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am i a person or am i achilles in patroclus' pov?
#the song of achilles#patrochilles#achilles#patroclus#i am literally achilles#achilles' wrath#the iliad#tsoa achilles#tsoa#tsoa patrochilles#the best of greeks#aristos achaion
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saw a poll about whether you prefer corruption or redemption arcs and i realized that for me it's not really either, it's a distillation arc: when a character becomes the most intense version of what they could be, everything inessential falling away or being discarded so that only the core remains.
#(yes i considered “purification” but that has Connotations)#achilles starts out angry but in a human way; he ends as divine wrath embodied.#you know.#trope corner
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My thoughts on the champion!Patroclus au are so disorganized I have not slept, but know that the main reason for its existence is that fictional men are infinitely more attractive when sweaty and covered in blood
#i mean i have other reasons#like the study of wrath#and this idea of achilles training zagreus to defeat the champion (by death) and by proxy he will be killing patroclus#and also something aristos achaion something If he truly is the best of the Greeks then why doesn't he come up here and kill me himself? Etc#open invitation to flirt through battle by student proxy#patroclus before stabbing zagreus through the chest: tell your mentor i expected better from aristos achaion#achilles: oh i see how it is
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One of my biggest pet peeves is the assumption that something has to be sad for it to be tragic.
I've always been a big believer of the 'Apollo has an awful love life'/'Apollo is plain unlucky with love' line of thinking but it does bother me that the general reasoning for that statement is given to the concept of 'Apollo is somehow undesireable and thus rejected' (Cassandra/Daphne/Marpessa) or 'his lovers die young and thus their love is unfulfilled' (Cyparissus/Hyacinthus/Coronis). I personally think that's a very unfortunate way of looking at things - not only because it neglects the many perfectly cordial entanglements and affairs Apollo has had, both mortal and divine - but because it presents a very shallow interpretation of the concepts of love and loss and how loss affects people.
Apollo can still grieve lovers that have a long, healthy life. The inherent tragedy of an immortal who knows his lovers and children will die and cannot stop it does not stop being tragic simply because those lovers and children live long, fulfilled lives. The inherent tragedy of loss does not stop being tragic simply because someone knows better than to mourn something that was always going to end.
What is tragic is not that Apollo loves and loses but that loss itself follows him. Apollo does not love with the distance of an immortal, he does not have affairs and then leaves never to listen to their prayers again. He does not have offspring and then abandon them to their trials only to appear when it is time to lead them to their destinies. He raises his young, he protects the mothers of his children, he blesses the households that have his favour and multiplies their flocks that they may never go hungry. He educates his sons, he adorns his daughters and even in wrath he is quick to come to his senses and regret the punishments he doles out.
Apollo loves. And like mortals, there will always be some part of him that wishes to protect the objects of his affections. Apollo, however, is also an emissary of Fate. He knows that the fate of all mortal things is death. He knows that to love a mortal is to accept that eventually he will have to bury them. There is no illusion of forever, there is no fantasy where he fights against the nature of living things and shields his beloveds from death. Apollo loves and because of that love, he also accepts.
And that, while beautiful, is also tragic.
#ginger rambles#ginger chats about greek myths#greek mythology#apollo#Listen man#I think there's something extremely beautiful about Apollo's affairs#Yes I know that Ares also loves and cares for his daughters but this isn't about him#There's just something about the way that Apollo put his all into it every single time#To the point that even when he does know better he still fights because of the strength of his love#The Iliad to me will always be a love story#Yes Achilles' wrath is said to come from his overwhelming feelings towards Patroclus#but what Achilles does has nothing to do with grief or love#By the end of everything Achilles forsook that love which ought to have defined his actions based on what he was saying#and warped it into a weapon meant to satisfy the void left by his loss#Apollo though - I am always taken aback by the sheer weight of his love#towards not only Hektor but towards all of Troy in the Iliad#And how he is very careful to balance that love and all the ways he wishes he could fight against their inevitably end#with his duties as one who is both aware of the impending end and whose position in the war#has put him in opposition with his elders#That delicate balance between a love so powerful that he is willing to take on the full weight of Athena and Hera's wrath#and an understanding that the battle he fights is not for victory but simply because for love's sake#How could you not think of that as beautiful and awesome and so achingly tragic#I feel the same about both Asclepius' and Actaeon's deaths#Apollo loved BOTH of his sons - Asclepius and Aristaeus - so so SO much#He was so incredibly proud of them both and delighted immensely in the both of their victories and talents#And so when Asclepius dies and it is by his own father's hand - I have always found his act of wrath so fascinating#Honestly this could be its own separate post - but the fact that Apollo does not beg Zeus to reconsider or to bring Asclepius back#when Apollo has made cases for lenience on things like that before speaks of a level of understanding from Apollo that Asclepius was always#going to die because of his pushing of the boundary between life and death#so he doesn't bother trying to reason with Zeus or plea his grief - instead going directly to destroying something important to Zeus
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How It Started~ Annabeth: Stressed Percy: Carefree How It's Going~ Annabeth: Carefree Percy: Stressed.
