#also I dont think that anon was actually trying to argue

[system-of-a-feather]

I'm also still not over the anon that tried to argue with me that chickens can't fly when I literally was interning under a leading chicken researcher, studied under a guy genetically modifying chickens to be more resilient in African climates to help prevent global hunger in 2050, and literally spent a fat chunk of my undergrad taking chicken classes like..... sir

I had to learn and memorize all the prevalent diseases a chicken in a laying or broiler setting could get. I think I would know if chickens could fly. (They can)

[hawkzeyes]

Hey I read through that argument about the Hawkeyes masks, that was kinda wild but you seem cool

Anyway I'm getting pretty annoyed at people who acf like Clint being HoH is "obscure" maybe at one point it was but not anymore and I'm pretty sure if you asked most superhero fans (or even non sh fans) if they knew hawkeye was deaf they probably would have at least heard about it

Also I'd say it's pretty clear some modern comics are trying to establish it's as a consistent Canon character trait

This is not to bash that person just wanted to say I agree with you and appreciate the points you were making

I appreciate you reaching out and saying this. As someone who is Hoh it’s sort of wild to have fellow comic fans not only advocate but argue for my sort of disability to just essentially be erased again from a character because they don’t think it’s a common enough trait. Which it would have been more common and probably portrayed more accurately if more people weren’t so okay with not seeing it. If less folks thought like the person arguing against Clint being portrayed as deaf maybe we would have seen more of it sooner. Maybe it wouldn’t have had to be re-established. I just don’t want Clint to lose this aspect of his character again. So many of us value seeing it in the comics and shows. It’s really important.

Whatever it be it’s certainly not obscure. My Life As A Weapon is one of the most popular comics out there. It was released over a decade ago and since then he has been canonically deaf. Many people now a days start their comic journey with that comic specifically. So to see it claimed as obscure and unknown felt really silly to me.

I mean… It’s referenced even in comics that aren’t his. I know folks who don’t even read comics but participate in fandom culture (ie art and writing) that know he is deaf. It takes like five seconds in the Hawkeye tag on tumblr to know. Maybe a minute on Twitter or TikTok to put it together.

I don’t think that person arguing with me really was as involved with comics as they might have been implying they were because if they were they would know it’s not an unknown super secret fact that only the most hard Hawkeye fans would know. It’s ultimately why I stopped trying to prove this aspect to them. They just wanted to be right they dont actually care about the character or advocating for disabled representation.

Anyways enough of my rant…. I’m glad that there are fans like yourself though that agree and want to continue to see it represented. So thank you anon you also seem super cool 🫶

Sorry I got wordsy about this it just matters to me a lot okay I’m done LMFAOO

[ikeepaglockinmycock]

hey gang just thought u should know blade has a history of being a pred and the fact they’re in a server with a bunch of minors is super weird now i think about it. whoever sent anon to menacing-manicotti would’ve ate it u guys sent it to the right person lol. can i get some context as to what actually happened? all ik is what blade said, which isn’t credible given their history of lying lol, i know a couple other ppl involved are trolls and atp i think blade is too given their history, they have sexualised an eight year old, been racist and a BUNCH of other shit. i have a post about them on my blog if youre interested, if not that’s okay, I just wanted you to know they have absolutely NO ground to stand on trying to cancel you after everything they’ve done, they have a bunch of call out posts on them and thomas sanders himself has condemned their actions and addressed them, i just wanted you to know they have a history of this kinda shit and their friend group are just ppl who like arguing given the amount of times they’ve posted about blade themselves, wishing u guys the best

WHAT THE HELL

Also i barely know the maicotta nga or whtever i liek jst figured out abt this drama cuz one of my moots was invovled in it lol so ik next to NOTHING but ik they sent death threats to my moot lol.i have an ss to lol. They got on my moots ass for them saying they HATE kids and other people said they were making people uncomfy with their little alters. I dont wanna be involved in this drama but thats all ik so far.

This is the threat they sent to my moot(shotgunner) btw

If yhu need me to explain things better/have further questions yhu can dm me on here or any disc (my disc is bridevamp. ) o

[velvetvexations]

Really love how every time I argue with people on here about how actually trans men do not generally have it meaningfully better than trans women, people avoid actually explaining their points or providing sources and start calling me a little boy. Very fun. Love that. It's so fun to be insulted for asking asking people to explain their point

No one can actually explain that.

rhea ripley is so hot. and for what

for me to be all Weird Trans Woman about her

Honestly as an non binary person, I feel more and more pushed out of the community with the serious adherence to the binary. "if you Id as this you MUST be this thing, you're you're a liar and a faker and you're hurting other trans people" that, and the denial of trans men's oppression. It's just cruel and bitter, and seeing other trans people go down this path is pretty disheartening

it's so depressing

Well, you see, it's not like saying they're transitioning from black to white, because OBVIOUSLY, just like race, your soulgender is immediately apparent to everyone as soon as you plop out the womb

lmao so true

(also I've heard soulgender is a Black thing and it should be spelled with like, a space or a hyphen? so I'm probably gonna do that from now on)

"Trans men are the White People of the trans community" Oh okay so yeah this is just "Ace people are the White People of the Queer Community" all over again huh Begging other whities to stop comparing race and gender like this, makes you look stupid as fuck

pls

Fascinated to know if the "All trans women are nonbinary" crowd also believe all trans men are nonbinary

you'd think so the way they insist trans men cling to being AFAB lmao

Went to check /-/'s blog and she's reblogging pro Chat-GPT and anti-copyright posts now

I'm tapping the sign.

as a nonbinary thing i feel like so much tma/tme shit just completely fucking forgets us like im not „occasionally mistaken as a trans woman” its a fucking coin flip!!!!!!!! my „AGAB” doesbt matter 2 ppl outside the the internet!!!!! all that matters is no matter what i wear no one wants me i their bathroom!!!!!

people don't even just hate you for when they mistake you for a trans woman anon they hate non-binary people AFAB too

i kinda feel like the discourse is becoming more mainstream now. im seeing a lot of trans bloggers who dont post much about trans issues making posts about it (usually along the lines of "can we be normal about trans guys please" which is nice)

good maybe the backlash will finally kick in

Idk if this is me generalizing but I’ve started noticing that headcanons of canonically male characters as trans women that get traction are usually skinny and have trauma or coded with anxiety or depression. Like idk if that means literally anything but just a weird observation I had

a lotta people on here literally define being a woman as when bad things happen to you lmao

I was looking at the Patricia Taxxon stuff (funny enough, did actually see you @ ed in deleted replies) and I saw the sentence “However, being discriminated on the basis of being perceived as a manly woman is just an adverse effect of transmisogyny directed towards trans men.” Which. Hey now. What about butch women. Like how does that not uniquely apply to cis butch lesbians, even if we ignore trans men entirely.

