#a real 'cultural christian'
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hadesoftheladies · 23 days ago
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western women in privileged countries, when feminists from the global south tell you to watch out for white men and that your superiority complex won't save you, it is not an insult, it is a warning
what happens to women in the global south isn't happening because we have dark skin or non-european cultures. the threat that terrorizes us openly that makes you feel pity for us is not unique to us. that threat is in your bed, too.
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fruityumbrella · 4 months ago
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one piece is set in a nautical world with presumably nautical idioms and exclamations to match, right, like swearing by the sea rather than on a god etc. to wit, there's five seas (the four blues + the grand line) so we can assume when you're feeling particularly dramatic, you might refer to all those vast oceans to get your hyperbolic point across.
keeping that in mind, lets live in a stupidly romantic corny ass world for a moment ok? take my hand.
"I swear on all six seas, if you don't shut the fuck up right now—"
"What?" Sanji looks at him like he's stupid. Nothing new, really.
"Ha, even you're going deaf having to listen to your own annoying ass whining all the time, Cook. I was—"
"No, you—"
"Don't interrupt me! Oi!" he yelps as a wooden spoon bounces harmlessly off his shoulder. He's not impressed that Sanji manages to catch it before it hits the counter.
"You said six seas," Sanji states.
Zoro stares back in lieu of an answer.
"Huh, maybe this has something to do with why you're always lost. There's only five seas, dummy."
And ah, now he gets what the idiot cook is on about. He's surprised and a little disappointed, honestly. You'd think the guy would be a little more aware about his own fucking dream, but whatever. He's got that annoying smile, smug and cocky like he's oh so much better than Zoro.
"Would you like me to count them out for you? I know it's a big number, it's probably confusing for a simple creature like you."
Zoro crosses his arms in clear warning, something the cook, as always, blatantly ignores. He's leaning on the counter that's between them now, eyes sparkling with glee. Idiot. Zoro's thoughts do not have a fond tone to them. Thoughts don't have tones at all, thank you very much.
Sanji lifts a hand and proceeds to count off on his fingers with the precision of a drill sergeant.
"I'm sure you at least know our ocean, the East Blue. There's also the West Blue, North Blue, South Blue, and of course the Grand Line," he wiggles all his fingers as he puts his thumb up for the last one like he's emulating fireworks.
Zoro snorts indelicately. "And?"
Sanji frowns with a tilt of his head.
"And?"
Zoro holds up his index finger.
"And," he says, stifling his amusement as Sanji goes cross eyed trying to follow said finger as it arcs towards him, "your All Blue. Dummy."
He punctuates the last word by poking Sanji in the forehead, snickering when he sputters and swats the digit away in a huff. Then Zoro's words finally sink in, and he straightens up almost too fast. It's not endearing at all.
"Wait," he says quietly, "you count it?"
Zoro doesn't like how Sanji's looking at him with an open expression he's not usually allowed. He looks earnest and sincere. Zoro feels suddenly out of his depth.
"Don't you?" he deflects uncomfortably.
"Well yeah, but that's different. You're—" he shrugs half heartedly and looks away. Zoro can't tell if the end of that sentence was going to disparage him or the cook. Odds are likely split down the middle. Sanji keeps looking at him, and he feels pinned. The bright look is gone, replaced by something more reserved but perhaps...searching? Considering, at the least. It's making him increasingly self conscious. He needs to get out of here.
"Okay. I'm gonna steal some alcohol now," he says shortly, striding to the cabinet and swiping a bottle before Sanji blinks out of his stupor.
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finalgirlsamwinchester · 8 months ago
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guy who so desperately tries to find god. who wants to have faith in a higher authority to guide him out of the hole he's in. from the weight of guilt from simply existing, as the person he is. but every time he thinks he's answered his higher calling it turns out he's made the Morally Incorrect choice and his path to goodness and holiness was the road to the devil all along
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jewishbarbies · 7 months ago
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so much antisemitism comes from pop culture insisting being jewish is JUST a religion and you can’t convince me otherwise.
