#advs timeline: 2005

[koushirouizumi]

Meanwhile with DigiAdvs O.C. Shane [...and some other 02 O.C.s]

Sometime before the initial "battle" with a strong enemy involving their friend, O.C. Shane is Drifting in Digital Limbo when...: GoldVmon: Oh, wow! There's another HUMAN here! SHANE: SHANE'S MON: GoldVmon: Wow, I thought I was truly a goner! Hey, you two, do you know how I can get back to my Partner?? Her name is "Hikaru"-- S H A N E: SHANE: YOU know Hikaru?? (I knew she had a 'Mon similar to this but I didn't see him up close...) *You're* her Par--?? GoldVmon interrupting: YUP!! But I can't talk now, there's a SUPER HUGE FIGHT going on and I NEED to GET BACK There *before* Hikaru gets hurt--!! SHANE, LOOKING at Shane's Mon: (DO SOMETHING) SHANE'S MON: I said before, this is akin to "Limbo", even if Not Quite... SHANE: (UGH) GoldVmon: ...Huh?? We can't get back from here--? Wait, how do YOU know Hikaru--? (*BLINK*) Wait. GoldVmon: (*BLINKING*) NO WAY S H A N E: GoldVmon: SHANE?!?? Shane: (He finally 'recognized' me.) {Somewhat...} GoldVmon: Huh?? Shane? But we last saw you way back at Hikaru's old place before she moved to Odaiba!! And you were... (*looks Shane up & down*) Not like THIS then?? (I didn't actually get to Talk to Shane much, and me and SilVmon only really noticed him *near the end*, but!!) SHANE, FLOATING IN PLACE: Shane: ... Uhhh, a lot of Things happened. Shane: (He doesn't Know I Was part 'Digital' That Time, Too, And I Was Just Posing *As If I Was* Physical because I wanted to Mess With "Daisuke" A Little.) Shane: Anyway, how did YOU Get... here...?? GoldVmon: ..Uhhhh, I kinda got deleted, I think--?? SHANE & SHANE'S MON: Shane: You got KILLED?? By who?!?? GoldVmon: It doesn't matter, he didn't mean it! He's Hikaru's friend on our team, but it wasn't his fault--!! (*attempting in vain to Explain while Heated & Genuinely Emotional*) SHANE: ... ... ("HE"??) Shane's Mon: (Another boy Hikaru knows, hmm...) SHANE, Glowering: . .I'm gonna--- GoldVmon, realizing mistake in Telling: Wait, no!! Shane's Mon: You're going to 'what', Exactly? You're completely Digital yourself right now, with absolutely no (major) control over your own movements except "drift forward" (continuously) or "backward" (unexpectedly) and "pause while floating in place". S H A N E: ...You don't have to be THAT Specific... GoldVmon, Confuse: ...What happened to YOU, anyway?! We thought your group was *back at* Hikaru's old place! Shane: (How Do I Explain I Vanished Years Prior---) Shane's Mon: (This is going to Take a While.) SHANE: (...) (Wait.) S H A N E: (If *THIS ONE* is Here, and got KILLED, actually Killed then that means *I*---???) Shane's Mon: (A long, long while...)

[digitalgate02]

The UPDATED (OG) Adventure universe’s Partnership double year math count

Updated Digimon Adventure OG Timeline’s Partnership Math Count List 

Not particularly spoilers from the movie, just stuff stated by the official timeline from the pre-release stream for the movie in Japan (Oct 26)

Early 80s - Oikawa Yukio & Hida Hiroki make the first contact with the Digital World, befriend Pipimon (no partnerships)

1995 - Hikari and Taichi find a Koromon egg* (no partnerships)

1996 - 2 (Rui; someone else gets a digimon later in that year*)

1997 - 4 (Menoa)

1998 - 8 (Possibly the previous 5 mentioned from Adv’99 anime/novels)

1999 - 16 (Adv Eight, Meiko*)

2000 - 32 (Ken*)

2001 - 64 (Michael)

2002 - 128 (Daisuke, Miyako, Iori)

2003 - 256

2004 - 512

2005 - 1,024

2006 - 2,048

2007 - 4,096

2008 - 8,192

2009 - 16,384

2010 - 32,768

2011 - 65,536

2012 - 131,072

2013 - 262,144

2014 - 524,288

2015 - 1.048,576

2016 - 2.097,152

2017 - 4.194,304

2018 - 8.388,608

2019 - 16.777,216

2020 - 33.554,432

2021 - 67.108,864

2022 - 134.217,728

2023 - 268.435,456

2024 - 536.870,912

2025 - 1.073.741,824

2026 - 2.147.483,648

2027 -  4.294.967,296

2028 (02 Epilogue) - 8.589.934,592

↓ Original notes + "Why there's still no retcon of the lore" below ↓

First, the OG notes from the outdated post:

→ This count is not about “which was the very first digimon-human contact”, and yes about people with a digivice. Because if we were going to count who was the first human to have contact with a digimon, it’s actually two and they’re Oikawa Yukio and Iori’s dad, Hida Hiroki.

