#age of ultron prelude

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

I feel pretty embarrassed that it took me this long to finally dig up the Age of Ultron prelude comic that I keep mentioning in my posts, but here it is. As far as I know, this is meant to be canon to the MCU. But frankly it’s nowhere near as informative as I was led to believe. I have a few thoughts:

This comic is directly contradicted by Endgame, as it shows a different account of what happened to Loki’s scepter after the Battle of New York, which was something EG implied was not changed.

What I was told about the comic’s explanation of Wanda and Pietro is more or less accurate; it is indeed shown that Dr. List promised them the power to help their country and end the conflict, so that tracks. But... I was kinda hoping there was more to it than that honestly. 

I was also told that according to this comic Pietro was the one who was more willing to participate in Strucker’s experiments than Wanda, which is indeed true.

There is one line of dialogue where List says “I can provide you with the tools to stand up to your oppressors”. But it’s not really made clear who the oppressors are. Are they Hydra? Are they other Sokovians? I don’t think this was ever addressed anywhere.

Contrary to what I was led to believe, there is no concrete proof in this comic that the twins aren’t aware they are working for Hydra. I guess to be fair, there isn’t any proof that they ARE aware either, but still. [Though there is a panel where I think Project Insight is mentioned right in front of them, but to be fair, it’s not like they know what that is.]

So yeah, this comic wasn’t exactly the smoking gun I was hoping for. Color me disappointed.

[bad-comic-art]

Hello, these are from "Marvel's Avengers: Age of Ultron Prelude" 2015 The perpetrators are Wellington Slves (pencils) and Manny Clark (inker)

For reference: those characters are supposed to be around 15 years old, here they look 40 at least

submitted by @caffeinefafnir

[valkyrieandstrangeridingaragorn]

Dudebro here thinks the Age of Ultron prelude comic should be disregarded:

I don’t think protecting Sokovia and fighting the Avengers are mutually exclusive considering we get a glimpse of anti-Avenger propaganda there, but what do I know?

But that's rewriting the meaning of that dialogue. They signed up for the experiments so they could stop the Avengers, and the Hydra base they were being kept in was being attacked by the Avengers at that moment, so yeah... That was exactly what they had signed up for. I don't see what the confusion is there.

And I agree with you, in the twins' mind stopping the Avengers = saving Sokovia. They were teens raised in foster care who watched their parents get killed by American weapons and the way their grief and hurt manifested was in an absolute hatred for anything American-related. Not to mention they grew up convinced the Avengers were no more than pawns for their government.

But how convenient that these fans never mention this line from Wanda that comes as soon as she can read Ultron's mind: "You said we would destroy the Avengers, make a better world." The way they were going about it was wrong, but what they wanted to do wasn't. It's not such a difficult concept to grasp, or at least it shouldn't be.

Also, just one more thing I don't understand: It is one thing to know about the existence of Hydra and quite another to know that the people you're hanging out with are Hydra. After Nat leaked all that crap in TWS no one in their right mind would advertise themselves as Hydra, they would try to hide even more than before. I have no idea why these fans claim post-TWS all the nazi goons would be out there publicly proclaiming their allegiance.

And Wanda and Pietro had already been through enough and had their own physiology, body and mind altered by the experiments. To think that they should be in perfect sound mind to be able to tell what's going on in that base is ridiculous.

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

The Maximoff twins join and serve Hydra for an unknown number of years, practicing using their powers on people?

Not in the slightest.

Wanda and Pietro volunteered for Strucker’s experiments because they were desperate to be able to defend their home. That is where their affiliation (if you can even call if that) with him ended. They did not “serve Hydra” as you claim, and frankly I think it’s asinine that you even suggested that.

And even leaving their motives aside, they were recruited before the events of Winter Soldier where Hydra was revealed, and by the time there was any way for the twins to know what Strucker and his men were it was already too late to escape.

All of that is clearly detailed here, and while the canonicity of this comic is debatable at best since Endgame directly contradicts it, the idea is bolstered by this scene right here:

Oh, and of course you went and dragged out the “Wanda and Pietro practiced their powers on innocents” argument. There is literally zero evidence for that, and given the only people they could have been “practicing on” were their fellow Sokovians, the very people they were trying to protect, there is no way that is true at all.

[OK sure, Wanda had to learn about her mental abilities somehow, but I doubt Strucker was letting his men be her test subjects, as loyal Hydra operatives were in short supply, and again, there is no way she was practicing on her countrymen, so it’s not really clear who she could have tested it out on. Pietro maybe?]

 All on Strucker to the point that Steve is willing to attack Tony with deadly force on sight without asking what is going on at Wanda’s say so. That’s how trustworthy and immediately innocent she is because it wasn’t her, it was Hydra. (And no, her situation is actually miles from Bucky Barnes, but the quote fits.)

That is... not even close to what happened in that scene. A lot of people have this weird Mandela Effect where they think that Steve was actively trying to kill Tony, when the two of them never so much as make physical contact in that scene. Steve is exclusively going for Tony’s tech so he can’t finish the power surge. And even the twins by that point were trying to be good, so they weren’t going to try and kill either.

Here is the scene if you don't believe me. Steve clearly throws his shield at the computers, not at Tony, so the idea that he was actively trying to kill him is insane.

Sorry, got a little angry there. But man am I ever getting sick of these points being made.

🤨🤨

I'm sick of people blaming Wanda instead of accepting that MoM was clearly massive character shift and poorly written. Wanda's not real, she is a fictional character at the whims of the writing. When previous story ended with Wanda giving up her own happiness for the sake of others to indiscriminately murdering anyone to get what she wants that's not consistent or quality writing. Putting redemption aside for the moment what I want is that character derailment rectified.

[melorea]

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[titaniasfics]

SSS: You Asked Me To Stay - by Titaniasfics

A Wanda x Vision MCU Fanfiction

Multichapter Fic

Canon-Compliant

Mature (eventually)

Friends-to-lovers

Wow, it's been a while since I've posted anything. After WandaVision, I knew I wanted to explore these characters more deeply. This is not a fix-it fic. I try to remain as close to canon as possible while filling in the blanks on how these two characters fall in love. Because I'm all about the romance!

I'll be posting one short chapter per week on Mondays (because I have hard publishing deadlines). It was outlined for 10 chapters but in the writing, it has taken off in other directions. Of course.

Takes place between the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron and Avengers: Infinity War. Incorporates details from the Avengers: Infinity War Prelude comic book series.

