#abelforth

[shinmiyovvi]

Here are my TNMN babis :3

Alt. version under the cut and Delora's other outfit

Alt version with Delora's doorman outfit

[meear]

The Dumbledores as Cain and Abel

I spent years being confused at how you were supposed to spell "Aberforth", because I kept seeing different spellings for it.

That was before realising Aberforth's name was actually only Abelforth in the French version.

Once I noticed that, I had to wonder why such a change? And then I thought hold up... the translator is onto something.

It's very common for names to be changed in translation, especially in Harry Potter: you could ask anyone who didn't read the books in English, and they'd give you a bunch of examples. But most of the time, proper nouns are translated because:

1) there's some sort of pun in the original name, like "Ravenclaw", "Longbottom" or "Slytherin": these names were constructed from english words, so it makes sense to change them in other languages

2) the original name fits the character's personality. The names "Snape", "Moody" and "Umbridge" all carry negative connotations, so they're all a perfect fit for their owner. But naturally a non-english speaker wouldn't register that, so the names need to change

In short, HP names tend to have meaning, so it's natural to translate that meaning for a foreign reader.

But as for Aberforth, why would you only change one letter? "aberforth" doesn't seem to mean anything anyway. Google says it's Gaelic for "from the river", but I don't know how reliable that is, and this doesn't seem so important.

The only explanation is that the French translator wanted to insist on the biblical reference.

Aberforth (or Abelforth in French) does share many similarities with Abel from the Bible:

1) their name, for one

2) sheep-herding: Abel was a shepherd ("Abel became a herder of sheep while Cain was a tiller of the soil"), and we know Aberforth was fond of goats and tended to them as well

3) much like how God favoured Abel's offering over Cain's, we know that Aberforth was Ariana's favourite, not Albus

4) both Aberforth and Abel were the (more admirable) younger brother.

Cain was the traitorous older brother who spilled the blood of his own sibling. Albus admits his own guilt in HP7 and claims Aberforth was a better person than him. This leads us to the most important point:

5) Albus blames himself for Ariana's death. the story of Cain and Abel is known as the first fratricide in abrahamic religions: it is very likely that either Albus or Aberforth (and I'm convinced it was Albus) was guilty of that sin, which led to their sister Ariana's death.

So yeah, I don't believe for a second any of Grindelwald's spells hurt Ariana. Of course, they're all guilty nonelethess, but I think it's important that Albus directly killed his sister too.

So I looked around to see if this possible connection was already well-known, but I could only find traces of it on a French thread from 2007. It was before the release of deathly Hallows, so the guy only suggested it based on Aberforth's fondness for goats (ahead of his time fr). He wasn't taken seriously because well, someone pointed out Abelforth wasn't Abelforth in the original language. Now we have the Dumbledore lore though!

Rowling's a Christian, and that religious influence can definitely be seen in Harry Potter (especially HP7, there are even some biblical verses in that one). It doesn't seem far-fetched to me.

If she intended it, it's still interesting that the translator took it upon himself to make that connection explicit (i dont see why else he'd change the name). Then again, while I like the translation (I never would've realised the Abel thing otherwise), what if it HAD been a coincidence? Did the translator only create meaning from his own interpretation? Much to think about

[thatbiologist]

G’eth Character Name Bank

First Names

Masculine Names

Alfred, Andrew, Arlo, Arthur, Balthazar, Barry, Ben, Benedick, Bernard, Burchard, Cedric, Charibert, Crispin, Cyrill, Daegal, Derek, Digory, Drustan, Duncan, Edmund, Edwin, Elric, Evaine, Frederick, Geffery, George, Godfreed, Gregory, Guy, Harris, Harry, Horsa, Hugh, Humphrey, Iago, Jack, Jeremy, John, Kazamir, Kenric, Lawrence, Leoric, Lorik, Luke, Lynton, Lysander, Madoc, Magnus, Maukolum, Micheal, Miles, Milhouse, Mordred, Mosseus, Ori, Orvyn, Neville, Norbert, Nycolas, Paul, Percival, Randulf, Richard, Robert, Roderick, Stephen, Tennys, Theodoric, Thomas, Tristan, Tybalt, Victor, Vincent, Vortimer, Willcock, Willian, Wymond