→ I’m ignoring all the inconsistencies with other material (WS & ▽) because they seem to not match well with the original count. So, in this case, Ken’s statement in the anime (Aug 2000) is the one to be accounted for here. I don’t know if Ryo counts as Chosen (possibly yes, judging by 02 flashbacks) but I’m not sure where to place him here.

→ I’m only adding Michael to the count, even if he’s not a main character and yes a side character, because 02 ep 14 had this statement regarding him. And I like Michael too so, let me have him there :V

→ Menoa states in the movie she met Morphomon when she was nine, and according to the Dash X novel version, she’s the same age as Taichi. Which means she became a Chosen in 1997.

→ I couldn’t think of how to include Maki & Daigo’s group in this because ▽ contradicts with the original lore’s math – The fact the Pt4 book released with the movie on Japanese theaters state them being in Elementary School the time they went to their adventure in the DW, and later the confession scene means they’re in University/College makes them possibly been Chosen Children way before 1995, and I’d take it granted that they were chosen by someone else IF weren’t for the Homeostasis being involved in the scene and the digivice being way too modern for that time (it was basically Taichi group’s model. If you look at Rui’s digivice in the leaked footage from DigiFes2022, his model seems to be different and an older version)

→ That said, Meiko is the only character in ▽ that does not fall into contradiction with the math count. Because in 1999 there was not only Taichi’s group, but also other 8 non-featured Chosen according to Kakudou’s notes. So we can consider Meiko one of those other 8 children.

→ When it comes to Wallace, I prefer to think he is game in the original math – Taichi and Hikari met that Koromon in 95, but they had no digivice until 1999. Which means it can be possible that Wallace had encountered Gummy-Choco’s egg before 1995 and only became an official Chosen Child later.

Now, the new notes:

→ To avoid spoiling any detail about the movie itself, I’ll make sure to tell you they might have changed how the math works only. It’s not like, “everyone gets a digimon at the same time” but rather… “A X number of people get partnered with a digimon in different periods of a year” – Which means yes, you can still count Rui and Ukkomon as the origins of the Digimon partnership, but that later in the same year someone else (or, say, Wallace in the main timeline) got a partner months later.

→ That said, I’m opting to update this list and work within the idea that various sources of partnership (Homeostasis, Holy Beasts, etc) can be counted in the math. Remember – Homeostasis (not referred to as this in the OG series but yes in the novels) had selected Taichi & co., but the Holy Beasts chose Dai-Miya-Iori. And some other entity probably chose Ken in August 2000. This could explain why there’s a higher number of partnerships happening at the same time in Adv’99 and 02.

→ As I mentioned before, and indirectly supported by the staff (check the official timeline at the top of the list), ▽ has violated the lore to the point it goes in direct conflict with the new 02 movie and the entire timeline. So I guess it’s better to consider ▽ as its own timeline/Alternate universe than forcing it into the main timeline.

→ That said, and since Meiko does exist in Kizuna/main timeline, I suppose Maki and Daigo also do exist, and maybe they got their “ages” retconned and down to something suitable to the universe’s math count. They can still be part of the previous five kids mentioned in Adv’99 anime/novels, but they are probably around their teen years, or even early 20s instead, not fully adults working for the government I suppose. Or alternatively, just not Chosen yet. Pick your favorite route, Maki/Daigo fans!!

→ Yes, the Koromon from the very first movie IS NOT THE SAME PARTNERED WITH TAICHI. This never was confirmed, and was just fandom's theory. Considering how ▽ also made this mistake and possibly was one of the lore's violation, I prefer to believe this means it's not the same Koromon/Agumon partnered with Taichi in Adv'99.

[digimonadventurezero]

Well...

Not sure how many people are still following this blog, or rather who's still interested on those headcanons + ideas i had in the past...

But Rui's existence goes against ▽ events and i'd like to clarify that i don't think it's a TOTAL RETCON like a ton of people are either celebrating or complaining.

I'd like to give you my own "solution" to keep Maki and Daigo + their group existing in the timeline.