#Thankyou wrath of the triple goddesses for changing the aspects#pjo#pjo hoo toa#heroes of olympus#percy jackson#toa#hoo#trials of apollo#annabeth x percy#percabeth#achilles#percy and annabeth#wrath of the triple goddess#pjo wottg#wottg#wottg spoilers#chalice of the gods#pjo cotg#cotg#riordanverse
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CAN I HUG YOUR PATROCLUS??
lol sure i don't have a solid design for him rn but
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finally read wrath goddess sing transfem achilles is so dear to me
#the helmet kinda sucks but i was struggling so bad i just gave up after an hour </3#art#achilles#wrath goddess sing#fanart#the iliad#iliad fanart#transgender#artists on tumblr
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If you aren't emotionally attached to Achilles and Patroclus my blog ain't the place to be rn I will ALWAYS reblog them [and I'm on my 3rd reread]
#the song of achilles#please yall. please.#i know whats coming but i dont know if i have the strength to handle it#just thinking about the wrath of a god#the violence the disregard for humans will the carelessness of anything but their goal#and how achilles acted after patroclus died#claiming his title in history and life#and it was the worst thing to ever happen to him#pls#tsoa#achilles#patroclus#patrochilles
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like wrath goddess sing is not considered part of the modern feminist retelling [tm] genre but none of those books have the guts to have a scene like the one where achilles remembers beating someone enslaved to her, because the girl was also trans and was dressing as a woman and achilles perceived that as mockery of herself. the internalized transmisogyny being projected outward into class violence...
#i'm not saying wrath goddess sing is perfect about class or slavery or race but it's at least fucking considering the fact that#achilles is a slave owner. and that she is going to (as is socially expected) do violence to other people because she believes she#is entitled to that because she has enslaved them. achilles did a hate crime on a woman because she was in a position of power#and deeply insecure. and that is an interesting and upsetting and complicated woman#the retellings that have the most interesting things to say about women and gender will not be found in the booktok aisle sorry#june.txt#ask to tag
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Funny how Hollywood makes an Iliad adaptation that portrayed Achilles and Briseis as a loving couple then a few years later make an adaptation of Perseus where he doesn’t end up with Andromeda but instead with his ancestor.
#the only reason they end up together in the Wrath of the Titans movie is bc the writers remembered they are supposed to be a couple#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#hollywood#Achilles#briseis#Perseus#perseus and andromeda#princess andromeda#andromeda
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The Fury of Achilles by Charles-Antoine Coypel
#achilles#art#the iliad#charles antoine coypel#trojan war#troy#mythological#mythology#greek mythology#history#europe#european#fury#wrath#anger#gods#ancient world#homer#antiquity#ancient greek#ancient greece#myrmidon#myrmidons#greek#greece#thessalian#thessaly#ancient thessaly#mediterranean
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"In their midst Achilles the fast runner followed, pouring down hot tears when he saw his beloved comrade lying on the bier, mangled by the sharp bronze. He had sent Patroklos forth with his horses and chariot into the war, but he did not receive him returning"
- Illiad, Book 18
#enough about the wrath of achilles#what about the GUILT???#THE REGRET???#achilles#patroclus#the illiad#song of achilles#fanart#digital painting#patrochilles
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In you au what would Percy have to do to get in trouble with Luke? Put himself in danger? Do something reckless? Would he have ways of calming Luke down like Luke does with the cute baby trick?
Mmm 🤔 nice question to ponder on, @darkcrowprincess. Had to think about this a little and yesterday I wasn't in the best shape to do so, I'm sorry 🥲.
However today I feel better and my brain has been of help, so I could put together a few things.
I must say I quite like the headcanon I put together. I have been building my characters all along without realizing it 🤣. Shame, shame on me!
About rage
Nothing triggers Luke Milligan more than the random use of the word "family".
