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What happens if my Goblin Test Pilot ends up targeting my opponent’s Kopala?
When you activate Goblin Test Pilot's ability, you choose from among legal targets for its ability during the activating process. If that target happens to be Kopala or anothehr Merfolk controlled by that player, then an additional cost of 2 is imposed on the costs of the ability. You're then free to pay it (and in fact must if you have 2+ mana in your mana pool), but if you don't have the mana in your mana pool, you're not forced to generate it.
Since you then can't pay the costs to activate the ability, the entire activation is undone. You're then free to try activating the Test Pilot again. You're free to do this until the Test Pilot targets a non-Merfolk target if you like, but if you go around abusing this interaction, expect to get some sour looks from the other players in your game.
Note that this only works because Kopala actually imposes an additional cost on the ability. Something like Ward is just a triggered ability and doesn't allow these sorts of shenanigans.
#mtg#magic rules#goblin test pilot#kopala#activating abilities#paying costs#additional costs#rewinds
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How Roofing Contractors Charge for Services: A Complete Breakdown
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When hiring a roofing contractor, one of the most important factors to consider is how they charge for their services. Roofing projects can vary greatly in scope, size, and complexity, and understanding how contractors price their services can help you make an informed decision. From hourly rates to flat pricing and material costs, each contractor may use different methods for determining the cost of a job.
In this post, we will break down the common ways roofing contractors charge for their services and what you can expect, so you're better prepared for your roofing project.
1. Hourly Charges for Minor Roof Repairs
For smaller tasks or less involved projects, many roofing contractors charge an hourly rate for their labor. This pricing method is common for minor repairs, such as fixing a few leaks or replacing a few shingles. The hourly rate can vary depending on the contractor's experience, geographic location, and the complexity of the job. In general, homeowners can expect hourly rates to range from $50 to $150 per hour, though it may be higher in certain regions or for specialized work.
It’s important to clarify the estimated time the job will take to avoid unexpected costs. Ensure that the hourly rate includes all labor charges and ask if there are any additional fees for special services or tools required to complete the job.
2. Flat Rate Pricing for Larger Projects
For more extensive roofing projects, such as full roof replacements or large-scale repairs, roofing contractors typically offer flat-rate pricing. With flat-rate pricing, you will be quoted a single price for the entire job, including labor and materials. This pricing method is ideal for projects with a well-defined scope and timeline, as it helps you avoid surprise charges.
Flat-rate pricing gives homeowners certainty and predictability. However, it’s crucial to confirm what the flat rate covers before signing any contracts. Make sure to inquire whether the estimate includes things like waste disposal, roof inspections, and any additional services such as gutter or skylight installation.
3. Material Costs: A Key Factor in Total Pricing
In roofing projects, the cost of materials can make up a significant portion of the total cost. Roofing contractors typically provide a separate estimate for the materials required for the job. Common roofing materials include asphalt shingles, metal roofing, slate, and more. The material you choose will directly affect the overall cost of the project. For example, premium materials like metal or slate tend to be more expensive than traditional asphalt shingles.
Before proceeding with the job, contractors will provide a breakdown of the material costs, which should include everything from roofing shingles to underlayment and flashing. It’s also a good idea to ask if contractors charge a markup on materials or if the prices reflect the cost at their supplier’s rate.
4. Additional Costs for Special Services
Roofing projects can sometimes involve additional costs that go beyond basic labor and materials. For example, if you are scheduling Roof Repairing Services in San Antonio that require extra services such as gutter replacement, skylight installation, or attic ventilation, these services may be priced separately. Contractors typically provide a detailed estimate that outlines each service offered, so be sure to review these carefully.
Additionally, if your project requires a roof inspection or permits for work to be done, these can add to the cost. Contractors may charge for the inspection process to assess the roof’s condition before the actual work begins. Be transparent with the contractor about any additional work you might want or need, so that these costs can be accounted for in the estimate.
5. Payment Structure: Deposits and Payment Schedules
Many roofing contractors require a deposit upfront before starting the project. This deposit typically ranges from 10% to 30% of the total cost. The deposit helps secure the project and ensures that the contractor has the necessary funds to purchase materials and mobilize labor.
