been reading them lol). And I really think that works because besides just making her more two dimensional, it's a great parallel to Kratos? And would explain why she was so willing to take a chance on him (regardless of when you personally think she knew about the prophecy). She's been there. She knows.

(Also I choose to believe that most dwarves who knew Faye were in love with her lmao, IDK if I can picture her reciprocating due to my own headcanons about her headspace at the time but they definitely were. Like I write her and Sindri as platonic but it was really only 95% platonic let's be real with ourselves-)