#Yellowjackets S2E7

[shaunashpmn]

“why do i give one single shit about this goat when lottie’s goons are just going to make me kill him?”

“well you’re not that innocent either.” “i know that, misty. do you seriously think i don’t know that?”

“because it is one thing if i stab this goat later, but there’s no fucking way it’s dying while i’m supposed to be watching it.”

“the kid’s care is intwined with your own.” • “what did you just say?”

“i don’t give a shit what the big lesson is gonna be, i’m not going to kill this fucking goat, okay? fuck you.” • “you don’t have to kill the goat.” • “wait, really? i really don’t?”

“i’m not crying about the goat. i don’t really know what’s happening right now? i think it’s just that i’ve always kept my daughter, y’know, callie, like, at arms’ length. like, just, out of fear that she would, die, i guess, or maybe that she was never even, real to begin with. i try to tell myself that it’s okay, that i’m safe to, to think of her as mine. y’know, and to just be her mom. but i think something is broken, lottie. i just can’t do it.”

yellowjackets season 2 episode 7: burial • melanie lynskey/“older shauna”

[docholligay]

Yellowjackets 2.7: Bullet Points

Hello! This is about up to Season 2, Episode 7 of Yellowjackets, and ONLY that of Yellowjackets. I have not seen beyond this spot, at all, and know NOTHING about this show. Please do not spoil it for me.  Things that are spoilery in nature, for me, include: saying things like  “Just wait!!” confirming or denying anything I put forward, outside information about the cast interviews or creator statements, leading questions like “Do you think “blank moment” means anything?” etc. Remember  that Y’ALL HAVE SEEN THE SHOW AND I HAVE NOT. This informs the way you  talk about things relating to the show. Just be really careful is all  I’m asking. Also: If there is LITERALLY any stance I  could take on this show or character that would make you upset, please  just fucking block the tag

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Not that I expect them to know this, but that snow is good insulation and they should pile it all against the sides of the cabin. 

Obviously the music in the opener changing so dramatically (I’ve been wondering if it’s changing, it seems I was right) means something about the fact that our leads are getting closer and closer to the wild thing they were in the forest--I can’t help but wonder how this is going to sustain itself over what I think are meant to be three more seasons. 

Obsessed with Ben’s psychosis and falling apart. How he is basically kicked out of his own reverie and forced to come back to the real world, and how he has this moment of immense despair. But even then, he can’t kill himself, he ends up asking Misty to do it for him. But! Misty’s full application of her manipulative powers here is so interesting, because for once it is not SHAME that guides Ben from doing what he wants to do, it is consideration. It is kindness. Whether Misty is actually distraught over the baby or not is pretty much irrelevant--Ben THINKS she is, and that’s what makes him decide to live. Ben decides to do something else for the good of another person, instead of to protect himself. 

I’m interested in Lotties assertion that the wilderness is not transactional, and then following that up with, “It gave us what we wanted” when they were worshipping it. Don’tr get me wrong, I am full on to a non-transational God figure, but it seems sort of transactional? Given that I think that, I wonder what the whole thing with Lottie allowing her ass to get beat is supposed to do. 

LOVE that Crystal is gone, and there’s no blood! If we’re gonna go full on with the ‘wilderness is real’ thing, which I remain a bit disappointed by, at least I want to see some truly fucked up paranormal shit. 

There’s a thing I think might be developing that I sort of…don’t want to discuss on main? Part of the problem is when you bring up a wrinkle in anything, there’s no room for nuance. Something is either a racist piece of shit or a tragically misujnderstood narrative. Something is either misogynistic or a deep understanding of women. This is homophobic or it must be life affirming. You’re a terf or no trans person is ever wrong, etc. So I guess I won’t bring it up, but god I find the internet’s inability to discuss anything in a nuanced manner annoying. ANYWAY. 

I don’t care that much about it, but it is minorly distracting--the snow and the breath in the cold are so fake ahaha. 