The remainder of the payment is usually due upon completion of the job. Depending on the size of the project, there may be multiple payment milestones throughout the process. It’s essential to discuss payment terms and ensure you fully understand the schedule. Be sure to ask if there are any financing options available, especially for larger projects, as many contractors offer payment plans that can make roof replacement or major repairs more affordable.
6. Complexity of the Roof and Site Conditions
The complexity of your roof and the site conditions can also affect the cost of roofing services. If your roof has steep slopes, multiple levels, or additional features like chimneys or skylights, it will likely increase the labor time and difficulty of the project. In such cases, contractors may charge higher rates due to the added complexity and potential safety concerns.
Conclusion:
Understanding how roofing contractors charge for their services is essential for managing your budget and expectations. Whether the contractor charges by the hour, offers flat-rate pricing, or factors in material costs, being informed about pricing structures helps you make confident decisions for your roofing project. Make sure to request a detailed estimate and confirm what the price covers to avoid hidden fees. By considering the complexity of the roof, the materials used, and any additional services required, you’ll have a clear picture of what to expect when hiring a roofing contractor for your home.
#Roof and Site Conditions#Payment Structure#Additional Costs#Material Costs#roofing contractor#roofing
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love when ppl defend the aggressive monetization of the internet with "what, do you just expect it to be free and them not make a profit???" like. yeah that would be really nice actually i would love that:)! thanks for asking
#yes i want things to be free like ??? that is not a weird desire#'but but it costs money to keep up' ok and? how is that my problem#the government has plenty of murder dollars they could reallocate a few to make internet services universal if they wanted#also these companies were perfectly capable of supporting themselves before the internet got drowned with ads so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯#edit: muting notifs on this post bc new additions have kind of petered out#so no one feel bad about adding something someone else has said‚ it is not bothering me im just trying to keep my#notifs page cleanish lol#also since i saw some people are being redirected to read my tags: firstly hiiiiii this is a special secret message for you:3#secondly i have learned since making this that the reason they were able to support themselves previously was because#of investors bankrolling everything#and theyre now finally realizing that theyre never going to actually make a profit and arent as willing to invest#however thats just a minor correction and doesnt change my overall point#once again. so many murder dollars#so thats why im just adding it here in the tags rather than making an actual correction#anyways . love yall 💕#origibberish#bigger gibbers
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Don’t think I’ll ever get over the fact that Kaz Brekker nearly shifted the economy of Ketterdam
Like if the crows managed to ruin all of Van Eck’s silos and taken out a large huge amount of the sugar supply. That’s not something that will go down anytime soon it would take years for sugar to go back to the price it was to match up with supply and demand.
This 17 year old kid who likes dogs and can never figure out how to talk to his crush. Kaz “I protect my investments” Brekker almost caused a complete disruption in the stock market and with how strongly Ketterdam is built on their economic system-
Please I need someone else who think economy is a really cool topic to understand just how much that’s insane. A 17 YEAR OLD NEARLY CAUSED A SHORTAGE OF A HIGH DEMNAD COMMODITY ITEM.
Kaz would go insane in America
#six of crows#Kaz Brekker#please guys#Kaz is insane#the price of sugar going up would cause a huge uproar in the society#this means the price of baked goods would go up#sugar just being a given to have with your coffee at a restaurant or cafe would become an additional cost#the upper class would probably buy up more sugar causing even more of a shortage for the lower class
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so for this post from ovegakart i'm imagining spell rules going along these lines...
Nayru's Shield: Level 3 Abjuration Casting Time: 1 Action Range: Self Components: V, S, M (A blessing from a Great Fairy worth 1000 rupees) Duration: Concentration, up to 1 minute The love and protection of the goddess Nayru shields you. You gain resistance to all damage for the duration. Additionally, this spell also summons a magic shield into your hand, granting the benefits of wielding a shield even if you are not proficient with shields. If you do not have a free hand, the shield does not appear, and this benefit is not granted. Finally, this spell also generates an emanation of protection around you, granting a +1 bonus to AC for any ally inside it, you excepted.
