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Arcane's Jayce & Viktor: A Tech Industry Perspective
I've been wrestling with whether to make a short and sweet post about these points or to just have another long-winded meta and clearly since I'm incapable of being brief, I guess we'll just dive in.
I work in tech. What I see in this industry colors a lot of how I see Jayce and Viktor in Arcane. I'll try to be brief about a few of the things that stand out to me the most and that I think are intentional.
1 ) Jayce and Viktor are references to Alfred Nobel - This is a historical reference so direct I genuinely don't know how people grasp Jayce and Viktor's characters if you don't know about it.
Alfred Nobel is known for two things: inventing dynamite and bequeathing his subsequent fortune to founding the Nobel Peace Prize. These things are very much related.
Nobel was brilliant but socially naive. When he invented dynamite, he intended it to make life easier and safer for working in mines. Sound familiar? That is literally what the Atlas Gauntlets and Hex Claw Jayce and Viktor invented with Hextech was posed to be. It is a direct reference to Alfred Nobel and dynamite, there is no question about it in my mind whatsoever that they pose the benefit to society as specifically being useful to miners.
Nobel also believed that the awesome destructive power of dynamite would mean the end of warfare. Literally. He thought it was so disgusting and unthinkable that people would use explosives on each other that it would grind violence to a halt. He was very, very wrong about this. So wrong, in fact, that he spent the rest of his life in horror and remorse at how explosives were being used to kill people and created the Nobel Peace Prize to promote innovations aimed at peace, a prize which annually recognizes those who "conferred the greatest benefit to humankind".
Likewise with Jayce and Viktor, they are both horrified to imagine Hextech used for warfare and we think they're incredibly socially naive for thinking this, because they are. Maybe in another universe, there'd be the Talis Peace Prize to try to make up for what they unleashed on the world. Which brings me to my next point:
2 ) Jayce and Viktor have typical engineer blindspots to society's ills - As I've discussed in-depth in another meta, Jayce and Viktor both desperately needed some non-STEM or scientific classes in their life because their worldview is so naive and stunted as a result that it's the source of a dizzying number of their problems. Neither of them could even consider that Hextech, like dynamite, would be weaponized immediately. But they have other huge gaps too as a result of their narrow focus on science, and I do believe this is intentional by the writers as a commentary on engineers and tech people in general.
Short version, Jayce desperately needs some understanding of history and of rhetoric. When Ambessa asks him if his school teaches military history, he doesn't even know if they offer it. She was testing him with that question and as a canny manipulator and general, she clearly takes that to mean she can run circles around him, and she is right. Because with incredibly simplistic plays to his male ego, like calling his leadership "impotent", Ambessa immediately gets Jayce riled up and not thinking clearly. She blindfolds him, spins him around, and shoves him headlong into taking violent military action in exactly the direction she wanted him to go in to kick the nest and set off a war.
Jayce is also easily manipulated by Mel for more benevolent but still self-serving reasons with appeals to his life's work with flattery, his male ego with sex, and his dreams for a better world to make him fall quickly into step with the city's corruption with only a little nudging because he has no strong civic understanding of his own to fall back on. As Cait notes, he's never taken an interest in the Council or politics before until he becomes a Councilor himself.
Short version for Viktor, he wants to make the world a better place but he's never actually had to think through human nature before. He's literally never bothered. We know this because of his blindspot towards Hextech weaponry where he truly believed they could avoid it being used for warfare, and the fact that later in his cult, he's somehow shocked to learn that people will do bad things for the ones they love and won't just slice pieces of their own nature and personality off to fit into his little Utopian commune.
Literally cracking any kind of history or sociology book or heck, a Pratchett Discworld book, would have told him that there's a straight fucking line between deciding people are the problem when it comes to fixing society's ills and eugenics. He falls headlong into that trap and it requires his older, wiser self to beat him over the head with the truth of the horrors of his own simplistic worldview would lead to before he literally annihilates all life in his home city in his attempt to save it.