Prologue and Chapter 1 posts to AO3 on Monday.

Summary:

Wanda Maximoff has lost too much - her parents, her city, and her beloved twin brother. As Sokovia falls to imminent destruction, she has nothing left to lose. She doesn't count on Vision, Tony Starks's latest creation, flying in to save her at the last moment.

Prologue after the cut:

Wanda never thought she’d spend the final moments of her life floating. She’d always imagined her end would come by way of a fiery explosion, like her parents. Or lately, in a hail of gunshots, like Pietro.

Is it real? Is Pietro truly gone?

A black chasm opens inside her, forcing bile up her throat.

“If you stay here, you will die.”

“I just did. Do you know how it felt?”

Ironic that Ultron would worry about Wanda’s well-being when he had robbed her of the only person in the world who had meant anything to her. When Pietro died, so did she.

How does dying feel?

Like careening into a barrier, experiencing every shattered bone and burst blood vessel all at once but magnified beyond human endurance. The unspeakable agony of something being torn away, like the raw shredding of muscle fiber. Endless, bloody pain.

Then nothing.

Everything afterward is just one, big, uninterrupted nothing.

And now, with the city falling through space, she, too, has become nothing. Just a bag of flesh filled with the howling wind.

She floats. The city falls. And there’s nothing left to do but to let it happen.

So when Vision comes from behind and scoops her up into his vibranium arms, she can’t compute it. Can’t fit the synthezoid’s actions into the dead-end that she’s crashed into.

There is no floating anymore. They are flying. Hurtling away from the end of everything she’s ever known – her city, her childhood, Pietro - towards something different. A place where none of that can exist.

She considers struggling against her savior, considers a drop to the earth that is too sudden, too precipitous for him to outfly, but she knows before the idea comes to full fruition that it is futile. This new being Stark has created won’t allow her to fall – she doesn’t have to read Vision’s mind to understand this. He won’t let her shatter against the ground.

He’s left her no other choice but to live.

[staarknaked]

Avengers Infinity War Prelude #2

[tamayokny]

this is a very unpopular opinion but while you may criticize the mcu maximoffs, stop saying that they were nazis, because they weren’t. 

[historicalfictionsims]

Agent Carter CC Set - Part 3/3 - Agent Carter Season Two and other MCU Films

In all honesty I was not a fan of season two, but the costumes were still nice. So I just chose a few I especially liked and supplemented the rest with outfits from the movies Peggy was in after CATFA. Would've loved to include the 1949 dress from Endgame, but there aren't any full enough visuals for me to confidently guess. Most items are in @sourgalaxy's From the Flowers palette with a few extra swatches here and there.

This is also my prelude to Day 7 of Steggy Week 2021. Not tagging it officially since it's only half of the ship.

AC season 2 - Red dress and floppy hat (slider not needed), jumpsuit, short sleeve blouse (full body outfit). two-tone dress and triangle dress.

Avengers: Age of Ultron - Vision dress.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 1953 suit (@waxesnostalgic's Vintage Neutrals palette).

Avengers: Endgame - 1970 dress.

Ant-Man - 1989 suit (Vintage Neutrals).

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@maxismatchccworld @mmoutfitters @twentiethcenturysims

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

As for the backstory

Yeah, I've read the tie-in comic.

Leaving aside the fact that its canonicity is debatable at best since Endgame directly contradicts it, the comic doesn't really offer any indication of how much Sokovia knew about Hydra (or SHIELD for that matter).

I guess it does specify that Wanda and Pietro's agenda was only ever to be powerful enough to end the civil war in Sokovia though, but it doesn't specify whether or not they ever knew what Strucker was.

[darke15]

BATTLE SCARRED : AFTERMATH

Table of Contents

Chapter 1 // BATTLE FOR NEW YORK

Chapter 2 // OPPORTUNITY

Chapter 3 // RETURN TO THE HELICARRIER

Chapter 4 // AVENGERS INITIATIVE

Chapter 5 // FLASHBACK : AEROCELL

Chapter 6 // EXO-7 FALCON

Chapter 7 // THE WINTER SOLDIER

Chapter 8 // THE FALL OF SHIELD

Chapter 9 // FLASHBACK : COCAINE AND CORONA

Chapter 10 // (UN)EXPECTED COMPANY

Chapter 11 // THE SEARCH

Chapter 12 // REDUX : (UN)EXPECTED COMPANY

Chapter 13 // FLASHBACK : CRIMSON OCTOPI

Chapter 14 // DECISIONS

Chapter 15 // LIES AND TRUTH

Chapter 16 // FLASHPOINT

Chapter 17 // HIT AND RUN

Chapter 18 // MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY

Chapter 19 // FLASHBACK : SOUS LE CIEL DE PARIS — UNDER PARIS SKIES

Chapter 20 // RETURNING TO EDEN

Chapter 21 // THE NOTEBOOK

Chapter 22 // EAST WIND

Chapter 23 // USS : ALLIANCE

Chapter 24 // THE ENHANCED

Chapter 25 // STATIC

Chapter 26 // FADED MEMORIES

Chapter 27 // PRELUDE

Chapter 28 // REVELS

Chapter 29 // FLASHBACK : MINUIT A PARIS — MIDNIGHT IN PARIS

Chapter 30 // THE WITCH'S DREAMS

Chapter 31 // FLASHBACK : LE FANTOME DE PARIS — THE PHANTOM OF PARIS

Chapter 32 // VISIONS

Chapter 33 // THE AGE OF ULTRON

Chapter 34 // HOMEWARD BOUND

Chapter 35 // FLASHBACK : 東京に幽霊がいます — THERE'S A GHOST IN TOKYO

Chapter 36 // ANONYMOUS AVENGER

Chapter 37 // NIGHT TERRORS

Chapter 38 // OCCLUDED FRONT

Chapter 39 // ZERO DARK THIRTY

Chapter 40 // FROM THE BACKWOODS TO THE FRONTLINES

Chapter 41 // ESCAPING EDEN

Chapter 42 // FLASHBACK : 出没する東京 — HAUNTING TOKYO

Chapter 43 // LONDON EYES

Chapter 44 // GHOST RESURFACES

Chapter 45 // WARGAMES

Chapter 46 // SILHOUETTES

Chapter 47 // TRIGGER FINGER

Chapter 48 // SHADOW BOXING

Chapter 49 // THE DEVIL IN DUBAI

Chapter 50 // WELCOME TO AFTERMATH

Chapter 51 // UNITED WE STAND

Chapter 52 // THE POINT OF NO RETURN

Chapter 53 // CATALYST OF CHAOS

Chapter 54 // HEROES DRESSED IN BLACK

Chapter 55 // SEVEN TARGETS, SEVEN KILLS

Chapter 56 // ACTION, REACTION

Chapter 57 // KILLER INSTINCT

[ultrahpfan5blog]

