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its insane how you literally can't talk about the oppression caucasians face (what was the last time you read about the genocide or imperialist aggression caucasian people went through? actually?) without an american/westerner piping up with "umm... lol... you think White people are oppressed? lol"
Isn't it crazy how people use caucasian to make fun of white people while literally Completely erasing the struggles of a racialized group? Isn't it crazy how no one cares and people keep doing it without batting an eye? And isn't it crazy when you try to look up something about caucasians you get stupid ass articles about "are white people opressed or not? are white people entitled? are white people this or that?"
#and before someone says something stupid again\#Yes. Among caucasian ethnic groups there are what you would consider “white people”#but if you do not actually know shit about caucasians and the diversity of ethnic group in the caucasus you do not get to generalize#because it is markedly not true#if you don';t know shit#about the armenian genocide#circassian genocide#the chechen wars#the racialization SPECIFICALLY AGAINST people of caucasian identity (in countries like russia)#the imperialist conquest of caucasian people#among many many other things#you do not get to speak#and i am by no means proclaiming myself to be an expert on this topic#but i live the reality where my caucasian friend is routinely denied the ability to rent an apartment#and i come online and americans talk about stupid shit like#umm... how are caucasians oppressed... you think white people are oppressed??? are you stupid/? lol
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elon "world's most dangerous antisemite" musk spoke at a far-right extremist political rally in germany and said he thinks people need to 'move beyond' the holocaust, so i've shelved my original post planned for international Holocaust Remembrance Day and instead i am going to talk about how european cities are built with jewish gravestones.
during ww2 the Nazis and their allies were in search of places to get good quality stone for building. then they realized they had countless: the cemeteries of once thriving jewish communities they were targeting. An unknown number (we will never know exactly how many, but it is high) of matzevot (jewish gravestones) were removed from our ancestor's graves and used as construction materials. even after 1945 our cemeteries kept being used as quarries. because our communities were never the same afterwards.
all over Europe, you can find roads, sidewalks, buildings, tools, christian gravestones... even a children's sandbox, made of gravestones stolen from our old jewish cemeteries. sometimes the cemetery land was 'repurposed' into something else as well, with no regard for the human remains there.
Poland
There were 1200 jewish cemeteries in Poland alone, and more than four hundred of them did not survive the war times. They were rearranged to provide sites for housing estates, sports fields, garbage dumps, or sand quarries. The sand mined from them to build houses was mixed with human remains. Only a hundred and fifty graveyards still have more than a hundred gravestones, but before the holocaust there were at between a few hundred thousand or a few million.
Between 2008-2011, photographer Łukasz Baksik documented some places in poland where Jewish gravestones were ''repurposed" during and after the war. Here are his photos: Matzevot for Everyday Use
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Top left: A cowshed in Starowola by Parysów, a village in east-central Poland, made of cobbled together jewish gravestones. Top right: A children's sandbox in Szczecin, a city in the West Pomerania Province built in the 1960s/70s. Bottom left: School playing courts in Kazimierz Dolny, a town in eastern Poland. The schoolyard was built, in the 1950s, on the grounds of a Jewish cemetery, and there are fragments of matzevot in the walls. Bottom right: In the town of Brok, in eastern Poland, the interior of a workshop contains a mounted grindstone carved from a jewish gravestone.
Czech Republic and Ukraine
In the 1980s, cobblestones made from Jewish gravestones were used to pave a busy part of Prague's Old Town, a main city square called Wenceslas Square on Na Prikope, a popular shopping street. (As of 2019 they are apparently going to be returned to the Old Jewish Cemetery).
In 2018, a road in L’viv, Ukraine was being repaired when city workers found over 100 Jewish gravestones used in paving it. Matzevot have been found here in the past and brought back to the Jewish cemetery by volunteer teams.
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Left: Cobblestones used to pave a busy street in Prague, taken from Jewish headstones. The Hebrew letter hey and the numbers 895 are visible. Right: Matzevot used as paving in Lviv, being rescued by volunteers.
Belarus and Lithuania
in Vilnius, Lithuania, jewish tombstones were used all over the city in construction, including for an electric transformer substation, church steps, and the grand stairway in the trade union headquarters. They are being rescued and returned to the cemetery as they are found.