MAINSTREAM SOCIETY LOVES TOMBOYS

Man. It really sucks when a popular-ish figure you look up to turns out to be transandrophobic. Should have seen it coming ig. She was intersexist too, and those often go hand in hand.

well I mean it sounds like you shouldn't have looked up to her already lmao

IIRC from old drama, Patricia Taxxon also thinks toxic masculinity isn't a real thing that can harm men because it's just splash damage from misogyny and they should get over it, lol, so I'm not surprised if she's turned out to be weird about trans men

lmao literally just that radfem-libfem feminism-is-for-women comic huh

Tragic: local man forced to actually read Serano's writing for the theory he's trying to make even though the way she talks about transmasculinity and female gender nonconformity gives him a headache

F

[crystallizsch]

in the current event, grim says something like wow it must be nice to be going on vacation. im just gonna be at ramshackle all day. and it got me thinking because!!! yuu and grim really are in it together. he says he doesn’t remember having a family in book 4, so they really are all the other has. a lot of people, when talking about yuu’s problems, forget about grim a lot, i think. of course he gets yuu into trouble and isn’t very helpful, but he’s literally like. a kitten. he fights for? yuu and i just. think they are neat !

YESSS ANON

NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT I’M ACTUALLY OBSESSED WITH HOW THE STITCH EVENT SHOW THE “OHANA” FAMILY THEMES ESPECIALLY WITH YUU AND GRIM (and how it just made it more blatant in the ending) (thanks lilia for spelling it out hfjdjjd)

(source)

literally the recent event has grim all jealous of stitch and even overprotective of yuu (that one scene of grim jumping into water to try and save you??? that got me so much)

anyways you’ve opened a whole can of worms in my brain ougheghdhegr

i dont talk about yuu and grim often but they are actually one of my favorite dynamics in the game

imagine being transported into an unfamiliar world and the only thing that is remotely in the same situation as you is some kind of talking magical cat that doesn’t even respect you in the slightest, looking down on you.

also what are even the conventions in this place? are you even going to be okay? sure you’re being kept in this… ramshackle building but what’s guaranteeing your safety? “accidents” can happen.

then this talking cat is back and suddenly you both are begrudgingly a package deal. you’re essentially just using each other. yuu needs grim bc they’re magicless and grim needs this human to attend this school.

but (since they really have no choice anyway) they spend all this time together that they eventually become THE package deal.

like at that point who is grim without yuu and who is yuu without grim?

it’s also interesting bc grim seems to have these childish tendencies on top of acting like… a cat.

so of course he becomes so attached and dependent to them. who else has given this feline direbeast a home after all? why it’s yuu, of course. especially when he doesn’t remember anything else.

and to compensate, grim is the one to protect yuu. in his mind he’s the leader, he’s the protector. it’s a failure on his part as the great mage grim if he lets anything bad happen to his hench human.

and for yuu’s part, this feline beast is the one who’s always there with them funnily enough (there’s also ace and deuce but they’re not the focus here right now)

so similarly yuu cares about grim as much (at least that’s how i choose to interpret it bc you could argue yuu only “cares” bc if anything happens to grim, they’re kinda fucked)

grim is definitely more than this talking sidekick companion and i will go to my grave believing that he’s the biggest part of yuu’s character and vice versa.

i also believe that canon yuu has a more integral part in the story beyond being an isekai protagonist and the one seeing disney movie visions + mickey. im just waiting on when we find out the real reasons yuu and grim are together.

hdhhfdhdhgd anyways you’re right i think yuu and grim are just neat. i am putting them in a jar and shaking them affectionately.

[crepesuzette2023]

I dont think I've ever heard the take that girl seems to be about Paul, I mean, it makes sense absolutely, but can you expand some more?

Gladly, Anon.

Rob Sheffield (Dreaming the Beatles) said he thinks Girl is about Paul in this episode of @anotherkindofmindpod. The episode is actually an in-depth discussion of In My Life, but Girl came up a number of times, since it's also on Rubber Soul.

I thought Sheffield's statement was interesting, and not in a silly “John saw Paul as a girl” kind of way.

Summarizing mercilessly, and taking a few steps back before returning to Girl:

RS argues that Rubber Soul marks a moment when the Beatles’ songwriting moved from a commercial/craft perspective towards a more open/confessional/personal tone, In My Life being an example of this, with John examining his feelings for all his friends and lovers, and singling out a new kind of love that transcends the loves he’s known before. According to RS and the hosts, In My Life is not only addressed to Paul (I personally feel it could also be about Julian, or about both; as someone who writes, I really feel the “a piece of art is never about just one thing” argument)— it also, by summoning a group of dear people and openly expressing his feelings for them, emulates Paul, who, in John’s eyes, is the more extrovert and socially comfortable of the two. The song is a two-fold tribute.

Girl, still according to RS, forms a matched pair with In My Life, because it, too, concerns complex and intimate emotions; in this case being unsettled by a complex, alluring and confusing person (Paul/the girl). It's a non-generic, specific, highly personal song you wouldn't have found on earlier albums. (You Won’t See Me is Paul’s reply to John.)

Whether you agree with these interpretations or not (by the way, instead of trusting my summary, it’s probably a better idea to listen to RS and the hosts in their own words), I’m happy to see the acknowledgment of the depth of John and Paul's relationship.

RS also makes a beautiful point about If I Fell (which, as we know, John saw as a continuation of In My Life): That John and Paul, as always, tell the truth about each other by the way they sing together.

(Cue the If I Fell/marriage vows quote from Gould’s Beatles bio).

Ian Leslie (no introduction needed) was more direct in his “Hidden Gems” episode on @onesweetdreampodcast. He stated he believes that If I Fell was written for Paul, commemorating their Paris ‘honeymoon’.