Nayru's Mirror: Level 3 Abjuration Casting Time: 1 Action Range: Self Components: V, S, M (A blessing from a Great Fairy worth 1000 rupees) Duration: Concentration, up to 1 minute The love and protection of the goddess Nayru reflects damage directed at you. You gain resistance to all damage for the duration. Additionally, creatures of your choice within 5 feet of you must make a Dexterity saving throw, taking 2d6 force damage on a failed save or half as much damage on a successful save, as shards of Nayru's protection strike them. Finally, ranged weapon attacks and ranged spell attacks that hit you are reflected off of you after dealing their damage, striking the original attacker for half their damage.
Notes: I split Nayru's Love into two spells, for Link and for Zelda. For Link: I figure this should be a hefty spell given the immense benefits it offers, but still accessible to an Eldritch Knight like Link. So I made it level 3. I'm also not sure about the concentration on it, since you can get smacked but it doesn't drop, I just wanted to make it slightly less busted by making it eat the caster's Concentration. For Zelda: More offensive, I originally thought like Armor of Agathys but re-read the handwriting and realized lol nope. So I made it so enemies who attack and hit you take the half damage that the shield stops you from eating.
Farore's Wind: Level 3 Conjuration Casting Time: 1 Action Range: Self Components: V, S, M (A blessing from a Great Fairy worth 100 rupees) Duration: Instantaneous Briefly surrounded by the divine gales of the goddess Farore, you teleport to a location within sight. Using a Higher-Level Spell Slot: You can teleport to any location you know within 1000 feet (4th level spell slot), any location you know within 5 miles (5th level spell slot), any location you know within 100 miles (6th level spell slot), or to any location you know on this plane of existence (7th level spell slot). If you cast this spell at 5th level or higher, there is a cumulative 15% chance for each level above 4th it is cast at (up to 45% with a 7th level spell slot) for a mishap to occur, sending you to a false destination. Holding or carrying an object linked to the intended destination removes this chance.
Notes: I figure the inspiration spells for this should be Misty Step (but range increased to 'anywhere within sight'), Dimension Door (range increased), and Teleport. It's a sort of catch-all spell. The only issue is that, in order to make it NOT BUSTED AS FUCK (which is already is tbh), I had to level-scale it, which seriously kneecaps Link as an Eldritch Knight. I also had to add in that a mishap can occur because even Teleport isn't perfect.
Din's Fire Level 3 Evocation Casting Time: 1 Action Range: Self Components: V, S, M (A blessing from a Great Fairy worth 300 rupees) Duration: Instantaneous An explosion of Din's holy flames blasts from you in a 20-foot emanation. Each creature in this emanation makes a Dexterity saving throw, taking 8d6 fire damage on a failed save or half as much damage on a successful one. Flammable objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried start burning. Using a Higher-Level Spell Slot: The damage increases by 1d6 for each slot level above 3.
Notes: It's Fireball as an emanation, why not.
Zelda's Light Level 3 Transmutation Casting Time: 1 Bonus Action Range: Touch Components: V, S Duration: 1 hour You touch a nonmagical weapon. Until the spell ends, that weapon becomes a magic weapon with a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls. Additionally, when a creature hits another creature with that weapon, a bright flash of light accompanies the strike. The target must make a Constitution saving throw (using the caster's spell save DC) or be blinded until the end of its next turn. This spell ends early if you cast it again. Using a Higher-Level Spell Slot. The bonus increases to +2, and the weapon deals an additional 3d6 radiant damage with a 4-6 level spell slot. The bonus increases to +3, and the weapon deals an additional 6d6 (instead of 3d6) radiant damage with a 7+ level spell slot.
Notes: It's magic weapon but added blinding and radiant.
Lens of Truth Wondrous Item, Very Rare (requires attunement) While wearing this lens over your eyes, you have Truesight with a range of 120 feet.
Notes: Should this be legendary? True Seeing is a 6th level divination spell, so maybe! I made it attunement so you can't just pass it between people for a free action or whatever and you need to know it well to use it.
BONUS POINTS (or rather, an edit)
Ocarina of Time Wondrous Item, Artifact This ocarina has been protected by the royal family of Hyrule for ages, and is said to have a powerful connection to the unnamed goddess of time. You can take a Magic action to play a song on the Ocarina of Time, with each song producing a different effect or casting a spell. You must know a song in order to play it.