Feminine Names

Adelin, Alice, Amelia, Beatrix, Beryl, Bogdana, Branwyne, Brigida, Catalina, Catherine, Claudia, Crystina, Deanna, Desdemona, Elaine, Elinora, Eliza, Enide, Eva, Ferelith, Fiora, Freya, Gertrude, Gregoria, Gueanor, Gwen, Gwendolyn, Hannah, Hegelina, Helen, Helga, Heloise, Henrietta, Igraine, Imogen, Jacquelyn, Jane, Jean, Jenny, Jill, Juliana, Juliet, Katie, Leela, Lettice, Lilibet, Lilith, Lucy, Luthera, Luz, Lyra, Malyna, Margherita, Marion, Meryl, Millie, Miranda, Molle, Morgana, Morgause, Nezetta, Nina, Novella, Olwen, Oriana, Oriolda, Osanna, Pamela, Petra, Philippa, Revna, Rohez, Rosalind, Rose, Sallie, Sarra, Serphina, Sif, Simona, Sophie, Thomasine, Tiffany, Ursula, Viola, Winifred, Yrsa, Ysabella, Yvaine, Zelda, Zillah

Gender-Neutral/Unisex Names

Adrian, Alex, Aiden, Arden, Ariel, Auden, Avery, Bailey, Blaire, Blake, Brett, Breslin, Caelan, Cadain, Cameron, Charlie, Dagon, Dana, Darby, Darra, Devon, Drew, Dylan, Evan, Felize, Fenix, Fernley, Finley, Glenn, Gavyn, Haskell, Hayden, Hunter, Jace, Jaime, Jesse, Jo, Kai, Kane, Karter, Kieran, Kylin, Landon, Leslie, Mallory, Marin, Meritt, Morgan, Nell, Noel, Oakley, Otzar, Paris, Peregrine, Quant, Quyn, Reagan, Remy, Robin, Rowan, Ryan, Sam, Samar, Sasha, Sloan, Stace, Tatum, Teegan, Terrin, Urbain, Vahn, Valo, Vick, Wallace, Waverly, Whitney, Yardley, Yarden, Zasha

Surnames

Surnames, Patrilineal - First Name (Patrilineal Surname)

Ace, Allaire, Appel, Arrow, Baker, Bamford, Barnard, Beckett, Berryann, Blakewood, Blanning, Bigge, Binns, Bisby, Brewer, Brickenden, Brooker, Browne, Buller, Carey, Carpenter, Carter, Cheeseman, Clarke, Cooper, Ead, Elwood, Emory, Farmer, Fish, Fisher, Fitzroy, Fletcher, Foreman, Foster, Fuller, Galahad, Gerard, Graves, Grover, Harlow, Hawkins, Hayward, Hill, Holley, Holt, Hunter, Jester, Kerr, Kirk, Leigh, MacGuffin, Maddock, Mason, Maynard, Mercer, Miller, Nash, Paige, Payne, Pernelle, Raleigh, Ryder, Scroggs, Seller, Shepard, Shore, Slater, Smith, Tanner, Taylor, Thatcher, Thorn, Tilly, Turner, Underwood, Vaughan, Walter, Webb, Wilde, Wood, Wren, Wyatt, Wynne

Surnames, Townships in G’eth - First Name of (Location)

Abelforth, Argent Keep, Barrow Springs, Barrowmere, Bedford, Brunhelm, Bumble, Casterfalls, Dunbridge, Falmore Forest, Folk’s Bounty, Frostmaid, Fulstad, Heller’s Crossing, Hertfordshire, Humberdale, Inkwater, Little Avery, Marrowton, Mistfall, Mistmire, Morcow, Necropolis-on-Sea, Otherway, Parsendale, Piddlehinton, Port Fairwind, Redcastle, Ransom, Rutherglen, Saint Crois, Tanner’s Folly, Tavern’s Point, Wilmington

Surnames, Geographical Locations in G’eth - First Name of the (Location)

Cove of Calamity, Deep Woods of Falmore, Eastern Isles, Eastern Mountains, Foothills, Frozen Peak, Lakes, Maegor Cobblestones, Northern Mountains, Southern Isle, Tangle, West Coast, Wild Wild Woods, Woods of Angarad