In Belarus, matzevot were used for house foundations, porches, fences, backyard paving, roads, or they were turned into millstones.
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Left: A man examines the memorial made from gravestones that had been used to build stairs in Vilnius. Right: 2016 photo of Jewish gravestone used as stairway of church in Vilnius.
Greece
People often forget about Sephardic Jews and the Holocaust, but Greece and especially Salonika (Thessaloniki), the "Jerusalem of the Balkans," were devastated by the Shoah. Salonika's major jewish cemetery contained hundreds of thousands of graves- when it was completely destroyed by the Nazis (with the help of Greeks who wanted the land), the gravestones were used in construction projects around the city. Aristotle University sits on the site today. Fragments of matzevot can still be found around the city in churches, buildings, even sidewalks, although now when they're found they're brought to the new Jewish cemetery.
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Broken up Jewish gravestone used for construction In Thessaloniki.
Eighty years is not a long time. We are not moving on. We are seeing rising fascism, scapegoating of minorities, violent nationalism. We said never again, not for anyone, not ever - the history books are right there telling us this is wrong, and we are NOT going to ignore words written with blood.
now that i have written all this out i don't actually know how to end the post so. i guess let's go with this: i'm not naive. ordinary people do terrible, awful things and I see how it is hard to trust anyone to not do terrible things to you when it matters most. but ordinary people also do wonderful, life-affirming things! i am a sephardic jew who is here because ordinary people resisted. stood up and threw themselves into the gears of the genocidal system that tried to kill my ancestors in greece and italy during the Shoah. people hid their neighbours, became resistance fighters. in athens a police chief gave jews false id cards and an archbishop gave jews false baptismal certificates. my family always taught me and my siblings that solidarity saves lives. you can start that right now!
There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! –Mario Savio
#long post is long#sorry about that#i just think this is important#cw: genocide#cw: holocaust#cw: antisemitism#cw: necroviolence#international holocaust remembrance day#antisemitism#cw: death#necroviolence#current events#holocaust studies#genocide#shoah#antifascism#fuck elon musk#lack of Jewish tags is not an oversight ppl Don't deserve to see shoah content in their feed unprepared#Obligatory nuance That necroviolence is not a new thing nor exclusive to the shoah. oppressors do this shit regularly#Canada's oil pipeline through an sacred Indigenous burial ground#centuries of Native American funerary objects and human remains being stolen and displayed or auctioned off to the highest bidder#destruction of the Armenian cemetery in Julfa#necroviolence in gaza#literally so many examples of the US army doing shit#destruction of Indigenous burial grounds in cambodia indonesia guam etc etc etc#violence against Black bodies during chattel slavery#necropolitics exists as a sociopolitical theory for a reason#Keeping atrocities like this from happening can only be done by understanding the ways in which oppression is related and linked#collective liberation is the only way forward
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Self-portrait of Ruben Sevak (before 1915)
#my first thought was “RIP Ruben Sevak you would've loved selfies”#but I've got too much respect for him to make jokes on his behalf and now I feel bad#I promise to tell you more about him very soon#poetry#classic literature#armenian literature#ruben sevak#armenian genocide
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Matteo what the fuck is up with white supremacists/fascists really liking bands like system of a down and rage against the machine...
pheww the age old question. i think to begin, youd be surprised how many older fans of soad and ratm were probably leftist, but as they grow older they just…become less so. which is kinda the narrative a lot of older people give to young radicals, like “once u reach my age you become more conservative!” type of bs. the other possibility lies in media literacy. fascists who love leftist music think its made…for them. and their fucked up conspiracy theories. yes, maybe they’re antiwar to a point (in terms of class and protecting poor whites), but a lot of em see these songs as attacking systems that are full of pedophile jewish democrats who are in control of the economy and media and wealth…its kind of the like the usual “you see what youre looking for” kind of blindness. it takes them away from the reality that soad and ratm have roots in being anti policing, anti war, anti drug war, anti fascism, anti violence against women, etc. its hilarious and wickedly frustrating to watch people listen to music literally saying “some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses” and be like ah yes. those are the crazy anti christian leftists.
at least that’s what i think lol
#muertoresponds#i think about this sometimes too#kinda hilarious#like soad literally hates imperialism and the members are descendants of survivors of the armenian genocide#like ofc they hate us imperialism#and also so many of those leftist bands that fascists love are literally like bipoc????#ratm is mexican???? LMFAOO
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Doing some research
I came across CAIR's official statement on the Armenian Genocide-
"On the 100th anniversary of these tragic events, in which some 1.5 million people died as a result of intentional killings, systematic abuse, forced migration, or starvation, we express our solidarity with the Armenian people whose family members and loved ones suffered such horrific atrocities and injustices at the hands of the military coup government of the collapsing Ottoman Empire.