Which brings me to my next point:
3 ) Jayce and Viktor as oblivious tech nerds who have never cracked a book open but suddenly thinking that because they're great engineers, they have the solution to all of life's problems.
This is a somewhat shorter point, but I think in modern society we all know about the proverbial tech bro who keeps reinventing things like public transportation and taxes because they've never read a book in their life that doesn't have equations in it.
To be clear, they aren't bad people! I'd even hazard to say that young tech bros trying to make public good-based startups with a laughable lack of social awareness aren't bad people either! If anything, the education system has failed them, and they're pouring their intellect and earnest, human desire to help others into endeavors with the narrowest possible world perspective, which happens to be their field of expertise and thus it makes sense they'd see that as the greatest value that can offer, it's just too limited a view so they end up reinventing things that already exist or making worse, more dangerous versions of things that already exist. Tragically, their naive but well-meaning worldview often leads to:
4 ) Viktor and Jayce, but mostly Jayce, as tech bros being beholden to billionaire interests to make their dream come true:
Like Jayce, we see how these tech bros have their vision co-opted by people with a broader vision and understanding of the world, by billionaire investors who turn their inventions into making a quick buck for themselves, to warmongers and dictators who turn the creations of their mind into surveillance state horror stories. Some of that is a lack of wisdom on their parts when it comes to building in safeguards, sure, but part of that is there is a class divide too between the powerful and bright-eyed young inventors who just want to improve the world. As Singed notes, no one in power is ever innocent. And those in power have the capital to make a young inventor's dream come true and thus, tie them to their demands and interests. As Jayce said, they built the Hexgates, "Like [the Councilors] asked." Specifically this indicates that their vision has already been co-opted to serve financial interests. It also, again, makes it almost laughable how naive they are that they didn't realize warfare was next after trade.
Like many tech bros with billionaire investors, Jayce relied on the Kirammans, who were one of the wealthiest people in the city and literally on the Council that represents the State, and on Mel who is also part of the State, who is the wealthiest woman in Piltover, and who comes from a family of world-conquering warmongers, to make his dream come true from the very start.
From the beginning, Jayce was at a losing disadvantage when it came to keeping his dream ideologically pure and free of the influence of the wealthy and powerful.
And finally, just to point out that I'm not making this up, that these parallels are in fact intentional and built into the story:
4 ) Jayce and Viktor as parallels to Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, founders of Apple. Christian Linke, co-creator of Arcane, specifically noted them as inspirations for Jayce and Viktor's relationship, with Jayce (Jobs) as the face of the company and Viktor (Woz) as the real brains behind the invention.
This caused a lot of sturm and drang on Twitter with people misinterpreting that he means Jayce isn't the actual inventor of Hextech, which I think is an overreaction. Jobs, unlike many tech bros who have earned society's ire lately like Musk, was actually an engineer too. It's completely common in tech spaces for partnerships to be made up of one partner who is able to handle being the public face of the company, and one introverted and socially awkward genius who prefers to sit in a dark room and actually tinker with the problem and who would literally rather set themselves on fire than talk to a non-technical human being. I know because I've been in such partnerships before myself as the public face.
Where Jayce and Viktor rather charmingly buck the stereotypes of that relationship and so in turn actually make it more like what I've seen in the real world, is the fact there isn't resentment between the two as a result. Viktor is glad that Jayce is willing to be the public face and doesn't want to get in the way. This is actually very common with the engineers I know! It's not seen as glory stealing, it's seen as sparing them awful, painful work they don't want to do, like networking.
Yes it means Jayce needs to sacrifice some time in the lab, but it's a simple division of labor that he's happy to do, especially if it frees Viktor from the responsibility so he can focus on what he loves, because Jayce loves him. And you'll note that Jayce is very above-board academically speaking on this front, he always cites Viktor as his partner and is scrupulous in giving Viktor credit, in conversation at least, even if he doesn't forcibly drag Viktor on stage to take credit there.
Anyway, when I write meta or even fic for these two, this sort of background is always on my mind, and I thought it might be valuable for others who maybe aren't as familiar with the tech space as I am.