Surnames, Nickname - First Name the (Something) 

Bald, Bastard, Bear, Bearded, Big, Bird, Bold, Brave, Broken, Butcher, Bruiser, Careless, Caring, Charitable, Clever, Clumsy, Cold, Confessor, Coward, Crow, Cyclops, Devious, Devoted, Dog, Dragonheart, Dreamer, Elder, Faithful, Fearless, Fey, Fool, Friend, Generous, Giant, Goldheart, Goldfang, Gouty, Gracious, Great, Hag, Handsome, Hawk, Honest, Huge, Humble, Hungry, Hunter, Innocent, Ironfist, Ironside, Keeper, Kind, Lesser, Liar, Lionheart, Little, Loyal, Magical, Mercenary, Merchant, Messenger, Old, Orphan, Pale, Polite, Poet, Poor, Prodigy, Prophet, Proud, Reliable, Romantic, Rude, Selfish, Sellsword, Scab, Scholar, Shield, Shy, Singer, Sirrah, Slayer, Slug, Small, Stoneheart, Swift, Tadde, Talented, Tart, Tenacious, Timid, Tiny, Tough, Traveller, Trusted, Truthful, Viper, Wizard, Wolf, Wyrm

[stephanlentz]

I juste noticed I missed to post this CharaDesign Entry from december 2016. 

“Have you ever heard of this old dude, traveling from chimney to chimney? Making presents he takes out of his enchanted bag, just to hear children's laughter? Then you probably know about Abelforth, a wizard on a quest of redemption. “  

[deathsletters]

Okay but- first, SPOILER ALERT FANTASTIC BEASTS 3!!

In the new Fantastic Beasts movie, at the end where Abelforth is talking with Aurelius (Credence), was I the only one to immediately think of the parallel with scene in the Harry Potter's movie, when Snape is dying and Harry is by his side?

If I remember correctly, Aurelius asks if Abelforth thought of him, and Abelforth replied ''Always''. And then, THEN a single tear roll down the cheek of his son. Like with Snape and Harry.

We've got again a unique child, who is desperately seeking love from their parents.

Fortunately, none of them died in that scene.

[now-two-people-are-mad-at-me]

Albus put the dumb in Dumbledore

[uthseikoashx-inflamedme]

did Abelforth know about GGAD? (just a random thought rly)

In a lot of GGAD fanfics of the summer 1899, Aberforth knows about the true nature of Albus’ and Gellert’s relationship - it’s usually an interesting theme

But in reality, he certainly never knew, right?

I mean, Aberforth said in DH Gellert and Albus were “best friends”, our two boys were probably hiding somewhere everytime they were together - to plan a new world order and snog without someone nearby -, we might suppose the society was a bit homophobic...

So their relationship was most likely a secret (even if we can wonder about what Bathilda saw/heard/understood)

Or maybe the old Aberforth wanted to keep unspoild the private life of his brother, despite the fact he talked about all of Albus’ awful flaws - but we could ask ourselves if falling in love - so not just be friend - with someone who wants to rule the world isn’t a “flaw”? And consequently, why Aberforth didn’t tell to the Golden Trio? idk (ok I don’t bloody know if it’s clear)

(if Dumbledore wanted to keep his former relationship with Grindelwald secrete, why he dropped the “closer than brothers” line also? fortunately, Travers and Theseus are a bit oblivious (or Albus said it because he knew they were not going to understand and it was funny?))

(this is the face of a man who drops huge revelations all the time but is amused because everyone miss them)

(sorry for the mistakes and shitpost, i wrote this quickly and it’s almost 4AM now so (ok this is not an excuse), i hope it’s understandable though)

[uths-ethnol-spam]

About Hogwarts Legacy in the late 1800s

(sorry for the mistakes!)

It’s happening in the 1800s. In the late 1800s.

Do you know who’s also at Hogwarts in the late 1800? Abelforth Dumbledore, Elphias Doge, but also Albus bloody Dumbledore.

(He’s born in 1881 if I remember right, so he entered at Hogwarts in 1891)

Do you think we are going to have background about him?