And look—people are free to go as far as they want in how they interpret all this, but I personally feel it liberates and elevates the discussion of their songwriting and relationships to include the romantic love or friendship or X or [redacted] or 'tender and tempestuous' but ‘not sexual as far as we know’ relationship between John and Paul as one of its many possible inspirations.

It just feels silly to me to ignore it or act all offended at the mere suggestion.

And when RS writes in Dreaming the Beatles “For John, Paul was the boy who came to stay; for Paul, John was the song he couldn’t make better,” it just feels right.

My two cents.

P.S. When I'm inclined to accept that Girl is about Paul, I immediately want to ask follow-up questions. Because this is a song about a fraught relationship, right? In what sense did John try to leave Paul? In what sense did Paul promise him the earth and cry? I know it doesn't have to be literally true, but some extrapolation, please? This didn't happen in the episode—obviously, since its focus was another song, In My Life. PPS: I wrote this in a bit of a hurry so feel free to get back to me for clarifications, etc.

[themetalhiro]

you thinking i said she hates him when i clearly used "dislike" because it's nowhere near hate is insane. marcille is nearly always uncomfortable around laios because his personality is incredibly off-putting to her. she never goes out of her way to interact with him more than necessary. she very obviously tolerates him and is generally fine with him but has no desire to be actual friends with him. dont put words in my mouth. the desire people have to make straight couples out of a series where the most important relationship to the story is a fairly explicitly lesbian pairing is absolutely unreal

( Anons last message for context )

You sound very silly right now anon, I just have to say it. Do you also think chilchuck is there for his paycheck only?

You can feel extremely strongly that something is suggested, but if it’s not canon, it simply isn’t canon. I could argue that marcilles succubus (the things that shapeshift into what the victim finds most appealing) was a male prince. THAT’S canon. Do I think because of that, marcilles staunchly straight? No. That would be extremely stupid.

You may interpret the relationships in the series however you see fit, that’s your right. That’s what I’m doing. None of them are more important than others.

I AM noticing though while you’re taking what you read between the lines as absolutely unarguable, you’re missing the in-your-face fact that Marcille, besides his eccentricities that exasperate her, genuinely respects Laois as a leader and a person. She enjoys his friendship and cares for him deeply. It’s displayed in every chapter of the damn comic.

You have tunnel vision for your own ship. That’s fine, but keep me out of it! Maybe try fanfic if that’s all you give a shit about? If it helps you sleep at night, I think farcille is cute and has plenty of merit too.

[cosmossystem]

on the topic of "sysmeds* have gotten louder recently" i just want to ramble and give my optimist perspective on it really because i dont think its the full story. (*and if you have a problem with me using that term, stick around and youll see why i use it.)

for context i formed as a fictive alter in about mid to late 2016. we were going through a lot of rapid splits and shutdowns at this time. many of the people who split would get forcibly dormant just days later, including me, and im lucky that i got out of it because i know a lot of those alters back then didnt. normally i wouldnt call all of us alters, but this was a very trauma-heavy time and we were going through heavily fragmented periods with dissociation and amnesia. we couldnt accept that we were plural.

anyway, point is that we were in plural spaces around then, and i took over as the host in december of that year as i broke up with my shitty in-system persecutor boyfriend (thats a story for a different day.)

so its 2017 and im 12, turning 13 soon, both inner and outer. we are a rapidly growing system of 13, no 20, no 41-- and then soon its back down to about 30, where it will stay for the next 8 years. but in the mean time, me and my new partner, jam, are learning to pilot a flesh-mech on the fly and letting ourselves be cringy tweenagers. we take over the tumblr blogs (most of which are anti-cgl blogs, which is very ironic considering some of our members now do that) and we start journalling. more importantly, in late 2017 i make my own blog and i start chatting. im basically the only person fronting about 70% of the time and im a huge yapper so it starts to take off.

i post art. i wont say what specifically i do or what fandom its for but the gist is that i run a requests blog. (im sure, if you were in a very specific sect of fandom around then, you could probably guess who i am and what blog i ran, but i doubt that will happen here. if it does, keep it to yourself.)

and i get really popular. im talkin hundreds, at one point thousands of followers. i wake up every day to a dozen asks and i fulfill them and i talk about my day with the people in my askbox. i tell them about my disability, about my boyfriends (later, husbands), and i tell them about my plurality. sometimes i get into the weeds of discourse, but i try not to. mind you, im about 13 or 14 and im the staunchest pro-queer, pro-endo, pro-tucute tween you would have ever met. still not quite all there on the pro-kink or pro-ship fronts, but that didnt cause me any issues at that point, and i wouldnt figure it out for another two or so years. anyway, people are usually nice to me and i am nice, if not a bit impassioned, back.

most of the people i speak to on this blog are singlets. but being that this particular fandom is mostly made of younger people like me (at this point anyway) many of them are curious about plurality or plural themselves. funny enough, while i remember discussing a lot of my plurality and explaining what it meant, i dont recall a whole lot of people arguing over it. no one ever sent me anon hate saying that i didnt exist and that didosddsdosod was the only way to be plural. i DO recall getting dogpiled on numerous occasions because this was during the height of ace discourse, mogai drama, and right at the rise of the whole "bi-lesbians-dont-exist" thing, so most of my controversy covered those.

but on several occasions i explained to singlets what a system was, and what it meant that i was "married" to my headmates, and i met so many people who said they were also plural, and i even helped a few realize they were plural. i truly look at that with a sense of pride and joy because how many people get to say they helped someone realize an important aspect of themself/ves? how many people are out there living their life as single when theyre actually more than one? how many didnt know that word existed until a stranger happily explained it to them, before realizing that word applied to them? its one thing to be gay and know youre gay, its another to go your entire life without realizing that being gay is an option until one day it dawns on you and the next youre out and proud. being plural is like that. its world-altering. most dont realize its an option until theyre told.

its not necessarily that system spaces didnt have their problems. from singlets, there was more curiosity. system spaces were still very much divided, but for the most part sysmeds stuck to their corner and mostly only argued when argued with. that word, mind you, did not exist at the time, we just called em "anti endos". i dont remember when or how that term was coined, but theres a good reason we call them that now, and its because they would say the same shit to me that transmeds would. regardless, i dont doubt that there were probably issues of them going out of their way to harass people, but i cant recall any and it never happened to us, so make of that what you will.

