#all for one is midoriya hisashi

[dulcerba]

Why isn't Izuku dead? A Discussion on OFA + Secondary Quirk Characteristics

This is something I've wondered ever since the reveal that Hikage Shinomori died from old age at 40, because of the strain from having 2 quirks. The obvious explanation is that a human being cannot possess more than one quirk (unless you're All for One), because they will experience "quirk overload", where the mind (think like in the Nomus) and body (think like in Nine) cannot handle the quirk. This is the reason why only a formerly quirkless person can safely wield One for All.

But there's something missing here.

Izuku is shown to be the only user of One for All to be able to use past user's quirks. All past vestiges had only been able to use their original quirks and the power-stockholding aspect of One for All, even All Might. One For All has also been confirmed to have reached quirk singularity, which only makes the situation more confusing.

There are other people who have been in possession of multiple quirks without becoming Nomus, such as:

All for One

Gigantomachia

Nine

Number 6 (antagonist from My Hero Academia: Vigilantes)

Tomura Shigaraki

Izuku Midoriya

However, Nine, Number 6, and Shigaraki all underwent severe body modification to be able to handle the quirks. Healing quirks, such as Gigantomachia's Endurance, Tomura's Super Regeneration, and Nine's attempt to claim Cell Activation, are also able to undermine the effects of quirk overload. This leaves us with only two "natural" multiple quirks holders:

All for One

Gigantomachia

Nine

Number 6

Tomura Shigaraki

Izuku Midoriya

Izuku's capability to hold multiple quirks can't be attributed to his prior quirklessness, since he now has no less than seven quirks. Born without a quirk or not, that's still being in possession of more than one. By all accounts, Izuku should be braindead, or at the least, aging extremely fast/being in bad health, but he isn't.

Now, let's have a quick talk about Secondary Quirk Characteristics:

What are they? These are quirk characteristics that are inherited by a person even though they may be unrelated to their own quirk.

Fumikage Tokoyami - bird head that is unrelated to Dark Shadow

Koji Koda - rock-like head that has nothing to do with Anivoice

Mina Ashido - horns, eyes, and skin that are not part of Acid

These are usually traits that belonged to a person's ancestors as part of that ancestor's quirk. Sometimes, these traits will compile with others to form a combined quirk (such as Tsuyu Asui's Frog quirk or Shouto Todoroki's tolerance to fire and ice with his Half-Cold Half-Hot).

Secondary Quirk Characteristics can actually be compared to Darwin's Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. If the trait aids/does not hinder the body's ability to safely use their quirk (and by extension, to survive), then it will be passed on. There is even speculation that the designs of the cast are due to these secondary traits (like the Midoriya's green hair), making them much more colourful than their Pre-Quirk counterparts. This would mean that secondary traits can be inherited by someone regardless of if they are quirkless or not.

How does this relate to Izuku's strange ability to use multiple quirks?

Because of the theory that he is related to All for One (more specifically, the Dad for One Theory).

His ability for holding many quirks can be logically explained by two things:

He could possess a secret quirk that is a fusion between the All for One quirk and Inko's Attraction of Small Objects quirk. If so, the quirk might not express the same holes as in the palms of All for One and Shigaraki, since Izuku could theoretically "pull" quirks towards himself, or it could be another type of AFO-esque power (can gain quirks though DNA-consumption, can pass on quirks like Yoichi, etc). Whatever it could be, it would have to be something that can provide him with the protection from quirk overload. Even AFO might not know about his quirk, since he wasn't able to detect Yoichi's original Transference quirk. This suggests that All for One can't detect quirks that can actually manipulate the DNA of other quirks (unlike Aizawa's Erasure or Monoma's Copy, which just block/copy their effects), or that he cannot detect quirks that are in held by a family member. I don't really which of those it could be, since canon never really explained why Yoichi's original quirk was noticed.

OR

If he is truly quirkless like the series says, he could have inherited a Secondary Quirk Characteristic that allowed him the capacity to possess multiple quirks, even if he was quirkless on his own, making him the perfect vessel for OFA. Plus, it completes the family trio.

All for One - Takes/Gives Quirks

Yoichi - Passes On Quirks

Izuku - Keeps Quirks

Edited last on March 10

[proxissima]

It's a silly little headcanon with the singular piece of evidence going for it being literally only that Izuku's father has a fire quirk.

It's just hilarious to me.