Rewatching TDK Trilogy

Easily my favorite superhero trilogy and arguably one of my favorite trilogies of all time. I think in terms of superhero trilogies, Captain America is the one that comes closest because I love all three movies, but they aren’t a trilogy in the normal sense in that Civil War is essentially Avengers 2.5 and neither Civil War nor Winter Soldier can be understood without having watched Avengers and Age of Ultron. But even putting that aside, I adore TDK trilogy and it still ranks as my favorite superhero movies. The trilogy, obviously starting with Batman Begins, is what put introduced me to Nolan. I hadn’t seen Memento and Insomnia till then so Batman Begins was literally my first introduction to him.

I was always a big Batman fan as a huge follower of the DCAU cartoons with Kevin Conroy voicing a really badass Batman throughout the 90′s and into the early 2000′s. While I enjoyed the first 4 Batman movies as a kid, yes even B&R, I always wanted to see the more somber version from the cartoons. Batman Begins hit me at the perfect time where I started to have longer attention spans and wasn’t just looking for the next action scene. Rewatching the movie, it amazes me that Batman doesn’t show up for half the movie. I think that was a really brave call given pretty much all previous Batman movies introduced Batman almost immediately. I genuinely love all the prelude to Bruce becoming Batman. I liked that we got to see his training extensively and we are introduced to the city and see the dynamics of the rich and the poor, the police, the mob, the lawyers etc... It really gives Gotham a very grounded personality. I think Nolan really killed it at the casting level. By getting Caine as Alfred, Freeman as Fox, and Oldman as Gordon, he created a superbly acted support structure around Bruce/Batman, so we aren’t just always waiting for Bruce to show up. On top of that, they had Liam Neeson as Ra’s, who is effortlessly compelling, as well as other strong supporting actors like Cillian Murphy as a scene stealing Scarecrow, Tom Wilkinson as Falcone, Rutger Hauer as Earle etc... All giving personality to a difference facet of the city and Bruce’s life. But this truly is Bale’s movie. I didn’t know him at all prior to this film, but I have been a fan ever since. He carries the movie on his shoulders and he delivers the ferociousness of Batman and the humanity of Bruce Wayne effortlessly. If there is someone who doesn’t make a big impression, its Katie Holmes. I didn’t find her terrible, but rather the character isn’t exactly well written which bleeds into the next movie with Maggie Gyllenhall as well. My favorite Batman performance. Rewatching, what surprised me the most is the amount of humor in the movie. This is actually reflective of the entire trilogy. The movies deal with darkness and death, but there is actually plenty of humor sprinkled throughout these movies which prevent it from being dour. There have been a lot of superhero origin stories, but this still remains the gold standard of superhero origin stories. A 9/10 for me.

There is nothing I can say about The Dark Knight that hasn’t been said a 100 times over. It quite literally is the best comic book movie of all time. But it basically is at heart a drama about Gotham. Whereas BB acts as a character centric piece, this film is about all the characters living in Gotham. Arguable, the character that has the biggest arc in the film is Harvey Dent. Again, the casting department knocked it out of the park with the casting of Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent. Unfortunately, Eckhart never really capitalized on his performance here because he really was terrific in the film, both as Harvey and as Two-Face, to the point where you wished you had more of Two-Face. Gary Oldman gave his best work in the trilogy in this movie. The desperation as the situation spins out of control is fabulous. Freeman also has a very meaty role in the movie and continues to add a lot of weight to the scenes as well as plenty of humor, as does Michael Caine. Christian Bale continued to be terrific. There were some complaints about his voice, which I feel have been overexaggerated over the years. I definitely think his Begins voice is better, but barring one or two scenes, I never really had an issue with Bale’s voice in this film. He delivers a very nuanced performance. Maggie Gyllenhaal took over from Katie Holmes in TDK and while I think she is a far better actress than Katie Holmes, I think the character itself is not very well written. In both movies, Rachel comes off as very judgmental. Whereas in BB I can understand her reason in being so, given Bruce was ready to commit murder and later was out being a playboy in front of her for the sake of appearances, in this movie she is judgmental towards Bruce even though she knows what he has been doing to help the city. Also, she did come off a bit flaky in the whole Bruce/Rachel/Harvey triangle. And then there is Heath Ledger. There are very few performances that I consider perfect. This is one of them. I think every choice Ledger makes in this movie, be it intentional or unintentional, works amazingly well. Like him licking his lips to keep the make up on. It just adds a creepy quality to his character, even if it is completely unintentional. There are so many ticks and quirks in Ledger’s performance that make this a phenomenal performance. I don’t see any villain performance having matches that since 2008. I think the closest I have seen prior to that is Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lector in Silence of the Lambs. It really is a performance that adds such a big extra edge to the movie. I love that Nolan sticks to certain details such as Bruce never actually drinking alcohol and throwing it away at the part and then Joker showing up and taking a glass and him spilling almost all of it. It gives a lot of personality to the characters. If I have any complaint about the movie, it is that Bruce does at times feel like a stationary character as he does not have as big of an arc as a Harvey Dent. And if you want, you can pick apart the holes in the series of events that happen that cause the chaos. But the drama of the film is just so intense that you forget all of that behind. I give it a 9.5/10

