#acotar fandom bullshit

[shadowqueenjude]

Do people actually hate on Lucien for the Suriel thing? That scene was fucking hilarious! Lucien trying to help Feyre while also low-key tryna get her killed is the chaotic energy I aspire to. Besides, you didn't really expect him to be all buddy-buddy with the girl who killed his bestie, did you? He NEVER pretended to be her hero or to want the best for her, unlike Rhys lol. He regretted it immediately afterward anyway. PLUS he took a whipping for her UTM so... And these SAME PEOPLE will laugh out loud about the Weaver's thing. Like...? Talk about a double standard.

[hlizr50]

I have a riddle for you, ACOTAR fandom.

Picture this:

Two lovely pieces of art, created with a high level of skill. Both depict the rescue of a female character from a traumatic experience by their potential love interest later in the series, cradled against him with their arms around his neck.

One is absolutely STUNNING. This scene is so emotional and the art captures them so perfectly.

One is absolutely DISGUSTING. How could you possibly romanticize trauma like this?!

It's just... interesting. That's what I'll choose to say.

It's interesting.

[shadowqueenjude]

The way some people in this fandom put down Lucien the purest character in this series and stan rice cake in the same breath i can't-

Breaking the ACOTAR 4th Wall Pt 2

Rhysand: My friend, Tamlin behaved unforgivably towards me.

Lucien: Me too.

Rhysand: I underwent devastating sexual assault.

Lucien: Me too.

Rhysand: My actions have directly led to my mate being put in harm’s way.

Lucien: Me too.

Rhysand: I was in love with my mate and pursued her while she was in love with another.

Lucien: Me too.

Rhysand: I lost my entire family and have had to build a new one.

Lucien: Me too.

Rhysand: Under the Mountain I was one of the only people to help Feyre.

Lucien: Me too.

Rhysand: I’ve made some mistakes.

Lucien: Me too.

Rhysand: So why do E*riels say you’re not good enough for an Archeron sister because of your past actions, but they don’t mind me being with Feyre?

Lucien: Because I’m a threat to E*riel and they have to invalidate my character to keep their sinking ship afloat.

Rhysand: That’s pathetic.

Lucien: Don’t get me started. We’ll be here all day.

[azrielsbreedingkink]

An entire novella isn’t relevant to the future plot but a random ass B O N U S chapter is

[lainalit]

if you drew a venn diagram of how many women intensely hate the female se*ual assaulters in the series like Ianthe & Amarantha and how many women post/like/comment/share the hundreds utm post about how funny/sexy it was that rhysand drugged feyre, touched her non consensually and made her lapdance on him in the first book it would be a circle

[goldenspringmornings]

ig imma be the one to bang this drum (despite my many critiques) but it’s actually super Weird™️ that sjm made her mmc’s men of color- heavily black/indigenous coded ones at that- just to turn around and romanticize their abusive behaviors towards their white female love interests. not only is that painfully stereotypical- white women having to be “protected” from scary brown men while still sexualizing their bodies🙄😒- it’s next level gross and definitely not talked about enough when analyzing why fey/sand and ne/ssian are problematic. sjm purposefully made Illyrians (and male fae in general but I’m focusing on the Illyrians rn) to be hyper violent, hypersexual “s*vages” with a culture only focused on war, power and breeding but then holds up rhysand, cassian and azriel as the “exception” and is constantly telling her audience that they’re “not like other Illyrians” (another heavily damaging stereotype) when she also explicitly and textually raises them inside of this culture that she’s condemning constantly as “backwards” propping them up as the prefect men who would never disregard their mate/girlfriend/partner’s wishes, desires or demands all the while showing almost the exact opposite in most circumstances, especially in regards to ne/ssian and how nesta still feels she needs to earn cassian’s love by the end of an 800 page book. all three of our main Illyrian males are presented as bestial, aggressive, dangerous and brutal consistently across the series and it’s only their white, delicate (at least in comparison) love interest that “tames” that innate sense of…dominance ig into something good and lovable. they can’t just be good enough on their own- they have to be good specifically to and for their white partner otherwise they would be just like any other Illyrian presented thus far in the text.

idk I definitely have more to say about this but it’s also starting to short-circuit my brain the longer I think about how deeply entrenched the racism is in this series so maybe I’ll talk more about another day

[mystical-blaise]

Nah, crackships didn't have to just be in different universes or never met; they were also ones that were humorous or canonically didn't make sense.