Zelda's Lullaby – When you play this song, this Ocarina opens a magical lock, or has other magical effects based on other locations which specify this song. This song has no effect on nonmagical locks. Epona's Song – When you play this song, you can cast the spell Find Steed at its base level of 2. Saria's Song – When you play this song, you can cast the spell Sending. The only possible recipient of the spell when cast in this way is the Fey known as Saria. Sun's Song – When you play this song, you can cause day to become night or night to become day, depending on what time it is when you play it. The passage of this time is instantaneous to the Ocarina's player, and does not confer the benefits of a long or short rest, nor does it impose the penalties of forgoing a long rest. Song of Time – When you play this song, you can open the Door of Time or cause obstacles bearing the symbol of the goddess of time to permanently disappear. If this song is played in the realm of Termina, it has an entirely different effect: You can go back in time to a maximum of three days, although in doing so you must forfeit all ammunition (nonmagical and magical) and rupees to go back. Upon returning to the past, all magic item charges are restored, and you gain the benefits of a Long Rest. You cannot use the Song of Time again for another three days. Song of Storms – When you play this song, you can cause the weather around you to suddenly and inexplicably become intensely stormy and rainy, complete with thunder and lightning. This storm lasts for ten minutes, after which time it vanishes. Effects of the storm remain. Warp Songs – When you play any of these songs, you can cast the spell Teleportation Circle, with each song being linked to a specific circle and sending those who stand in the circle's area there: the Minuet of the Forest will send to Kokiri Forest; the Bolero of Fire will send to Death Mountain's crater; the Serenade of Water will send to Lake Hylia; the Nocturne of Shadow will send to the graveyard of Kakariko Village; the Requiem of Spirit will send to the Desert Colossus in the Gerudo Desert; and the Prelude of Light will send to the Temple of Time in Hyrule Castle Town. Scarecrow's Song – When you play this song, you magically summon a wooden scarecrow to a location you can see within 60 feet of you. The Scarecrow is a Construct with 10 HP, AC 10, a movement speed of 0 ft., and immunity to psychic and poison damage. It vanishes when you play this song again. Inverted Song of Time – When you play this song, you can cast the spell Haste on yourself. Song of Double Time – When you play this song, you can magically cause twelve hours of time to pass by. The passage of this time is instantaneous to the Ocarina's player, and does not confer the benefits of a long or short rest, nor does it impose the penalties of forgoing a long rest. Song of Healing – When you play this song, you can cast the spell Calm Emotions, with the added ability to affect any creature capable of having emotions as opposed to solely humanoids. Song of Soaring – When you play this song, you can cast the spell Dimension Door. Elegy of Emptiness – When you play this song, you can create a lifeless statue of yourself. This statue is an eerie reflection of you and weighs the same as you do. It is a Construct that has an amount of Hit Points equal to half your maximum Hit Points, your Armor Class, and it has immunity to psychic and poison damage. It is also incapable of moving on its own.
Notes: No Sonata of Awakening, Goron Lullaby, New Wave Bossa Nova, or Oath to Order because they have extremely specific purposes.
#fuck me why did i just do this#iunno! but i'm keeping it#Homebrew#D&D#edit: increased odds of a farore's wind mishap#cause reasons#edit 2: changed Din's Fire upcast benefit down to 1d6 per slot level#cause tbh 2d6 is OP#edit 3: Ocarina of Time.#edit 4: clarified the additional damage on upcasting Zelda's Light.#edit 5: clarified the material component cost on Nayru's Shield
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Wait is it legit that you're supposed to get the deluxe addition to have access to new game plus ??
#if thats the case like.... rgg go fuck yourself#the average addition is going to cost 115 dollars here deluxe is 160 or some shit
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Kaleidoscope of Death costs 28$ but with shipping to Kazakhstan it would be 63$. sigh
#i hate how international ordering to here means paying more than x2 times of the product cost#i haven't gotten a job yet and even if i get it a few weeks from now it will be late 😔#i hope they will make extras available for additional price after preorders are closed.....#mine
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I firmly believe that the solution to 99% of the problems we're facing as a society right now is Building Community
And the best part of this solution? Everyone can participate to the extent they are able/willing and it doesn't need to reach a critical mass to make a significant difference. Every community that is built, whether it's between two people or an entire town, is beneficial to all of us.