The Dark Knight Rises to me is the film that gets often maligned just because it isn’t TDK. And that is a crazy yardstick to compare it to. But as a movie on its own, its pretty damn awesome. TDKR is where the film truly steps away from being a version of the comics to being an Elseworld story with Batman having been absent for 8 years and then Bruce retiring and leaving Gotham at the end of the movie. But I don’t think there was any way for Nolan to close out his trilogy without it becoming an Elseworld story and it really didn’t matter because I always figured that as long as Bruce is out there, if Gotham needed him, he would come back. Its not as if there aren’t existing comic book stories of Bruce having retired or left being Batman behind. Again, there is some superb new casting. JGL ends up being surprising integral and he is terrific. Tom Hardy is awesome as Bane. He manages to provide a terrifying presence. I actually loved his voice. I love that a terrifying brute of a man has a polite, gentlemanly sounding voice. It gave him a unique personality. Marion Cotillard is pretty good as Talia/Miranda. She has an awkwardly filmed death scene but she’s good throughout the rest of the film, particularly during the reveal scene. But the casting of the movie for me was Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle. I knew Anne Hathaway mostly from the Princess Bride movies till then even though she had gotten an academy award nomination by then. But I really didn’t envisage her as Selina Kyle but she blew me out of the water with her performance. She was seductive, yet very likable. I love the clever costume design of her goggles looking like cat ears when she puts them up. I also love Nolan’s version of the Lazarus Pit. Certainly Bruce’s climb out of the pit is one of the most compelling scenes of the movie. You truly feel the emotion. The film also has one of the best acted scenes I have scene between Michael Caine and Christian Bale in the hallway. Its the scene I remember first whenever I think about TDKR. Oscar quality acting by both in that scene. The returning cast is all terrific but Michael Caine has a few gut wrenching scenes, including this one and the scene at the funeral at the end. Oldman and Freeman continue to be stalwarts throughout the movie, I really admire that Nolan did not waste these actors and given them very substantial roles in all the movies and all these actors really respected the material to not sleep walk through the roles. I think Bale’s performance here rivals his performance in Begins. Particularly in the scenes in the Pit. You get to see a full range of emotions, from pain, to despair, to anger, to hope. Its a superb performance. The film isn’t flawless. Its just a tad too long and there is some clunky editing at times. None of the three films can be said to contain very memorable action sequences because Nolan is not known to have great action sequences in his film until more recently, but the drama in the action negates that. Like, the Bane vs Batman fight where Bane breaks Batman, isn’t the greatest action scene in terms of fight choreography, but there is a lot weight to these characters which is what makes it incredibly compelling. Same is true to an extent for the climax at the end. When Batman beats Bane, I felt a sense of satisfaction after what I had witnessed in the previous fight. Overall, I genuinely feel that I love the last act of TDKR the most out of all three films. The Batplane, Batpod, and Tumbler chase scene was thrilling and it was cool to watch all three Bat vehicles in operation. The ending montage also ends the movie on a real uplifting note for all characters, which is very satisfying. I really love the movie. A 9/10.

It has to be said that Zimmer’s score across all three films contributes enormously to these movies. All in all, these set of movies are still my favorite superhero movies and my favorite Nolan movies till date.

[bietrofastimoff23]

pietro saved his sister when he was just 10 years old, he took care of her all these years, he agreed to the experiments to stop the war he never wanted, he used his super speed to give people everything they needed, in the deleted scene he saved thor's life, and in the end he sacrificed himself for the people he met a couple of days ago.

pietro could be impulsive, arrogant, vindictive, but no one can deny that he had a big heart. he genuinely cared about others and was always ready to help those who deserved it.

pietro maximoff didn't deserve to be forgotten.

— Avengers: Age of Ultron Prelude

[9worldstales]

MCU: Is Loki a serial betrayal or not?

So one of the things I see often discussed in the MCU is the long, long history of deceit and betrayal that goes on between Thor and Loki that got mentioned in “Thor – Ragnarok”.

As various MCU movies and comics get mentioned, I made a list of the sources referenced so you’ll know if they might end up spoiling you. Consider yourself warned (or feel free to skip the list if it bores you).

SOURCES MENTIONED:

Movies: “Thor” (2011), “The Avengers” (2012), “Thor – The Dark World” (2013), “Avengers: Age of Ultron” (2015), “Thor – Ragnark” (2017), “The Avengers – Infinity War” (2018), “The Avengers – Endgame” (2019), “WandaVision” (2021)

Comics: “Thor: Son of Asgard” (2004) “Marvel's The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week” (2012)

Direct-to-video animated film: “Thor - Tales of Asgard” (2011)

Motion comics: None mentioned

Books: “Thor: heroes and villains” (2011), “Marvel Studios The first 10 years” (2018)

Novels: “Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase One: Thor” by Alex Irvine (2015), “Thor: The Dark World Junior Novelization” by Michael Siglain (2013), “Loki – Where mischief lies” by Mackenzi Lee (2019), “The pirate angel, the talking tree and captain rabbit” by Steve Behling (2019)

Webs: None mentioned

Others: Interview “A Talk With THOR: RAGNAROK’s Eric Pearson”, interview “Joss Whedon told Comic-Con the question he doesn’t want us to ask ever again”, Interview “Chris Hemsworth (Thor: The Dark World)”, Interview “Tom Hiddleston Talks the Love-Hate of Loki and ‘Thor’”, Interview “Chris Hemsworth Talks Expanding Beyond Asgard, Interview “Building to THE AVENGERS 2, and More on the Set of THOR: THE DARK WORLD”, Interview “Chris Hemsworth ‘Thor: Ragnarok’, Embracing the Comedy, the Thor/Loki Relationship and More”, Interview “Avengers 4 Endgame: Is Loki ALIVE? Chris Hemsworth gave a massive hint at London fan event”, Interview “Avengers stars reveal one big downside to the job”, “How Taika Waititi Made Thor: Ragnarok So Damn Funny”, Interview “How 'Thor: Ragnarok' Honors & Deviates from Its Comics Foundation”, Interview “Empire Podcast Spoiler Special: Thor: Ragnarok with Taika Waititi”, interview “Kevin Fiege Talks Iron Man 2, The Avengers and More”

So now, let’s start with a quote from Eric Pearson, one of the guys responsible for the script of “Thor - Ragnarok”.

“Thor and Loki have had so many interactions, and alliances, and betrayals. They’ve been each others’ nemesis for so long that even they’re a little exhausted by themselves. It’s almost like the fatigue of dealing with each other allows this terminator like force of Hela to just walk in. They’re divided so she conquers.” [A Talk With THOR: RAGNAROK’s Eric Pearson]

So, since math is an awesome thing and “Marvel Studios The first 10 years” gave us an official timeline let’s do some math.

For start the official timeline.

965: Odin adopts Loki

2011: Thor

2012: The Avengers

2013: Thor: The Dark World

2015: Avengers: Age of Ultron

2017: Thor: Ragnarok, Avengers: Infinity War

2022: Avengers: Endgame (actually not mentioned in the timeline but it takes place 5 years after “Avengers: Infinity War”)

Loki is adopted in 965 so he and Thor are adopted brothers by 1052 years in “Thor - Ragnarok”.