First, the frustrating part about working with ▽ events and them is that there's no information about their respective ages, and we saw them in Uni as well. A friend of mine pointed this out as the biggest problem to use ▽ as it is. You either pick it or 02TB. My research about the said backstory scenes in pt4 led me to discover that... those scenes also are hard to know when they take place.

Not even the ref sheets has a single age or grad to get an approximated age for them, or when those scenes took place. They only state that those two designs are from "Elementary School" and "University" -- but the Elementary grades are not even here!? Unlike the Adv'99 & 02 kids' profiles in their respective series, which listed at least their school grades so you could know they're around their 10s.

But we know the original lore from Adv'99 + 02 -- there were other groups before Taichi & Daisuke's. One of them were depicted in Adv'99 anime and novel -- a group of five kids, and four of them got their partners evolved into the Holy Beasts (according to the Adv'99 novel). This is also used in ▽ pt4, at least. They changed a few details alas, but my point is... Until here it's everything OKAY, right?

The problem starts with the Uni scene and them being Data Bureau agents in 2005. It could mean they're way older than Taichi -- including Rui (who's a leap baby from 1992!) and this would get in conflict with their own Digi-Adventure flashbacks. Many people believed they weren't from the 90s but before the 90s because of that. You could then think they had no relation to the math lore or something, but then the presence of Homeostasis in that cold-opening for pt4 and the digivice model makes things EVEN WORSE to work with.

But like i said, i love both Maki-Daigo and Rui so i want them to co-exist. Hence why i'm believing in a partial retcon in terms of those two's ages. And it's quite recently that we all got more info about the math lore, and more confusing statements in the end...

Anyway, my solution is:

Maki-Daigo's group is indeed the quintet mentioned in Adv'99 & Novels. They were around Adv!Taichi's age when they went to the DW but possibly the other three in the group were either 2 or 3 years older. Maybe they're like the 02 kids, and weren't chosen exactly in the same year? Possibly the oldies were the other 3 who got mons alongside Menoa (she's the same age as Taichi and got her mon in 97), But Daigo and Maki got their mons in 98, alongside other 7 people...? And their Adventure was indeed in 1998.

Daigo's love confession scene has no calendars or anything to point the year he had confessed his love for her, besides being SNOWING outside -- so it's probably Winter. They're said to be Uni students, so my conclusion is...

... That the Data Bureau possibly recruited them around that time, and they're not even in their 30s in ▽? They might be even 19 years old, and only got high roles in the Data Bureau because of their title as Chosen Children and connection with Homeo + Gennai.

They aren't the first ones, but actually they might be the first group of kids who went to the DW instead.

This is my own solution for the problem. Again, I'd prefer to believe in a soft retcon or changes from the events -- in which said events in the timeline weren't presented as it is to us. Therefore i'd prefer to believe my awful people OTP is still alive and they can meet my sad potato someday.

I'd like to simple just retcon their ages from 1998 adventure and make them be 13-14 years old there, so then you could have them be in their twenties when they were recruited by the Data Bureau...

Anyway, i understand when some peeps say they can't make ▽ work with Adv'99/02/Kizuna/02TB as it was presented to the audience, because it's a hard task orz

[koushirouizumi]

Meanwhile with DigiAdvs 02 [...and some O.C.s]

Inter-national O.C. Chosen Shane, some night after having been 'revived' from being partly 'Digital', finally having gotten back on their feet but is now... trying to figure out how to sleep: ... SHANE on the other side of Daisuke + Ken in the bed: ... DAISUKE: ... (Is pretty much dead asleep) KEN: ... (Is sleeping Calmly) SHANE, AWAKE: (... This is Awkward.) DAISUKE & KEN: ... (Snoozing. For a long while.) SHANE Lying Awake: (Ugh) DAISUKE, SUDDENLY FLOPPING TO LAND WITH A LEG HALF IN FRONT OF SHANE'S FACE: SHANE: SHANE: (I'll wake you up myself if I have to.) DAISUKE: ... SHANE, Nudging Daisuke's leg: (...Or I'll just move you.) Daisuke, Is Moved: Shane, starting to get up from the bed: (Maybe I'll just... sit out in the living area for a while.) The next morning, Daisuke wakes up & doesn't automatically see Shane: Huh??? SHANE, was awake playing one of the games they're always playing all night: What. DAISUKE: DAISUKE: ... (I kept Shane up.) DAISUKE: Uhhh... you can have... the bed.... Shane: ... Thanks. (Quickly disappears into room.) Ken: (At least you didn't cling to Shane in your sleep.) DAISUKE, GROANING: (I still feel bad though!!) SHANE, continues to sleep during the early-middle part of the day regardless of What Goes On During Each Following Night: (My sleep schedule will never be fixed, but I didn't expect it to be.) Ken: (Honestly, I'm surprised Shane lasted that long, but at least I'm *used to* Daisuke's tossing and ... clinging.) DAISUKE: (KENNNNN---)