Imagine you walk in a corridor and in a secret room a young boy is writting letters in French about alchemy stuff and he has red hair

Imagine a quest about sweets and sherbet lemons

Imagine if there is a Triwizard Tournament and if your character is not a volunteer Albus is (and thus we could see another quite important wizard a bit younger than Albus)

(or imagine a quest about goats, or a moment we can cast spells at bullies who are insulting a young boy with dragonpox scars, etc)

Perhaps it will happen in 1870s yeah, and it will be as great - but I can’t help wondering why the late 1800s - and neither later nor sooner - and for now I don’t see another reason except Albus’ (and Abe’s and Elphias’) current presence

[bluecrownedbird]

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[dyrise]

(Be aware that this post contains spoilers)

Ok so I went to see SoD another time (my heart broke twice) and watching the last scene again made me realize something. Love is a key theme and at the end of the movie, the love all the characters (except for Dumbledore) feel towards someone has evolved in a positive way.

Queenie & Jacob : they marry each other and end up sealing their love.

Tina & Newt : they seem ready to acknowledge their love and to let it grow.

Newt & Theseus : they simply realize how much they mean to each other.

Abelforth & Credence : they truly want to learn how to love/ trust each other.

Bunty : her relationship with Newt isn’t exactly what she hoped for, but she understands that this form of love is still precious and she values it more than ever.

Yusuf : he thought that he only sought revenge but in reality, he cared about Leta and was always capable of love.

But if you think of Dumbledore and Grindelwald…

Dumbledore understands that the love he feels for Grindelwald will never fade, but he can’t give in to it anymore. "Do what’s right, not what’s easy".

It’s truly heartbreaking because we know that he will always remind the others how precious love is… despite being himself so unfortunate in love. He was loved and he loved people, but in the end he’s the one who was never able to "love freely" the man he desired.

[estian65]

[HP7]

""My brother Albus always wanted a lot of things," Abelforth interrupted him, "and the people around him had a bad habit of taking a beating whenever he carried out his grand plans."

DO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NEWT, THESEUS, LALLY, JACOB... ???

Albus : no, remember worrying makes you suffer twice...

[shinmiyovvi]

That's Not My Neighbor Timeline

This timeline will show some tidbits of what would be the story of my ocs before the events of the game itself because I have my brain working late at night and I want to share this with you guys :3. This will contain some spoilers about the formation of the D.D.D. and the beginning of the Trojan Horse Project.

1945

Oswald D. Keppler founded the Department of Doppelganger Detection as the General Director of the said department.

The Trojan Horse Project was funded by the Military Department of the Government with Keppler as the General Director of the project and Dr. W. Afton as the Lead Scientist of the said project. 

Some of the prominent employees of the department are Dr. Stanford Abelforth and Dr. Aditha Gulliver who have contributed their expertise in their specialized fields. Both are dedicated to the experiments being conducted in the lab and were praised by many.

1946

A teenager Ollie was scribbling in his notebook about vehicles, fascinated by the world of motorsports. While engrossed with his hobby, a loud noise can be heard outside of his room. His mother cried from fear as she tried to grab the telephone to contact the police, only for the doppelganger that was in the form of his father to kill her before she could utter a word through the phone. Curious and frightened, Ollie rushes out of his room to get the whole glimpse of the disgruntled form of his father. 

Before the doppelganger can kill Ollie, Lazaro happens to arrive earlier than expected as he quickly grabs Ollie away, causing him to have a scar on his right eye. He then grabs his pistol and shoots the doppelganger 4 times. Despite knowing that it's just the doppelganger of his older brother, he feels guilty for doing it. After the events had happened, Ollie then lived with his nonna and aunt throughout his life before moving in to live with his uncle.

In the same year, Ruslan Gulliver, the husband of Aditha, was hired by the D.D.D. as the first doorman of the apartment building that he would be working on. Throughout his job, he encounters different doppelgangers of the tenants in which he is capable of diminishing the differences between the original and the latter. 

1947

Aditha begins to feel unease with the project as she only tells her concerns about Stanford which he is the only person she could trust. Although she also wants to reveal the purpose and objective of the project to her husband Ruslan while having a dilemma whether to reveal it or not, her life is cut short after finding out that Afton happens to hear her conversation with Stanford. Her death was orchestrated by Afton who sent out a doppelganger that was in the form of her husband to “silence” her before she could even report this to the authorities despite the project being funded by the government as she believes this is considered “immoral” and “dangerous” to humanity.