So… “Thor” takes place in 2011 and overall covers three days and, in 2 of them, Thor and Loki are on opposing sides. At the end of “Thor” Loki is believed to be dead.

In 2012 Loki shows up again in “Avengers”. Thor arrives on Earth by night and spend there what, a day? before going back to Asgard with Loki, who then spends a year in jail with Thor never visiting him before he is freed in “Thor: The Dark World”, which takes place in 2013.

It’s worth to mention in “Thor: The Dark World” Thor and Loki are allied against Malekit before Loki is believed dead again and instead rules Asgard up until 2017, when “Thor – Ragnarok” takes place.

Anyway this means that in those 1052 years they spent together Loki and Thor had been on opposing sides for 6 years… during which only 1 year was spent with Thor knowing Loki was alive and only 4 days were spent with them actively fighting each other.

But maybe those days were days of intense betrayal… so let’s sum them up.

For start let’s remember everyone that betrayal is a deliberate break of trust, of faith.

“Thor” is the one which contain most betrayal, even though some things weren’t meant to be as such at the time in which it was filmed but whatever, let’s be strict.

- Loki ruined Thor’s coronation

- Loki had Odin warned they were going to Jotunheim so that Odin came saving their lives

- Loki lied about Odin being dead and Frigga not wanting Thor back.

- After making clear he was Thor’s enemy (I mean he sent the Destroyer to ‘Ensure his brother does not return’, could he have been more explicit?) he tricked him into helping him making him believe he was dangling on the edge of the Bifrost and needed his help.

Okay, that’s a total of 4, one of which done to save everyone’s live (and it saved everyone’s life but, as I said, I’ll be strict and still count 4).

“The Avengers” despite painting Loki as the villain, has no betrayal. Loki doesn’t make any attempt to paint himself as Thor’s friend, he doesn’t even call Thor ‘brother’, he makes clear he wants Earth’s crown and he has made clear in “Thor” he wouldn’t hesitate to kill him. Yes, he lies to him about sending the Tesseract away, uses an illusion to trick Thor into ending up in the cage and drop the cage on the ground and stabs Thor on surprise as they’re fighting. He however never let Thor believe they’re on the same side, I’ll say with dropping the cage he remarked how he wasn’t on Thor’s side since he wondered if the fall could kill Thor. If Thor didn’t want to get the message, this was not Loki betraying him, this was Thor refusing to listen. As for Loki surviving to a fall into the void and not warning Thor about it, that’s not betrayal either. When Loki let himself fall in the void it was a suicide attempt. His survival is a plot hole for whom Whedon didn’t really bother making up an explanation.

“Well, I can’t tell you exactly what went on because it’s this dark, dark secret that I didn’t make up yet. But, the other day, I had trouble with that because he had this very passionate Shakespearean tragedy thing going on in Thor and then I needed a villain who’s not only capable, but ready and willing and anxious to take on all these heroes. For me, he just basically went on some horrible walkabout… That was pretty much as far as I got.” [Joss Whedon told Comic-Con the question he doesn’t want us to ask ever again ]

“Avengers: Infinity War” suggested Thanos resurrected him, how is up to speculation. I wonder if it has to do with the mind stone, which somehow resurrected his mind in a way similar to how Wanda resurrected Vision. But I’m not sure Marvel really tried to figure this out beyond ‘it just happened’. Anyway Loki didn’t plan to fake his death, his survival/resurrection was accidental and he didn’t own to his family to send them a note saying ‘I’m alive’.

So we’ve a total of 0.

“Thor: The Dark World” has merely the fact that Loki again didn’t die when he was supposed to. Mind you, he was supposed to die (or if he were to survive this was meant to be a secret as the movie’s ending was meant to be very different), but then they decided to keep him alive and on the throne of Asgard for “Thor: Ragnarok”. So, he clearly was stabbed and let Thor believe the wound was fatal, then went back to Asgard, took Odin’s place, offered Thor the throne and when the latter refused, took it for himself. We can’t count the fact he told Kurse ‘You might want to take the stairs to the left’ as betrayal because, again, being jailed, he’s clearly not on Thor’s same side nor trusted. Betrayal is a break of trust from someone you believed on your side. An enemy doesn’t betray you, a friend does, and Thor stated he doesn’t view anymore Loki as his brother. We also know the action was a miscalculation on his part, he thought Kurse was merely a Marauder, a pirate, not a Dark Elf part of a Dark Elves’ invasion, and he didn’t think it would end up causing Frigga’s death, just some troubles for his father and brother who cast him in that cell and, according to the novelization, he was meant to end up regretting it short after doing it.

“The east stairs lead to the barraks. You’ll find them mostly unguarded.” Loki said and Kurse nodded, then continued on, glad for the inside information. Loki wanted revenge against Thor and Odin – he just hoped that he wasn’t getting more than he hoped for. [“Thor: The Dark World Junior Novelization”]

More explosions occurred aboveground and Loki glanced upward. “Don’t you think you ought to look into that?” he said. Thor scowled at his brother, then strode off toward the stairs. Loki watched his brother leave, a hint of guilt in his eyes. What had he done? [“Thor: The Dark World Junior Novelization”]

So okay, if we count the fact he let Thor believe him he died, and that he was Odin, we’ve a total of 2.

Which leads us to the amazing number of 6.

Now okay, betraying 1 time is 1 time too much but this is not a pattern that pervaded his whole life, this is 2 days in which Loki was not in his right mind due to pain (“Thor”) and a day in which he wanted to avoid being jailed for life as Thor has promised him he would be once they were to get back (“Thor: The Dark World”).

But, but, but, didn’t Loki betrayed and attempted to murder Thor PRIOR to “Thor”? And why aren’t I considering “Thor: Ragnarok” at all?

I mean, in addition to Loki betraying Thor for money, there’s this bit in “Thor: Ragnarok”:

Banner: Okay, can I just... A quick FYI, I was just talking to him just a couple minutes ago and he was totally ready to kill any of us.

Valkyrie: He did try to kill me.

Thor: Yes, me too. On many, many occasions. There was one time when we were children, he transformed himself into a snake, and he knows that I love snakes. So, I went to pick up the snake to admire it and he transformed back into himself and he was like, "Yeah, it's me!" And he stabbed me. We were eight at the time. [“Thor – Ragnarok”]

But the problem is to quote Wanda in“WandaVision” when her ‘brother’ talks about their shared childhood, this sort of relationship, well, ‘That’s not exactly how I remember it.’ From the previous movies, interviews, books, novels and extra material, I mean.