You don't need special skills to do it, you don't need to know how to organize or even be good at socializing! It can be as simple as shoveling snow from your neighbours sidewalk even if you never speak to them.
We all have skills we're good ar and enjoy, we all have resources others lack. I don't have much money but I've got endless time, for example, so a friend drops her dog off with me a couple days a week. I don't charge her because I benefit in other ways but also because it helps build community. Not asking for cash allows her to pay using resources she has more of, either to me directly (she drives me home from my hospital appointments each monday), and indirectly by helping others which further builds our community in a pay it forward sort of way.
Community uses Good Will and Favours as currency instead of money and it's the only thing that can break the back of capitalism.
Community can take a lot of up front investment to get started, and not every person you invest in will add value, but in the long run your total return investment will be more than returned to you.
#we were thinking of putting an addition onto the house for me to live in#which may habe required an engineer to sign off on#running thousands to more than ten thousand dollars in cost#but some mental health advice and the loan of my 3d printer#and occasional loan of my vehicle#meant I wouldn't have had to pay a cent for it#(we wound up going a different route but still the offer was made!)#just one example of many#offer freely of what you have in abundance#whether it be time or energy#strength or intelligence#or even money if that happens to be the resource you are most blessed with#this is something that literally every person can do#and every person that does it makes a significant positive change to the world around them#this is how we beat back the darkness#this is how we win against the corporations
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If I cast a spell without paying it's mana cost, can I cast it for alternate or additional costs? This is for a Vadrok deck if the manner in which the spell is cast matters. I just want to overload Cyclonic rift from my graveyard every turn.
Alternate costs? No.
Additional costs? Yes.
When you cast a spell without paying its mana cost, you're already paying an alternate cost of 0. Any time you're casting a spell and not paying the printed cost, that's an alternate cost and you can only ever pay one alternate cost to cast a spell.
So why can't you choose to overload Cyclonic Rift rather than casting it for free with Vadrok? That's because Vadrok's ability is what's allowing you to cast the spell at all, so you have to pay the alternate cost it dictates if you want to cast it.
Additional costs such as Kicker costs are different, however, since you can always choose to pay an additional cost for a spell no matter what cost or alternate cost you're using to cast it in the first place. You still need to pay the mana for these costs, however. For example, if you cast Jilt off of Vadrok's trigger, you can pay 1R to get the kicker effect, but you can't get it for free.
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the bg3 fanbase is funny as fuck in a bad way for primarily shipping gale, who is the most garrulous man you can imagine, with astarion, whom gale goes "uh 😐 not really looking to talk with you man" at when prompted for conversation, and not with wyll, whose party admission gets a "gale approves" and then they proceed to compliment each other 24/7.
update: i think ship wars are stupid as fuck + this is about something very different. a very notable problem not just among the general bg3 and d&d fan circles but among certain fans of this sort of fantasy genre as a whole.
#succ speaks#gale also gets approval for demanding more than apologies from astarion when meeting him. and for saying bringing him was a mistake#also disapproval for accepting astarion's apologies. and for saying you trust him. like he HATES this cunt.#whereas wyll just BEING there gets gale a 'hehe <3 yay let's help the tieflings for him'#you also get gale approval for recruiting lae'zel and karlach! literally for just doing that!! astarion is the only one who DOESN'T#the baldur's gate 3 fanbase has such the fandom first-two-whiteboys shipping brain rot spell on them plus an ignore wyll at all costs curse#get well soon like honestly this is so sad and hasn't let up since ea#which is obvious in the way the writers treated astarion with notable favor and ignored will in story development since ea#anyways. gale is super funny about being annoying so i love him for it. he's like me in that way i think. his dumbass resurrection ritual.#idk the way wyll has clear story parallels with EVERY origin character (+ halsin!) and isn't even on the ship podium is a bit hashtag irkin#i've gone into depth about that with some real life besties but that'd be like. another post or a long addition to this one.#ugh.#balding gay tree
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money doesn't buy happiness or mental stability but it is true that anxiety about concrete things is a lot easier to solve if you have money because the worst-case scenario is just... not as bad
take travelling: one time i was travelling and it turned out my accommodation booking had got lost so i arrived at the hotel to find it was booked out. an event in town meant there was no affordable accommodation nearby. if i had been alone, i don't know what i would have done, because i definitely couldn't afford to stump up the money that would be needed to find last-minute accommodation in that city. but the person i was with had a company credit card, and found me a hotel room. the larger your budget, the smaller the chances there will be nowhere you can stay