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Dear Big Brother
kind of a sequel to this comic
#FINALLY FINISHED IT. THIS HAS BEEN SITTING UNFINISHED FOR ALMOST A FUCKING YEAR#and of course i get around to it right after making that stupid masterpost. well there's another one to add i guess#anyway. this was originally now that you're gone part 2. basically aryll's counterpart to their dad's perspective#botw#loz#skribbles#i will say ignoring this for so long was good actually because it confirmed my suspicions that my pen pressure no longer works#the way it used to. so if you see any weird inconsistencies between panels or pages it's not me it's my fucking tech#for some reason i need WAY more pressure than i used to to get the same level of opacity in sai which is. not great for my hands#but whatever ive gotten used to it by now. ignore the inconsistencies in this comic its fine
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he's been trying to switch to space linux since his posting
#star wars#the clone wars#commander fox#star wars art#fox was elated at first but then he’s the only tech support guy and has to go and manually fix everything. he’s at his limit#shout out to orgs that still use xp for specific machines lol#pls don’t mind the lack of consistent perspective ToT i am a hater and was called upon to make this quickly b4 bed#doveart#dovepost
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- sometimes the doctor's diagnosis isnt something u wanna hear -
perspective practice, this was super hard to do bleghh
if u wanna see the struggle, the speedpaint is under the cut
#i wanted to Give Up but i pushed through#i want to incorporate perspective more in my art#the bad batch#tbb#tbb tech#tbb echo#pretzldoodle#star wars#sw
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#the perspective of the photo does not show what a giant this guy was#he was fucking massive#pylons#divine machinery#power lines#angels#technology#techcore#tech#liminal#electrical towers#electricity pylon#electrical tower#electricity#power tower#power line#pylon
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pov you’ve become of interest to the reconditioned trooper
#the bad batch#tbb tech#cx tech#cxtech#he’s grabbing your chin not giving you a thumbs up I swear#warm up sketch#trying to work on perspective again
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So I haven't rewatched the Bad Batch season 1 finale in its entirety in months, but for some reason Crosshair's "You weren't loyal to me!" has been stuck in my head all day, and now I'm wondering if Hunter ever outright told Crosshair that the squad had been planning on coming back for him.
I mean, we as the audience know the squad never planned on leaving Crosshair behind on Kamino, and Hunter was literally on his way to find him when Crosshair confronted them in the hangar; but Crosshair didn't know that. From his perspective, his squad had been arguing with him again right before he was taken to undergo some sort of medical procedure, and then he's sent after his squad who are all escaping, and he finds them in the hangar prepping to leave - apparently without him. And of course when he and Hunter start arguing, the fact that Hunter had been coming to find him never gets brought up.
None of this is to say that I agree with Crosshair's subsequent actions in season 1. Even if the squad WAS planning on leaving him behind, Crosshair isn't justified in shooting at them and trying to kill them (multiple times over) - inhibitor chip or not.
Still, it does make me wonder to what extent the thought that he had been abandoned added fuel to the fire of his anger in season 1. And I'm inclined to believe it might have even made him think he was being generous by offering his disloyal brothers a chance to rejoin him by joining the Empire.
And it does make me wonder if, post-season 2, he ever opened up to Hunter enough that Hunter could explain the truth of the situation.