in those times, i experienced more transphobia, homophobia, and aphobia than i did anything else. when i did see sysmeds, it was in their own little bubble. i think the broader world didnt care so much about plurality and didnt know that sysmedicalism was a thing that could happen until maybe a couple of years ago now, and back then, it was treated purely with curiosity and intrigue instead of hate.

but "system spaces" have always had an anti-endo side, and i know this because i was one.

i havent said as much up until now, but in those early days of journaling, it was maybe for a year or so that we were anti-endo. couldnt tell you what changed really, but i think it was just a growing exhaustion of hearing about how terrible and awful and cruel and disgusting those evil, evil endos were. a lot of sysmeds like to proclaim their 'one true real genuine method' of being plural is the only one, and since the start we were never going to fit into that mold-- we were and are fictive heavy, in-system relationships, able to change forms in headspace, no dissociative amnesia, very little memory loss and practically no multi-consciousness, the works. but it was there and it wasnt very pretty. i am grateful i didnt internalize too much of it, didnt spread it very much, and we got out when we did because it was toxic enough back then and its worse now.

i should say that i dont think necessarily there is a rise in sysmedicalism similar to, say, the trend of label policing (a la bi lesbians) or ace discourse at its peak. while that does happen with minority labels when theyre suddenly thrust into the spotlight of the week, plurality has not had that moment yet (thank god, knock on wood it never does) and so far the only way this has happened is with a few isolated incidents that i know of, maybe im wrong. but i think its moreso that the plural community has grown to crazy heights with the rise of more people discovering it and understanding themselves, and naturally there would be a proportional rise in sysmedicalism too. the only main difference maybe is now that we have bigger platforms like tiktok and twitter, and we have prominent plural resources like pluralkit and simply plural, and with the rise in political unrest-- all of those things contribute to this rise in sysmedicalism. they have more visibility and a loud voice despite being the minority, and so they get their fifteen seconds of fame.

i guess i get it. theyre angry. theyre upset that the world is injust. they think theyre allowed-- encouraged, even, or that its their right-- to come into a community that has been building itself for the past several decades on inclusion and resource-sharing and cause a commotion. they have a disorder, they have trauma, they DESERVE to be listened to and they dont want to see their very debilitating disorder being mocked like this, or whatever it is they say. unfortunately they are the terfs of this community, and i can say that because ive been dealing with those too for the past decade also.

what im trying to get across is this: plurals have existed forever. this community has existed for decades at this point, maybe centuries. with every progressive movement there will be a counter-movement, and this one is no exception, they just happen to be particularly loud right now. as we grow in numbers, so does our visibility, and so does theirs. the plural community is fine. it continue to be fine. there is nothing happening right now to us that hasnt already happened a billion times before, and there is no sysmedicalist piece of shit on this planet that can destroy us. theyve been trying for as long as weve existed and they never succeed. keep going, keep telling people about us, keep existing and keep doing your best. be louder than them.

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[kaddyssammlung]

Im the stc lore anon. Im very aware of the old interviews. In fact thats exactly part of why i get so frustrated with the fan interpretations of lore. Because its one of the things in my view that debunks the romance about sleep theories. Its just very frustrating feeling so strongly about my theory the fan lore is not canon while seemingly most of the fandom assumes the fan lore is absolutely 100 percent canon and just needs some more puzzle pieces to unluck the True Story. I used to believe the fanmade lore, but i no longer can do so especially when ive seen various bits of concerning behavior in the fandom where i think people take it wayyy too far. I think the only "canon" interpretation of the lyrics is the real person behind the masks life story, otherwise theres no "canon" and we are supposed to do whatever we want. But i think things have just gotten wayyy out of control with the its about a romance with sleep theory. What makes me actually hate it is how much people insist the people on stage are "characters" (i regularly see disclaimers saying "dont worry im just talking about the characters not the real people" when i really dont think they are "characters" in the way people think... this is not an anti fanfic/shipping/headcanon about real people stance btw i dont care about that as long as you dont go too far, i just dont like the insistence theyre "characters" because that feels so dehumanizing) and how rude people are if you dont agree with the fanlore (the vitriol aimed at alternate interpretations is really disgusting, especially the "why are sexualizing the lyrics, youre a bad person" crowds vitriol and insistence theyre the Good Fans while if you dont agree you deserve awful things). Otherwise, i just get *personally* annoyed with how often i come across the "its totally canon that its about sleep theories" when i dont want to *personally* hear those theories at all. I hope im making sense, and maybe im being an asshole in how im expressing my views idk. I just really feel like an outsider in this fandom and get so happy when i come across people who actually agree with me because it makes me feel less alone and like im not stupid or whatever. Just have fun, let the music mean something special to you, and remember the band (and their fans for that matter, going back to the vitriol thing) are human beings, thats what ultimately matters. I just think the lore as the fans see it has gotten into concerning territory. Wont leave any more anons about this for now because i dont want to drag this out more, i just saw your replies/post and wanted to respond in hopes what im trying to say will finally come out right (im not always the best with words, im very blunt, im very opinionated, etc)

Good Morning or Guten Morgen or Happy Timezone

I get your point and I don't think that you're an asshole.

I think you are struggling with something that many struggle and the fans that you call out also struggle with that: it's acceptance. Or accepting what is; in that case it's fan's who act a certain way or have different opinions or see things in a different way.

Acceptance is a mastery. It's something that is very hard to achieve.

Your situation reminds me of something that I could not accept for a long time in that fandom. So I'm going to talk about that.

This will probably be a long post so I'm hiding this and also mental health topics will come up.

I always had this assumption that everyone could see what I see when I look at Vessel. I'm talking concerts photos and “peeled Vessel” and the things that get revealed when the paint comes down. To me his scars are one of the few things that I can observe and so can everyone else, right?! There are so many even the ones from a certain attempt on both his right and his left forearm.

Well...right?! They are right in your face....

No! They are right in my face. I got into weird arguments about this topic. Which is a weird thing to argue about because this topic is a very painful one and also a strange one. There is a giant stigma around it. There are even “mental health professionals” on YouTube who refuse to talk about that topic and pretend that it does not exist because YouTube does not like these topics. It's a weird topic.

But it was exactly that what got me into the lyrics so much. I wanted to figure out the story behind what I could see.