But let’s start with order.

So “Thor: Ragnarok”.

Remember Eric Pearson, the guy whose quote I used to start all this?

For start this guy never worked on a script with Thor and Loki previously.

The most he did was to be involved in the ���Marvel's The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week” in which Thor and Loki have some cameo appearances.

So let’s hear what he has to say about Thor and Loki’s relation.

“For introductions, working on Thor’s voice was really great just because Hemsworth is great with the script. He actually pulled me aside one morning to talk to me about the Thor and Loki scenes. He pointed out, correctly so, that what I had was retreading a bit of what had already happened in Thor, Thor: The Dark World and The Avengers. We needed to have their relationship exhibit the amount of awareness that it should have after the audience spent so much time with them on screen. So, the Thor and Loki stuff is also some of my favorite.” [A Talk With THOR: RAGNAROK’s Eric Pearson]

So Hemsworth informed his opinion and which opinion has Chris Hemsworth of the whole matter?

Well, his opinion on Thor’s relationship with Loki evolved as time went by… but FIRST let’s focus on how he believed it was their relationship during or prior the “Thor” movie.

“In the very first film Loki and Thor as brothers had a friendship where there was less hatred involved.” [Chris Hemsworth (Thor: The Dark World)]

It’s not terribly explicative but let’s say that they were more or less friends? So his brother wasn’t trying to murder him from childhood? He wasn’t betraying him from childhood?

According to Thom Hiddleston definitely not.

“I think Loki grows up with an older brother who he loves and respects. They play, they banter and they bash each other about, but there is a latent jealousy. Craig Kyle ‐ one of our producers ‐ always used to talk about the analogy of the quarterback and the artist. Thor is the quarterback. He’s a chip off the old block and he’s just like his dad. Loki’s problem is, maybe not his problem, but [that] he’s more drawn to the powers of intellect, magic, and the dark arts. He’s not going to be out in the fields throwing a hammer around. That’s just not where his passion lies. There’s a disconnect with Odin and there’s a disconnect with Thor. He loves them very much, but he’s not just made of the same stalk. In the course of the film there’s a big reveal both for Loki and the audience about the truth of Loki’s true lineage and who his real parents are. I think that begets any jealous that was within him towards Thor develops into a dark, cancerous rage that then becomes a destructive rage.” [“Tom Hiddleston Talks the Love-Hate of Loki and ‘Thor’”]

And the ruining of the coronation? As the movie itself said it was done because he didn’t believe his brother was ready to rule… but let’s also read this bit always from Tom Hiddleston.

“He’s certainly not an anarchist who wants to burn the house down. I think he has an inner conviction. He loves a practical joke, he loves mischief and he loves playing around. He loves starting a bonfire in the next room and hearing people scream, but nobody would be killed.” [“Tom Hiddleston Talks the Love-Hate of Loki and ‘Thor’”]

In short it wasn’t meant to cause any serious harm... same as warning his father was meant to save them. Of the 4 times in “Thor” in which Loki betrays Thor, 2 are not done with evil intentions in mind.

But maybe it’s just Tom Hiddleston?

Nope, we’ve the booklet “Thor: heroes and villains” agree with this.

“Loki is often the voice of reason to Thor’s impulsiveness and is usually relied on to talk his older brother out of sticky situation.” [“Thor: heroes and villains”]

“As Odin’s younger son, Loki has always known the throne of Asgard will never belong to him. He has, however, tried his best to be a good brother to Thor and a son Odin could be proud of.” [“Thor: heroes and villains”]

Then we’ve this in the “Thor” movie:

Sif: He may speak of the good of Asgard, but he's always been jealous of Thor.

Volstagg: We should be grateful to him, he saved our lives.

Hogun: Laufey said there were traitors in the House of Odin. A master of magic could bring three Jotuns into Asgard.

Fandral: Loki's always been one for mischief, but you're talking about something else entirely. [“Thor”]

The group suspects Loki wants to hand Asgard to the Jotuns, but up till the end of the movie Loki will have Asgard’s best interests in mind. His way to pursue them though, by destroying the Jotuns, is beyond ruthless but it’s not traitorous toward Asgard.

Also they’ve nothing against him beyond the fact he was jealous of Thor. They mention no stabbing episode, no murdering attempt no previous betrayal. Loki was jealous and they fear this had caused him to do something extreme. NOW. They’ve nothing they can use against him from the past, their suspects are based on Loki’s jealousy, the fact he’s a wizard and Laufey’s words.

Even the “Thor” novelization, which discusses their relation, doesn’t mention murder attempts prior to the Destroyer thing.

From Thor’s point of view:

“His younger brother has always been something of a mystery to him. While Thor had been eager to spread his wings, fight in battles, and go off on grand adventures, Loki had always been more hesitant. True, he had Thor’s back, but it was often only out of necessity.” [“Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase One: Thor”]

From Loki’s point of view:

“Why did he always seem to get into trouble because of his older brother? Wasn’t he supposed to be the wiser one? Odin has expressly forbidden that they enter Jotunheim. Yet it wasn’t the first time Thor had done something reckless. And it wouldn’t be the first time Loki was powerless to stop him.” [“Marvel Cinematic Universe Phase One: Thor”]

Loki had Thor’s back, albeit he wasn’t happy about it, Thor is the one who causes troubles, everyone knows and in the novel Loki is regularly sent by Sif and the Warriors Three to calm Thor down and make him think.

Long story short Thor and Loki seemed to be originally planned to have a relationship similar to the one they had in “Thor - Tales of Asgard” direct-to-video animated superhero film which came out in the same year as “Thor”.

So, why somehow in “Thor: Ragnarok” it morphed into the one they have in the comics “Thor: Son of Asgard” (2004) if not worse?

Well, somehow Hemsworth’s feelings shifted along the way between “Thor: The Dark World” and “Thor: Ragnarok”. He was aware of how Loki and Thor’s relationship was portrayed in the comics and this bits fits with how in “Thor: Ragnarok” he just wants to tell Loki he didn’t care anymore.