So the therapist has never been real! Has been the wilderness the whole time. I should have picked up on that so much earlier I feel like, i figured it right before they showed it, like, midsentence ahahah. “Does a hunt with no violence feed anyone?” is an interesting line. Not sure how I feel about it, I think it’s one of those things that sounds deep but doesn’t quite stand up to scrutiny. At least as an actual guideline for life--I could believe the wilderness saying this, because it craves blood. But the question is, “do you actually need this violence anymore, or are you falling into because it’s easier than living with the echoes of the past?” I mean to an extent, I think they convinced themselves of the necessity of their own violence, though admittedly I haven’t seen the actual hunts start yet. 

Is nat gonna die? Is this why her inner glow turn or whatever? 

So at the end it seems to suggest that the group is not necessarily aware of what they did, at least entirely. I am…interested to see where this goes. I feel a lot of ways about it at once, and I could coime out liking it a lot, or not at all, but it’s far far too early to say. I was taking it for granted that they knew what they were hiding, but I suppose now I’m not sure that’s true. Also lightly suggested that Misty perhaps remembers more, maybe owing to her being somewhat less destroyed by the whole overwhelming truth of what happened.

[lizlemondyke]

new yorks hottest club is s2e7 of showtime masterpiece Yellowjackets! it has everything— lesbian infedelity, terminal cancer, goats, and what’s that in the corner? (gasp!) postpartum fight club! you know, it’s that thing where the deeply traumatized mother of a stillborn baby takes out all her rage on the wilderness’s special priestess babygirl. plus, don’t miss grownups getting drunk like kids, a musical dream sequence, and the first misty-shauna grownup conversation ever!

[wide-eyedbrowns]

shauna landed some crazy hits on lottie like that's fucking crazy the wwe needs her

[fuckyeahelijahwoodfan]

I am floored by this scene. I love ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕 💘 ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ love it so much . Dancing Elijah is my favorite type of Elijah and this whole scene was so similar to the one in Wilfred.

I still believe that I am not the right audience for this show but I will watch anything, literally anything with Elijah in it so yep !!!.

[h0useofw0lves]

JOHN CAMERON MITCHELL???

[misty-caligula]

I can’t help but feel like...

Akilah, Tai, Misty, Melissa definitely give vibes that they just have nothing to contextualise this experience. Akilah and Tai looking away, unable to handle it. Melissa just overwhelmed and not knowing how to process it, struggling to remember to breathe. Misty intoxicated by the overt violence.

But Nat and Van are on their own levels. Nat’s just paralyzed with the same horror that she’s had seeing similar at home so many times. She looks on the absolute edge of a panic attack, because the last time she saw this exact situation she saw her dad die inches infront of her.

Van... Van, I think, is in two different places. Firstly, processing losing her faith in Lottie, I think that she shares some of Shauna’s rage. She looks... to me at least... vindicated. Like she’s been waiting for Lott to get punished, just as Lottie has been feeling that she should be herself.

But I think Van also on the flip side has to be thinking about the wolves. Has to be ... empathising. She looks kind of vacant, like she’s dissociated, particularly when Lott’s bloody, broken face goes still for a few sickening seconds before she coughs up the blood...

witnesses

[sublimestuffs]

Matthew 5:39, New International Version // Yellowjackets S2E7 ‘Burial’

[homopessimist]

the wolf holds the heart between her teeth

an american werewolf in london (1981) dir. john landis / florence + the machine - howl / yellowjackets s2e7: "burial" / moonface - heartbreaking bravery / týr and fenrir (1911) by john bauer / tumblr post from @lupi-usque-ad-finem / "hounds of iron | naafiri cinematic" - league of legends / mongrels (2016) by stephen graham jones / instagram post by @violenttradwife / have a nice life - hunter / tropical malady (2004) letterboxd review by frances meh / ethel cain - famous last words (an ode to eaters)

[saladgl0ve]

yellowjackets s2e7 is so important to me and every time I hear 'Lightning Crashes' I want to cry

[jackietaylorsweatervest]

S2E7 Burial - a post viewing rant

feeling like brokeback mountain tai tonight, head hung low, in solemnity. I just watched season 2 episode 7 'Burial' (yes i havent finished, don't sue me i like to take my time) and by god if that wasn't one of the greatest episodes of television i have ever witnessed in my short life. it was simply fantastic and topped the previous episode for me.