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blujayonthewing · 2 years ago
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#I've played with irl atheists and catholics and everything in between#but it rarely feels like faith is a real factor for anyone-- DM or player#outside of‚ again‚ divine spellcasters and Big Epic Plot Things#I mean there are a couple of 'RAAAHGH FUCK THE GODS >:C' edgy backstory types but#no one is just Normally Culturally Religious and it's WEIRD#like it's not even a matter of faith in dnd! the gods are LITERALLY OBJECTIVELY PROVABLY REAL#so what does that MEAN for the average person! how does it shape language? business? culture?#where are the people wearing holy symbols like amulets-- or the way modern christians very casually wear crosses?#blessings over meals? prayers before bed? burnt offerings?#and like I enjoy thinking about world and culture building but I know that's A Whole Thing but even just like...#it doesn't feel like anyone believes in gods at all except clerics and paladins#like they DO because they factually exist but in the same way I 'believe in' like. the president of france.#like yeah he exists and is important to some people but has no bearing on my life whatsoever#that's such a fucking weird approach to the DIVINE in a polytheist world where those gods are YOUR CULTURE'S GODS??#I am bad at this myself but I'm not religious so it's harder for me to remember what Being Religious All The Time Casually is like lol#funny enough my character with the most intentionally religious background in this sense#is one of my ones who's ended up wrapped up in Big Plot God Things lmao#'aubree starts the campaign with a holy symbol of yondalla because of course she does why wouldn't she'#'oh okay well she's gonna get deeply and personally entangled with a bunch of death gods immediately' fdkjghkdf oh!! welp#you don't really pray to urogalan unless you're breaking ground for a new building or someone just died so it's STILL weird for her lol#but at least I had the framework there of 'oh yeah the gods exist and matter to me and my everyday life and culture' in general#about me#posts from twitter
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deservedgrace · 11 months ago
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Xtianity putting so much weight in self sacrifice means you can't complain when putting your all into the church god causes you harm, because "Jesus gave the ultimate sacrifice and we're called to sacrifice things joyfully and graciously and complaining and being ungrateful is a sin"
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jstor · 2 years ago
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The first sentence in this book (not the one in the preview above) sure got us interested. We're not going to post it here, though, because chances are high that it would get us in trouble. The book is open access, so go check it out yourself, you!
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prolibytherium · 4 months ago
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No hate I’ve just got like.. The absolute polar opposite opinion. I tend to be less into high fantasy where gods are confirmed Real with little to no room for interpretation because of the way it often sets up dichotomies of like, the Correct/Good belief systems vs the Wrong/Bad belief systems. If gods are observably materially real with exact specific natures and correct interpretations, it just kind of Adds limitations that would not otherwise exist, and a lot of the times results in worlds that feel flat and lacking in diversity. I think this framework can be perfectly fine for fantasy but approaching it with the exact same lack of nuance I'm talking about lends to executions that are reductive at BEST.
Part of why I’m into the hard realism no canon magic/supernatural fantasy is because of how much freedom it gives to explore the full spectrum of belief systems. There's nothing about this framing that prevents you from treating belief systems in a thoughtful and serious manner, and if anything it's a better framework to explore the full implications and effects on reality of religious belief (because In Real Life religion is a personal/cultural lens to subjective reality and has profound societal effects without people having Empirically Provable interactions with deities or etc). And tbh I feel like thinking that having a religion be Canon Reality in a setting is the only way for beliefs to not be treated as Stupid just kind of loops back around into treating religious belief as Being Stupid (ie: it's only NOT stupid when it's a materially provable aspect of reality)
I think you can have a setting that embraces the idea of a religion people believe in by simply having a setting that embraces the idea of a religion people believe in. You know?
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clementimetodie · 2 years ago
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I think we need to start treating sexually impure thoughts as intrusive thoughts just like we do with thoughts that are violent or frightening
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brontes · 4 months ago
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Gonna get in trouble at church because I genuinely don’t think “Christian” media should exist as a genre. I think Christians should write good and even excellent stories about the nature of the human condition and if they truly follow Jesus the evidence of that joy and wisdom and goodness will pervade whatever they make whether they like it or not. Stop worrying about what you want people to learn like it’s a lesson and just say something true and beautiful.
And as an audience, stop being afraid of stories that might not agree with you and seek things that are good and true and beautiful.
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maaruin · 5 months ago
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I watched The Acolyte episode 7 and all throughout, I kept seeing parallels to the conflicts between conservative Evangelicals and progressive secular education in the United States, which has been one of the driving forces in the Culture Wars of the last decades. I think many viewers will miss this, because the coven has many symbols that make them seem unlike Evangelicals (they are "witches", all of them are women, two women had a child with each other), but the parallels are there:
The coven is similar to conservative Evangelicals: insular and isolated, very worried about its survival as a group, and sees the children as a means to ensure this survival. They are immediately suspicious of the Jedi and see them as a threat to their way of life.
The Jedi are similar to Progressives: they are centeres in the urban core and see themselves as promoting universal interests (instead of the interests of a particular group). They are worried about the children's safety in their religious group, but at the same time have an ideal of non-interference.
Osha has parallels to people who grew up Evangelical but didn't really fit in. In our world, such kids may be queer, or doubt their religious beliefs, or just be curious about life in "the world". Mae and many of the witches view her as a potential traitor because of that. And more than that they view the Jedi as intending to steal their child - in their view the Jedi have much more agency than Osha. When people who were raised Evangelical leave their faith, their former fellow believers often view this as them having fallen for outside manipulation.