"We also call for a process of reconciliation between the Turkish and Armenian people -- two honorable nations -- that would truthfully address historic injustices against the Armenian population in the Ottoman state and serve as a model for all those who struggle today for freedom, justice and human rights."
Is it me, or did CAIR just "both sides" the Armenian genocide while attributing blame to a nameless "military coup government?"
(For clarity- the Young Turks, along with many Muslim Turkish and Kurdish civilians, committed the Armenian Genocide following a declaration of Jihad against non-muslims in the Ottoman Empire. )
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Noam Chomsky "genocide denier"
I cut my teeth reading Chomsky in the 80s and 90s. He has faced criticism over the decades for his opinions that are extremely critical of U.S. and Israel's militarism. After 9-11 this made him a pariah in the U.S. and his critics have taken to socials today with out of context quotes, or just outright smearing him with the label of "genocide denier."
Reddit thread on Bosnia Genocide comments Reddit thread on Cambodian genocide comments
I'm not saying take the redditor's words for it, I'm saying these articles are a decent place to start and reddit's search works better than tumblrs...Oh and you might accidentally read some Chomsky and that would be no bad thing.
#he never denied bosnian or cambodian atrocities#in the case of cambodia the U.s. was actively HELPING pol pot which he fucking pointed out#and in the case of bosnia he was talking about making the charges against milosovic stick with the legal definition of genocide#and in general saying genocide is over used when there are things like man made famines that have political overtones and kill as many#and that genocide should be reserved for holocaust level planned exterminations of people such as Jews and Armenians#I literally just lost this same argument with a historian on tumblr two days ago#over whether Irish famine was genocide or not...#by the legal definition it is not...#also let's be real we KNOW why this particular argument is being put forward:#it's a bad faith effort to lump him in with holocaust deniers#because of his criticism of israel he must therefore be a self hating jew and an anti-Semite
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this is how Stepanakert, capital of Artsakh, looks right now. Bombing civilians is what the "restoration of the constitutional order" looks like for Aliyev? And the Armenian government chooses to do nothing and leave its people in danger
#rb this if you can#so that at least people not from Armenia will know about what is happening now#armenia#azerbaijan#war#stop war#nagorno karabakh#artsakh#armenian genocide#news#USA#russia#politics#nagorny karabakh
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There aren't only three genocides happening. By the way. There's been at least ten ongoing. None of you cared about them until you could hate jews about it, though.
#i just.#if i see that ''theres TWO MORE genocides!!'' post one more time i might actually lose it.#like. absolutely none of you cared ab the congo. until it was convenient.#none of you STILL care about anything turkey does. ever.#or any country that does anything to kurds or armenians.#you cunts only care about israel bc it makes your antisemitism easy. bc you can be an edgelord ab the us government.#you dont care ab north korea or worse youre fine with it.#you dont care about pakistan or afghanistan or india or iraq or iran or#you dont care. none of you actually care. its all so performative.#im so sick of it. im so sick.#from the drafts#ive had enough. ive had fucking enough.#you NEED to know what youre talking about when you talk about something as serious as genocide.#is israel committing a genocide? yes absolutely.#does that mean its the only genocide or the ''one of three'' stat i keep seeing? no.
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is there anything so inhumane and horrible as to strip a people of their history and culture?
#learning about the armenian genocide in history rn#and reflecting on what was done to my father (an immigrant)#both when he came to france and through generations of colonialism#sometimes my heart breaks over the enormity of what has been lost to time#whole peoples and languages and foods and art and richness#just gone#blotted out of history#it disgusts me#and theres nothing i can do about it#there’s very little that anyone can do about it#except try to hold on to the memory that we do have
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Cannot emphasize the tonal whiplash of seeing a post on my dash about how it's cringe to demand people care about a conflict in another country and then immediately after that see a post about Armenian genocide awareness
#do you guys have opinions on genocides that happen outside of your countries or not be consistent.#politics#also reblogged that post bc it was a good post#literally the reason the armenian genocide got to the point of BEING SUCCESSFUL is bc#ple were actively denying it and not talking about it. hmm sounds fucking familiar innit
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I know that not many people will see this but please spread the word of the genocide and forced relocation in Armenia happening right now. The more people hear about it, the more likely something is to be done.