It’s a strange thing. If you ask him, I'm sure even Luke wouldn't be able to answer if this trigger of his is due to the memories he now has of his past life or if the reason lies in the self-righteousness with which his dad’s brothers have always flaunted their "we are family" speech to stab you in the back. However to hear someone say "I'm doing this for your sake because we’re family" pisses Luke off like nothing else in the world.
Growing up, his Dad taught him how the best way to make anything work is by talking about it. Father, instead, showed Luke how duty has nothing to do with guilt.
Mindful of Chuck’s yoke, Michael was always quite adamant about what Luke could and couldn't do. The archangel taught him how sometimes his actions would be dictated by necessity, other times because they were the right thing to do. However nothing- NOTHING! - will ever give Luke the right to decide for someone else 'cos "I’m your family, so I know what’s best for you". Michael was always pretty clear about this.
His human family is the best example of why you can't decide for someone else, even for a member of your own family. The first time Luke's dad died, it was because John Winchester "had known" what was better for Adam and had left him in the dark about the supernatural. Meanwhile an endless trail of people had to sacrifice their lives for the Winchesters' sick idea of family. (Not that his angelic family was much better, mind you).
So do you want to make an enemy out of Luke Milligan? Try to decide for him or to do something behind his back using the word "family" as your excuse. And Percy learned this in the hard way.
Is Percy reckless? Does he put himself in danger? No problem! Luke will be there by his side.
As a hothead himself, it would be hypocritical of Luke to ask Percy to be in any other way. And trouble is always funnier when shared 😁.
Said so if you’ve the bad luck to stumble upon the wrath of Luke Milligan, the only way you have to calm him down is to say sorry and tell him the truth. He is like a Hellhound in his rage: nothing can stop him till the enemy is destroyed. This is his Achilles' heel.
As Adam always said, it's a long way to go to solve his son's wrath issues. At least the daddy ones are not a problem anymore.
#percy jackson#luke milligan#spn au#midam#adam milligan#lukercy#perluke#archangel michael#crossover#midam spn#otp: doomed by the narrative 🗡️🌊#luke is the new darkness#luke castellan#achilles' heel#wrath#rage
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oh dear the book is reaching Blorbo levels of a Dangerous Calibre
#catfish speaks#the book is wrath goddess sing btw#been listening to the Spotify audiobook cos i dont have a copy#and any copies i buy wont arrive till like a week before book club#and this book has like 40 chapters so im getting a head start#but ANYWAY#oh my GOD#i love it#its so fucking good#so dramatic and intense and it WORKS#achilles my beloved ohmygod i adore her#i jisy finished listening to chapter 3 and had go jusy Sit There and process it for a bit#im at work btw#im ajdhejajajq#I've been texting the friend who suggested it for book club all while listening to it#im AAAAAHHHHH#this book WILL make me cry#i can already tell#spoilers: her nickname on skyros is Pyrrha :')#i know what a pyrric victory means#i know how the trojan war went#i am :')#not prepared
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I had a dream that Apollo was training Briseis to become a warrior with divine strength. I don't remember the why, or how he got access to her, though.
Sounds like one Helll of an AU, no? She might not be able to save Troy (because fate), but she could avenge it by killing Greeks. She could even be the one to kill Achilles (she deserves her revenge, for being made a sex slave). Or, like Aeneas, she could later travel further into Europe, and be the ancestor to some great tribe, maybe even an empire.
I think, I'll put this idea on my notes (or dream journal, at least). What's with me recieving story concepts in dreams, when I already have an ungodly amount of wips.
I suppose, Apollo decided "I know what Troy lacks! A warrior prodigy teenage girl chosen one with trauma!"
#greek mythology#the iliad#briseis#diary pages#dream journal#greek mythology fandom#greek mythology fanfiction#story ideas#warrior!briseis#seriously I can't remember how the whole thing happened I just remember the concept#but hell that's fascinating#now that would be a cool twist#and her killing achilles would be the coolest thing ever#apollo#i suppose she'd be an archer?..#Apollo is hardly a sword or speak guy#hmm if I write it Ares must join in to help his half bro train the Wrath of Troy#teenage girl warrior prodigy chosen one with trauma is the key to success usually
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are we sure hector didnt deserve it
#achilles' pride this achilles' wrath that. what about hector's pride hm. what about his hubris#Im just saying achilles wasnt the first one to defile a body this week#the iliad#achilles#hector of troy
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