There is so much potential for drama and comedy; just the irony that Enji indeed created the perfect successor that would finally surpass All Might...except it's not the child he thought it would be and it wasn't even due to his own merit. *chef's kiss*

[i-cant-handle-change]

[hardieworth]

AFO gets younger with each chapter and I still believe that the Star Wars nerd that is Horikoshi will give us a “Izuku, I am your father” scene, but if things keep going this way it’s gonna be a baby dropping that bomb.

[bkdk-fan4ever]

Midoriya Izuku has All For One | Dad For One | Parental All For One | AFO is Midoriya Hisashi | Dead Midoriya Inko | HeroStudent! Midoriya Izuku | Shenanigans | Ongoing

All For UA by ScottishSunshine

Izuku Midoriya is going to be a hero, and where can he learn that better than U.A.?

Sure it'll be challenging, but he has the full support of his rather... unusual family, and he'll be attending alongside his closest friends!

And besides, All For One retired years ago and has made it quite clear he will not be returning to his life of crime so long as Izuku keeps him supplied with hugs.

With the most dangerous villain ever officially dead, what's the worst that can happen?

[maripolifan]

If MHA was just a little sillier...

The biggest question left in the series unanswered (so far)... 

Who is Hisashi Midoriya? Who IS Izuku's father????

Ik I'm playing Russian roulette rn with how things are going in the manga lmao

Note:

Endeavor is here because Izuku being his secret love child is an actually funny theory (to me)

All Might is here because he's def hitting that

AFO thinks he's the top dog, but he is, at most, a clown

Mystery guy. Ignore him. Maybe he got lost on his way to the restroom?

[fizasjam]

It only my thoughts and interpretation. I just haven't seen such thing in bnha fd so I did it. It was fun!

[vam1mav]

|| Nah, even on Twitter they remembered ||

[skydragonclouds]

Why All for One is Izuku’s Father pt. 9 — Izuku is Foreshadowed to be the Next All for One

“Can the child do it, I wonder?” I’ll let him do all the work so that he can become the next “me”! That child was born warped enough to do so.

Dissect this phrase first: I’ll let him do all the work.

All for One implies that Izuku has chosen a path that is hardworking and thorny: “The path you’ve chosen is a thorny one. Every battle grinds away at your soul with no end in sight.”

All for One: I’ll let him do all the hard work so that he can become the next “me”!

All for One’s secret plan has always been to make Izuku into the next All for One. He’s next—or, in other words, it’s his turn.

“Corrupted” by @dookoa

Why All for One is Izuku’s Father — part 1

Part 1 – “Izuku Midoriya is All for One’s true successor (the next All for One)”

In chapter 59:

“Wonder if “the kid” can do it.” Or in some translations, “Can the child do it, I wonder?”

“That child was born warped enough to do so.”

Shigaraki is 20 years old, not a child/kid.

“I’ll let him do all the hard work so that he can become the next “me”!”

This popular technique is called a Red Herring. It means to redirect the audience’s attention onto a likely/popular topic in order to hide the true answer/truth. In this case, All for One’s hand over Shigaraki’s image and Shigaraki being All for One’s student is the Red Herring—to take our attention away from his intended target, Izuku Midoriya.

(Personal opinion: when All for One says “that child was born” it sounds like a dad would say that.) There are two roles with different people:

1. “Shigaraki Tomura, his position is to unify and supervise them!”

2. Can the child do it, I wonder? “I’ll let him do all the hard work so that he can become the next “me”!” That child was born warped enough to do so. — Izuku Midoriya

3. Can the child do it, I wonder? That child was born warped enough to do so.

[diamondcz27]

Aww he has a smile after his father

And their similar funny and silly moments 🥰

[dulcerba]

Guys, last night I had the weirdest dream that I was All for One and was getting married to Inko Midoriya, which was terrible because:

her mom (Nana Shimura) was being a monster mother-in-law to me (fair enough)

All Might was there in a really bad civilian disguise that somehow fooled everyone

and he couldn't fight me because he thought I was going to kill everyone there

the wedding photos went really badly because they couldn't fit me in the shot (being 7'4" is a real pain)

I think at some point Mitsuki Bakugou socked me in the face (also fair)

I kept banging my head onto doorways

the real All for One is freaking out in my head because he's stuck there

I wasn't sure whether to laugh, cry, or die because while this is amazing and I'm sure AFO feels every bit of the pain I feel, so many people are being mean to me (again, fair, but ouch)

this man has, like, a thousand quirks, and I can't control any of them

I end up crying over a glass of sweet tea

So, anyone want me to write this??