I mean I can’t say too much but I think in the comic books, you kind of roll your eyes sometimes at the amount of times that they’re back to being best friends so we wanted to keep in mind that he did just try to kill you for the seventh time, and Earth and millions of people and what have you, so… [Chris Hemsworth Talks Expanding Beyond Asgard, Building to THE AVENGERS 2, and More on the Set of THOR: THE DARK WORLD]

Without giving too much away, I didn't want to repeat that relationship either. And Tom felt the same. All of us were like, ‘What can we do again here?’ There’s a bit of reversal as far as... In the first films, a lot of the time you’re seeing Thor going, 'Come back Loki, and da-da-da-da.' [But now] there’s a feeling from Thor that’s just like, 'You know what, kid? Do what you want. You’re a screw up. So whatever. Do your thing.' [Chris Hemsworth ‘Thor: Ragnarok’, Embracing the Comedy, the Thor/Loki Relationship and More]

"Ahhh, he's like the girlfriend you break up with and they don't get the message. Like, 'You're dead, sorry, it's over,' and they're coming round to hang the new drapes. "The most poignant moments (of Thor's movies) have been with Loki." [Avengers 4 Endgame: Is Loki ALIVE? Chris Hemsworth gave a massive hint at London fan event]

Until we get to “Avengers: Infinity War” in which he makes clear he believes Loki fooled him time and time again so that he doesn’t want him back…

While the cast share an obvious camaraderie, a void remains after Tom Hiddleston’s Loki died in Infinity War. Would Hemsworth bring back his troublesome onscreen brother if he could? “No. Why would I do that?” he answers, blankly. “He fooled me time and time again. But on the personal side, I was with Tom since the beginning of this journey and I learned a lot from him.” Hemsworth pauses. “If you’re asking if Thor would bring him back, I think if he could have done he would have. But for me, I don’t know.” [Avengers stars reveal one big downside to the job]

…even if Thor would have (and of course he would have if we’ve to believe Thor’s tears in “Avengers: Infinity War” and his depression in “Avengers: Endgame” are due to Loki’s death and it’s not merely due to how ‘fun’ it is to have a depressed Thor who ends up neglecting his health by drinking too much and getting fat… because being a source of amusement isn’t really a reason why you should introduce a depressed character in a story).

So yes, maybe Pearson didn’t go to the right source of info for Thor and Loki’s relationship.

However, credits when it’s due, the scene about Loki wanting to kill Thor from childhood is not so much due to Pearson or Hemsworth but due to Waititi.

Hewitt: You know, there’s another moment I love, when they have the little huddle about Loki, and he tells the story about how Loki turned into a snake.

Waititi: Yeah, yeah.

Hewitt: And that felt improv’d.

Waititi: Yeah, there was basically- what we did about six different versions of that story, and that was just us standing around, while the cameras are rolling, while I would just feed them lines, and feed Chris ideas for some stories. I was, “Oh, do one, this one, um, say, “I was walking through a field, and I saw a lovely Turkish rug in the middle of the grass, and I love Turkish rugs, so I went to stand on it, and it was Loki, and he turned back into Loki, and it was a hole, and I fell through the hole, and was impaled in the hole, full of spikes”.”

Hewitt: *laughs*

Waititi: As I did all versions of that and I just kept going with- Yeah, the one with the snake just turned out to be the one we used. [Taika Waititi On Screenwriting: An Empire 30th Anniversary Special]

And so how did Waititi envisioned the Thor-Loki dynamics? This is how Waititi describes Thor’s live:

“To be perfectly honest, he’s a rich kid who lives in a castle in outer space. I don’t know any of those people, but I do know people who come from dysfunctional families. He barely talks to his parents — well, his mom’s dead now — his brother is trying to kill him his entire life, and he’s supposed to be king, and he doesn’t want to be a king. A lot of it is also this father-son relationship stuff of him trying to prove himself, or trying to find his own identity, and I really relate to that. My dad was a very big personality in New Zealand and in our area, and I’ve always been trying to do my own thing to separate from him, while at the same time trying to impress him. Which is the story of pretty much all guys, and probably most girls, who are choosing a parent to impress. That was my way in with him.” [“How Taika Waititi Made Thor: Ragnarok So Damn Funny”]

Why Waititi came up with such an idea for their dynamics is up to everyone’s speculation because in itself it’s not important if he actually got told about it by Hemsworth, Pearson or by Brad Winderbaum, who admitted taking inspiration from the comics for “Thor – Ragnarok”…

“I'll tell you the three things we looked at the most. We're pulling a lot stylistically from Kirby [but] we're also looking at the Walt Simonson Ragnarok arc [and]… God of Thunder, the Jason Aaron book.” [How 'Thor: Ragnarok' Honors & Deviates from Its Comics Foundation]

… if this is the result of that 1 short comic he read…

“That’s a thing about me, guys, I did not do my research.” … “I read one issue of Thor as my research. Not even a graphic novel, it was one of the thin-thin ones.” … “And by the end of it, “Hm, well, we’re not doing that”. [Empire Podcast Spoiler Special: Thor: Ragnarok with Taika Waititi]

Waititi wanted to do his own story, not a continuation of the previous movies.

“I was lucky enough they didn’t force me to acknowledge things- there were certain things in the film, like the play, which makes fun of the scene in The Dark World where Loki dies, but there’s a point to that play, sort of to recap what happened, but also to tell the audience, “This is not what you think it’s going to be, this film is not going to be a continuation of that. It’s its own thing, and what you think you expect from this film ends at this play.”” [Empire Podcast Spoiler Special: Thor: Ragnarok with Taika Waititi]

This is not the point where I discuss what I think of this idea of stepping all over the previous movies to create a ‘new Thor’ that the Russo brothers proceeded to dismantle in the next movie.

In 2010 Feige was already on board with the idea ‘the movie comes first’ and the ‘connective tissue’ is fun and very important if you want it to be.

“It's never been done before and that's kind of the spirit everybody's taking it in. The other filmmakers aren't used to getting actors from other movies that other filmmakers have cast, certain plot lines that are connected or certain locations that are connected but I think for the most part, in fact, entirely everyone was on board for it and thinks that its fun. Primarily because we've always remained consistent saying that the movie that we are making comes first. All of the connective tissue, all of that stuff is fun and is going to be very important if you want it to be. If the fans want to look further and find connections than they're there. There are a few big ones obviously, that hopefully the mainstream audience will able to follow as well. But the most important thing and I think the reason that all the filmmakers are on board is that their movies need to stand on their own. They need to have a fresh vision, a unique tone and the fact that they can interconnect if you want to follow those breadcrumbs is a bonus.” [Kevin Fiege Talks Iron Man 2, The Avengers and More]

“Thor – Ragnarok” merely took it to an extreme, retconning a lot from the original to the point some feel “Thor – Ragnarok” is a parallel universe compared to the previous 4 movies, with its own canon.