Look, there are a few I like in ACOTAR that literally have no basis in canon at all beyond they've met wouldn't it be a wild pair. But it's when peeps go on other's pages/accounts/blogs and comment on other platforms basically trying to sell you on their crackship with "canon" evidence. Don't knock on people's doors and solicit the good word of your ship. If someone isn't interested, they just aren't. And if they keep doing it? Well, they're going to get a response.

Like what you like and regardless this is *literally* why fanfiction was created. Live your best life.

👵 back in my day, we didn’t call it a crackship unless the characters had never met

[bloomingdarkgarden]

Comin outta my cage to write harder than ive ever written before.

Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum, bitches.

Don't let the fanfiction bastards keep you down.

[anishake]

So let me get this straight about Elain week - amidst all the elriel and elucien they were getting so many tamlain and Beron that the mods had to think about banning? If so, then it means majority of people want to write and read about it and who gave you the permission to censor?

Leave the creative freedom alone ffs, I swear some of the Elain stans are so annoying, they be gatekeeping her like the inner cycle.

[theshadowsingersraven]

I don't think enough people know how to psychologically analyze characters in this fandom, nor understand that SJM isn't going to always have them make the most rational decisions possible that will lead them to their end result and goal easiest. Characters, when written by an author who's trying to make them as human and real-feeling as possible, are going to make bad decisions. They're not going to act in their own interests 100% of the time because no real human being does that either. Is there a certain level of logical belief that should be maintained? Yeah, absolutely. There's only so much someone can suspend their disbelief for without having to question if the character is actually brainless. I'm not saying we can't *criticize* them for those decisions.

But if you intend to give thoughtful analysis but can only analyze literally, and question why the characters might do something many humans do in regard to mistakes or bad choices, without considering their background and mentality...I don't really know what to tell you.

[shadowqueenjude]

One comment. I post ONE COMMENT about Gwyn having the necklace and not Elain. That's it. FIFTY FUCKING REPLIES!!! MOST OF THEM ARE FROM ELRIELS SHITTING ON ME!!! I mean what the hell man. Some of y'all get wayyyyy too hung up about fictional characters.

[hlizr50]

I was shown a post this morning (I think it was from Tumblr, but I'm not 100% sure) where someone asked if maybe something was LOST IN TRANSLATION because so many Gwynriel shippers aren't native English speakers.

Now...

I'm going to give this person the benefit of the doubt and believe that they truly don't mean anything negative by the question, even though the implications are... harmful to say the least.

Here's the deal, guys.

There are Gwynriel shippers all around the world because there are ACOTAR readers all around the world. The ship is not localized to a region or a language.

When people read books, the words on the page send a message. Sometimes, if we're super casual readers, the messaging is limited or we don't read a ton into it. For other readers who choose to delve deep into how the author writes to try to understand what might come next, it is obviously a bigger investment.

But at the end of the day, we all read the SAME BOOK (and bonus content) and those words made us all feel different ways. Made us want or predict different things. And that's all well and good. The problem comes up when we try to explain why we feel the way that we do.