All I found was myself and the parts of me that I denied that even existed. I stopped searching for the story and started to face myself instead.

I found a great new spiritual teacher because of that. She teaches acceptance and also sacred neutrality.

It's been almost a year now with her teachings and me finally accepting that not everyone can see what I see when I look at Vessel.

There will always be humans out there who call all of this an assumption. To them he did not self-harm and does not have scars from a certain attempt. To them that's an assumption while for me it's a fact.

Those fans are not worse then me and I'm not better then them. I can accept that they just have a different view on everything.

It's the same with lore interpretations or the way that some treat them in a (your words) dehumanizing way.

I can accept all that I just don't read it or interact with them. I let them have their view on things and I have my weird view on things.

I argued with fans that said things like: I don't even like their music or listen to their music but....

They are a thing, too btw.

When it comes to Sleep btw. To me it's an entity. They are very real btw. I learned how to deal with them, too. But I can totally understand that many humans out there just don't get topics like entities or idk...I mean I saw fairy-like beings right in front of me one day. 99% of humans would probably just say that I just made this up. I can understand that or rather I learned how to accept that.

When I first heard about Sleep I thought about that day and the fairies. I just thought...maybe that guy is a bit weird like me?!

We all had different experiences that shaped us. And also some fans really are just 14.

One of the reasons why I left the big Discord for example was because they allow all ages. I had an argument with a nine year old! That's when my alarm bells came online and I thought to myself: no...not okay! Some fans act a certain way because they are actual kids.

Like I said....I found a place within me to accept all that.

But it took a lot of facing myself to find that acceptance. And it's a process that is on-going.

Maybe this helps you...maybe not....maybe it clarifies something...maybe not.

I'm learning everything from her btw. It's energy work....energy work means you work with your soul, your higher self, higher dimensional beings....all theses things.

One thing that I forgot....accepting something and agreeing with it is not the same thing. I can totally disagree but still accept that something.

[messrsrarchives]

Its not that i dont agree because i do but theres bigger conversations to have

I think theres bigger things in the world and your world than the reboot and those are conversations you could be having ie Gaza?

hi anon !!

i am SO glad this has started a conversation !! so fucking glad !! i've seen a lot of people discussing it on tiktok now (a lot of my mutuals too so ily). i'm glad we're talking about it now because as i said in another post here on tumblr (the one where i had 47 trans people reach out to me and tell me about the transphobia they've faced in the fandom) this is bigger than a reboot.

and i do have bigger worries in my world, you're so right. my world is so messy in so many ways.

which is why i discussed how to make This world, the marauders fandom, feel safer and more inclusive. because i don't want to be arguing with my hormone clinic about the prices being raised, as i do every two months when they're raised to try and steer me off of it, and then come home and "relax" in fandom to see people hyping up something that profits jkr. i think that's valid.

i think this is a valid discussion for this space, right? i think the "what about xyz" view of conversations is actually more harmful?? we absolutely can discuss more than one thing at a time but i do also think that the hyping up of a reboot of the franchise on which our fandom is built upon but claims to be entirely against the franchise creator? i think that's a very big discussion that absolutely does need to be had in a queer-based fandom that a lot of trans people engage in.

and because, as stated, we can discuss more than one thing at a time:

here is the link tree that is accessible via my tiktok (and has been for months). here you can find gofundmes for palestinian families that have reached out to me for support, charities for palestine, information on gaza, and resources for congo, sudan, and trans rights (also putting together a lebanon section <3)

here is a link to my "🇵🇸river to the sea🇵🇸" playlist on tiktok . the videos that i have made for palestine are all in there, and they all have resources in the comment sections (such as exchange rates, families to follow and support, and people within the fandom that are offering buddy systems for donations)

here is the link to my public favourites folder full of videos to boost, families to support, informative videos, ways to indirectly support etc.

and if you go to my tiktok here and check the third pinned video, that is for Haneen and her family who still need as much support as we can offer <3 (gofundme here: please be wary of exchange rates !! NOK is a very weak currency, hence why the amount of donations is so high but funding isn't)

i will continue to discuss what i believe strongly in, regardless of how many conversations that takes. there is no limit on support, and there is no end to change, and it is possible to discuss the things that harm us personally, and those that harm others at the same time.

what a silly thing to say i fear

[astrababyy]

Okay okay, based from your Summer Court vs Feysand analysis that make a lot of sense why Hewn City leader and Illyrian IGNORE Rhys. BESTIE RHY, THEY IGNORE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE DUMB, DANGEROUS AND A WANTED INTERPOL WAR CRIMINAL.

they dont ignore you BECAUSE YOU ARE HALF HIGH FAE HALF ILLYRIAN like you say to Feyreeeee. Rhys is this friends that are cut off from group and tell everyone the group cant accept him.because he is a bastard and fatherless. No bestie, your personality is what get you cut off from your group.

hi, anon! i love this ask 'cause i laughed so hard reading it 😆

this might be an unpopular agreement, but i really don't think many of the high lords would've cared that rhys is half illyrian! helion legit flirts with cassian and azriel every time they're in the room lmao. and thesan's lover is a faerie so... why would they care?? the vast majority of tamlin's court is made up of faeries, and he clearly didn't care when that faerie was brought in during the first book. tarquin is... well, need i say anything? this man's entire character revolves around how he doesn't give af about high fae v. faeries. beron is probably the ONLY one who'd actually give af that rhys is half illyrian. i think you could maybe argue that tamlin, in his current characterization, would be prejudiced against rhys bc of it, but they also used to be friends so...

and i don't think kallias cares since he used to be close allies with the night court. like, rhys pulled that shit out of his ass so feyre doesn't really everyone hates him because he's just a fucking asshole lmao.

like, rhys is just trying to play the victim, but he made his own choices and now he lives with the consequences. instead of taking responsibility, he's just gaslighting himself and everyone around him into thinking he's just an uwu victim of the high lords' prejudice.

[laithraihan]

Laith ur post on proship/anti kinda reminded me of this post Like the bit about how proshippers are more bold; it reminded me of that anon's experience

I take anon stories with a grain of salt however I have to admit that Ive seen this sort of behavior very often with my own eyes including messages Ive received years ago, so it wouldnt sound very farfetched to say that it actually happened.