So when they needed a joke they didn’t bother checking the previous canon, they just needed a joke and so they added that scene, and it somehow got so popular it got referenced in two novels, sorta, even if in both gets ‘adapted’.

Once he was in the room, the servant girl would likely go unnoticed enough to eavesdrop – certainly less noticed than a snake, which had been his initial plan, and which was easier to imitate than an Asgardian. But snakes tended to gather attention – Thor would pick up any serpent to admire it. [“Loki- Where mischief lies”]

In “Loki – Where mischief lies” by Mackenzi Lee the stabbing isn’t included, the book only keep Thor’s fascination for snakes and his habit to pick them up… but the scene couldn’t have happened when they were children as Loki is a teen in the book and has learnt only recently to use shapeshifting magic.

In “The pirate angel, the talking tree and captain rabbit” by Steve Behling the scene is partially retconned as well.

Where in the movie is played as a clear murder attempt in the book we’ve the same story but in a different contest.

“Hey, what did I tell you about insulting our guest?” Rocket scolded, shaking his head. “If anyone’s gonna do any insulting around here, it’s gonna be me.”

Groot looked at Rocket, and enacted an impressive-albeit obnoxious-imitation of the same sneet that Rocket used on Thor just few second earlier.

“I am-“

“Don’t finish that sentence,” Rocket warned.

“Gr-“

“I mean it! You wanna have tablet privileges revocked for a week, you go right ahead and finish that though.”

If Groot had pockets, he would have showed his limbs stubbornly into them, turned around grumbling, and walked away. As it was, he didn’t, so after a moment’s stare-off with Rocket he simply muttered, “I am Groot,” then ambled away.

“He’s in an awkward phase,” Rocket said to Thor by way of explanation, turning his attention to the master control panel.

“Adolescence is never easy,” Thor said looking over Rocket’s shoulder. “I remember when Loki and I were children. Loki transformed himself into a snake, and because I really, really love snake, I went to pick it up. But the moment I did, the snake transformed back into Loki, and then he stabbed me.”

It was at least ten second before Rocket spoke. And when he finally did, he sighed and said, “Why do I have the feeling you tell this story a lot? Like, A LOT.”

Thor smiled wanly. “Maybe a few times,” he acknowledged.

“I bet this Loki gets a big kick out of it every time you tell it,” Rocket said, chuckling.

The thin smile on Thor’s face quickly fell.

“Not anymore,” were the only words Thor could manage before he turned away. [“The pirate angel, the talking tree and captain rabbit”]

While in “Thor: Ragnarok” this story seems to be a proof Loki is an homicidal maniac because it’s compared to him wanting to kill Banner and Valkyrie and therefore, despite the idea this is a joke, make the whole matter a serious business, here Loki’s actions are compared to the ones of a teenager tree wanting to insult someone else and being told not to. It seems one of those stupid things little kids do in anger, or thinking it’s just a game, without really understanding the consequences they could have (=killing someone). Thor seems to almost brag about it, as if it was a funny childhood tale about the idiotic things they did as kids, not a cautious tale against his brother and the risks of trusting him.

It’s still a story that’s clearly out of character for how Loki was meant to be PRIOR to “Thor”, but at least now it’s better inserted in the contest and can fit vaguely more with the previous canon.

But whatever, that’s it.

So, in a way, we’ve two universes, one is the Pre-Ragnarok one, in which Loki prior to Thor loved his brother and had a good relation with him, and the other is the Ragnarok one, in which Loki wanted him dead from childhood.

Both exist.

It’s something a part of the fandom is well aware of, but also something another part of the fandom is ABSOLUTELY unaware of.

I’m not going to tell you which universe you’ve to favour, if the one in which Loki loved Thor or the one in which he wanted him dead, that’s up to your personal preference.

But if you’re among the many who’re still confused about why the fandom has split opinions about the relationship between the brothers… well, that’s a summary of the history behind it all.

Honestly, with the incoming “Thor – Love and Thunder” and “Loki” series, I’ve no idea what will be the future of it all. Waititi will probably want to go back to his “Thor – Ragnarok” continuity… unless he wants to reinvent Thor all over again so we’ll get another additional universe for Strange to enjoy in his upcoming “Doctor Strange in the multiverse of madness”… in addition to the universes created in “Avengers – Endgame” when the characters changed the past and the ones Loki will be creating in “Loki”.

Sorry, Doctor Strange, I guess you’ll have your hands full.

[lunarspiral1127]

Okay, I’ve seen a bunch of posts from the anti side saying that Wanda is a nazi. I’m assuming it’s because she joined Hydra. So, no hate here, I’m just confused here.

But, in the prelude comic for Age of Ultron, didn’t she and Pietro not know that the people who offered them power were from Hydra? Granted, she could read minds, so she could’ve read the minds of Strucker and the scientists that experimented on the twins. But, then, wouldn’t they tried to find a way to escape before the Avengers came in to raid the Hydra base? Maybe they couldn’t escape?

[titaniasfics]

Just Posted: You Asked Me To Stay, Chapter 9

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I decided to create a mood board for You Asked Me To Stay. I won't actually include anything from the show, WandaVision in the fic but let's face it, living together as a normal married couple eventually becomes their dream and I like that particular edit (If someone knows who it belongs to, I will credit the artist).

Anyhoo Chapter 9 is up and it's Vision's POV. If you like a slow burn, this could be for you.

Excerpt:

“This is a much more formal arrangement than we have been accustomed to until now,” Vision says. Wanda insists on linen instead of paper napkins, glasses instead of plastic cups, and actual place settings, unlike the buffet presentation of the previous team meals.

“That’s because we are here to impress,” Wanda says, wrinkling her nose. “And to silence the critics. Right, boys?” She glares past Vision at Rhodey and Sam, who are doing a terrible job of spying around the edge of the door jamb.

“Hey, Vision, love the apron.” Sam chuckles as he says this.

Wanda scowls. She had been nervous when she unveiled her Etsy purchase. Matched to his dark grey slacks and black sweater, the apron is stylish and even of high quality, but she had blushed the entire time while trying to explain what the phrase All this..and I cook meant.

“It protects the sweater,” Vision explains.

“What are you doing here, anyway?” Wanda interjects.

“Just mentally preparing myself to meet my fate,” Rhodey answers.

A snarl rumbles in Wanda’s throat, sending Rhodey and Sam scrambling from the doorway.