The real Ruslan finds out about this from Stanford as he goes to save her, only to see her dead by the said doppelganger. Out of pure rage, he grabs a sledgehammer, hitting the doppelganger several times before he is now covered in blood. The next year, he quit his job as a doorman before returning years later as a building janitor to reveal the truth beneath the lies of the department.

1951

Delora is an office clerk who works the 9-to-5 shift at a business company. After her shift, she plans on visiting her parents after a tiring day at work from filing documents to answering phone calls through the telephone. When she arrived at the Steding Residence, she noticed the door was open. Curious, she went inside the house, hearing faint weeping noises from the kitchen. To her surprise, she saw her “aunt” from her mother’s side covered in blood as the cold lifeless body of her parents was lying on the floor.

Her “aunt” told her a fabricated story where a doppelganger got inside the house while she was visiting her parents to bring some apple pie. She also stated that she already called the police and was on the way to the scene. Delora noticed the slight difference between her aunt as she doesn't recall her having amber eyes and her mother has grayish ones as well as a mole on her chin. Not buying the story, she grabs a kitchen knife and stabs the doppelganger that was impersonating her aunt at least 7 times as the police arrived into the scene.

One of the officers tries to arrest her but Lazaro stops them midway from handcuffing Delora. He wants to interrogate her first from the beginning until the end of the story about the death of her parents and her alibi. She was taken to the station and asked several questions, once her alibi was considered valid, Lazaro let her go and ended the case. That day forward, Delora becomes more cautious around her surroundings as she develops mistrust of the people she happens to meet.

1955

The business company Delora worked in suddenly went into bankruptcy, causing her to lose her job as an office clerk. While looking for other job opportunities, a mysterious man who happens to be one of the members of D.D.D. gave her a proposition of working as a doorwoman of the apartment building. He believes that her skills of telling which is the doppelganger could stop the rampant invasion of doppelgangers in the building and would be a vital help towards society. Delora was hesitant at first, but she agreed either way.

In February of the same year started her job as the doorwoman of the building in which she encountered different tenants living in each apartment room of the said resident. There she met Ruslan and Stanford who shared a distrust of the D.D.D. and told her to be mindful of the organization that hired her. Throughout her time as a doorwoman, she begins to feel doubtful of the organization as she wants to find out the truth from the lies that the government fabricated to keep the image of the D.D.D. intact. With her snooping around, Dr. Afton becomes more mindful and observant of her actions as her involvement will cause them gravely.

[voirfilm-lesanimauxfantastiques3]

Distribution

Eddie Redmayne : Norbert Dragonneau

Jude Law : Albus Dumbledore

Ezra Miller : Croyance (Credence) Bellebosse / Aurelius Dumbledore

Dan Fogler : Jacob Kowalski

Alison Sudol : Queenie Goldstein

Callum Turner : Thésée Dragonneau

Jessica Williams : Eulalie « Lally » Hicks

Mads Mikkelsen : Gellert Grindelwald

William Nadylam : Yusuf Kama

Poppy Corby-Tuech : Vinda Rosier

Victoria Yeates : Bunty

Richard Coyle : Abelforth Dumbledore

Maria Fernanda Cândido : Vicência Santos

Oliver Masucci : Anton Vogel

Dave Wong : Liu Tao

Alexander Kuznetsov : Helmut

Fiona Glascott : Minerva McGonagall

Katherine Waterston : Tina Goldstein

[childotkw]

Pour la dame je pense à Ariana.

Je le souvien je tu avais dit que tu ne pouvais pas révélé de choses sur abelforth ( je crois ) donc je le vois bien complice de Ariana.

Elle a tuer grindelwald qui a en quelque sorte ruiner sa relation avec son frère ( enfin albus était déjà un con ).

De plus je crois que le vampire a dit qu’il restait avec la dame ca il l’as trouve intéressante.

Donc il peut penser que son histoire et sa vengeance peut le divertir.

Mais après je ne vois pas pourquoi elle ciblerais Tom.