What Ive seen from a lot of self identified proshippers is that they flex about the controversial things they enjoy, as if liking that makes them superior to everyone else who finds it gross. I dont know how to explain it but theres this childish bully behavior from adults where if they see an "anti" disagreeing with them, they'll unashamedly show them triggering content to "own the sensitive antis" or some stupid shit like that (and yknow it's totally fine to show this to random people unprompted because nothing is real) Kinda like how edgy teenagers purposefully make others uncomfortable by spamming edgy shit and then laugh at how "sensitive" people are. Actually I'd say it's practically the same thing.

Like yeah Ive seen things go too far on both sides and everyone always talks about how antis harass random people but it would be a completely lie if I said that proshippers have never made vile threats and are always the victims. Im not really a fan of telling others what to do or how to think, but like. I dont think someone hating noncon or whatever warrants any response like this. Generally speaking dark elements in fiction is not for everyone and it's quite literally about covering triggering topics, and most people do not like talking about things like this especially in detail.

People can argue that they should fuck off from proship spaces if theyre uncomfortable (even then I do not think it's justified to respond with graphic threats) however they also do this with basically anyone who expresses a negative opinion on their interests and they treat it as a personal attack, or they will think it's just another anti trying to be morally superior to them when youre allowed to just Not like something. I say this because it happens to me who has expressed that I dislike looking at "problematic" content without saying a single thing about my views on censorship or morality or whatever

[pillarsalt]

its weird being in feminist spaces online bc on the one hand, we all understand that women have womens shelters because they actually worked towards gathering resources and opening these physical spaces. like they did actual work and didnt just wax poetic about the necessity. but then you have discourse about womens clothes and its like. you guys know there ARE brands out there creating functional clothing for the female form, right? and they end up shutting down due to lack of support? because we arent putting any action behind our words? and are just wishing good womens clothing into existence? like there are no mens shleters bc men didnt make shelters. there are no good female clothing brands because we 1) dont make them and if we do, 2) they dont get enough patronage to stay afloat. so yea guys, keep making tumblr posts about the lack of functional female clothing instead of seeking out and supporting those businesses. ill keep wearing my dads hand-me-downs because im economically and ecologically based.

Ooh anon we're playing with fire here... Alright everybody, feelings caps off and critical thinking caps on. This is in reference to a post I made a few nights ago about how I don't quite believe how many women claim they are incapable of wearing men's section clothes, a post which was itself in reference to another post that made the rounds on tumblr earlier this year. I wrote it after having had six beers and I'll be the first to admit, it was pretty inflammatory and worded in a way that lead a few people to reply defensively and angrily, so I turned off RBs and deleted it when I woke up the next day as damage control. The general gist of my post was that there are shitloads of options in the men's section that are far comfier with better quality materials than women's section clothes, that oversized clothes are easily adjusted for functionality ie. rolling up cuffs and wearing a belt, and that I think a lot of the women claiming they couldn't possibly wear men's section clothing are maybe just unwilling to "look bad," but again I wrote it in a way that obviously would not inspire good faith interaction with those whose choices I criticized. I'd like to take the opportunity to try again with this ask.

First of all, I also had a couple people say that they've had to wear the men's uniform at their job and it was ill-fitting and sucked. Of course I'm not arguing that women should not be accounted for in creating work equipment and PPE omfg, that's not what I'm talking about at all! That's a matter of safety and equality in employment, completely not what I'm saying. And I'm also not saying that women SHOULDN'T have clothes that are comfortable, functional, and properly fitting that are made with them in mind. We should be demanding this! What I am saying is that... we don't have that right now. Anon points out that there are businesses that have tried to do this and couldn't find enough patronage to stay afloat. Of course I want these clothing manufacturers to succeed, it would be the best case scenario, but in the mean time, we have two options: uncomfortable, flimsy, revealing, shit-ass-material that won't keep you warm women's clothes; and men's clothes that are possibly ill-fitting.

From the replies I did get, sounds like the biggest problem is with the hips to waist ratio, in men's pants the waist is too big when the hips fit. Yes, I get it! But I was also surprised to learn how many women are completely opposed to wearing belts?? I always thought belts were a wardrobe staple for most everyone, my Mom always wears one, I've been wearing one when necessary since middle school age. But happily for the non-belt-wearers, I've discovered that many men's pants actually have drawstrings, sometimes they're inside behind the buttons and zipper, so you can make them as tight or loose as you like. I have four pairs of pants like this, I wear them to work where I walk around and bring heavy things up and down stairs all day, they are sooo comfyyy.

The other thing is all my pants are from the men's now, and I have to tell you: sizing discrepancy is popularly framed solely as a women's clothing issue, but it's not really. Last week I bought two pairs of men's jeans from the thrift store, both size 34, without trying them on. One pair fits quite tightly around my thighs to the point that I will probably only wear them to events and not all day at work, while the other is the perfect size and so comfy I could sleep in them (don't worry, I won't.) It's trial and error all around when it comes to finding clothes that fit properly. There's not One Shape of men's pants. The changing room is your friend! Hang out in thrift stores long enough and you will absolutely find items that fit you wonderfully and feel comfortable.

So then we come to my main point: There are a lot of women who claim that men's clothes are just too big for them to wear and therefore they must resort to women's section clothes which supposedly fit them so much better... *FROM MY POINT OF VIEW* it seems a sort of convenient excuse to look the way a patriarchal society wants you to, in the same way that "sensory issues around body hair" is now a common stated reason to continue shaving and participating in sexist beauty culture without having to examine why you feel compelled to do so. I think when some women say they're unable to wear men's clothes, it's because they can't wear men's clothes and look as conventionally "good" as they do in women's clothes. And it's true, men's clothes are gonna be a bit looser and a bit more formless, but men aren't expected to be shrink-wrapped into their outfit like women are anyway. I understand the pressure to "look good," often women are treated poorly when they don't, but it's in your best interest and in the best interest of other women to resist that sexist pressure, or at least question it honestly.

Do I think you're a bad person for choosing to wear exclusively women's section clothes, absolutely not. I don't think women who shave or wear makeup or heels are bad people either. But I do think it's worth examining why you really feel like you couldn't branch out from the women's section.