[koushirouizumi]

REPEATVERSE Standalone: Ten

Title: Ten Type: Fanfiction / Shortfic / Not-quite Drabble Wordcount: 502 words Genre: Angst {maybe with an outcome aiming towards better but} Characters/Pairing: Taishiro [Taichi x Koushiro] {implied/referenced} [from Koushiro’s side]; Koushiro & Daisuke friendship Verse(s): Post-Advs/02 (can also be post-Tri/Kizuna) Rating: PG-15ish / it’s s.f.w, but {implied/psuedo} injuries are referenced, heed warnings please Notes: some Specific Headcanons are heavily implied technically part of REPEAT?_Verse, ( ficverse version here ); - it can be read as a standalone fic - it can be read as an AU and/or spinoff of the main REPEATVerse; - or as its own standalone AU/spinoff Summary: “...Can you turn around and--- - it's April 2004. (..Or is it April 2003? Spring 2003?) - at the end of Spring 2003, something else astonishing occurred: Daisuke's sister Jun, the Inoue sisters, & Shuu Kido all became Chosen at once. - an incident, (occured, and then) ---

"I'll help, so we, you, can get out of here !!---"

“They {Won’t come}”

... TAICHI-SENPAI's GOGGLES ( ... Are probably absolutely unfitting for Koushiro Izumi, but .... )

... the shadowy, empty cave Seems to spread out for miles ... He opens ... his EYES " ... KOUSHIRO ?!?? " --- is --- collappsed --- before him -- " O-Oi, Koushiro, wake up!!--- " He's about to rush over to the fallen boy, WHEN --- he FREEZES --- -- in the distance ... in the distance, suddenly, a very very VERY-BAD-FEELING --- ... He stands, wincing, but, ATTEMPTING, ... spreads his arms out as wide as possible, --- SQUARES HIMSELF --- as if to " SHIELD " the other {against an UNKNOWN enemy} ... " Koushiro , " -- He tries to whisper it -- slightly louder, more HARSHLY, --- " KOUSHIRO --- " " U-Ugh.... " ...Koushiro's awake ?!?? ...Yeah, Koushiro's definitely STIRRING, BUT--- " DAISUKE...-kun...?? " " KOUSHIRO, I think we gotta RUN, " " ... or at least, MOVE , " " there seems to be ' SOMETHING ' pressing -- in, over THERE ---- " Koushiro makes a strangled kind of noise --- ... DAISUKE turns to look at him now --- in SURPRISE. " ... Koushiro, we HAVE TO---!! " " ... " ... it's only now ... he ... realizes ... KOUSHIRO'S SHIRT ... around his waist ... is matted ... with blood ... Koushiro's legs, too ---- ... completely banged up {... on top of the scarred past injuries that he already had} ... Koushiro won't be able to run ... " NO!!! " Daisuke abandons his defensive stance, RUSHES OVER --- " Koushiro, no, you CAN'T DIE on me here " " TAICHI-SENPAI will KILL ME !!! " " Hell, IORI WOULD MURDER ME --- " " I WOULD ----- " ( never forgive --- ) ... Koushiro ... opens his eyes ... gives Daisuke ... a weak smile ... clutching at the INJURY at his waist. ... where there had PREVIOUSLY already BEEN past wounds. No ... the Digimon ... the others ... where are they ? " KEN --------------- !!!!! " " V-MON --------------- !!!!! " " TAICHI-SENPAI --------------- !!!!! " ... it's a futile effort " ... they WON'T COME , " Koushiro chokes it out, quietly ... that feeling ... It’s getting ... SO MUCH WORSE " KOUSHIRO, come ON --- " --- Daisuke has moved --- ran to Koushiro --- tries to pull Koushiro's arms --- around Daisuke's own neck -- " I’LL HELP, so we, YOU, can get out of here !! --- " ... He's already moved a very slight, short distance, pulling Koushiro along with him --- ... but ... it's futile, right ? ... " ...Daisuke-kun " ... " I(t)... " ( hurts ) ... Daisuke winces ... slowly stops ... lets Koushiro off as gently ... as possible ... Koushiro haphazardly ... lies in a heap, ... gazing up ... at him [ "Take them" ] [ ... a pair ] [ ... of TAICHI-SENPAI's ----- ] [ the kind that can {SEE} DISTORTIONS ] [ ... Daisuke reaches for the goggles with SHAKING HANDS ... simultaneously tries to ... PUSH THEM AWAY ----- ] " WAIT " ... he gets an IDEA ... instead suddenly moves ... off his head, ... YANKS them off --- " YOU " " KOUSHIRO, YOU --- " " TAKE THESE ---- " ... Koushiro ... gazes up at him ---- ... Daisuke moves ... as carefully as he possibly can (albeit clumsily), ... fixes them ... onto Koushiro's own head ... TAICHI-SENPAI's GOGGLES ( ... Are probably absolutely unfitting for Koushiro Izumi, but .... ) ... Koushiro gives him ... an extremely ... gentle ... smile ... " DAISUKE-KUN " , ( " You are LIKE TAICHI " ) ( " You are DIFFERENT from Taichi, but ALSO, ‘LIKE’ --- " ) " THANK YOU , " ... it's said ... informally ... " Can you " ... " turn around " ... " and " ... " COUNT TO " " TEN " " ? " ( YAMATO-SAN, awkwardly stammering, as he talks to MOTOMIYA JUN ---- ) ( " Can you turn around and count to TEN ? " ) ... MOTOMIYA DAISUKE ... shakily ... turns around ... " One " R ... " Two " E ... " T-three --- " P [ KOUSHIRO’S FINGER SWAYS, swiftly --- ] " FOUR " E " Five " A " SIX " T " seven " ? " ei---ggght , " _ " NINE " N/Y_ " T E N " * _Y * [ DAISUKE isn't sure if he gets the chance to TURN AROUND ] [ KOUSHIRO isn't sure if HE ----- ] [ DAISUKE clenches a hand ] [ towards his head, trying to, if they're STILL THERE, FEEL ---- ] * [ " Daisuke-kun , " " ... you're kind " ] * . . . .