the way they weaved between the timelines was particularly good. i do not understand how they managed to fit in so much character development in one episode. like i feel like we learnt so much about shauna, misty, van, and lottie. i also found it really interesting how each one of their 'therapies' seemed to be really effective almost like it was planned .

i was nearly brought to tears by shauna and that stupid fucking goat. the manifestation of shauna's trauma through her estranged relationship with her daughter uugghhh. i cannot imagine what effect it would have had on her to lose the baby in the wilderness and it completely explains why shauna keeps callie 'at arms length'. the callback to jackie was also done fantastically. i miss her too though shauna, you're not special.

this episode had me thinking that misty isnt even that psychotic; baby just wants to be loved. her motives of not wanting her friend to be eaten actually warms my heart (doesnt excuse what she did). the fear of knowing that the body was out there and if it were to be found, mari would turn it into her next masterpiece of a stew, would be too much for me. i was also enjoying having all the girls on the compound just as much as she was. my very much needed comic relief.

ok taissa really turned up the crunchy gay vibes this episode like you know that women knows how to pitch a tent. (doesn't she have like a state to run or something?!?) the taivan moments were DELICIOUS and she was like REALLY getting into that kiss. i love how all it took was one kiss from her ex gf for her to start planning her divorce.

look van, your situation is tragic, really, but girl...you have had your face eaten off by wolves and have been burned alive TWICE like i think cancer is the least of your problems.

I FUCKING CALLED THAT LOTTIE'S THERAPIST WAS NOT REAL!!!! I KNEWWWWW IT. just thinking though, to be Lottie Matthew's therapist you'd have to be like the final boss therapist you get once you have defeated all other therapists. i find it very interesting that lottie wanted all the girls to go home once she had scared herself sufficiently (dont even ask me what that Antler Queen shit was about). All nat had to do was up the sexual innuendo and to get her to change her mind.

speaking of which, the lottienat truthers were FED this episode. like they're SOOO GAYYYY. I can feel a rage creeping up on me already. it's a preemptive rage. i am preparing myself for when the COWARD writers of this show do not deliver on the canon that we know we deserve in season 3. LIKE ITS ALL THERE. ALL THAT SET UP FOR... a wilderness lottienat kiss (*prays*). i will stop myself from speaking any further on the issue of lottienat (im sure you'll see the gifsets later - sorry in advance)

ok, and FINALLY. Of all the gore, bloodshed, and gruesome, or downright depraved moments in this show...NOTHING has come close to what i witnessed in the final scene of this episode. it is the only moment in yellowjackets where i have actually had to cover up what i was seeing on the screen. i am a big girl now and that was just too much for me. like, the cannibalism is one thing, but i draw the line at having to watch shauna shipman beat the shit out of lottie Matthew's pretty face. LIKE YOU CANT DO THAT TO HER. i was waiting and wanting so badly for natalie to step in and stop her but she just kept going. no one did anything and i dont get it. i understand that she needed to let her rage out but SHE WAS ABOUT TO KILL HER WTF. when lottie put her hands behind her back, my heart sunk bro. shauna you violent bitch. lottie you pathological people pleaser.

yea, great ep

[shaunashpmn]

we don’t talk about the scene where shauna goes to bury her son in the snow and then instead of going back to the cabin she goes to what is essentially jackie’s grave/place of remembrance enough.

“it’s you and me against the whole world.” into “jackie…i really need you right now.”, because she thought that if she just had her son, she could do it without jackie. she longed for jackie but she still had love to give, until now. now everything she has is jackie, because the one thing she thought she had that wasn’t her is gone. her daughter, her husband, her life, everything is jackie.

there is no baby without shauna and there is no shauna without jackie.