Men's pants have a baggier crotch and ass area, but women's pants are often so tightly compact in the crotch that they can cause gynaecological problems. Men's shirt sleeves are quite roomy and may need rolling up, but many women's t-shirts have tiny sleeves that pinch your arms and draw your attention to the fact that your arm fat is being compressed. Men's pants can be quite long for a short woman, but cuffing them is simple: like anon said you can easily hem them, and if you don't sew like me, you can literally just cut them shorter and roll up the cuffs twice and KABOOM they become as short as you like. I want to reiterate that I do think women deserve to have clothes that are made with their comfort in mind, and I hope we do someday soon. But with the options we do have, there is a clear winner in terms of functionality, dignity, and quality. Men's clothes are made to be worn, women's clothes are made to adorn, decorate, be looked at.

Last point, when I hear someone say they're just too short or fat for men's section clothes... I can't believe them because I have seen A LOT of short and fat women wearing men's section clothes and doing just fine. You all have never met a short and/or fat butch lesbian? Ever? They look damn good in men's section clothing. I have a coworker who is 4'11" and shops 50/50 mens and womens clothes including pants. Like... I'm seeing short women wear mens clothes with slight alterations and zero problems. I really believe you can do it too. I believe!!!

In the end, I'm just a random tumblr blogger typing on my random tumblr blog, and you the reader have no obligation to take anything I say with more than a grain of salt. Try not to take this post personally, I'm not out to attack you. If your reasoning is simply "I don't want to," I can respect that and we don't have to agree. I think we can all agree the clothing situation for women generally sucks. If anyone including this Anon has recommendations for companies who make clothing that is legitimately created for women with women's bodies in mind, please let me know and I'll boost! Perhaps we can make a difference with our wallets.

[self-loving-vampire]

the makeup thing is the result of people arguing that actually its "femininity" that is oppressed under patriarchy and not like being A Woman in general (igss bc what that even means is an uncomfortably grey subject for people regardless of where they fall, even tho its frequently the case that taxonomies dont describe something that cant be said to have an actual succinct definition or perhaps even exist in the first place but has a colloquially understood "you know it when you see it" type definition, not that thats great for subjects that arent immediately recognizable as that taxonomical category by most people tho, but i digress lol. the short version: people like easy answers, and people can actually point to things that are very concretely considered feminine, while also citing the reality that femininity in men or people who are understood at the time to be men is policed often violently to say that this hatred of femininity is the motivation for womens oppression even though like obviously women are constantly incentivized to be more feminine because thats what they're "supposed" to do which is different from what men are "supposed" to do. wow that wasnt shorter at all! sorry)

i think the thing the previous anon is tapping into is a pre-jezebellian (as in the website jezebel lmao) form of this prejudicial reading of girls who are not gender conforming-- before we had the feminist thinkpiece industry, gender nonconformity was still understood to be bad and require policing, but in what sense was not informed by an allegedly feminist set of beliefs. in an era after the brand of feminism™️ that put emphasis on the idea that femininity is what is derided under patriarchy as opposed to its enforcement being an aspect of the oppression of women themselves, along with the popularization of "feminist" and "progressive" as desirable identities for women to have amongst themselves and "open homophobe" became somewhat passé while STILL having unexamined biases against gender nonconforming women (especially as that feminist framework essentially worked to argue that masculinity is rewarded in all arenas of gender by arguing that femininity is derided in all arenas of gender) the notion that not performing femininity was now understood solely as a form of internalized misogyny and not simply as another way of being

i think that a lot of the motivation for this gender policing still comes from the same place, which is this kneejerk reaction to "having your lifestyle challenged" by the existence of women who do not put two hours of work into their hair and makeup and outfits where they feel as though, by not doing those things, the women who do not perform femininity to their standard (because a lot of the time, these women are not even masculine at all, they just like dont wear makeup lol) those women are trying to shame and embarrass them or act like they are "better" than the women who do. basically any time a female celebrity stops wearing makeup for whatever reason, the comments are inundated by women saying things like "omg youre special for not wearing makeup 😒" even though quite obviously they are in a world where a significant proportion of the population is compelled to wear makeup to such a degree that it becomes a part of their personality that they are extremely defensive about lmao. and for the record im not even anti-wearing makeup, i just think its goofy as hell to act like any woman is rewarded by anyone for not wearing makeup, let alone by men, which is what these people argue for now. i do think that a lot of women know in the back of their mind that wearing makeup is rewarded by the patriarchy and are largely invested in makeup because it is rewarded by the patriarchy but dont want it to be true because then they would be engaging in regressive behavior and so are extremely insecure about their participation in this activity, lol

of course, it doesnt help that in an absurdly gender segregated world, many men cannot even recognize that a woman is wearing makeup depending on the style, and so often prefer "natural" or "no makeup" looks that require a shitton of makeup, creating the illusion that not wearing makeup is preferable to men when honestly they still want women to wear makeup lol. this is also conflated with the "sexism is over!!!" style badass woman character who, while absolutely wearing a ton of makeup and being absurdly beautiful in the most normal heterosexual mans desire way, also knows how to do perhaps one traditionally masculine thing like fighting or working on cars (im picturing black widow or megan fox in the transformers movies for these examples.) all of this is flattened into an idea that this is the reason why a woman would "choose" to be gender nonconforming-- to impress men. it becomes the only reason they will accept as the truth regardless of what a gnc woman may say-- because obviously shes just lying about it to avoid criticism-- and prejudices their reaction to the mere sight of gnc women, leading to mistreatment, cruelty, and exclusion, which, ironically, may make the only viable, nonjudgmental social settings for those women to exist in to BE among primarily men who are relatively chill and see those women as "one of the boys" and to talk shit with those men about the absolutely horrid way women have treated them, thus completing the illusion that this was the purpose of the gender nonconformity in the first place. this cycle certainly existed prior to the feminist thinkpiece industry, but i dont think people conceptualized it as an act of antifeminism the way they do now, but rather a form of moral degeneration of another kind.

sorry this is so long feel free not to publish if you dont want lol. i just wanted to share my perspective as someone who has borne the brunt of a lot of these judgments for most of my life and has watched the way the judgments have morphed from being really based very strongly in the idea that gnc=not trying to be appealing to men= judging women for trying to appeal to men= bad into gnc=trying to appeal to men= hating other women= bad. ultimately its all just a posthoc justification for the insecure kneejerk reaction to what challenges status quo dressed up in social justice language now due to cultural shifts igss

"People are oppressed for displaying femininity rather than gender-nonconformity in general" is one of those takes that seem very common in some spheres but don't really hold up when you examine it.