There’s so many “mini genocides” that happen in Eastern Europe that no one talks about when we need to.
I pray that this whole thing is sorted out.
#armenia#justice for armenia#armenian genocide#dont let history repeat itself#Կեցցե~ Հայաստանը.#stop genocide#talk about it#reblog#spread the word
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Boy I wonder if Turkey, notably run by Islamist authoritarian Erdogan, might have an ulterior motive for signing up for public condemnations of a country that’s currently in the spotlight
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Israel’s PR team working 24/7 to do the impossible. Give it up boys, you can just go ahead and say you’re going to commit genocide and every war crime in the book, it’s not like the west will lift a finger to stop it, matter of fact it’ll lift many fingers to fund it.
#the American government has watched many genocides come and go.#Rwanda. Armenians. Kurds. uighers. gays anywhere. probably many I don’t even know about.#all that being said. long live Israel 🇮🇱 for pro ethnostate reasons.
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one of the sadest things ive heard lately tbh
i reached out to an old friend of mine whose mexican-american to catch up but also to tell him man i dont remember if you have any family left in armenia i just wanted to say hope theyre safe and im sorry for everything thats happening
.... it has been weeks since it escalated. he thanked me and said it meant a lot bc im the first and only person to say anything to him abt it :((((
#despite how frequently he talks abt being half aremanian and what it means to him and the genocide and everything#. one of the stupidest things i also remember him complaining about is american idiots hearing he wasnt#just mexican but armenian and thinking that somehow made him american white and he had like less#right to talk about opression and issues and shit#like godddd 💀💀💀💀 you god forsaken idiots who think the whole world falls into your american discourses#are armenians privileged now when barely anything is being done and its barely talked about huh?#you think 'white' is what matters in this generations long conflict u bafoons#cant comprehend that the ppl u consider white bc theyre orthodox have been horribly opressed and#genocided for so long and have such a rough history because of the ppl u dont consider white bc theyre turks and muslims 💀💀#so you really feel comfortable instantly dismissing the horrors suffered by armenia. because your american pea brains cant#wrap ur mind arounf this?#-_- my frustration during so many convos we had abt so many things is coming back
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Not JC doing fine-print sophistry genocide denial, as I live and breathe
#Defrock the editors man#Link in the comments#Ethnic cleansing and genocide describe two separate but very very often simultaneous processes#Indeed each serves the other. The Armenian Genocide was also an act of ethnic cleansing#Armenians being driven out of Artsakh is ethnic cleansing but not genocide. What's happening in Gaza & the West Bank is both#You don't generally get genocide without ethnic cleansing/forced population transfer either#Dov Waxman is being exceptionalist about the scale & scope of mechanized murder#And finger-wagging about the dilution of meaning when like#What would you call murdering 10K people in 4 weeks and clearly stating your intent to kill all Palestinians#More people have been killed in Gaza than at Srebrenica
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if you're armenian and youre reading this i love you ♥︎
#mixed or diaspora or homelanders or adopted i love YOU.#every armenian ive met has been so sweet and extended their arms out to me as an azeri to bond over our culture#i sound like a 40 year old woman whenever i talk about my culture or azeri politics but genuinely.#we can have pride in our country without the genocide and war on yours. from the bottom of my heart i want to apologise for what our regime#has done to your people and generations. its gonna sound liek some hippy shit but hinest to god i hope our people can find#peace together and coexist. at the very least.#i sewed an azerbaijan patch on my bag and my mother told me not to because 'the armenians are so cruel'#(we live in emgland) but people can only be vindictive if you fucking deny their genocide and continue to#support the man who wants to continue it. and im returning the kindness that armenian strangers ahve given me#ANYWYAS. ԵՍ ՍԻՐՈՒՄ ԵՄ ՔԵԶ! if youre armenian an dreading this i will draw u something. as a treat.#✂️
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