another time my flight was delayed, causing me to miss the last bus from the airport. i didn't have enough money to pay for a taxi the whole way to my destination, and my phone wasn't working well enough to let me call my accommodation and let them know i would be arriving after the normal check-in time, either. in the end my family had to transfer me extra money so i could pay for the taxi, and call the accommodation from their phone to pass on the message. if they hadn't been able to do that, i'd have been stuck in shannon airport forever (or at least until someone took pity on me) -- not great
a missed bus or a lost accommodation booking or a delayed flight or a suitcase going astray is a lot easier to deal with if the worst-case scenario is "I have to pay a bunch of money about this" vs "i am stranded with no way of getting to my destination/sleeping alone on the floor of the train station in an unfamiliar city/wearing the same clothes for a week straight with no access to my meds"
now sometimes there is no amount of money that will get you from one location to another because there simply isn't any transport and there is no amount of money that can buy things which aren't available to buy, which is why rural travel requires substantially more planning. however. it can still usually make it less miserable being stuck wherever you ended up / increase your options in general
(also, wow travel emergencies have got so much easier to deal with since roaming data, google maps, + mobile banking became a thing... so much less likely to find yourself lost and penniless, unless travelling somewhere super remote, in which case you've got bigger problems anyway)
#anyway in this situation i do theoretically have money that could solve some of these problems#it would just suck because i don't have so much money that i wasn't already worried about the cost of the trip#so adding additional costs would be a huge bummer. esp if not my own fault tbh#but the entire point of not being totally broke is sometimes you get to save yourself from being stuck in a train station overnight#brainweasel hotel#travelling
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my meds are ready at the pharmacy!!!! now i just have to. make it there. always one more step
#pajamas in public time!#fortunately my professional wear is basically pajama-adjacent so they're nice pajamas#the grocery store is in the same plaza so perhaps there is cereal in my future if i can work up some additional will#and one of those pre cut fruit party platters that cost a million dollars........ I Deserve It
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hades 2 hot take that's gonna get me probably excommunicated (underworld end boss spoilers)
the people who complain about the pause disabling feature before even finding out that an in-game way to disable it exists, hit me on the same annoyed bone spot as those who complain about the new dash 3 days into the game. They see an obstacle and the knee jerk reaction is to protest Right Now instead of framing it as a thing that might have a workaround later, either as something mechanically provided, or something they can learn over time.
I'm getting behind the request that pause enabling shouldn't be locked behind winning, but there's enough people wanting it straight up gone that I want to scream.
Accessibility should mean better availability of solutions, not removing the problem.
#hades 2#hades 2 spoilers#they should also just. be sentenced to playing jankier near-solo indie games until a suitable level of tilt-proofness has been acquired#like even a solution that appears immediately afterwards isn't fast enough they just want all barriers gone gone gone#while phrasing it as “accessibility” so it's morally harder for anyone to object to#if you want the accessibility argument then again that should be about the recipe cost not the existence#“it's not fair” you know what's not fair. Hades' own phase 2#and that is super tame by game BS standards#*random middlegame bosses* having second phases are in games like Hollow Knight or Sekiro#dying one additional time likely relatively early in a game that's based *around*#death and rebirth really should not tilt people as much as it does#not to mention all the “the game is trying to make it more Important than me”#if you have important life stuff then you can just you know. Lose the run in one of the more forgiving games in the genre????#even cult of the lamb doesn't let you pick the starting weapon and spell#this is not targeting any single person btw all these arguments I've seen multiple times
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What do you think about how most people summarize orv's themes as love. I saw one of your reblogs about how it's too simplified for other works?
my general opinion is that saying "x is about love" is usually too damn vague as an analysis. while love is not a universal emotion (shoutout to loveless aros,) it's a common enough human experience that I really think that you need to specify what ABOUT love is being explored. is this a work about the depths of love? is it about the transformative potential of love? there are a thousand different ways love can manifest, and about a billion different ways a story can offer insight on the nature of love. I think it doesn't do justice to a story if you're not specifying what exactly it has to say about love.