For one, being GNC is used as a sign of being queer by a lot of people (including those who are not themselves cishet), and in much of the world being visibly queer is literally dangerous to your life.

But even aside from that, have you seen what religious conservatives actually preach on the matter? They unambiguously hate it when women are not feminine. They see it as a doomed effort to fight the divine natural order that will only leave said women and those around them miserable. A sign of a decaying civilization.

For example, the professional child abuse advocate and voice of christian homophobia James Dobson writes that not conforming arises from political brainwashing and corruption distorting the natural order of things:

He goes on to write that failing at this could also be a sign of "daddy issues", and the wording on this is maximally creepy.

These conservatives would much prefer if men were universally masculine and women were universally feminine, with punishments for any deviation.

[legacyshenanigans]

I don't usually answer asks that are in a way trying to diss me lmao, because I don't like giving the anon who sent it the satisfaction of having a personal response from me.

However, this one got me confused and chuckling. So, Anon, if you're lurking.

In response to your ask, which is basically you complaining about my PERSONAL headcanon of Marvolo being forced to use crucio on Ominis, instead of the canon lore 'Ominis's siblings purposely cast crucio on him and were horrible to him all the time'. Saying that "I only say that to make Marvolo look like a good person"

Babe? Are you ok? Lmao.

1. If I wanted to make Marvolo a good person in general, I'd be out here WRITING him as a good person, which if you've SEEN my content on him. I fucking don't 🤣🤣

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2. My headcanon for Marvolo and Ominis's relationship suits ME and what I WANT for my OWN HC. They're typical siblings who sometimes argue and have their differences, but they're still siblings nonetheless, and Marvolo actually cares about Ominis, and Ominis cares about him, as brothers do, though they're very different people in their ways.

Your notion that I "Try to make Marvolo a good person, when he isn't. To get people to like him" is ridiculous tbh 🤣

I dont give a FUCK if people don't like him, I LIKE that there's people who don't. I don't write him as a good person, because you're right about one thing, HE ISN'T, and I LIKE that about him, that's why I write him the way I do 🤣 And everyone who enjoys my content KNOWS that lmao.

I could also speak forever about his relationship with MC, which again, YOU and your way of thinking, probably thinks "why is he so nice to her? When he's NOT a nice person?"

Why not? Because he loves her, obviously 🤣

My HC for Marvolo is my own and my sanctuary. I'll write him however I please.

But don't get it twisted, I'm not OUT HERE trying to "make him a good person" to "make people like him" 🤣

As I said, the fact that, in general, he ISN'T, is exactly WHY I enjoy him. But is it SO wrong that he can CARE about certain people in his life?

Damn, bruh. Hush your gums. And get off my fuckin blog lmao.

Anyway, thanks for reading. 🤣

[badgalsasuke]

No but honestly I still can't believe that sasuke pettily saying "You'll deal with what you have to deal. I'll do what I have to do. Isn't that the 'cooperation' you want?" and then Naruto looking dejected/angry afterwards is a real dialogue and not many sns caught that. It's like the whole synthesis on why things are the way they are in both of their character's arc by the ending of the series. As someone who is well familiar with the practice of lavender marriages, compulsory heterosexuality, closetting, bearding, etc and just the entire gist of conforming for the sake of it, it just sounds so damn familiar and heartbreaking.

And also the part in your post about canon naruto not being that estatic/excited in his inauguration day. Him always looking tired and exhausted in boruto and just generally losing that spark of him that is present in his younger days. Upholding the status quo and not changing anything, just doing things that is expected of him yet failling and making mistakes under the crust of all that pressure (his son not liking him, etc) . It might just be an attempt to make an MC seems 'flawed' or grown up or something but I agree with what you said on how the direction of how naruto and sasuke now live their lives post war is rather to show how the idealism dream that is glorified in the og series is now gone and muted in the harshness of realities and it also represents the potential of their romantic bond as well.

You obviously believe Kishi wrote it intentionally to potray the bleakness of having to conform and I do too but I also wonder if him choosing this angle is also because his writing, in itself, is also facing a lot of pressure from maybe the studio, the manga's core audiences, etc so him having realization that he can't exactly write the true essence of the story how he sees it, he choose the nihilist/stoic angle on how to end the series. All the subtle hints and subtext regarding this goes crazy tho and I'm thankful there's someone in the fandom who notices that.

Anyways, I came upon your blog here because the naruto fandom on twitter is such a nightmare. Stan culture nowadays is all about dumb petty fights and superficial things rather than discussing and analyzing themes in depth. From the dudebros who don't understand things beyond surface level, het shippers acting like they're opressed for shipping male and female character (and trying to argue this in a woke way mind you), and many other variants of annoying loud stans. The big sns accounts there are quite popular but because twitter is such a large and unmoderated platform, harrassment and exhausting fights with antis make a lot of sns stans dont bother saying anything and like to tip toe and walk on eggshells. I guess it will always be a win that even casual readers/watchers of the series will always notice the inherent homoeroticism of sns. The only ones who vehemently denies this are already filled with grouthink-based prejudice.

Hello anon!

Yeah, Kishimoto is very much intentional in everything that he writes and he says that in interviews, idk why everyone in the fandom ignores that (actually, I do). Like I said in my thoughts about the ending post, Kishimoto tried his damn hardest to keep Naruto and Sasuke in character while giving the editorial, the studio and the fans the heterosexual finale they wanted. It's funny how some think Naruto is out of character because he's so apathetic when he used to be so full of joy and defiance and I'm always like you're not seeing the full picture because you're not paying attention to the story.

And I know about Naruto twitter. I don't like to engage with the SNS fandom on either twitter or tiktok because I find all discussions so utterly boring it feels like walking in circles endlessly. They never have something new or deeper to talk about from the manga and they're always giving grace to het!shippers like "Sakura is great but-" "I don't hate Naruhina but-" and I'm just annoyed like stfu and stand your ground!!!!!

But I'm glad you stumbled upon SNS tumblr fandom, I'm not afraid to say it but we're the smart side of the fandom LMFAO hopefully you'll find other blogs whose content you like (there's several that are great)