#the bad batch#star wars the bad batch#tbb crosshair#tbb hunter#tbb tech#tbb wrecker#tbb echo#tbb omega#i genuinely love the opportunities the show gives us to examine different points of view#and the importance of considering multiple perspectives to get a fuller picture of the situation
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Redrawing some old stuff
#i see tech as not being particularly into physical touch but his siblings are among the few people he accepts it from#tech tbb#omega tbb#clone trooper tech#art#struggling a little with how i’m drawing tech atm i’m sure i’ll get there again eventually#edit i messed with the perspective on his arm a little it’s still not right but whatever
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i have NOT been losing my mind for weeks over ruben’s horrified Psychic Scream after ivy and oisin died and buddy running to ruben to cure him from Slow and lucy saying ruben was her really good friend just for people on this stupid website to say that the rat grinders didnt care about each other. im going to kill myself
#i fucking HATE IT HERE sorry im only ever here to BITCH nowadays#but like how can u be so wrong on the watsonian AND doylist perspective#THE TRG DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIVE EACH OTHER HALF OF THEM WENT DOWN IMMEDIATELY!!!!#AND DND VILLAINS ARENT ALLOWED TO BRING PPL BACK BC IT UNDERMINES THE CAST/HEROES’ VICTORIES#sam speaks#sorry im normal now#been tech-ing a show and very busy with work so no art yet but im working on it
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commission art! proud of how it turned out <3
#digital art#art#tech#scifi#scifi art#mech#battletech#battletech art#battletech fanart#military tech#scenery art#perspective art
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Techtober prompt 11 - Tech + flannel + cowboy hat
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A little bit late for @neurodivergent-tech-week but here we go!
I wrote (and played/sang!) a song about Tech BadBatch, and all our Feelings about him! (Yes, Tech lover, This Is For You!)
It's about the gift of having such a wonderfully-written autistic hero in a big TV show, seeing him develop and shine... and then losing him (to falling into some clouds, where we can't see him), and the way it really felt like we were being led-on about a return, and just... all the pain that came with that. But ultimately like any story, he's ours, we caught him, we see him, and loving him will never be a mistake. <3
And then I made a lyric video, which I hope y'all will find snazzy. :D
Thank you so much for watching/listening/being in this fandom with me!
#NDTech2024#Tech Bad Batch#Bad Batch Tech#Tech Lives#The Bad Batch#Star Wars#Sylver Sings Things#Youtube#Oh and it's the Special Interest day bc he sure as hell became one of mine lmao#and this is written from an extremely ND perspective
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dr. stone: humans were born to create, and every scientific discovery we've made has been for the sake of community.
me, thru tears: ur so fucking right.
#dr. stone#goddd im rereading dr stone and i forgot how much i love this manga#even IF the mangaka somehow manages to draw women even worse than one piece does#but anytime i feel shitty about modern tech/humanity in general ive gotta come back to this#so i can re-experience the whimsy of human creation#seeing the work put into creating this era's first antibiotic or light bulb gives sm perspective on stuff we dont even think about nowadays#like HOLY SHIT! its INCREDIBLE we did that#i cannot recommend this series enough everyone pls pls pls go check it out
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I've only started drawing last month. I am currently doing digital art using a mouse for the Summer of Bad Batch prompts, which both are whole new learning curve for me. I just want to say....
HOW DO ANY OF YOU DRAW ANYTHING YOU GUYS ARE ALL SO GOOD
HANDS
LIPS
EYES???
WHAT IS HAIR??????
TECH? HOW DO I DRAW TECH???
#imperialsprig#the bad batch#tech always turns out with a chubby face#art is hard#you guys are all so good#best artists#pat pat#artists on tumblr#dont even get me started on PERSPECTIVE
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you NEVER need to wait “until you have the money” to start practicing witchcraft. you do not need ANY money for witchcraft. you can have all the money in the world and practice witchcraft every single day without spending a single cent on it. everything you need you already have, inside of you and around you as well.
#i mean this literally. incredibly literally.#you can do advanced forms of magic without ANY MONEY. even if you live in a city and cant forage or anything.#you have YOURSELF. and you are a powerful being.#energy work! look at that! you need nothing for it!#you can INCLUDE ANYTHING in your craft#you dont even need to though#witch tips#witchblr#beginner witch#baby witch#closeted witch#closet witch#this is from a secular witchcraft perspective btw ik there are religious practices that require specific tools etc. but i know nothing abou#those because i am a pantheist pagan lmao#but i mean. i know a little bit about deity work so im also gonna say you don’t necessarily NEED anything to work with them either!#unless its a specific tradition youre following#but offerings can be actions instead of physical goods. you can do divination using like.. the clouds.#AND TECH MAGIC! if you can see this right now then you have every form of tech magic available to you right now.#txt
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