all that out of the way, yes. many of orv's major themes are about love. specifically, it relates the love a reader has for a story to the love that a person can have for another human being. a story, like a person, can contain depths unknown to both author and reader - it is impossible to ever reach a complete understanding. there is always some element that will be impossible to communicate. something left hidden behind a wall.
but you can love that story, that person, anyway. you can offer your own interpretations, and try to understand as best you can. and the love and effort you put in matters deeply. the way that you can affect other human beings, specifically, matters deeply. even if it seems like your efforts will never reach that person, even if they are justifiably hurt by your efforts, even if your interpretations are wrong, even if you are the sole reader of a story. it matters that you were there and tried to love it as best you could.
orv also has a lot to say about love, self-sacrifice, and salvation. kim dokja's love of the story and his companions is a major motivator to why he destroys himself over and over. it's paralleled to his own mother, who sacrificed herself for his sake, and who he resented all his life and yet can't stop making the same choice when it comes to the safety of others. that sort of love and salvation hurts as much as it saves. it's as selfish as it is selfless. it's the same choice his companions make in order to get him back. they love him. they would be able to live with his resentment and guilt if it meant he would survive.
kim dokja's love for yoo joonghyuk, specifically, is both selfish and selfless. it is his love for yoo joonghyuk that was (unintentionally) responsible for much of yoo joonghyuk's suffering. the choices kim dokja makes out of love are what mitigate yoo joonghyuk's suffering, and eventually are what allows him to free himself from his eternal cycle. again, it is the love a reader has for a story, and the way that a reader both craves conflict and craves for the characters they love to overcome it.
it is the same love that drives yoo joonghyuk and han sooyoung to repeat the cycle again, as a choice this time. selfishly and selflessly. han sooyoung damns the world to apocalypse because she wished to save kim dokja's life. yoo joonghyuk chooses both regressions and his time in space to grasp at the chance to keep kim dokja alive. neither of their choices is guaranteed to save him. they know that. love alone isn't enough to save someone. but they make this choice because they love him, knowing that he would hate the choice. they create the story together because they want their sole reader to be understood by it.
and that's the end theme of orv's meditations on love and the nature of stories. if you love a story enough that it saves you... well, perhaps it's possible that the story, too, loves you back.
none of this is easy to describe in a sentence. I agree that it's probably easier to just say "orv is about love?" but I wish more people identified it further beyond that, since that usually is where the discussion just stops. I find orv's discussions on love to be some of the most compelling presentations on the topic that I've ever seen in fiction, and I like discussing it! i want to treat it with the complexity that it deserves.
#narrates#orv#see even with THIS long post I don't think I've captured everything orv has to say about love#it's a gigantic fucking novel and has SO MANY THEMES#also imo. when people say 'x is about love' it does often come at a cost of dismissing other themes in a work#in addition to either simplifying or straight up misrepresenting the work's actual depiction of love#which is why I tend not to enjoy it as a type of analysis. at least when it's expressed without much complexity or nuance#however i will say that I have seen some good posts on orv's handling of love lmao. i don't mean to say they aren't out there#or that they're not operating under the same level of specificity that i prefer#just that I personally want to always keep the conversation specific and complex whenever I get asked about it!
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I am constantly getting the GG walmart ad and I want to believe it's because the algorithm knows I'm a GG girlie but the real reason is I am a Walmart girlie
Ya girl is a Walmart plus member whoops!!!
#i blame it 100% on my disabilities#walmart lets me go to one store i know very well and get everything i need#and it allows me choose my groceries at home & get delivered at no surcharge for just the additional cost of a tip i'm happy to pay#because grocery shopping is nearly impossible for me in person#bc i am very weird and complicated#WHOOPS#I STILL STAND BY THAT THE GG CHARACTERS WOULD BE ANTI-WALMART BY AND LARGE
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i don’t love whatever the fuck cmac is doing right now but i understand that we’re struggling with the cap space bc of v*l and honestly im too relieved abt jo to really get upset rn
#i’m glad we’re keeping mittsy and kivi too!#wish we hadn’t had to let three of our trade deadline additions fly already when they were largely beneficial but. the cost.#it is what it is i guess#avs lb
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