Notes: - it’s not quite a Bad End but it’s not exactly the best outcome either - I originally got ideas from the initial previews for Bokura no Mirai - obviously none of those happened - if it’s not obvious enough, Koushiro is basically writing a quick program to warp and Rewrite the Digital Worlds’ coding. He moves so fast/swiftly because he’s already been through numerous timelines by this point, and is either a) subconsciously aware or b) not subconsciously, but hyper-aware {depending on which ‘verse/spinoff scenarios this scene Repeats within} - thus yeah these are psuedo-deaths [non permanent]; they don’t literally die {at least Koushiro himself definitely doesn’t in this scene} - look I’m sorry but if Koushiro fell from such a height, at such a speed, into the kind of place like Taichi fell into {it’s uh kind of replaced with maybe a certain Dark Cave here except 02-style; see: Chapter 11, City}, he’d be banged up too - Koushiro may be skilled by this point but he can’t stop everything - Koushiros’ true aim is to solve the {alternative/timeline splits?} mystery that they’ve possibly got thrown into, so he has a ways to go still; along the way, he’s coming to terms mentally with his own situation while bearing the weight of it all - this bit attempts to explain the canonical timeline gap between Spring 2003 [02 drama CD] ~ April 2005 [Tri start; Saikai] - I really miss my old website / 02 fic and really just want to write Daisuke {02 fav} helping Koushiro during a high stakes moment and them both acknowledging each other[s’/strengths] in turn - I meant to post this a long time ago but {well} Yup

- for the Good End “closest to the latter” see Chapter 22; Adopted - for the best outcome of the AUs verses & most others; Chapter 33: Summertime - for the Good End post-02 AUs, Chapter 24: Scars

- In the end this bit is more of a series of AU ideas that weren’t really supposed to happen in the main timeline of the fic, but I do like to think at least some version of Koushiro came across Daisuke at some point; {especially if we’re counting in my old ficverse} [Koushiro was a major player in a similar timeloops-esque / past lives situation there too, if slightly different back then]

- this fic is not meant to “reverse” or “rewrite” tri actually, thanks. {nor is it meant to ‘rewrite’ or ‘scrap’ Tri!Koushiro or 02!Daisuke} [nor is it meant to ‘improve on their situations’ or retcon the tri ending] (it’s fine to read my stuff if you just didn’t care for tri but if you actively hate Tri!Koushiro you probably won’t like my stuff involving Tri!Koushiro. sorry)

- regardless it’s my own AUs of AUs so yeah they’re just AU spinoffs