[donkeys-waffles]

I love the Inko Shimura + DFO so much because it's either

AFO: I'm going to befriend (seduce) her son, force him to have a second child, THEN THEN, are you listening Doctor, I'm gonna groom him to be my new vessel!

The doctor: Wonderful idea, my lord! And what about her daughter?

AFO: Oh, I'll just kill her 😒

5 months later.

Afo walks into the doctors laboratory.

AFO: IM MARRIED AND WITH CHILD!!!

Or

AFO: i will marry Nanas daughter and taint her heroic genes with mine, making an evil baby that might serve as a replacement to Tenko.

AFO comes into the doctors laboratory with a 4 year old Izuku.

AFO: Nanas heroic genes were stronger, and now my supposed to be evil son is a little sweet heart. He wants to save people, doctor.

Doctor: we can always kill him ☺️

AFO, crushing izuku to his chest like a teddy bear: No!

[i-cant-handle-change]

This is a continuation of my last post.

Izuku is hungry.

No, he isn't hungry, he's starving.

Ever since he's been taken underground into the underworld, Izuku hadn't drunk or eaten anything. His mind was permanently stuck on the warnings his mother had given him about the dangers of the food of the underworld.

If he had eaten or drunk anything from the underworld, he would be a permanent resident there.

Knowing this, Izuku closed himself off from anything related to food or drinks. Distracting himself from anything else, the young God forcibly bit his lip whenever he was offered any sustenance. Shoving it away with the same old excuse that he wasn't hungry and that he’ll eat later.

Much later...

He’d eat the dry skin on his lips, the broken nails he’d bite off, and even his robes to keep himself from giving in. He went as far as swallowing the bile at the back of his throat to quench his thirst.

Izuku was starving, craving any kind of nourishment to please his unnerving appetite.

It was driving him mad and the God that had kidnapped him took advantage of that.

All for One would always present food and drinks wherever Izuku would go. Always close to Izuku’s reach, he would eat and drink to his heart’s content to pursue the young God to join him. Yet, the young God would turn away and occupy himself with something else entirely.

But inside his stomach would shake with agony as he clenched his robes so hard that his knuckles turned white.

“You’re killing yourself over something so small and insignificant.”

Izuku turned, his grip on his robes tightening.

“My mother is neither small nor insignificant! She is more of a God than you’ll ever be!”

All for One chuckled, eating another grape from his plate with a smile. Izuku persisted nonetheless, his hunger combating his anger.

“You’ll be sorry when she’ll realizes what you’ve done! She’ll break down the doors of the underworld itself just to get me back!“

All for One laughs, taking another grape into his mouth, his face turning smug.

“Izuku, I would love to see how your mother would go out of her way to get you into her arms again. Knowing her myself, I would see how much of a tantrum she would have made by now. Last I heard, that woman has plagued the world into an eternal cold, not one plant is safe from her wrath.”

Izuku huffed, feeling himself stand tall as the God before him come close. He braced himself to show how brave he was despite how painful his eyes stung to release his tears.

“My mother is an all-powerful Goddess, she will see that you suffer because of your recklessness.”

A large hand then caressed Izuku’s hair, shocking the young God as he then noticed how close the God had come up to him. He did not see rage cross the older God’s facial features, instead, he sees a sense of amusement.

“If your mother does plan to come down into my realm, then so be it, but she’ll have to understand the trouble I went to have you in my grasp.”

The plate was given to Izuku who grabbed onto it without thinking twice. Despite how his stomach screamed to have Izuku eat the remaining food, he ignored it. Opting to watch the God before he walks away, leaving him once more alone, in a room he's been stuck in for days on end.

The plate of food, once again, was thrown off amongst the others. The fallen food is still as pure and clean as they were since they were given to Izuku after all this time. Once again, his stomach screams at him to give in as he forces himself to walk away from it all.

Izuku cannot die but the more his stomach continued to churn from within he felt as if he could.

[ernand-0]

Hori is just messing with us at this point

Here is something someone pointed out to me on the AFO discord. I don't know Japanese, so take things with a grain of salt to not spread misinformation! But. . . Koga - the construction company that AFO had/worked at.

How it's written in the Japanese version: 甲 - armour/first class 賀 - celebration.

Okay, nothing specific.

BUT... What other way can Koga be spelled as? 久我

AND GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS!

久- Hisashi 我 - I/myself (I am Hisashi) … Yea

[probablyinthevoid]

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