[docholligay]

Yellowjackets 2.7: Misty

Hello! This is about up to Season 2, Episode 7 of Yellowjackets, and ONLY that of Yellowjackets. I have not seen beyond this spot, at all, and know NOTHING about this show. Please do not spoil it for me.  Things that are spoilery in nature, for me, include: saying things like  “Just wait!!” confirming or denying anything I put forward, outside information about the cast interviews or creator statements, leading questions like “Do you think “blank moment” means anything?” etc. Remember  that Y’ALL HAVE SEEN THE SHOW AND I HAVE NOT. This informs the way you  talk about things relating to the show. Just be really careful is all  I’m asking. Also: If there is LITERALLY any stance I  could take on this show or character that would make you upset, please  just fucking block the tag

If you WOULD like to discuss the show and my takes on it, the Discord is right here! I don’t go there, so it’s a great place to get every emotion out.

Please thank @sailorsunspot and @moonlight-frittata for backing this odd way of doing a liveblog, and remember my tip jar is always open

These last two episodes have been so humanizing for Misty, and I really love the turn even as I enjoy Misty as this sort of vague nefarious spirit. It’s really something in this episode to see that it hurts her, that other people don’t think of her as human. It’s incredible to see that she herself is worried about why she isn’t like other people. 

She’s hurt not only by the talk behind her back, but in the present day when Shauna says she’s trying to become the perfect serial killer. Misty sees herself as clever, not as calculating. 

As a person who can be cool under fire, I understand to some extent what it’s like for people to think you don’t have feelings for being capable and not the sort of person to sit there and cry in front of everyone. Granted, I’ve never sat and watched a rat drown, but I see the frame here. 

But for them to have thought that she did something to Krystal, and Misty’s own seeming realization that her coolness is leading to everyone suspecting what she also suspects of herself: The she is somehow missing something. So she acts. She playacts the grieving, overcome best friend. 

And she DOES have a moment of intense loyalty, in that she’s not going to let them eat Crystal (and calls her Kristen). She still has a firm sense of boundaries in her mind, but it just applies to possibly the only person who has ever really loved Misty back. (Possibly also Misty’s parents--we haven’t seen anything of them but as I said in the opening, she has a very nice room, with a phone line, and if nothing else she’s very well cared for) 

All this being said--I do not like the hokey turn the show takes with Misty in the deprivation chamber. I know we’re supposed to be tapping into the ways that Misty understands emotion through hyperemotional and overstated art, because it’s easy for her to read and imitate. And that, in Misty’s justification of her own behavior to herself, grand strokes like this ARE how she would see it. But still, in the midst of what the show is trying to do, it feels awkward and not necessarily as revealing and meaningful as I think the writers might have hoped? This isn’t Bojack--we’re not used to an insanely goofy premise hiding something. 

But! I love that she took the blame for Adam’s murder. She DIDN’T kill Adam. She didn’t kill Crystal! The only person she killed (that I can remember) is someone no one knew about! But here, she’s happy to tell Walter that he’s right, and, I don’t know even if it has anything to do with her covering for Shauna, so much as it is having something for her and Walter to share. He can meet her where Crystal couldn’t, and this is the proof. He doesn’t mind what she’s capable of. 

[yellowjacketslesbian]

I did some research on the past credits of Yellowjackets S2 writers to try to figure out which episodes might have taivan plot lines:

(reposted from my twitter - credit for finding the writer’s list and episode titles goes to @sappy-sappho)

S2E3: Digestif is likely to heavily feature taivan because Ameni Rozsa also wrote S1E5 & S1E9 which introduced taivan as a couple & featured their coming out scene

S2E4: Old Wounds was already likely to be taivan's reunion based on the title but the writers' on the episode further confirm it. Julia Bicknell wrote E9 of Bly Manor (aka damie's episode) & Liz Phang wrote E3 of Hill House (Theo's episode)

S2E5: Two Truths & a Lie could feature Van heavily since Katherine Kearns wrote on S1 Hacks (the intersection of gay and comedy is basically Van) - I know this one is a bit of a stretch

S2E6 has Ameni Rozsa as a main writer leading me to believe this will be a pivotal episode for taivan since she wrote a lot of taivan's relationship in S1 and also talked about writing their relationship in The OutFronts panel

S2E7 may also feature a taivan storyline since Julia Bicknell is also a writer on this episode and again wrote THE damie episode of Bly Manor

[wide-eyedbrowns]

now why would misty sing this song

[quiltsinfilm]

Quilt spotted Yellowjackets S2E3. S2E6, & S2E7