Even Sol, who is in favor of taking Osha as a padawan, both respects her agency and doesn't intend to harm the coven. But Osha potentially leaving because of that would still be bad for the coven. This is actually a very important tension in religious freedom: the freedom of individuals to leave their religion is in conflict with protecting religious groups in their continued existence.
(More symbolically) Mae burning the Jedi book calls to mind attempts to ban books from schools because they are considered corrupting by some parents.
Neither group acts in a unified way. The tension escalates into violence because the more impulsive members of both groups act, well, impulsively.
We still don't know exactly what Mother Aniseya was trying to do when she turned into smoke. Sol didn't either but assumed that she was trying to harm her children. For someone outside a culture, it may be difficult to differentiate love and abuse in the interaction between parents and children in that culture - made even more difficult by the fact that love and abuse can overlap.
(This one is more of a stretch) When Indara forces the witches out of Kelnacca's mind, she ends up killing them. Even is someone only wants to fight the harmful ideas of a religious group, their action may end up destroying/damaging the group itself and not just the ideas.
The tragedy in The Acolyte was not inevitable. If people of both groups had acted more level-headed and tried to understand where the other was coming from, compromise may have been possible. Perhaps the same is true for our world.
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jackawful · 1 year ago
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fuck it, dipping my toes into the discourse again...noticing that literally everyone who has blocked me on tumblr for being pro-palestine in the past couple weeks has been american ex-christian jewish converts & meanwhile my irl ethnically jewish friends and chosen family are like. complaining about arguments with zionist relatives and going to pro-palestine protests and organizing donation drives for fauda and the palestinian red crescent. it's been extremely whiplash inducing.
and I can't help but notice that like...the propaganda that equates all support of decolonizing palestine with antisemitic violence is a very very similar amygdala hijack to the christian persecution complex I grew up steeped in. those with power in a religious community say "people like you are being hurt for their religion over there, therefore you are in danger here!" and like, I get its a little more complex because antisemitism is a real opressive force in the US, but it straight-up isn't in israel - and in fact, most of the israeli government propaganda I'm seeing is an attempt to equate palestinian defensive violence with antisemitic attacks in the US and Europe. the difference is that diaspora jews aren't agressors in a position of power, but israeli settlers absolutely are.
and like, I'm looking at this dynamic in light of the main discourse drama in these circles before early october being about how ex-christian atheists are sometimes antisemitic because of ~cultural christianity~ and then watching this shit come nigh-universally from ex-christian jewish converts and going like...hm. maybe the cultural christianity call is coming from inside the house this time.
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james-silenthill · 6 months ago
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People that refuse the concept that things might be culturally christian are chuckleheads
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bijoumikhawal · 6 months ago
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honestly my hot take is you can end up being culturally Christian if your family is irreligious enough even if all of you belong to a completely different religion, and even if you aren't irreligious being a minority within a majority means the majority culture and customs impacts you, whether you adopt those customs or run from them
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fencesandfrogs · 9 days ago
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"it's like this in any religion" is it actually or do you not have a frame of reference beyond your religion
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kavehater · 4 months ago
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Most funniest thing ever btw is a person who likes alhaitham and kaveh and has alhaitham as his pfp and kaveh in his banner yet is a raging Zionist
#do you see what I mean now when I call hoyo fans dumbasses ? just the way they beg for rep but when u tell them sumeru is heavily influence#influenced by Islam btw and the characters would be Muslim just as mondstadt characters are Christian#they pull up the erm achually!!! but when it’s natlan it’s oh ! if you want to rep a culture you gotta do it right 🥺#disrespectfully Stfu and die ✋😞#dora daily#no and the way they say oh it’s fantasy they’re literally worshipping nahida oh wow ! I didn’t know that ! like a church is something not#alluding to Christianity but oh they worship venti#then it’s the natlan mauvika pyro archon is represented by a Māori person#awesome ! but you do realise it’s fiction and that the game has never and will never be a history book never has been since mondstadt and#never will be#yet you guys are so outwardly racist outwardly Islamophobic#the real issue is that you pick and choose the minority you worship#hoyo has issues but I’ve never seen a group of more horrible people than it is the hoyo fandom with their picking and choosing#and it’s always the yaoi fetishisers dumbass disrespectful haikaveh shippers appropriating everything cause cute ! two men kissing or#whatever the fuck. men period are disgusting I thought we established this#but go on you dumbass colonisers and colonise and appropriate everything too lmao imagine having an alhaitham pfp and being a Zionist go ky#- kys cause tumblr sucks and made me stop mid word 🤨#😇😇😇😇
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