I'm an engineer. Even though I enjoy creative writing and art, my brain is practical. I like having evidence. I like being able to identify trends and make an educated prediction based on them. As someone who ships Gwynriel, I have never denied that there are canonical moments where Azriel and Elain have some level of... something. On page. It would be ignorant of me to say that those moments don't exist. However, for the most part FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, when a Gwynriel shipper tries to use canonical evidence to support their ship -- WHICH EXISTS -- it's a constant barrage of 'that's not what that means' or 'how could you read that romantically?' or 'Gwyn is just a side character'. And then there are the blatant hypocrisies, like how Azriel saving Elain from Hybern is romantic but Azriel saving Gwyn at Sangravah should never be mentioned ever again.

I guess what this long-winded ramble is trying to say is that there's nothing lost in translation. We've read the same story, and we believe Gwynriel makes sense. We lean on canon and trends in the author's style to support the ship, and then we headcanon the hell out of it, because fandom is supposed to be fun like that. Some people read the story and believe that Elriel makes sense, and that's perfectly fine. But don't come at a Gwynriel shipper, attacking their textual evidence with your headcanon that Elain was barely existed in ACOSF bc she was apparently training to be a spy and she and Azriel were falling in love completely off-page with nothing to show for it.

And don't you dare make an implication so blatantly out of bounds like blaming it on some strange translation error that somehow miraculously makes Gwynriel makes sense, but only if it's not in English. Like... give me a break. And... think about what you're saying. For A SINGLE MOMENT.

[azrielsbreedingkink]

Feyre said Tamlin abused her. Her friends say Tamlin abused her. Her sisters say Tamlin abused her. The author said Tamlin abused her.

Why do we allow people in this fandom to try and convince us otherwise?

[daevastanner]

lol update not only did they take the time to comment this:

But now we’re attacking fanfic commenters?

And no, I won’t blur out their username. It’s a sock puppet account so it’s not like knowing her name can lead to actually harm.

If you don’t like today’s chapter of HALFBREEDS or disagree with how I handle the plotline I really don’t need to know

All we have as a fanfic writers, the only method of payment we receive, is engagement. When that engagement becomes littered with disagreements about how non canon our fanfiction is or how you didn’t like the way things went down, you take away our incentive to write.

I feel like that was the goal with today’s commenter, but I don’t really know their motives so I won’t speculate further.

SPOILERS FOR HALFBREEDS:

I list at the top of the chapter that this beat was born from a TikTok that was highly requested I turn into a story. One of the lines from the TikTok is “both your wife and your son will drown” so I indeed have Gwyn threaten Rhysand’s wife and child. She’s not in her right mind (a parallel to Azriel’s previous chapter), if Rhys kills her she’ll drop a tidal wave on his home, he sees her as a surrogate sister by this point in the story so killing her would literally break his heart, and lastly: Feyre and Nyx aren’t event in danger actually.

It doesn’t matter if you don’t like it. It doesn’t matter if you don’t think my FANFIC is canon compliant. It doesn’t matter if you have an urge to tell me you disagree with me.

DO NOT COMMENT NEGATIVELY ON FANFIC

[octobers-veryown]

I swear to god that I keep staying in this fandom bc of the few amazing friend that I made along the way. Otherwise this environment has become pure TRASH.

Reflect on yourself and reflect about how you treat people on the internet. The amount of bullying and hate that I'm seeing in these days it's insane. This is not how we behave in real life, this is not how things work.

Maybe is time to go out and touch some grass!!!

[starfall-spirit]

Whats your free day concept 👀

One of them is dragon!rhys, who I’m sure many of us are familiar with thanks to @separatist-apologist’s wonderful series.

The other is a ddlg why choose. I know @whatishowedyouinthedark has been teasing the trope for Tensegrity the last couple days. (Not the why choose half of that. I don’t know anything more than y’all lol. girl if this is you in my anons…awkward.)

Both of these wonderful ladies are extremely gracious when it comes to other artists, so it isn’t their reactions I worry about. It’s so easy in this fandom for people to assume a writer or artist is stealing concepts when a lot of us just have similar taste. Even outside parties make accusations at times. It can be a difficult line to toe when you’re a less popular creator.