Au contraire si elle veut se venger de dumbeldore elle s’allierait plutôt à lui .

For the Lady I think of Ariana. I remember you said you couldn't reveal anything about Abelforth (I think) so I can see him being Ariana's accomplice. She killed Grindelwald which somehow ruined her relationship with her brother (well Albus was already a jerk). Besides, I think the vampire said he was staying with the Lady and he found her interesting. So he may think that his story and his revenge can entertain him. But then I don't see why she would target Tom. On the contrary, if she wanted revenge on Dumbledore, she would ally herself with him instead.

Certainly an interesting theory!

[chaotiicgoods]

@sixvisxpacem​ said: 💝 + Credence

CREDENCE & NAGINI: I love their bond in the movie, I feel like they understand each other deeply because they have a similar background, even if the circumstances were not exactly the same. I don’t know how the movies will end, but I have a verse in which Credence remained in Newt’s case and didn’t age during that time so he could still be there in the Golden trio era, and I would love to explore that, too. It would be sad 😢

I would also like to explore other ships in my verse in which he’s Abelforth’s grandson, maybe with Hermione! 

SEND 💝 + ONE OF MY MUSES AND I’LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF MY FAVORITE SHIPS FOR THEM AND/OR SHIPS I’D BE INTERESTED IN WRITING | ACCEPTING

[lovinmybaguettes]

Harry Potter in French, part 2 - Characters

Part 1 here

A lot of obscure characters are probably left so if I gather enough names I’ll do a second post! Those are the main ones, most other characters have kept their names or undergone a very slight alteration.

Drago Malefoy = Draco Malfoy

Neville Londubat = Neville Longbottom (Londubat = “long du bas” = longbottom)

Lavande Brown = Lavender Brown

Olivier Dubois = Oliver Wood

Pénélope Deauclaire = Penelope Clearwater

Severus Rogue = Severus Snape (Rogue means arrogant, scornful)

Dolores Ombrage = Dolores Umbridge

Alastor Maugrey (aka Maugrey Fol Œil) = Alastor Moody (aka Mad-Eye Moody)

Sibylle Trelawney = Sybill Trelawney

Professeur Chourave = Professor Sprout

Mme Bibine = Mrs Hooch

Professeur Gobe-Planche = Professor Grubbly-Plank (I love her name lol)

Argus Rusard = Argus Filch (rusé means sly)

Mme Pomfresh = Mrs Pomfrey

Mimi Geignarde = Moaning Myrtle (geignarde = whiner)

Nick Quasi-Sans-Tête = Nearly Headless Nick

Le Baron Sanglant = the Bloody Baron

La grosse dame = the Fat Lady

Le Chevalier du Catogan = Sir Cadogan

Tom Elvis Jedusor = Tom Marvolo Riddle (changed to fit the acronym “Je suis Lord Voldemort”; Jedusor is a wordplay on “jeux du sort” (games of fate) but is pronounced “jéduzor”; and since his middle name is his grandfather’s, Marvolo Gaunt was changed to Elvis Marvolo Gaunt)

Celui-Dont-On-Ne-Doit-Pas-Prononcer-Le-Nom = He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named

Tu-Sais-Qui/Vous-Savez-Qui (depending the level of familiarity between the characters talking) = You-Know-Who

Le Seigneur des ténèbres = the Dark Lord

Peter Pettigrow = Peter Pettigrew

Stan Rocade = Stan Shunpike

Ludo Verpey = Ludo Bagman

Barty Croupton Sr./Jr. = Barty Crouch Sr/Jr

Mondingus Fletcher = Mondungus Fletcher

Abelforth Dumbledore = Aberforth Dumbledore (possibly changed bc we’d choke on our saliva trying to pronounce it??)

Bathilda Tourdesac = Bathilda Bagshot

Norbert Dragonneau = Newt Scamander (possibly a reference to the dragon Hagrid raises in the first book)

Hedwige = Hedwig

Crockdur = Fang

Buck = Buckbeak

Fumseck = Fawkes

Coquecigrue = Pigwidgeon

Croûtard = Scabbers

Pattenrond = Crookshanks

Miss Teigne = Mrs Norris

Touffu = Fluffy

Kreattur = Kreacher

Graup = Grawp